REL T9X Subwoofer Review. No catchy title needed.

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Nemo Propaganda

Nemo Propaganda

Күн бұрын

REL T9X Subwoofer (NON affiliate link)
rel.net/shop/powered-subwoofe...
My REL T5X Review: • Dual REL T5x Subwoofer...
Preamp & Power Amplifiers
Kinki Studio EX-P7: www.kinki-studio.com/ex-p7
Kinki Studio EX-B7 monoblocks: www.kinki-studio.com/ex-b7
IotaVX SA3: www.iotaenterprises.co.uk/pro...
Speakers used during this review:
Focal Aria 906-www.focal.com/en/home-audio/h...
Source: Bluesound Node 2i
www.crutchfield.com/p_813NODE...
(all music is hi-res streamed from Tidal)
DAC: Denafrips Ares II
www.vinshineaudio.com/product...
Speaker & Power Cables: Maze Audio Ref4 with Kinki & Eden Series with IotaVX
www.mazeaudio.com/speaker-cabl...
RCA Cables: Analysis Plus Oval One
analysis.plus/product/oval-on...
Your results may vary based on your ears, room, and associated equipment:

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@kentonwatts504
@kentonwatts504 Жыл бұрын
By far the best review I have ever viewed on SUBS. Not overly tech talk! The way you pointed out the SQ vs the SPL is what sold me. I'm not the SPL guy. As a matter of fact I've been quite content without the addition of a sub. But I had an experience listening to an SQ sub and I now want one. The fact that REL can disappear is magic and it's that magic I am looking for. Many thanks! Even the CEO of REL was not as convincing. Just plain speak and straight to the highlights and comparisons, how refreshing!!!!!!!!!
@NemoPropaganda
@NemoPropaganda Жыл бұрын
Hey Kenton, thank you for the kind words. I always believed everyone loves bass as long as they get the type of bass that is best for their taste :)
@TheFilletingfish
@TheFilletingfish 2 жыл бұрын
Just picked up a pair of T9x too. Nemo your are the gold standard for subwoofer reviews. Thank you
@NemoPropaganda
@NemoPropaganda 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the kind words my man and HUGE congratulations on getting an awesome pair of subs!!!!
@marcusmcmurray77
@marcusmcmurray77 3 жыл бұрын
Dude, you make GREAT videos... you paint a beautiful picture of how speakers/subs sound with just words and bring out many good points. I truly love your reviews!
@NemoPropaganda
@NemoPropaganda 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you my man, I appreciate you saying that.
@johnsonrobinsonjr1272
@johnsonrobinsonjr1272 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic review! Thank you for taking the time to do the review on this sub!
@eyevuful
@eyevuful 3 жыл бұрын
I've been watching a lot of videos about Subwoofers and especially the Rel Ti-Tx series. Your emphasis of Sound Quality (SQ) versus Sound Pressure Level (SPL) in subwoofers is very useful and gets to the heart of the subwoofer debate. Your comparisons of the different subs in a similar range as the t9x is very useful. "Real music vs. fake music" is a great way to consider a listeners needs. I ordered a pair of T9x this morning. Thanks!
@NemoPropaganda
@NemoPropaganda 3 жыл бұрын
Wooo! Congratulations, that's a fine purchase :D. I might end up buying the review sample myself.
@PremKumar-vt1hq
@PremKumar-vt1hq 3 жыл бұрын
@@NemoPropaganda I have dual HT1003. Will replacing dual HT1003 with T/9X would be significant upgrade to SQ? My room size is 15 by 13.
@NemoPropaganda
@NemoPropaganda 3 жыл бұрын
@@PremKumar-vt1hq Yes, as long as your source material is good. If you're using bluetooth for music for example maybe they will sound similar but with a good source like CD or High-Res streaming the difference should be very noticeable.
@edmundgil6008
@edmundgil6008 2 жыл бұрын
@@NemoPropaganda What a great and constructive reply! You give lots of great hints and analogies. Not just a home theater vs music, but type of music, and type of music format. And as you mention, one’s typical listening volume. (Mine is on the medium/loud side)
@NemoPropaganda
@NemoPropaganda 2 жыл бұрын
@@edmundgil6008 thank you sir!
@od40k77
@od40k77 2 жыл бұрын
What a great video. Thank you for making this video and giving such an easy to understand review of the REL. I was thinking about getting the T7/X, but based on your comments and the dimensions of your test room, I think I'll go with the T9/X instead. Keep up the great work!
@danelevy827
@danelevy827 2 жыл бұрын
I learn so much from watching your videos. A job well done!
@clarencehoover6748
@clarencehoover6748 Жыл бұрын
This was a great discussion. Very, very helpful. Thanks for sharing, Brother Nemo!
@raphaelmeillat8527
@raphaelmeillat8527 3 жыл бұрын
Great review as always. You always manage to include lots of interesting tidbits in a short amount of time! Thanks for your videos
@NemoPropaganda
@NemoPropaganda 3 жыл бұрын
I actually left so much out on this video I might have to make a part 2 lol. Thank you though :).
@raphaelmeillat8527
@raphaelmeillat8527 3 жыл бұрын
@@NemoPropaganda I can see that. But your videos always flow nicely. Your take on people's ability to know what they're looking for (spl vs sq) could definitely be a video in itself. Took me forever to decide because I wanted both (home theater + stereo setup). We could all use extra tips!
@NemoPropaganda
@NemoPropaganda 3 жыл бұрын
@@raphaelmeillat8527 ah yes indeed, that's an important one, I did make a video about it, it's the REL vs. SVS. video, that was the whole point of that video. But everyday I learn more effieicent ways to explain these things so what was an entire video of it's own can now be a 2 minute clip in another video.
@roccobruno8027
@roccobruno8027 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks again for spending the time comparing the variety of SQ first subwoofers you've had the privilege of listening to.
@NemoPropaganda
@NemoPropaganda 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching Rocco :)
@lawchoongseng789
@lawchoongseng789 2 жыл бұрын
Thoroughly enjoyed your T7X review. And I continued with the T9X. Thanks for the comparison to SVS n KEF. Especially the difference between SQ and SPL buyers and subs. Great review. 🌈👍
@NemoPropaganda
@NemoPropaganda 2 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful :)
@gronthomson
@gronthomson Жыл бұрын
Thank you! Your channel is very refreshing an ON NONSENSE. I love the way you explain everything that many of us don't understand or don't know when it comes to purchasing audio equipment. I think I'm going with TWO REL T9X Subwoofers with my KLIPSCH Heresy IV speakers in my 25 x 25 x 12 room. Can't wait to hear them! Thanks NEMO!
@NemoPropaganda
@NemoPropaganda Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the kind words Ron, that sounds like a great room! We have a free discord if you want to post some pics. Link is in the description.
@josephcampbell4388
@josephcampbell4388 Жыл бұрын
5 Gold Stars!! I LOVE my T9i and now understand better why I do. Keep up the good work!
@NemoPropaganda
@NemoPropaganda Жыл бұрын
Happy to help :)
@michaelr1624
@michaelr1624 2 жыл бұрын
“It’s a limited production model, let’s not talk about it” Haha, I love this guy
@Whatisthis94
@Whatisthis94 Жыл бұрын
Thx. Just got this. At first, couldn’t tell it wasn’t even on. You’re totally right, it blends beautifully with speakers.
@NemoPropaganda
@NemoPropaganda Жыл бұрын
Great to hear!
@pmizz7959
@pmizz7959 3 жыл бұрын
Loved the review. I am a REL fanboy at this point. I just got a t7X to replace a t9i and I was flipper back and forth yesterday to compare. The 7x seems to hit just as hard as the 9i but does it faster and with more clarity. It really is amazing how much the changes to the T series improved the sound. I thought the i series was great until I heard this. The x series just blends away. I thought it was mostly marketing but your review of the t5x made me want to give it a shot and I am glad I did. So thank you for these. If you are on the fence or wondering if an upgrade is worth it… it is IMO.
@NemoPropaganda
@NemoPropaganda 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing Peter. It’s hard for me to suggest the upgrade from i to x as i range was still fantastic. I guess it depends if you have the cash or if its a stress.
@pmizz7959
@pmizz7959 3 жыл бұрын
@@NemoPropaganda I get where you’re coming from. I just needed another sub for a small home theatre so I moved the t9i to it so I could pick up the x for my music system 😁
@ABHORRANCE831
@ABHORRANCE831 2 жыл бұрын
@@pmizz7959 Do you find the T9i to dig deep enough for home theater?
@pmizz7959
@pmizz7959 2 жыл бұрын
@@ABHORRANCE831 It dug a tad bit deeper and had a bit more rumble. The latter probably due to the slower nature of the bigger and slower driver. I am running my 9i in my home theatre right now. It’s a smaller room and provides plenty for me. However, if I didn’t already have it I probably would have went with the REL HT12 for my home theatre. Depends on your application. If you are more music I’d go with the 7x and if your more movie but still want a musical sub the 9i is hard to argue with. Just don’t expect that HT slam you get with other HT subs.
@bryanpaulgilbert7308
@bryanpaulgilbert7308 2 жыл бұрын
great review! I def appreciate SQ-oriented subwoofers and I love the REL subs. I have also had great experiences with older M&K subs too.
@hangfire4819
@hangfire4819 7 ай бұрын
After watching this excellent video on the T9x and trusting in your subwoofer expertise, I decide to buy one. WOW! It adds an extra dimensionality to my system. Incredible! Thanks Nemo! 👍
@NemoPropaganda
@NemoPropaganda 7 ай бұрын
I'm happy to hear you're enjoying it, congrats!
@jamesfarnsworth6255
@jamesfarnsworth6255 2 жыл бұрын
Extremely well done!! Thank you so much
@peterhaslund
@peterhaslund 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the help, not really ready to shop yet but you sure help mate
@NemoPropaganda
@NemoPropaganda 2 жыл бұрын
that's what I'm here for :D feel free to join the discord if you want to chat more with like minded people: discord.gg/pNtZkqh8
@Bob-Fields
@Bob-Fields 3 жыл бұрын
I listen to all sorts of music: classical, new age, hip hop, pop, EDM and more. I ended up getting a pair of Rythmik E15SE subs in piano black. Overkill for my room? Absolutely but I am sooo satisfied with my purchase. The setup took less than 5 minutes and I've been in bliss ever since.
@NemoPropaganda
@NemoPropaganda 3 жыл бұрын
Love Rythmik subs! I own the F12SE. Had a pair originally but 1 actually sounded better in my room for music. If it was a mixed theater setup I would have kept the duals though.
@pmizz7959
@pmizz7959 3 жыл бұрын
Just watched this again. I just gotta say. I have no idea why you don’t have 10x the subscribers. Your actual content in just as good as the other hifi reviewers. Just cause you don’t have fancy B roll doesn’t mean the actual meat and potatoes isn’t on par or better than the others.
@NemoPropaganda
@NemoPropaganda 3 жыл бұрын
Because Zero Fidelity already exists and I'm just a a better looking version of him with less data points :D ahahaha, jk jk, he's a friend of mine but all jokes aside though. Who knows, I'm happy with the channels size and growth though :).
@pmizz7959
@pmizz7959 3 жыл бұрын
@@NemoPropaganda Sean seems to be a very down to earth dude. Love his content too, well just keep doing what you doing and I’m sure it will keep growing😉
@parkermackenzie9848
@parkermackenzie9848 2 жыл бұрын
I bought a T9x this week and connected it to my LS50W's .1/LFE using the arrow wireless system for a 2.1 mixed HT/Music living room setup. The T7x would have had plenty of extension for my medium-sized room but the T9x was available and will grow with me over time (renter here). It delivers for both with powerful, taught, articulate bass. It does so with ease and singleness of purpose that make it stand out to me.
@NemoPropaganda
@NemoPropaganda 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Parker I'm so happy to hear it was a win for you, that's awesome!!! I still miss the T9X and wish I still had them here :(.
@parkermackenzie9848
@parkermackenzie9848 2 жыл бұрын
@@NemoPropaganda They’re awesome; never would’ve discovered REL or that I’m an SQ customer without your channel so thank you. My local shop is also marketing JL Audio as an SQ brand which surprised me given your impression they’re the King of SPL but personally haven’t heard them. They have an upgrade program so I may audition in a few years.
@NemoPropaganda
@NemoPropaganda 2 жыл бұрын
@@parkermackenzie9848 compared to other subs I can see people thinking of JL as an SQ sub as it does have very good sound quality. I would say they are the highest sound quality SPL subs I've ever heard.
@videoproboston2450
@videoproboston2450 3 жыл бұрын
Great video! I love my Rythimik but your videos make me want to try a bunch of different subs to see what I’m.missing. I’m def an SQ person. I love that my Rythmik sounds like an extension of my Maggies and is impossible to locate. Does a great job for movies too.
@NemoPropaganda
@NemoPropaganda 3 жыл бұрын
If you have Rythmik subs you're in a good place, no need to try anything else imo unless there is something you don't like about them.
@videoproboston2450
@videoproboston2450 3 жыл бұрын
@@NemoPropaganda I love it. A big improvement over my old Klipsch sub I bought years ago.
@dagreatstoney.5869
@dagreatstoney.5869 2 жыл бұрын
Thank u, Rel are very good, happy Xmas
@NemoPropaganda
@NemoPropaganda 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Tony, Merry Christmas to you also :)
@elthamlad468
@elthamlad468 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this review, it has really been very helpful. I am currently looking at different sub-options for two-channel music listening only and have been a little confused over my options, especially when most subwoofer reviewers focus on how much bass subs have, which is not at all what I am interested in. Your explanation of the differences between SQ and SPL subs was very helpful. My question is if you have tested the next level of REL subs in the S series and how they compare overall to the T/ T9. Also what other subs do you recommend purely on an SQ level for matching with some premium speakers and amplification?
@NemoPropaganda
@NemoPropaganda Жыл бұрын
Hi Tony, it really depends on a lot of factors including personal taste. If you're looking for subs with the best integration & SQ Rythmik & REL are the ones. Some people like their sub to be a little more in your face with its presence and that's were JL Audio is a great option, some people want a good all around sub with a ton of features and SVS is fantastic at that while others might want killer extension in a small form factor and KEF is dominant at that. I have not heard the S sub from REL but a user in my free discord has owned both if you want to hop in there and ask :)
@jasonharley8230
@jasonharley8230 2 жыл бұрын
You're videos are amazing, they are my reference point for buying my first subwoofer, the only problem is I can't make my mind up !!! Then spend further hours going thru them again. I have a 15ft x 13ft room and have ordered a powernode with a pair of ls50 meta's. I only use the set up for music, is the KC62 the best match or are there cheaper alternatives ???????
@NemoPropaganda
@NemoPropaganda 2 жыл бұрын
I’d go for the T9i you mentioned or maybe a pair. KC62 is great but you’re paying for the size.
@robk5745
@robk5745 2 жыл бұрын
Somehow I missed this but man, your love for this shit really shows here. Appreciate you!
@NemoPropaganda
@NemoPropaganda 2 жыл бұрын
I am highly offended 😶ahaha jk jk, yeah man I love this shit, listening to music is like my meditation.
@MT-eb2dx
@MT-eb2dx 2 жыл бұрын
Got my T/5x today, love it, it's great for music and I have it set up that my LFE also gives out the bass of all channels, Marantz sr5015. The position I chose to put it in the middle of the speaker driver just to the side.
@NemoPropaganda
@NemoPropaganda 2 жыл бұрын
nice dude!
@MT-eb2dx
@MT-eb2dx 2 жыл бұрын
@@NemoPropaganda meanwhile I tried high level output. You where not wrong. This is fun.
@NemoPropaganda
@NemoPropaganda 2 жыл бұрын
@@MT-eb2dx good, I'm happy you're enjoying this. Don't become one of those audiophiles that gets so serious over everything lol, it's hobby and should always be fun :D
@madcrabber1113
@madcrabber1113 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the explanation between the 2 types. I thought that there was a difference. Seems that I need both and just connect one or the other depending on exactly what I am doing.
@NemoPropaganda
@NemoPropaganda 3 жыл бұрын
That's definitely an option. I know people with both :).
@madcrabber1113
@madcrabber1113 2 жыл бұрын
@@NemoPropaganda I bought both and use SVS for movies and Rel for music in different systems and rooms. Loving the results!
@joshdekubber3631
@joshdekubber3631 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Brother im definitely stuck between both camps plus you know I suffer from A.P. In your opinion do you think I could maybe achieve The Best of Both Worlds with Rel S Series? Enjoy your weekend out on the boat. I can't wait to come back to Arizona in about a month
@rockovinyl803
@rockovinyl803 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Nemo, Just was curious as to what company you purchased your acoustical panels from? Have a similar size room with NAD and Maggie's. Sounds amazing. Need to go to the next step with my room. Next step after room treatment is sub. Thinking either T5x Rel or Kef 62. Thanks for doing the vids...they're GREAT!
@NemoPropaganda
@NemoPropaganda 3 жыл бұрын
the ones you see in the video are just polyester panels I ordered from Amazon (search DEKIRU 20 Pack Acoustic Panels Sound Dampening Panels), the real acoustic panels you can't see are at the first reflection points and made by GIK (gobo panel).
@R2D2-V2D2
@R2D2-V2D2 Ай бұрын
Shame that I don’t even know your actual name, anyways I love your patience to reply all my novices questions 😊 really helpful!! Hope you continue with that as I can see you going to be very popular soon!!! Best, love watching your videos!!
@NemoPropaganda
@NemoPropaganda Ай бұрын
I'll respond to comments for as long as I can, if I had 100k subs and 2000 comments on each vid I probably would slow down though. Most larger channels either pay someone to answer comments or simply don't engage because it starts to take up a ton of time.
@R2D2-V2D2
@R2D2-V2D2 Ай бұрын
Absolutely, thank you
@jaydavid5343
@jaydavid5343 Ай бұрын
Hi Nemo. Thanks for the thoughtful review. I notice in one shot on this video you have a pair of Focals on stands with the T9x's. That's pretty much exactly what I'll have in a month or so! I ordered a pair of the new Focal Aria Evo X no 1's, (they're back-ordered as I really want the green finish...) Along with them will be a pair of REL T9x's, in white :) Considering the living room colors I think it will all look beautiful besides sounding great, with Primaluna CDP and Primaluna Integrated. Currently I'm listening to a pair of oooold original Meadowlark Kestrels, (small 2-way floor-standers), with a T7x in the corner of a very large living room (25 x 35 x 10). The REL makes a huge difference. Very good sounding combo. Can't believe I waited this long for a REL. Based on budget and room considerations I think the Focals and T9x's should be a nice combination. Again, thanks for your reviews. Much appreciated.
@NemoPropaganda
@NemoPropaganda Ай бұрын
that should be a great setup, Focal & REL go together extremely well!! Except the Kanta No1, that speaker is just a bastard and very difficult to setup with a subwoofer for some reason.
@ChaiBearProductions
@ChaiBearProductions 2 жыл бұрын
Have you tried both high and low level connections? Is there a noticeable difference at all? Some say high level sounds much better as it apparently uses different filters. I recently invested in the S400MKIIs and have a T9/x from my prior setup. I’m still researching different amplifiers at the moment so I haven’t tested the high level yet as the cable is still in the factory packaging. I’ve only used low level on the T9/x in my previous LS50W2 setup so I was curious as to your thoughts on this matter. Thanks for your detailed reviews! :)
@NemoPropaganda
@NemoPropaganda 2 жыл бұрын
High & low level use the same filter. There is a slight difference, maybe 10%. The biggest benefit of high level is it bypasses the sub output and most AVR have crappy filters on their sub output. If you have really good pre-outs the difference will be even smaller. On my preamp I don't think you can really hear a difference but if I use a cheaper $500 amp then high level is obviously better because the REL filter is better than the $500 amp sub output.
@itamarkas
@itamarkas 3 жыл бұрын
Great video....most under rated hifi channel in UTOOB....its should 60K not 5.69K! Keep rocking and hope to see you growing. Please try to review more expensive speakers (1000-3000$)
@NemoPropaganda
@NemoPropaganda 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you bro, maybe will do in the future :). For now the channel is a bit small to get such expensive review samples. But I’m sure I will in the future.
@taskforceicarus
@taskforceicarus 2 жыл бұрын
Dude, can’t say how much I love your videos. I had a 987 Cayman myself 😂 now I have a Macan Turbo with two JL 10W3s. I just bought a pair of Cornwall IVs… I think I’m going to have to save up for two of these subs since I have a really open vaulted room to fill. Thoughts? Thinking about the NAD M10 to power it all.
@NemoPropaganda
@NemoPropaganda 2 жыл бұрын
ah that was a good year cayman! So since you have popular speakers I would say just give rel a buzz or shoot them an email, tell them about your room size and intended use and they should be able to tell you exactly which size is best for you, they're really good at that. I've had all the T/X subs in my room and from the begining they told me the 7X would be best in my room. I scoffed thinking a pair of 8's wouldn't get the job done but they were right!
@KeithCopeland778
@KeithCopeland778 4 күн бұрын
Thank you for an excellent and detailed review!!!
@Matthieu666
@Matthieu666 Ай бұрын
awesome review! watched a lot of your reviews! we went to the shop this weekend and listned to both the T9x and HT1205MK2, i thought to go home with the T9x because of the reviews and looks but diddnt.. I missed the low notes in music with the T9x! it sounded kind of flat in our opinion, just trying to get the low notes but just diddnt .. and the HT picked them up just fine! maybe its slower and less detailed than the 9x but also this wasn't what i experienced. i liked the looks of the T9x better though... anyway im happy that i went to the store to compare the 2 and maybe i get an T9x one time to join the HT one day =) keep up the good work!
@NemoPropaganda
@NemoPropaganda Ай бұрын
Nice! The HT range is awesome, I think a lot of people would be happier with an HT. T/X & HT are both really great subs, just different. A lot of people enjoy the lighter tone of the T/X while others enjoy the stronger low end of the HT :)
@Matthieu666
@Matthieu666 Ай бұрын
@NemoPropaganda awesome that you took the time to give an response! Yes the HT gave me a better feeling .. listened with my daughter to Billy Eilish and diddnt hear the half song on the T9x same as with songs from the prodigy or Tool ao Korn songs... but the HT was nice full but not boomy at all... Happy with it.... Now get the right adjustments... think I set the crossovers of the speakers and sub to 80 first and run my audyssey again... Maybe it gets even better!
@BrianGarside
@BrianGarside 3 жыл бұрын
Would these pair well or blend with a couple large Bookshelf shelf speakers with 6.5 inch midbass woofers that go down to 55hz? Or is a pair of T7x a better match regardless of room size?
@NemoPropaganda
@NemoPropaganda 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, thats exactly the kind of speaker I used for this review (Focal Aria 906). I have not heard 7x though. REL themselves or a dealer should know which is best for each room since they have all the models on hand usually :)
@sebsese
@sebsese 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Nemo, i got my gain setting on 4-5 on my 7ti in my 13x16 ft room, higher than that it gets boomy, what am I doing wrong? Set up everything as per the instructions, in the corner diagonally behind the right speakers at the pressurization point.
@NemoPropaganda
@NemoPropaganda 3 жыл бұрын
Every room is different. You might have a room with strong bass (like me). Try putting it next to one of the speakers instead, set phase to 180, and blend frequency as needed.
@darrenk1810
@darrenk1810 2 жыл бұрын
I'm considering 2 x T/9x to complement my ported floorstanders in a 2-channel music system in a 19x22x8 room that is open to a hallway and open staircase to upstairs level. I can't find anywhere whether the LPF in the T/9x is 24dB per octave (to best match the roll off of my ported mains which are approx -6dB at 50Hz in room) or only 12dB per octave. Any ideas?
@NemoPropaganda
@NemoPropaganda 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Darren, the T9X blended so well with all my speakers I never felt the need to ask REL about the slope. I have found variable slope to be a helpful setup tool with other subwoofers that offer it but with the T9X it just blended with everything. Hope this helps.
@levb8579
@levb8579 2 жыл бұрын
Great reviews. I noticed that most of the sub reviews use monitor speakers. What if you have floor standing 3-way speakers? Will the smaller subs like the T7X do the job, or do you have to go with the T9x (if you can only afford having one sub)? I've read so many comments saying that two subs are always better than one, but other comments saying that the smaller subs can't integrate well with the bigger flood standing speakers that have deeper bass than the monitors. Your thoughts?
@NemoPropaganda
@NemoPropaganda 2 жыл бұрын
It depends on a lot of factors including the room. There is no one way answer to this question unfortunately.
@rog86
@rog86 3 жыл бұрын
Good vid. You come across as genuine....👍👍 I had a listen to the t9x the other day, good sub. Im thinking of getti g the 7x . I love in an aprtment with neighbours below. I noticed quite a lot of bass comi g from under the unit, from the passive radiator. Will a down firing radiator mean the neighboirs below will hear more from.me, or not? Should i put the sub on a stone platform if i get it? I have wooden floorvoards atm. Thank you!
@NemoPropaganda
@NemoPropaganda 3 жыл бұрын
Possibly, but bass loads the room regardless of driver arrangement. When I was in an apartment I did have a 1.25” granite slab underneath my subwoofer with a sheet of 1/8” rubber on the wood floor underneath the granite. It helped a lot but at the end of the day it mostly depends on how well the apartment is built :). I’ve found keeping the volume down after 8:30pm generally helped me avoid complaints.
@rog86
@rog86 3 жыл бұрын
@@NemoPropaganda great, thanks v much :))
@wezzman1
@wezzman1 2 жыл бұрын
I bloody love it when you call out hateres and fanboys....ppl need to live and lit live
@NemoPropaganda
@NemoPropaganda 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Wezz, yeah it's just the typical internet shit, people repeating shit other people have said without having any first hand experience.
@twoknife
@twoknife Жыл бұрын
I picked up some Focal On Wall 302 in my living room for a 5.1.4 and of course stereo for music. The fairly clean looks come at the cost of low-end extension, so they kinda need a 70-80 Hz crossover (rated for 50). What sub would you pair with that for about 17 square meters / 180 square ft? Right now I have T9X and 1205 on my list. Focal's own Sub 1000 F would fit within the budget as well. I am leaning a bit more towards 12 inches since it is home theater first. I think 15 inches might be a tad too much for the size of the room and crossover frequency. I definitely want to enjoy low volumes too without the neighbors complaining all the time.
@NemoPropaganda
@NemoPropaganda Жыл бұрын
HT1205 MK2 is a fantastic option if you want to make sure you have enough output & extension. The T9X is no slouch but you will get more room rumble out of the 1205 MK2.
@CapnJack100
@CapnJack100 Жыл бұрын
I would love for you to review the REL S510. Any chance that may happen? Awesome job as always!
@NemoPropaganda
@NemoPropaganda Жыл бұрын
I'm sure I'll review one at some point :)
@CapnJack100
@CapnJack100 Жыл бұрын
@@NemoPropaganda dying to know your thoughts. You break that shit down so well I do not think I have seen anyone compare the two other than REL.
@gary-kr7dm
@gary-kr7dm 2 жыл бұрын
REL are the masters of sub bass equipment. They specialise in sub bass.
@tracydaviscarr2146
@tracydaviscarr2146 Жыл бұрын
Bought this sub to go with an Ambeo soundbar on the recommendation of where I bought the LG OLED 77 and Ambeo soundbar. I said it would be for mostly movie and reg tv . Only music would be from streaming or what the music channels are on local Xfinity cable. Had them out a few times and tried different settings etc .Not sure what was wrong , but just not satisfied with the sub sound performance ! I returned it, so now on the fence of going with the Rel HT-1205 or the SVS SB-2000 ?
@NemoPropaganda
@NemoPropaganda Жыл бұрын
what aspects specifically dissapointed you? your room may have some bass issues that may require dual subs. The T9X while not the most dominant subwoofer is still of a respectable size being a 10" with 300w. If that was a let down you might need to jump up to something much stronger like a JL D110, KEF KF92 or Rythmik FVX12 or something like a pair of HT1205 or SB1000/2000 Pro.
@myhomeaudio8751
@myhomeaudio8751 3 жыл бұрын
nice as always bro.
@NemoPropaganda
@NemoPropaganda 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you bro!
@kevinthorpe5945
@kevinthorpe5945 2 жыл бұрын
Matched with 5-6in driver bookshelf speakers, is the T7x ever better with speed than the 9x? Room size 12x22x8.5. Ik you said the 9x is better at everything, but do you think the larger driver on the 9x can sound not quite matched as well with smaller speakers? Thanks!
@NemoPropaganda
@NemoPropaganda 2 жыл бұрын
I think you can go either way. I would not worry about the 9x blending with smaller speakers. While the 7x should blend better with something that has a 4" driver both subs blend extremely well so I'd say just buy the one you want :)
@hclandscapes
@hclandscapes 3 жыл бұрын
Have you listened to any BK subwoofers? In the uk they are pretty cheap and offer a similar sound to REL, i think they were the same company years ago or used to share components?
@NemoPropaganda
@NemoPropaganda 3 жыл бұрын
I have not, they certainly do look like a "cousin" for lack of a better word.
@kashefjameel
@kashefjameel 2 жыл бұрын
Hi there, Need an expert advise. living room is 17x22 but my listening position is half of it and felt my subwoofer rel ht1205 is not performing that well specially on low volume music. But does pretty well on movies. My setup is marantz sr6014, def tech bp9060 , center as CS9040 and Rel Ht/1205. Rel does not wake up at lower volumes (example: at mid 30's or 40's) but performs well at higher volumes 60's and 70's. Looking for a sub which is punchier on lower volumes specially while listening to KZfaq music. I am ok to go for a dual sub setup. So, replacing rel with an svs pb series sub solve my problem? Thinking of pb4000 or sb16 ultra. Your advise is greatly appreciated. Thank you!
@NemoPropaganda
@NemoPropaganda 2 жыл бұрын
That's a really tough question to answer, I've not heard the Pb4000 and I've only heard the SB16 at reference volumes. My specialty is really 2ch music. On a room that size for dual duty I would do something like a pair of Rythmik FVX12.
@kashefjameel
@kashefjameel 2 жыл бұрын
@@NemoPropaganda thank you for your reply and suggestion !
@eafc2112
@eafc2112 2 жыл бұрын
Ok, I have a set up question. Maybe I should call/email REL. I'm looking at a pair of T7X's but I need to run them XLR and not HL, I need to crossover my Magnepan 3.7i's and the only way is with using something like my Emotiva XSP-1's bass management. Am I missing anything or is this correct. I'm between a pair or the REL's or SVS SB3000
@NemoPropaganda
@NemoPropaganda 2 жыл бұрын
I think you should watch this video first: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qKuqY5aJ0MnXnH0.html it should help you decide.
@nespressoman
@nespressoman Жыл бұрын
Fantastic channel, thank you.
@tg6373
@tg6373 Ай бұрын
Cayman is a great car -- got one as a loaner during covid and man it was fun!
@chestera8825
@chestera8825 2 жыл бұрын
Thoughts on a t9x vs f12 vs sb3000 for 80% music 20% movies/tv? Room is 13x18. Think I prefer a more subtle sound so prob not svs like you said in the video
@NemoPropaganda
@NemoPropaganda 2 жыл бұрын
As far as REL or SVS I made a video to answer that question you can find it here: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qKuqY5aJ0MnXnH0.html. As far as T9X vs F12 I discussed that in this video that you are commenting on when I get the comparisons portion. Both have excellent SQ, the larger Rythmik will play louder and extend lower, the smaller REL will look better in the room, have a higher WAF, and still play plenty loud & low, just not as loud & low as the larger 12".
@danelevy827
@danelevy827 2 жыл бұрын
I am looking for a pair of wireless subwoofers for a medium size room for both music and theatre. I am more on the spl size. What would you recommend?
@NemoPropaganda
@NemoPropaganda 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Dane, have you looked at the SVS SB3000? That should put a huge smile on your face :)
@jerryjohnson4625
@jerryjohnson4625 3 ай бұрын
You do a great job , lots of information + how you see it . Still listening to my Emotiva RS 11 with the Wharfedale "Linton's " thru a Primaluna Prologue integrated , 200 sf living room, vaulted ceiling. Had two T5i's ,nice but ended up with the RS 11.$1299. like that 500 watts , even though I'm sure I have never kicked it in ,laff . Thinking about this t9x now. Maybe I'm missing more than I know😲 !
@NemoPropaganda
@NemoPropaganda 3 ай бұрын
The RS11 is a different beast, it's more about output and force while the T9X is more about fidelity and nuance detail.
@jerryjohnson4625
@jerryjohnson4625 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for replying. I just took the t9x plunge. Found an open box deal. Really anxious to get it and plug it in. B.t.w. , you do a very good job with your reviews. Very comfortable and informative & never boring. Having all those nice subs there ,,,I'm jealous !!
@NemoPropaganda
@NemoPropaganda 3 ай бұрын
@@jerryjohnson4625 thank you for the kind words, don't be jealous though, my rooms a mess lol
@bradmartin9532
@bradmartin9532 3 жыл бұрын
What do you think of the REL tZero subwoofer for a room about the size of yours? I’m trying to decide if the TZero is enough for me. Thanks!
@NemoPropaganda
@NemoPropaganda 3 жыл бұрын
I’m gonna say no. The TZero can work for a micro system but is better suited to multi channel HT reinforcement. Like connected to a pair of satellite speakers in the rear to give a bigger sense of realism.
@homerjones3291
@homerjones3291 3 жыл бұрын
I like the way you can set Rels and then leave them alone and you pretty much ignore them. I always was aware of my SVS SB-2000s.
@NemoPropaganda
@NemoPropaganda 3 жыл бұрын
agree, it's just a different kind of presentation. Some people like noticing their sub while others don't.
@bobb.9917
@bobb.9917 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Nemo…LOVE your reviews! I am running Dynaudio Contour 20s in a 12'x14’ room with 8’ ceilings. Stereo music. I do not listen real loud. Do you think a pair of Rel T/5x Subs will do it for me???
@NemoPropaganda
@NemoPropaganda 3 жыл бұрын
With a setup like that I think you'd be happy with any of the T/X range, it just comes down to room aesthetics, how much bass you want, and what you want to spend. Our rooms are similar in size, I found the T5X to offer plenty but the 9x pair is also worth every penny with it's larger sense of scale, more fidelity, an even stronger bottom end, etc... Personally I'm still torn between which one to pick for my own system :D It's like Porsche Cayman or Porsche Cayman GTS, you're still getting a Porsche :).
@bobb.9917
@bobb.9917 3 жыл бұрын
@@NemoPropaganda COOL! I do live in an apt., and there's lots of concrete, so I am thinking that the T/5x subs will have me grinning and keep my neighbor from frowning. 👍🏻 Thanks for all your thorough reviews that have brought me to this conclusion.
@NemoPropaganda
@NemoPropaganda 3 жыл бұрын
@@bobb.9917 Awesome! That's always my goal, help people stop obsessing and just make a decision :)
@bobb.9917
@bobb.9917 3 жыл бұрын
@@NemoPropaganda well…there are a LOT of great products out there and it is a little overwhelming. First thing is to assess my situation, my system, my wants/priorities. Then…TAKE MY TIME…Don't rush in. My conclusion is that I REALLY want two KEF K62s…but $3K is more than twice the price of two T/5x subs. …These will be just fine. 🙂 Good reviewers like you really are vital in sorting thru the maze!!!!
@nelz_2592
@nelz_2592 3 жыл бұрын
Nice review nemo I'm still stuck on my next subwoofer purchase
@raphaelmeillat8527
@raphaelmeillat8527 3 жыл бұрын
I was stuck for quite some time as well. Finally managed to bite the bullet after months of hesitation! It feels good!
@nelz_2592
@nelz_2592 3 жыл бұрын
@@raphaelmeillat8527 nice I was looking at a 1205 but if I can hold myself and these t9x are just as good for movies I might just jump on this hows your experience so far?
@NemoPropaganda
@NemoPropaganda 3 жыл бұрын
the 1205 is good at it's price but the 9x is built a lot better and will offer up a lot more fidelity, bass detail, textures, etc... When you place them side by side it becomes very clear why the price is so different. How much bass is enough, that's the magic question. Some guys are happy with 1 8" sub, some guys have 4 18" subs and still want more lol.
@nelz_2592
@nelz_2592 3 жыл бұрын
@@NemoPropaganda yea I hear what your saying man wish I could hear these somewere
@amimartian
@amimartian Жыл бұрын
Hey mate, did you listen to a S/510? Would you go with that instead of a T9/X for better audiophile/home cinema balance?
@NemoPropaganda
@NemoPropaganda Жыл бұрын
no not yet :(
@y.l.5223
@y.l.5223 6 ай бұрын
I like the way you describe the difference between SQ and SPL subs. You do it so well I prefer your channel over others. I'm for sure SQ guy. I've ordered a B&M 805 D4 powered by MICHI 5 and am looking for a matching sub. REL recommends S/510, but after watching your videos I leaning towards one or two T/5x. I live in a condo, and my listening position would be about 10' from the speakers (from the couch to TV). The living room, combined with the dining room, is about 12.5x27' with vaulted ceilings. I'm not a fan of punchy bass, my main purpose is for classical music. What is your opinion, should I step up for bigger T/7x or T/9x?
@NemoPropaganda
@NemoPropaganda 6 ай бұрын
woo, lucky for you brother I have the s510 and red t9x in for review right now so my memory is fresh!! Right now i'm using the Platimon with those subs which is in a similar tier as your 805 D4 albeit a little more affordable. So the reality is this, you have a shared wall, bass can be an issue with any sub if you crank the volume too much. With that said I do not suggest restricting yourself to something small out of worry for the neighbor, instead you must be smart with your listening habits, keep the volume down past 9pm or even 8pm if you can for example. Larger subs do more than simply play louder, they have a larger sense of scale & sound more effortless which will be important with your highend speakers. I love t5x but bare minimum I would suggest is to start with 1 t9x and add a second one later if you want to. As amazing as t9x is the s510 really is a step up in many ways so I do agree with REL's suggestion. However the t9x will for sure get the job done nicely, there is a gentleman in my discord that has a similar system to you and his room is even larger, we were both worried the single t9x would not be enough but his home decor demanded only a single sub and he was very happy with the results. Hope that helps.
@whitecrowuk575
@whitecrowuk575 2 жыл бұрын
Doubt you will read comment under old video but will give a shot. I have kf92 which is great for movies and music alike. Recently I was thinking to add either another kf92, for better dispersion as I use fraction of Kf92 power, or try to add REL specially for music listening via my Arcam AVR. Now big question is what would be better for music in medium size room with ls50 metas - two kf92s (bonus in movies), two t7x high pass and lfe connected, or 1x t9x. With high pass because I use mono blocks single Rel afaik is a no go so last option would be connected via lfe. All would be room corrected with Dirac with base management. For stereo music listening lfe would be disabled in second option (t7x). Btw for those speakers and room size Rel recommends t7x
@NemoPropaganda
@NemoPropaganda 2 жыл бұрын
both subs are great, just different. REL recommends running speakers full range and not using high pass. Anyway the T7X cannot come close to the extension of the KF92 but will offer up more bass fidelity and nuance detail. However if you use both KF92 and T7X at the same time then that nuance detail will be lost. Since REL is very popular my advice is to demo them locally first as they are very different from what you currently have. You may love it, but you also may hate it.
@Reluctantaudiophile
@Reluctantaudiophile 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Nemo, I’d love to see a review of the Paradigm Seismic 110.
@NemoPropaganda
@NemoPropaganda 3 жыл бұрын
It is a unique design and I am curious about it but tiny cabinets with huge power and big excursion generally don't have the most resolving bass but tend to be big winners for compact home theater. I would very happily accept a review sample from them but would be unlikely to spend my own money to acquire one.
@markusganzherrlich
@markusganzherrlich 2 жыл бұрын
Does this kind of downfiring passive radiator sub benefit from an isolation platform?
@NemoPropaganda
@NemoPropaganda 2 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure, you can experiment with it but remember the passive is like a port, it really only gets going at certain lower frequencies.
@ticketman617
@ticketman617 Жыл бұрын
Question: thinking of doing REL T9X for high level & Rhytmic 15 or 18 for LFE. What’s your thoughts?
@NemoPropaganda
@NemoPropaganda Жыл бұрын
Rythmik & REL play very well together.
@hclandscapes
@hclandscapes Жыл бұрын
In the uk this sub is the same price as theSVS sb3000, Would this Rel tx9 compete with bass output when compared to the sb3000?
@NemoPropaganda
@NemoPropaganda Жыл бұрын
output? No! A 3" difference when discussing the diameter of a circle will account for a rather large amount of surface area and in this case that means the 13" driver of the SB3000 has about 69% more cone area than the T9X. That's a substantial difference in size, the SB3000 will have a lot more output than the 10" REL T9X. Very rarely does a 10" have similar output to a 13" though they do exist if you're willing to pay for it like the JL Audio E110.
@themoistgreenorganic
@themoistgreenorganic 2 жыл бұрын
What do you guys think about putting your subs on isolation feet? Would this tighten up the bass to make it noticeable? The isoacoustic feet are $60 a pair and I have two subs. That’s $240, not a cheap upgrade, but would be worth it if it has as big of an effect as speaker isolators.
@NemoPropaganda
@NemoPropaganda 2 жыл бұрын
depends on the room/foundation. Some people may notice a difference while others may not. Personally I consider it a "tweak" and I don't care about audio tweaks unless there is an aesthetic benefit.
@themoistgreenorganic
@themoistgreenorganic 2 жыл бұрын
@@NemoPropaganda I’m in a basement room and they sit on thin carpeting with minimal padding. I may go with subwoofer pads as opposed to isolation feet for less than half the price. Tight bass can be hard to come by, but sometimes these tweaks can make all the difference.
@NemoPropaganda
@NemoPropaganda 2 жыл бұрын
@@themoistgreenorganic try using a butcher block first, if you already have one that's a free way to test the theory. If you floor is concrete I don' think it will change anything but it's a floating foundation then who knows. This is a massively home specific tweak.
@ChrisDFranco
@ChrisDFranco 3 жыл бұрын
No catchy title needed! 🔥🔥🔥
@sleepyf1
@sleepyf1 2 жыл бұрын
Please review the Rel S/510. I know its expensive, but as you said in another video, buy once buy right.
@NemoPropaganda
@NemoPropaganda 2 жыл бұрын
I will review it one day, I am very busy with so many other subwoofers right now though.
@IrenESorius
@IrenESorius 3 жыл бұрын
⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐/⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ review. Cheers and have a excellent weekend Nemo,, 🍻😎👍‍‍!!
@MrPJAT
@MrPJAT 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, I would like to get your opinion on the Rel T7x, between the T5x and T9x, which also has a bass front unit. I want to thank you for the content you publish. It has already helped me decide on the Focal Aria 906 for my system. I've been following the channel since I discovered it, two weeks ago, in a search I did about the Aria 906 and the Tannoy XT6. I was curious and after listening I already decided. Thanks.
@NemoPropaganda
@NemoPropaganda 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Paulo, I'm happy you're enjoying the channel. I have not heard the T7X but I should have a review sample coming in for them soon so I will let you know. My guess is it will be an excellent match for the Aria since the 5x and 9x both sounded fantastic for the Aria :). Based on my conversation with REL the 7X is supposed to sound almost the same as the 9X but the 9X will be able to play much louder.
@MrPJAT
@MrPJAT 2 жыл бұрын
​@@NemoPropaganda thank you very much for your attention in replying. I'll be paying attention to the T7x review because it's really what Rel considers for the volume of my room, as I could understand from their website. Thanks.
@NemoPropaganda
@NemoPropaganda 2 жыл бұрын
@@MrPJAT it's also the size they recommend for my room which is 10x12ft with 9ft ceilings. Hopefully will have a review out in like 2-3 weeks.
@rayking507
@rayking507 3 жыл бұрын
Hi, have you tested or going to test any os the Rel S series or Carbon Special or Reference range and how do they sound and compare. Thank you.
@NemoPropaganda
@NemoPropaganda 3 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure, since I use mono blocks I need 2 subs if using the high-level input. I think the 9x pair is as big as I can run in this room so If I do anything bigger like S812 and up I'd need to use 1 via the more traditional line level input. My preamps line level is extremely good and very close to the SQ of the high level but since I don't have the ability to demo a single S812 or Carbon Special with high level I'm not sure how REL would feel about that. I will ask them their thoughts next time we chat :). For what it's worth personally I would love to check out the carbon special but there is such a thing as too big for the room. At least for music systems.
@ericyum6729
@ericyum6729 3 жыл бұрын
Would love to see you reviewing a Rel S series! I use mono block too. Quite an headache for me as I don’t have much space & my speaker goes down to 30hz - less than 10db. So I doubt if a T series would fit me. Maybe I need to get the Rythmik
@NemoPropaganda
@NemoPropaganda 3 жыл бұрын
@@ericyum6729 I might get an S510 for review but I'm not sure. If you only fit 1 sub the Rythmik F12SE is an excellent choice and extremely hard to beat. When it comes to the best SQ subs Rythmik & REL are at the top of my list. REL is more dynamic while Rythmik has more extension. Either way you can't go wrong.
@mattolsziewski7164
@mattolsziewski7164 3 жыл бұрын
I apologize if you have already done so and I have missed it. But it’d be cool to see a review of the HSU-ULS-15 MK2 if you could get your hands on it.
@NemoPropaganda
@NemoPropaganda 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Matt, despite being only 20 minutes down the road Hsu Research will not respond to any of my emails so at this point I have zero interest in reviewing their products.
@mattolsziewski7164
@mattolsziewski7164 3 жыл бұрын
@@NemoPropaganda wow I didn’t realize how close they were to you. I can’t blame you for that one.
@NemoPropaganda
@NemoPropaganda 3 жыл бұрын
@@mattolsziewski7164 yeah, they wouldn't even have to ship anything lol, oh well.
@pvshetty1
@pvshetty1 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Nemo, Just wanted to ask you, the REL HT1205 sub what i have... I get a mild electric shock when powered on... I mean its only on the metal on the back side... is it something normal? I have spoken to the dealer and he says it's normal.... What do u think?
@NemoPropaganda
@NemoPropaganda 3 жыл бұрын
Like when you flip the switch it shocks you? No that is not normal my bro, email REL, if you're in your warranty period I'm sure they will get you taken care of. I was just using my 1205 yesterday for an a/b comparison so I did lots of switching on and off, I didn't experience anything like that. The only thing I can imagine that would be normal is if you're in a climate where there is a lot of static and static shock may be normal for that region then perhaps.
@pvshetty1
@pvshetty1 3 жыл бұрын
@@NemoPropaganda - Yes when i flip the switches it shocks me... Let me talk to REL team about this.. Thanks bro 👍
@erics.4113
@erics.4113 3 жыл бұрын
Does it feel good? I like a little zap every now and then lol. In all seriousness, have you plugged a tester into the outlet it's plugged into? You can get a cheap tester for around $10 at home store. Maybe a ground fault with the wiring?
@pvshetty1
@pvshetty1 3 жыл бұрын
@@erics.4113 - Yes i have a tester and it glows when i touch the metal switch. So its nothing to do with my house...i have carried around in 3 different houses and confirmed that its something not normal in my Subwoofer. 😭
@jerryjohnson4625
@jerryjohnson4625 3 ай бұрын
Hey Nemo , not sure who to ask about my t9x issue. It's already been returned, but I really like the way it sounds. My sub has to set very close to my wooden HiFi cabinet, at the left side but forward. The sub started moving in and out very fast, I turned the volume on the amplifier down. The fluttering stopped. Every time I would try to turn it up past 3 maybe it would start moving out of control while playing records. It did not do that when I ran it through my DVD player and watch d a concert. It sounded great. Went back to the record and it started fluttering again. I had the Emotiva se12 , passive radiator , same location, same turntable, same everything. It never did that. So I don't know why is. Sets on a hardwood floor over a basement. But I don't have much turntable jumping, so the floor is pretty taunt for a wooden floor. Just wondering if there could be anything wrong with that r e l causing it to do that. Any idea? Appreciate you and all the work that goes into infofun videos.
@NemoPropaganda
@NemoPropaganda 3 ай бұрын
I couldn't say brother, I don't use phono myself and I've never had any issue like that.
@totalplonker824
@totalplonker824 3 жыл бұрын
I swear you can read my mind because you describe my Rel subwoofers perfectly! "If one wants a high performance subwoofer sound then one should go to someone who only deals with a high performance sound!" BTW Rel subwoofers are not English... they are Welsh 🧐Hence the red dragon
@ajzepp8976
@ajzepp8976 3 жыл бұрын
Great review Brother Nemo! If one cannot use the high level inputs, and that is taken out of the equation, does that close the gap between the REL and the Rhythmik in terms of SQ for music?
@NemoPropaganda
@NemoPropaganda 3 жыл бұрын
Hi AJ, REL and Rythmik don't have any gap in terms of SQ to begin with :) Sure I can say something like the T9X is more dynamic and it's texture is a little more detailed while the F12SE extends lower and is more full with it's texture but at this point we are splitting hairs of the split hairs. high level vs low level on my system was a small difference honestly. When I tried it on the cheaper iotaVX amp then high level seemed to show more of an improvement.
@ajzepp8976
@ajzepp8976 3 жыл бұрын
@@NemoPropaganda Thanks man, that is very useful feedback, as always. I have had an order in for the 2-10 Tekton sub,but I placed that back in April and they still haven't gotten the plate amps in yet. So Im thinking about just canceling and ordering a Rhythmik or REL. So the fact that you've heard so many different subs really is valuable info for me. Appreciate you!
@NemoPropaganda
@NemoPropaganda 3 жыл бұрын
@@ajzepp8976 that's funny because I just called tekton asking for a 2-10 sample :). They are indeed out of plate amps. Funny thing is RSL uses the same plate amps so I'm guessing they're just buying all of them.
@ajzepp8976
@ajzepp8976 3 жыл бұрын
@@NemoPropaganda It's a really interesting little sub...if you talk to the again, tell them I said to fill your sample order before mine so you can make a video and tell me if its any good! lol
@williammoses6460
@williammoses6460 2 жыл бұрын
@@ajzepp8976 my set up is the two-hole Enzo XL from Tekton. In my room a single 7ti seems to work just fine. I use cello music to calibrate the settings. Cello and piano duets -- get that right and the job is done. And…..I got the AP real bad. Lusting after new upgrade. Seems like I’ve spent a fortune on slow horses, fast women and audio gear. Probably would’ve just wasted it on clothes for the kids, otherwise.
@DameJara
@DameJara 2 жыл бұрын
If you had to choose between the t9x or rythmik f12se, which would you choose?? These would be paired with a set of klipsch forte iii and a rotel ra1572mkii int amp. Thanks :) your reviews are super informative for an aspiring audiofile like myself!
@NemoPropaganda
@NemoPropaganda 2 жыл бұрын
See now that is what I call a tough question!! I personally own a pair of T7X, a single FVX12 and the F12SE so my solution was to have both brands. The reality here is you're asking mclaren or lambo, both are so good. If you listen louder or watch movies and don't ever plan to upgrade to dual subs then I'd inch towards the larger Rythmik F12 but if it's a primary music system either sub will give you more than enough output unless the room is incredibly challenging and then you will need dual subs no matter what. Is there perhaps an aesthetic preference on one over the other? That's how I decide when I'm stuck. I'm sorry I can't give you a clear answer, I really do love both brands equally. BTW we have a free discord if you want to join, link is in the newer videos :).
@NemoPropaganda
@NemoPropaganda 2 жыл бұрын
@@DameJara why not go for the E15hp2?
@DameJara
@DameJara 2 жыл бұрын
@@NemoPropaganda I ended up snagging an F12 for now to keep the wife sane lol! Eventually when we move out of our apartment I’ll try for the e15hp2! I saw your review!! Thanks for the help! Thoroughly enjoying my 2.1 setup!
@NemoPropaganda
@NemoPropaganda 2 жыл бұрын
@@DameJara Nice dude, enjoy!!!
@willbrink
@willbrink 9 ай бұрын
My beloved Velodyne HGS 12 sub finally died for the last time, which was top of the line for it's day (SQ + SPL but big $), and I'm ordering a T9X now. I'm a two channel SQ listener all the way. Don't give a darn about thump thump SPL theater subs. Back in the day, Velodyne was one of only a few brands that was SQ and SPL "musical" sub. Thanx for the review.
@NemoPropaganda
@NemoPropaganda 9 ай бұрын
you're in for a pretty serious treat, Velodyne was nowhere near as good as we all give them credit for, 20 years ago maybe, not today though. Everyone that upgrades from a Velodyn to a REL or Rythmik is usually blown away by the difference. Velodyne was great at making big bass in a compact enclosure that didn't dominate the presentation but the note to note distinction was god awful, no doubt caused by the dsp's available back then.
@willbrink
@willbrink 7 ай бұрын
I found the T9/x lacking in most uses and returned it. In my room and my system, it didn't do it for me. On some tracks it sounded good, some others where I knew there was some base notes, it just didn't deliver. It is a small box and only does 27HZ, and fit/finish/looks are great, but there's far better subs for that $ in my view. It may still be a good choice for those with limited space, small rooms, etc, was not the right fit for me.
@yannick930
@yannick930 2 жыл бұрын
Hello friend ! I wanted to ask you what you said about high level connection comes from you trying each of your subs or just based on what Rel said. I have less experience with different sub but the few i've tried sounded way better with high level : Focal, yamaha, Rel,... The only times it competes with high level is when you have separates. Preamplifier and power amps. On an integrated with line out it always sound better to go high level. The timing was better for me.
@NemoPropaganda
@NemoPropaganda 2 жыл бұрын
It's based on my own experience and understanding of the circuit. All high level inputs do is convert the signal to low level and send it through the exact same circuitry as the RCA inputs. Most subwoofers high-level connection is a $6 part and is designed for legacy connections. If it sounds better like that for you even on non-REL subwoofers it may be possible that your preamps RCA or sub output is either not that good or adding some coloration. This is common with cheap AVR's where the sub output is not a direct signal and instead ads some effects of it's own that usually mess with the sound. In a situation like that high level will be a more pure signal. Since my channel is only for 2ch stereo 99% of what I talk about is with respect to 2ch stereo that doesn't use any sound processing. I hope this helps answers your questions but at the end of the day we all do what sounds best so it's okay if we disagree as long as we're both enjoying great sound :).
@yannick930
@yannick930 2 жыл бұрын
@@NemoPropaganda thanks for the answer. Make sense. I had the same impression. Sadly it's more than cheap avr. A lot of Sub 2k integrated have in general bad RCA output. That's why using a proper preamp is the winning combo. The fault isn't in the sub but upstream. With more context i can see that we have the same experience. Sorry I don't know what legacy connection is ? But i know the conversion mechanism in subs and you're right.
@NemoPropaganda
@NemoPropaganda 2 жыл бұрын
@@yannick930 For the way I'm using the word Legacy it just means old fashion. So legacy connection is like old style connections.
@yannick930
@yannick930 2 жыл бұрын
@@NemoPropaganda Ah ok, I understand.
@RonRivet
@RonRivet Жыл бұрын
Rel recommended that I buy an s510 to best match my Totem Tribe tower speakers but I just couldn't spend the 3k plus for the s510 so opted for a t9x. I hope I don't regret not getting the one Rel recommended. I'm thinking the t9x will do the job and do it well. Thanks for the review.
@NemoPropaganda
@NemoPropaganda Жыл бұрын
Hi Ron, I know many people who were receommended S510 but couldn't handle the price tag so they went for the T9X, many of them could afford it but theres something about a sub over $2k that gives a lot of us cold feet. Anyhow, I digress, all of them were pretty darn happy with the results. Now if you're expecting to pressurize a medium or larger room with theater levels of bass a single T9X won't do that but, if you're looking to enhance your music or add some fullness to your movies while retaining the highest level of bass fidelity then I'd say you got the perfect sub.
@giaccos
@giaccos 2 жыл бұрын
First of all Thank you Thank you for all your reviews! Amazing...... I am in Italy where the SVS SB 2000 pro costs 1100 euro and the REL T9X costs 1350. Room is medium/large size and can not decide between them .... Would like more REL for the music usage but the app for the setting on the SVS is bloody useful I guess.... What would you do ? Help! Help!! Thank youuuuuuu
@NemoPropaganda
@NemoPropaganda 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Gianluca, I made a video for that: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qKuqY5aJ0MnXnH0.html
@giaccos
@giaccos 2 жыл бұрын
@@NemoPropaganda thank you sooooo much
@georgieo.5190
@georgieo.5190 2 жыл бұрын
Great review! I have a question if you’d take the time out for one: Rel states an 8 millisecond cross over and say that’s incredibly fast. (I know little to none about these things), but they also state that their reference line does it in 4ms. It’s a huge price change from one to the other , double , my question is , is it worth to save up for the reference line over the t9x to get those 4ms or not ? Is that something I’d notice and is it worth it in your opinion?
@NemoPropaganda
@NemoPropaganda 2 жыл бұрын
I have not heard anything beyond the T9X so I don’t want to guess. My advice is to demo them and decide from hearing them.
@georgieo.5190
@georgieo.5190 2 жыл бұрын
@@NemoPropaganda thanks for the quick response, really appreciate it! .,I don’t have the heart to make them send me speakers back and forth like that (despite the price), if they are coming to my house they aren’t leaving aside from factory defects or something. Great advice tho, thank you :)
@NemoPropaganda
@NemoPropaganda 2 жыл бұрын
@@georgieo.5190 I meant demo them at a store or local dealer :)
@georgieo.5190
@georgieo.5190 2 жыл бұрын
@@NemoPropaganda oooohhhh, yeah that makes sense :)
@PhillipSauerbeck
@PhillipSauerbeck 2 жыл бұрын
I’m thinking of getting REL T9x to pair with my KEF LS50 wireless ii. My room is 5000 cu/ft and my focus is 90% music. I’m wanting a sub to integrate seamlessly and beautifully. Do you think the t9x might be a good fit for my scenario? Perhaps jump to REL S series if I can find a used one? Your channel is dope, thank you!
@NemoPropaganda
@NemoPropaganda 2 жыл бұрын
Hey thank you dude! yeah the T9X is awesome, that's a big room but if the LS50 Wireless is playing loud enough in that room a single T9X will be great also and do exactly what you want. I have not heard the S range so I can't comment but I'm sure they are great!
@PhillipSauerbeck
@PhillipSauerbeck 2 жыл бұрын
@@NemoPropaganda Awesome, thank you! I'm about to pull the trigger on the T9X as they are on sale this month @ $1250, and I just auditioned them at my local dealer and thought they were great. So..... one last rec question, if you don't mind: is there a Rythmik sub that you might recommend instead? F12? G22? On paper the Rythmik's have more extension and headroom, but does that happen to shake out as being very different, or better, in listening experience? Thanks again
@NemoPropaganda
@NemoPropaganda 2 жыл бұрын
@@PhillipSauerbeck it depends on if you want a bigger sub or not. REL & Rythmik are like ferrari & lamborghini, you're getting the best SQ sub no matter which one you grab, but the G22 and T9X are wildly different in size. Rythmik gives you more extension and output for the dollar spent while REL gives you little bit more nuance detail and a much higher WAF. At the end of the day you'll love the sound of either one, it's all the other things you have to decide on like size, looks, color options, WAF, etc....
@mengirex
@mengirex 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Nemo, how are you man? I have a question, I know it is not recommended to combine ported and sealed subwoofers. But my question is: Can a ported subwoofer like the SVS PC-4000 be combined with the REL Carbon Special? Thank you.
@NemoPropaganda
@NemoPropaganda 3 жыл бұрын
I would say no. The designs are wildly different, the carbon special will be much quicker to respond so you may have constant and variable phase issues and you won’t be able to hear the goodness of the Carbon Special. Highly not recommended. 1 carbon special will sound better vs running both pb4000 and carbon special at the same time.
@mengirex
@mengirex 3 жыл бұрын
@@NemoPropaganda Hi. Thanks a lot for your response. I do have another question though. What if I use my SVS subwoofers for bass (LFE Channel), and I use the REL Carbon Special strictly for High Level connection; and thus, create the 3D home theater system? Thanks
@NemoPropaganda
@NemoPropaganda 3 жыл бұрын
If you have both try it. Personally I would sell the 4000 and grab a second Carbon Special. You can’t mix SQ and SPL subwoofers. Well, you shouldn’t. It’s like putting off-road tires on a Ferrari.
@mengirex
@mengirex 3 жыл бұрын
@@NemoPropaganda Thanks a lot for your inputs.
@noyavargel
@noyavargel Жыл бұрын
hey bro ! i have question for you man ! i just sold my SVS SB-2000 pro because i want a more sound quality sub for music ! and people directed me to REL.. and i want to ask your opinion if i should get 2x T/5X or 1X T/9X . which option will give me better sound quality and better punchy clean bass? thank you !
@NemoPropaganda
@NemoPropaganda Жыл бұрын
I believe we're talking in the discord about this?
@noyavargel
@noyavargel Жыл бұрын
@@NemoPropaganda haha yes we are ty bro
@roundearthshill248
@roundearthshill248 2 жыл бұрын
A car guy and an SQ sub guy? Subbed.
@NemoPropaganda
@NemoPropaganda 2 жыл бұрын
aye! welcome aboard, feel free to join the discord, it's free and we got more like minded people there: Discord Link: discord.gg/3PkFQf4y6Z
@jeffreyscott4564
@jeffreyscott4564 Жыл бұрын
Just bought one to compliment my Rotel 1580m2, B&W 703s2 and am trying to figure out the best wiring configuration.
@NemoPropaganda
@NemoPropaganda Жыл бұрын
Nice! I'm sure REL or your dealer would be happy to help but I always suggest you just experiment for yourself. The T9X is fairly simple to setup with very few options unless you're doing dual theater/music and using both LFE & highlevel.
@jeffreyscott4564
@jeffreyscott4564 Жыл бұрын
@@NemoPropaganda Your video helped immensely. And everything you said about the T9X is spot on. When I heard it in the store I was blown away. Then hearing it in my listening environment I'm convinced this is one of the very best Subs on the market. The things I like best are the total adjustability/control and the imaging. By that I mean you literally can't tell where the low frequency response is actually coming from. I bought this on the recommendation from my Audio Advisor and so glad I bought the REL T9X
@NemoPropaganda
@NemoPropaganda Жыл бұрын
@@jeffreyscott4564 Very nice, I'm happy to hear you're loving it. Feel free to hop in our free discord if you want to share any pics of the setup: discord.gg/nemopropaganda
@Novilicious
@Novilicious 3 жыл бұрын
Rel’s over high level are MAGIC. They disappear like no other. I can’t wait to step up to 510’s or 812 from them.
@NemoPropaganda
@NemoPropaganda 3 жыл бұрын
I don't see why not, that's really the whole point of the S range and up. A lot of people think REL doesn't have "that much bass" to me that's just not true, sure the cheaper stuff like the 5x can't play as loud, it's a tiny sub for gods sake but their larger stuff can pound just like anything else including the 9x pair I have here.
@TM-fx2pi
@TM-fx2pi 2 жыл бұрын
I have two s/812 paired with my Cornwall iv’s. AWESOME!!
@Novilicious
@Novilicious 2 жыл бұрын
@@TM-fx2pi I’m jealous. That sounds exquisite!
@TM-fx2pi
@TM-fx2pi 2 жыл бұрын
@@Novilicious you will not be disappointed if you upgrade.
@cobraatje123
@cobraatje123 2 жыл бұрын
While searching for info about REL(need a sub(s) with high level connection), I found your channel. Very informative and I like your honesty and your style! My room is 6x3.60x2.40 metres, do you think 2xRel T5x would be sufficient for music only. I live in an apartment, so no really loud listening. Would 1 or 2x Rel T9x have enough output for movies? I owned the Rythmik F12, could you compare 1xT9x to 1xRythmik F12 output wise? I'm doubting to go full Rels or only Rel for music and Rel+ JL Audio D110 for movies. I will make an appointment to go listen to some Rels, but not listening in your own room is always tricky. I saw you mentioning in 2 videos that you find JL Audio an SPL brand. That surprises me, have you heard JL's? I'm curious why you do not find JL Audio to be on the SQ side? Personally I find JL to be SQ subs with much SPL:-). I owned the JL Audio F112 and Rythmik E15 and F12. Currently I have the JL Audio D110+D108. Integration for music with both brands is great. I also owned the SVS SB2000 and XTZ10.17 Edge and could not integrate them to my liking for music listening. For music I have a slight preference for Rythmik over JL Audio, I prefer the 'snappier' sound the Rythmiks gives. But I'm the only one, every one else(3 people :-)) I know who owned Rythmik and JL Audio prefered JL Audio over Rythmik for music.
@NemoPropaganda
@NemoPropaganda 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Cobra, I havn't heard JL for a long time now, I'll admit I could be wrong, maybe it was the room I heard them in many years ago. It's hard to say what will be "enough" 1 F12 will have more headroom and extension than 1 T9x by a fair amount as it's a larger sub. The two are incredibly close with respect to fidelity. For the T5x pair again it's hard to say if it will be enough. It certainly was enough for me and just for fun I added my F12 as a third sub set to handle 30hz and below and holey hell that was insanely awesome! Still though on their own I felt the 5x pair offered plenty of bass but how much bass is "enough" is so personal. I would email REL and ask them since they have more experience with setting up subs in different size rooms than I do :). I'm trying to get my hands on a JL sub but they're pretty darn pricey and JL said they can't send me a review sample because their inventory is too low due to the chip shortage.
@cobraatje123
@cobraatje123 2 жыл бұрын
@@NemoPropaganda Thx Nemo for your quick reply. For a small room like yours and stereo orientated, I think the JL Audio Dominion series would be fine. The E- and F series are better but the Dominions are great little subs. The Rythmik F12 was more than enough for me for movies, so maybe 1 REL T9x would be enough. Interesting that you find both soundwise on par with each other, very different approaches. I listened to music with only the JL Audio D110 and listened with only the D108. I liked the integration(could also be placement) with the D108 better and heard enough bass. I think 2x Rel T5x would be fine for music in my room. 2 Rels and 1 Rythmik must be impressive to listen too 😀 I'm gonna listen to some Rels and will based on that, make my decision. For now 2xRel T5x+ 1x JL D110 or 2x Rel T9x are my preferred options.
@NemoPropaganda
@NemoPropaganda 2 жыл бұрын
@@cobraatje123 I think 2 t5x would be enough for 80% of people, but i just get scared to say for sure YES because some people are crazy bass heads lol Like if you want the boosted bass sound T5X is not for you, but if you want the balanced bass sound the a T5X pair will sound amazing! But if you listen to bass heavy music like edm past 85dB like 90+ you may want to move up to 7x or 9x. Either way the options you're considering are both awesome!
@cobraatje123
@cobraatje123 2 жыл бұрын
@@NemoPropaganda I contacted REL and they advised me for my room and speakers, Raidho mini monitors, the S series. But the S series I find too big(WAF) and too expensive. I had a listening session @ a REL dealer; listened to the REL T5x, T9x and my JL D110. I listened in a room a bit bigger than my room. I could take all the time I needed to listen and compare. Set up was with Elac bookshelfs with ribbons like my Raidho's have. It took me a few minutes to get used to the duller less detailed and imo less sound from the Elacs compared to my Raidho's. First I listened to the T9x for about 30 minutes, then switching to the T5x. Within seconds it was clear to me that in a relatively 'bigger' room and using a high crossover, the T9x was the better sub. The sound collapsed a bit and there was no more the wall of sound with the T5x. JL D110 vs T9x. The REL dealer found REL to be better :-). I preferred the JL D110, a bit more 'punchier' bass that I like a bit more. Both great subs and very good integration. If I did not needed high Level+LFE connections I would have kept my JL's. I decided to buy 2xT9x to be on the save side with movies ;-)
@NemoPropaganda
@NemoPropaganda 2 жыл бұрын
@@cobraatje123 As long as the room isn't too big the 9x is amazing, but it is a small sub, a pair can do amazing things but if the room is really big like 20x24ft or something like that it may reach it's limit with movies since movies can be incredibly demanding with bass. Also how loud you listen is a big factor. Personally I'm not trying to recreate theater levels of volume, I just want it to sound fantastic around 75-80db, that's all my baby ears can handle :D
@robertrambaldi1066
@robertrambaldi1066 7 ай бұрын
Hey mate - great review (from Australia). I’m deciding between one t9x or KC62. I have two setups that I’ll play around with them. 1. Pair of Ls50wiis. 2 Amphion 7LS w Hegel H190. Mostly interested for musicality (listen to all genres but lots of Jazz) and need to have that extra “pronounced” bass in the mix. Any additional thoughts would be super helpful - I can get both for similar price. Cheers
@NemoPropaganda
@NemoPropaganda 7 ай бұрын
T9x all the way, it's tonal character is richer and it has more nuance detail & bass fidelity. The KC62 is amazing in it's own way for those that need maximum extension in a small package at lower volumes.
@robertrambaldi1066
@robertrambaldi1066 7 ай бұрын
@@NemoPropaganda awesome, thanks very much
@robertrambaldi1066
@robertrambaldi1066 7 ай бұрын
@@NemoPropaganda thanks! I ended up getting a Rel 7X
@sonicplayroompiano4302
@sonicplayroompiano4302 2 жыл бұрын
Do you think this sounds better than the SVS sb 2000 pro?
@NemoPropaganda
@NemoPropaganda 2 жыл бұрын
kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qKuqY5aJ0MnXnH0.html
@enjoshi-godrez8775
@enjoshi-godrez8775 3 жыл бұрын
Could you maybe cover even higher class of subwoofers like the s series, g25hp, or JL audio stuff? Of course, the one I should really be asking is your back.
@yamafanboy
@yamafanboy 3 жыл бұрын
JL audio subs are EVEN HIGHER class than REL?
@rog86
@rog86 3 жыл бұрын
Are jl audio as good as rel strictly for music though? Im looking at a dominion d110, or rel tx7
@enjoshi-godrez8775
@enjoshi-godrez8775 3 жыл бұрын
@@yamafanboy JL subs start atound $1k and their flagship is $12.5k
@NemoPropaganda
@NemoPropaganda 3 жыл бұрын
To comment on this whole thread, all 3 of those brands (JL, REL, Rythmik) performance-wise are all high end just different. JL cannot offer a review sample and I have reviewed many Rythmik subwoofers already. Personally I'm not sure I want to review any 100+ lb subwoofers. It's just not fun for me.
@enjoshi-godrez8775
@enjoshi-godrez8775 3 жыл бұрын
@@NemoPropaganda there are smaller stuff in that price range like goldenear subs. I think its worth while to ask if its better to get 2 of your highly rated subs around $1000 like the t9x or go for one more capable sub. How capable depends on if you think the deminiationing returns still warrant double the price again.
@rovd4433
@rovd4433 Жыл бұрын
Nice review thank you. For me, I will not sacrifice getting a sub without an app. And this is why I love svs' subwoofers. I'm surprised at your honesty that you've got sealed 10inch subs in your room and you even said one could be enough, which should tell many audio fans out there that one doesn't really need a gigantic 16in ported sub in a reasonable sized room for entertainment. These guys with great knowledge about subwoofers themselves are regular down the earth people that get sent extremely large subs for reviews only. Unless they've got a specifically built home theatre place why keep a massive cube-like attention seeking box in a tiny room even if you had the cash? My room size is no different from yours BTW and my sb3000 alone is an over-killer. But it is compact and that's why I've bought it. I ran off after I was invited to see a sb4000. It could never be discrete in my little room due to its sheer size plus weight and spouse acceptance factor.
@NemoPropaganda
@NemoPropaganda Жыл бұрын
it all depends on listening habits and personal taste. HT guys for example need a lot of headroom, some of them are chasing substantial output at 12hz!! You'll need 18's for that even in a smaller room. For music guys though, most may be shocked to learn that you don't need too large a subwoofer for music. A pair of 10's is plenty in most rooms.
@samray3461
@samray3461 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder what your perspective is on this: People suggest turning down the sub until it integrates with the speakers and disappears into the presentation. But if the sub is properly integrated and used at reasonable volumes, does a bigger sub (15" vs 12") really provide any more impact or presence?
@NemoPropaganda
@NemoPropaganda 3 жыл бұрын
as with all things it depends on the room and many other factors. In a larger room a larger sub may sound more effortless and natural than a smaller one. it's important to view integration as a spectrum. What's most important is you have the sub type you want (SQ or SPL), next is that it's cable of it's intended function, and finally it should be properly sized to the needs of the room. I guess that's how I view it at least.
@samray3461
@samray3461 3 жыл бұрын
@@NemoPropaganda But can you restate your answer and only use car references? 👌 Appreciate you 100%
@NemoPropaganda
@NemoPropaganda 3 жыл бұрын
@@samray3461 so it depends on the weight of the vehicle and what you’re trying to accomplish. Shoving an LS1 into a miata is fun but some people would say thats not a daily driver but to some it is. Drivability is on a spectrum. How’s that?
@samray3461
@samray3461 3 жыл бұрын
@@NemoPropaganda Now you're speaking my language!
@hangkooshin3170
@hangkooshin3170 Ай бұрын
If I replace 3 B&W subwoofers (two asw608 one asw 610,) with Two REL T9X , do you think it will be huge upgrade?
@NemoPropaganda
@NemoPropaganda Ай бұрын
Yes absolutely, I owned an asw608 for 2 years, it's a great little sub but it has its limits, having a pair helps but even the 610 is very limited, they extend low but run into distortion quickly. The T9X pair will sound tonally richer, give you more bass fidelity, and play fuller, cleaner, and louder.
@hangkooshin3170
@hangkooshin3170 Ай бұрын
Thank you! I listened REL T9X at Best buy Magniloa. Also I listened KEF kube 12 in the same room. IMO, KEF is bit more cleaner, more natural, and also bit more louder at around 30hz than REL. But the Price of KEF is only half of REL( in KEF Store), I bought 2 KEF 12. It really improved the sound quality from B&W 608, It blend well with main speakers and more independent, more punch and made whole range of music more clear. Thanks Again.
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