The Orient Mako Is BACK! Mako III Review (The Real One!)

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After Years of rumors, speculation, and most of all confusion. The Orient Mako III is finally here. It long winding story, but the end result is one worthy of Orient's legacy.
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00:00 It Does EXIST!
00:55 Long Winding Road
03:27 Kamasu Platform and Specs
04:14 On The Wrist
05:03 The Confusing Mess of Names
06:50 We Are to Blame
07:50 A Lot Of the Same
09:09 Same Negatives
10:42 The Hawaiian of Dive Watches
11:54 Grey Dial
14:34 LUME!
15:30 Confusing Colorways
17:00 All You Need

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@RelativeTime Жыл бұрын

One correction. For the movement, the beat rate is 21,600 BPH. I copied the text for the video from an older one and forgot to change that part. Also check out Dave's Unboxing of the limited version: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ncihmZN2v7aoY5c.html

@rodrigopinto4000 Жыл бұрын

Also, I believe the crown is different on this watch (it definitely potrudes more and has a different teeth pattern to it) than on the Kamasu

@9426sunny Жыл бұрын

Mako=shark(Look at the back case), Ray = Stingray(Look at the whole case shape), Kamasu = Japanese Barracuda (Look at the minute hand's shape)

@sheepdog-kp9hb 24 күн бұрын

Interesting

@sheepdog-kp9hb 24 күн бұрын

I'm so confused what do we call it? Please help lol

@BoozewithNick Жыл бұрын

As an Orient fan, I loved this unapologetic Orient geek-fest. Too much fun. I love the new Mako 3, the grey dial looks great, and I loved it on the brown leather and grey fabric straps you had it on. This one will be joining the Mako II and Ray II Raven in my collection as soon as I see one at a good price. Thanks for this Orient-oriented episode.

@MikeSmith-er1qs Жыл бұрын

Great summation comment…. “This is really all you need.” Absolutely correct. The Orient diver collections are just KILLIN’ it!!! I have two Kamasu, two baby tritons, and a Mako 2.

@NoNameNo.5 Жыл бұрын

Been waiting for this watch! Looks amazing, great review

@hobyabernathy9942 Жыл бұрын

Thanks Shane for another great review. I appreciate the backstory of Orient and recognize the effort you put forth in creating this video. Nice job in summarizing the situation. The Mako 3 looks good but it seems like I always go back to consider the Kamasu…one of these days I might have to pull the trigger! Thanks again!

@reinaldoraphael166 Жыл бұрын

Thank you Shane!! Great video as always!!

@bernardbarroga1497 Жыл бұрын

Good looking watch! And, superb review as always.👍🏼

@XjohnjohnX88 Жыл бұрын

Great video! And it reminds me that I used to watch your channel 1 or 2 years ago, then I can't remember. Until the notification of this video. Glad I watched it 😊

@bryane2857 Жыл бұрын

Thank You... Because of you I started a small collection.

@RicanAggie Жыл бұрын

This is one of my favorite watch channels!

@twitchyjambo Жыл бұрын

Great video Shane🤯 great content man😎👍

@eugenesergio 7 ай бұрын

Great review!On point on the look and feel dor subdued looking dial.

@markgray5744 Жыл бұрын

The 12 6 9 dial with sword hands is classic military spec diver.

@dustinr16 Жыл бұрын

Great review as usual. I own both a blue Mako USA II and a black Kamasu and love them both. Modded both with LIW bezels and ceramic inserts. Two points: Firstly, the Mako USA was basically a custom watch ordered by the US distributor “Orient Watch USA” and thus was originally only available through the Orient USA store (and sold only to the USA and Canada). Later, they allowed Marc from Long Island Watch to sell the Mako USA II at the end of their production. Secondly the Kamasu was named by Orient Watch USA through a voting poll sent out to customers. So it was actually fans that voted on the final name.

@adk7962 Жыл бұрын

I personally appreciate the history lesson. Especially since I’m fairly new to watches. It looks like some sellers are calling it the Kamasu Mako 3. Which makes sense I suppose. When prices come down a bit, I am for sure getting the white dial. Thanks for the great review! Oh and I like the numerals.

@trailblazer2339 Жыл бұрын

Great to see that you still have your red Kamasu with you : ) I got mine (red dial) around the same time as yours. Even though, i dont wear it much, it is still part of my collection.

@RelativeTime Жыл бұрын

Every once in a while I think about selling it, but I don't think I ever will.

@younusimam-thesalamproject6340 Жыл бұрын

Love my green Kamasu! Great collection anchor.

@timrosenthal46 Жыл бұрын

Great review as usual. I love it , and want one. Orient is one of those brands I just have never got around to buying but I like them a lot !

@AlexanderB. Жыл бұрын

Beautiful! The colour combo works for me with the gunmetal dial, the earthy bezel colour with gilt and orange accents. And thank god it's got sapphire! 😅

@haneda70 Жыл бұрын

Excellent review. Thank you

@nrs6956 Жыл бұрын

Good review. Thank you.

@indyawichofficial1346 Жыл бұрын

I must say that this channel is by far the one, if not the best around. From the content to the context, to the way of presentation. Solid, staight to the point, there is no single minute I would call boring. Always informative, objective and interesting - love the perfect narration. Not to mention the look - edit, sound etc. All the best, keep up the fantastic work !!!

@RelativeTime Жыл бұрын

Wow! Thank you and thanks for watching!

@dparis2172 Жыл бұрын

Agree.

@larrydalton2205 Жыл бұрын

Indy got it right.

@vincebrickner5529 Жыл бұрын

Nice review I like my kamsu and my ray. Keep them coming.

@ArniesTech Жыл бұрын

HOLY!!! I always wanted this Mako dial but never liked the chapter ring. Now my dream has come true 💪🙏😍

@horstweihrauch1 Жыл бұрын

Got the blue version. Very nice watch

@timefliesby-jleo474 Жыл бұрын

I love this colour way! Awesome! Great video and I enjoyed seeing all the mako/ray/ and kamasu’s in this video

@RelativeTime Жыл бұрын

Thanks. I've gotten a lot of footage of those over the years, so I might as well use it.

@timefliesby-jleo474 Жыл бұрын

@@RelativeTime yeah for sure, it was great, is the burnt orange only a UK release?

@RelativeTime Жыл бұрын

@@timefliesby-jleo474 I think it and another blue version are JDM only.

@jasperyoung2466 Жыл бұрын

Damn that grey dial is insane

@larrydalton2205 Жыл бұрын

Thanks shane, it's nice to see an entry level Orient diver again. I never had the regular Mako 2 but the Ray 2 in blue was my first entry level modern diver before buying an SKX and going deep down this rabbit hole of dive watches. The regular Mako with arabics has always seemed to have weaker lume than the Ray line and the USA lines but even though I never bought a Mako, I always liked the look. I still have that Ray and did a minor mod on it to get a tapered bracelet and sapphire. Still have the white and black versions of the USA 2. So yes the drawbacks are continuing with the small crown and untapered bracelet. I don't even really mind pressed clasps as they often feel slimmer than milled. Orient will probably always stay in my collection.

@josephj7387 Жыл бұрын

Amazing review as always Shane! So much useful information and perspective. I like this grey sunburst look as well. Cheers from Bengaluru India 🙏🇮🇳

@daleclark3138 Жыл бұрын

I have four or five Kamasu models. Now thanks to this video I have another to look for.

@brianmsahin Жыл бұрын

I'm feeling old watching this Shane as I'm wearing my old orange bezel 44.5mm Mako XL, which I think I bought sometime around 2011 with its shake to wake non hacking 46943 movement. I think it came out sometime between the first and second Mako releases. Still one of my favourite watches, excellent timekeeping, accidentally magnetized it a few years so took the opportunity to have it serviced and it's running at +1 spd! You do need a wrist on the larger side with its 51mm lug to lug but I think 7.25" and above is fine. I do like this new one whatever people want to call it and excellent review as always!

@rickrounds2173 Жыл бұрын

Perhaps Orient could give Seiko some tips on how to line up the bezel with the watch indices.

@RelativeTime Жыл бұрын

That would be nice.

@adammordo Жыл бұрын

And maybe even hook them up with their sapphire glass suppliers.

@aryayogarudhita3953 11 ай бұрын

Touché

@Rauz11 11 ай бұрын

@@adammordo🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

@carlosjerson6730 Жыл бұрын

I just got the Orient Baby Triton, the bronze case painted and green dial, I'm ready to love it and behold it for the rest of my life, to each its own I say.

@edcfyau Жыл бұрын

Nice review. I really wish they being back the mako usa white dial

@erraldstyler 5 ай бұрын

That red Kamasu was my first and i really love it. The dial is insane in sunlight. Definately getting the grey Mako 3

@williamhill7312 Жыл бұрын

Great video

@corneroftheroom3896 Жыл бұрын

I love the color of the seconds hand. I’m such a sucker for orange and gray.

@timothywillis8883 Жыл бұрын

Got several Orients, and I love them all! Top quality for reasonable price!

@Nefville Жыл бұрын

I'm definitely a fan of the Orient Mako Kamasu Kanno Ray Tristar 3000. All kidding aside I like the arabics, makes it more versatile looking to me. Kind of a field/ dive watch, or what we call in the south, a sinkhole watch.

@KNM48 Жыл бұрын

I've just picked up the white/silver dial version. I think it looks even better in real life than on the web.

@larryleyba6496 Жыл бұрын

I loved my red Kamasu. It went missing a couple of years ago and I mis it terribly. Oddly enough two other Orients are missing. My Mako XL with a full lume dial, and my champaign colored Ranger. I still have my green Defender 2 and a Nami with a carbon fiber dial. I need to find those watches.

@ScoobieDoobie197474 Жыл бұрын

That orange fume dial is fire

@gopherproxy Жыл бұрын

Doood - you taking off the specs the way you do means awesome lecture ahead 😄👍! Fab review and I think you're right about this new Mako (or whatever it's going to be called) - it's simply not interesting enough in all regards, particulary a step down in design-language compared to the sharp and consistent barracuda look of the red Kamasu. Sadly the bezel spring (I guess?) of my own Kamasu broke after 1 year, it's now a 60 click turn with a wobbly feel, but still love the look of it. Heard about quite some issues with the Kamasu bezel, after I started researching the topic...

@janiranta8954 7 күн бұрын

Just bought the blue one with kamasu II name. About 320e. Cant wait for next week to get it.

@MIt-ql5bo 3 ай бұрын

Thanks again for this Video

@RelativeTime 3 ай бұрын

No problem. Thanks for watching!

@georgegonzalez8818 Жыл бұрын

I own the Ray llc. Love it. Looking forward to buying this one

@JohnBuckmaster-sw3wm Жыл бұрын

It’s always the bracelet… I put my Kamasu on a jubilee with solid end links and a better partially milled clasp and transformed the watch, and one of my favorite watches… A collection of ever 60. I’ll do the same with this one and it’ll be awesome.!

@anthonydevono8833 Жыл бұрын

Have they sorted out the crown on this compared to my kamasu Teal green dial as mine is small and hard to get the thread to catch to re screw in

@Mr_Memer.876 Жыл бұрын

I actually found the crown on the Mako 3 to be far superior to the one on the Kamasu. The teeth are more aggressive giving much better grip. I kept hold of my strapcode Kamasu bracelet when I sold it, so i swapped out the OEM bracelet as soon as it arrived

@Sepulkrum Жыл бұрын

looks great

@davidlloydjones752 Жыл бұрын

Definitely the best Mako yet.😀

@karlsenula9495 Жыл бұрын

Dial layout Gives me a bit of a Longine Hydroconquest look to it

@ericsherer3505 Жыл бұрын

Crown size is my only issue with my Mako USA. Can not understand why they stay with it.

@ringaleavo Жыл бұрын

The minute hand is too short, thank you Seiko!

@dunderhay9169 Жыл бұрын

Great photography, and I found your introduction about Orient names interesting. There are still many great value watches, as you say, the Mako 3 or Kamasu would be as reliable, tough and comfortable as many much more expensive watches.

@KNM48 Жыл бұрын

I like the Mako and it's more field/pilot style dial. I'd like to see a plain black version of the Mako 3 though.

@sneak880 Жыл бұрын

Great video as usual... Cheers! By the way, from a few real pics and videos I've seen of the 'white' dial Mako III variant, it's actually a champagne colour.

@RelativeTime Жыл бұрын

That's intersting. They should of gone with a polar white.

@sneak880 Жыл бұрын

@@RelativeTime agreed!

@Bonatno Жыл бұрын

Would make a great explorer homage by popping off the bezel and putting on a plain non rotating bezel.

@smokingbeetles5793 10 ай бұрын

Love Oris. Great quality

@danieljones3683 Жыл бұрын

I have always been a fan of Orient watches. I have a Mako 1 with the blue dial. I also have a Ray 2 with a black dial. I want a Kamasu with a red or green dial, I can't make up my mind. The Mako dial has allways been my favorite for legibility. I am very interested in the Mako 3. I would like to see the dial colors in person but for now my choice would be the grey/silver dial.

@R3D-Remi Жыл бұрын

Where and when can I buy in the US?

@TinBin-Craig Жыл бұрын

nice watch... like a lot cheers

@martinkavanagh196 Жыл бұрын

Would you call that "Day-Date" complication 'double action' or 'Triple'?

@chrisroy1613 Жыл бұрын

I needed to add that champagne dial to my collection....it kinda jumped off the screen at me!

@S-Ltd1000 Жыл бұрын

I had a V1 with the twin crowns. Loved that watch and regret selling it. For me the pick of the current range is the Triton mini. A little bigger than the Kamasu and the Mako with a more serious tool watch design.

@Halimsahin6 Жыл бұрын

which color is better?

@dig494 Жыл бұрын

I am an Orient fan. Comparing this piece with my blue Kamasu on a Long Island Watch bracelet I have to go with the Kamasu but if one was on the fence they are cheap enough to buy both.

@adamhill364 Жыл бұрын

I bought the original Mako USA with the extra pusher, it's bean in the rotation for years now

@BetamaxBabe Жыл бұрын

I liked my red Kamasu when I had one! It was one of the most legible watches I've had. I became annoyed with the disproportioned crown and eventually sold the watch. I'm surprised Orient hasn't corrected that yet.

@snapfitness1 Жыл бұрын

Im really hesitant on buying after market bracelets. More times then not they arent long enough and i dont think i should pay more for extra links. I like the newedt mako and may look into either the white or silver dial.

@MrBacchus18 Жыл бұрын

To be more specific the red kamasu I associate with your channel 😀

@Intelligence3 4 ай бұрын

I recently chose the green Baby Triton. Horizontal Day-Date can look dated, or it can look vintage-inspired. To me it always looks dated on the Orient dive watches, or on any contemporary dive watch, tbh. But the colorways of these are outstanding and unique and it was a close thing for me and for the price it sure seems like owning both is a an option. I like that these colorways are really different, which gives a reason to consider these over the Kamasu. I also think the Arabic Indices provide the same inherent value.

@luishd1726 Жыл бұрын

Why they insist in doing this so big ? Make it 39/40 mm and 20 lug to lug. Seiko has just done It with his Seiko 5 SKX style. It is the reason why I have not bougth a Kamatsu.

@TheGrenadier97 Жыл бұрын

I like the size in my skinny 6,25" wrist, although it could use 20 lug width. I believe that Orient considers a smaller Kamasu in the future, hopefully with better prices than the smaller 5KX.

@larrydalton2205 Жыл бұрын

Somehow on this watch and the Ray and Mako USA series the size seems smaller on my wrist. I really don't notice the difference between it and my 40mm divers. In wearing my Christopher Ward Trident Proo 300 40mm today and looking at my wrist it seems no bigger than my Mako USA 2 white dial. Even though it is.

@stavros_katsopr Жыл бұрын

Funny enough you're right, whenever you come in my mind, the first thing that pops up next is that red Kamasu... Cheers Shane, happy you continue the Orient's Divers Saga, looks like you'll be the source for it in the future. Be well mate.

@RelativeTime Жыл бұрын

Thanks. In some ways this is also a long term review of that Kamasu. Got some newer great shots of it to include.

@kennethchia4517 Жыл бұрын

How do you compare it to your slightly pricier Seiko monster STO with penguin feet?

@RelativeTime Жыл бұрын

Compared to the Antarctica version, I like that better just because of the unique dial. But if we are talking about any other monster, I'd say the Mako comes out just because of the Sapphire crystal. Very different styles. Like the Mako / Kamasu will be more contemporary, while the monster is a bit stranger and more aggressive. Other than that, fairly comparable.

@wuyeah-kx8es Жыл бұрын

Naming I thought was pretty clear, dial dictates the watch. Numerals Mako, round indices Ray and rectangular indices Kamasu.

@vaclav_fejt 3 ай бұрын

I don't like the Mako dial layout and hands, but I respect it for what it is - the base of beautiful original watches like the Ray and Kamasu series.

@RelativeTime 3 ай бұрын

This is true.

@daniesteban4269 Жыл бұрын

Hi Shane. Please, can you confirm if the arabic numbers and the applied indices are totally white or are a bit green cause of lumen? Thanks at all. Best regards.

@RelativeTime Жыл бұрын

They are white, but will often look a little green because of the lume.

@daniesteban4269 Жыл бұрын

@@RelativeTimeThanks for your fast answer. Hope all the luck for your chanel. Best regards.

@ishantsoni4748 7 ай бұрын

Hi i which one is good for daily formal wear as well as casual between RA-AA0819N19B an RA-AA0810N19B? I never had any diver watch

@RelativeTime 7 ай бұрын

It depends on your own style, but I think the RA-AA0819N19B would be better for something a little more formal. Although depending on how formal... maybe a good sports watch would work as well.

@zippy8442 Жыл бұрын

also a killer midrange by innova

@adamnetburn9067 6 ай бұрын

What bracelet is that on the kamasu? its sick

@RelativeTime 6 ай бұрын

It's a bracelet from strapcode. I think it's called the retro razr.

@robbbbery Жыл бұрын

I know this vid is about the mako... but what watch is in the background at 37 seconds?

@RelativeTime Жыл бұрын

That's the new Hydrotimer by Jackmason. jackmasonbrand.com/pages/hydrotimer I'll have a review in a few weeks.

@brianmccord7387 Жыл бұрын

Sorry to double post but I do remember Marc from Long Island Watch telling Tristano that Orient Watch is actually in a weird place in the Seiko Epson corporate umbrella where they are actually overseen by the printer division and they don’t get the same marketing and research and design budget as their big brother. I think that shows in their weird approach to proprietary websites and model names. It seems like someone needs to step in and re-organize things for them, so that they can capitalize on being the value for money diver and dress watch king.

@simonwright6882 Жыл бұрын

As far as the naming goes it really should come from the manufacturer. Its weird how you can move up through the levels in collecting yet i sill see the strong value for money in these pieces.

@brianmccord7387 Жыл бұрын

I have always felt that the 22 mm bracelet is out of proportion to the usual Orient diver cases. This was particularly egregious on the Mako USA.

@magnang Жыл бұрын

Yep. I felt the same about my ray 2. Easy enough fix.. buy a 22mm and 20mm oyster online.. make sure they are the same model, same brand. Use the 22mm endlink with the 20mm bracelet. 20mm band makes a huge upgrade to how the watch looks and feels. It's worth doing.

@danpodina438 Жыл бұрын

I have to disagree on this. Dive watches should have a bold wrist presence and I think the 22mm bracelet helps.

@brianmccord7387 Жыл бұрын

@@danpodina438 that’s a fair point but if you had seen the 40 mm Mako USA, you would see that the case was actually swallowed by the bracelet and I think it reduced its wrist presence.

@TheGrenadier97 Жыл бұрын

I'm ok with 22, but sometimes i look in it on my wrist and have that feeling that "there's too much steel there". I may try multilink bracelets to see kf it changes the look.

@danpodina438 Жыл бұрын

@@brianmccord7387 I can see your point. In the end it all comes down to personal preference.

@ngebahasjam Жыл бұрын

I am still waiting for the ivory dial's price to go down a lil bit. Here in Germany, it costs more than other 2 colour options. I think that ivory colour is simply superb and stunning. Plus I haven't had diver watch with that colour, and also, to give variety on my Orient diver watches. I have Red Kamasu and green Ray III (Kamasu II). So now, time for ivory Mako III. As for blue, I have had already too many diver watches from other brands with blue dial

@RelativeTime Жыл бұрын

There is also a new 40mm diver coming from Orient. Not sure of the name yet. I think Orient Japan is just calling it the 40mm Mako.

@fbcpraise Жыл бұрын

How many different versions of the Bambino are “still alive and kicking?” Orient seems okay with multi-generational watch lines.

@RelativeTime Жыл бұрын

That's a good point. Although is the Bambino name from Orient, or another unoffical nickname?

@ralphdsouza5022 Жыл бұрын

I ❤ Orient

@bruceleroy8063 Жыл бұрын

I like Hawaiian pizza and sharp, yet whimsical dials.

@joshuam6828 8 күн бұрын

Complicated story, I ended up with a Mako 3. It’s the Grey face. If I got the Burgundy face and black bezel I’d be more hyped about it. But it’s okay. I’ll just put some NATO Straps and use it for work. It’s classier than my G-shock🤷🏻‍♂️

@chrisbradshaw7708 Жыл бұрын

I will admit to being a Seiko fanboy, and have the SKX007, 009, and the Samurai. I have yet to pull the trigger on an Orient, and I'm not sure why. If I had to pinpoint a reason, perhaps odd case sizes and lug widths, particularly on the Bambinos. That said, this grey dial looks spectacular and might be the one that hooks me.

@RelativeTime Жыл бұрын

The bambino lug width still confuses me. No idea why they went that way.

@nedflanders3769 Жыл бұрын

Ugh. The crown is hard enough to use on the Kamasu. And you’re saying it’s even harder to use on tis new watch? They really need to make the crown bigger, or the crown guards smaller, or both!

@cebrium 10 ай бұрын

Do you think this would look good on a black, stainless steel bracelet?

@RelativeTime 10 ай бұрын

Hard to say without seeing it. If it was a fitted bracelet so you didn't see any gaps in the end links, I think it would look okay. But if a normal straight and link I think the silver and black clashed too much

@Ahmed_bh Жыл бұрын

@8:08 F6922 beats at 21,600 BPH

@RelativeTime Жыл бұрын

Opps, you are right. I copied the card off an older video and forgot to change that part. Thanks for pointing it out.

@MrKanjidude Жыл бұрын

It's a pretty good looking watch, that's for sure. I like the colors and the somewhat unique design. Hope they'll offer a smaller size without the day complication in the future.

@krasnaludek298 4 ай бұрын

I really like this watch & typically gray is my favorite color tone, but the gold ruins it for me. I’m not a fan of the 1980s pimptastic gold. I’d go for the Blue or Cream dial versions, as neither has any gold accents. 👍🏻

@JudasIscariot81 Жыл бұрын

So it's the Mako 5 if the Kamasu 1 and 2 are the Mako 3 and 4.

@watchalot919 Жыл бұрын

The Kamasu is indeed the best main stream brand entry diver, but it's a shame Orient are so reluctant to make smaller watches. However, compare it to a microbrand and look at the difference. I look at my Phoibos Voyager 3, which is about the same price, but better in about every way