I argue constantly with some of my buddies who caution me about "overloading short brass." They don't realize that the only reason for the higher brass was to keep the powder from burning the paper of the early hulls. They maintain that if they didn't need to put the extra metal on the hull, they wouldn't, because it costs more money. I load heavy buck and slug rounds in the short-brass Fiocchi hulls, and generally reuse them.
@paulrodriguez39822 жыл бұрын
and....low brass is for a specific reason, doesn't need resized, essential for us that burn thru and reload thousands of hulls for the trap range...can use a progressive loader.
@sylviacandler55412 жыл бұрын
In my load below, the buckshot were right out of the mold, no tumbling and no lube. For deer and hogs I would tumble and powder coat. Many thanks Wade for all your fantastic help in educating me. I surely hope you could put out a reloading manual, as you are the PO Ackley of shot shell reloading!
@BubbaRountreeOutdoors2 жыл бұрын
my pleasure for sure!! BP is working on a new manual now that will include several of my loads! Hopefully it will be available in 2022...
@dieselten013 жыл бұрын
Thanks Wade. I always found it interesting the dynamic between 3.5” buckshot and 2.75” buckshot. You are correct, the individual pellets are the same size and moving faster in the 2.75”, the 3.5” just has more pellets.
@HEAVYHITTrS2 жыл бұрын
Brother Wade you are a wealth of knowledge sir. Your videos have brought me leaps and bounds in reloading. Just wanted to say we appreciate you sir. Thank you, Love and prayers to you and your family in 2022.
@jpoeng9 ай бұрын
Wade is a friggin national treasure. He’s single handedly gotten me wanting to get set up to roll my own 12 g when I have the space set up & budget lined up. 👍👍
@BubbaRountreeOutdoors9 ай бұрын
you're too kind my brother...
@jpoeng9 ай бұрын
@@BubbaRountreeOutdoors Please… I didn’t even mention that as a brother in Christ, I’m sure the work you do on this channel is nothing compared to the work you do IRL. 👊
@brucecoleman15093 жыл бұрын
Appreciate your videos. They have helped me to understand more about reloading with buckshot. Thanks
@BubbaRountreeOutdoors3 жыл бұрын
My pleasure Bruce...
@patwade32023 жыл бұрын
I'm going to try this load today, I have several old shotguns that only shoot the 2&3\4" shells, and all you're other load suggestions have Been outstanding, Thanks for sharing,
@quick4753 жыл бұрын
Thanks Wade! Really enjoy these buckshot vids.
@charlesdriggers1993 жыл бұрын
The brass length also was there , because powder could burn through the paper hulls with the larger charges in field loads.
@sobersportsman3 жыл бұрын
I was helping a buddy of mine put up stands yesterday with a new club he joined this year. I just can't work outside anymore until it finally starts to cool off. Those 105+ heat indexes just wear me down too. I'm a heavy guy, 50's, quit smoking for several years now but smoked for 24. The humidity keeps me from breathing some days. But after about noon that sun coming straight down on me wins every time. That's why hunting is so popular in the South. It's the first you can go outside. Reverse hibernation.
@BubbaRountreeOutdoors3 жыл бұрын
LOL!! That's a perfect diagnosis Doc!!
@vernonwilson47623 жыл бұрын
Great job wade
@hodagtrapper41673 жыл бұрын
Thanks Wade for the great videos plus I just used the discount you provided at Marty's Arms to purchase a #4 and 00 combo mold!
@BubbaRountreeOutdoors3 жыл бұрын
Awesome sauce!! You're gonna love it.
@ruizhou96122 жыл бұрын
You are not kidding on the part "I am using stuff that you guys can maybe get your hands on." Its rough out there for components.
@BubbaRountreeOutdoors2 жыл бұрын
Yeah! It's gone from impossible to only ridiculous to find components now-a-days.
@ruizhou96122 жыл бұрын
@@BubbaRountreeOutdoors Wade I made some #1 BP NP #1 buckshot loads last night using clear Fiochi hulls + Nobel primers exactly what you were making in the video. Will try them today. I am glad BP supports you with products, as things get more rough and maybe some ideas. Put out a wish list of items you might need in channel and I bet viewers might send extras (if it gets that bad) I have 0000 steel buckshot I would love to see you load and take to the Bubba range for a test.
@sylviacandler55412 жыл бұрын
For self defense, I am using 32g of long shot in a Remington Nitro hull, Cheddite primer, Rem RP wad, 12 pellets from Marty's mold, no buffer, patterns fantastic in std full choke, Speed is 1430 fps. Pellets cast from Wheel Weights.
@cory87913 жыл бұрын
Great vid!!
@texpatriot84623 жыл бұрын
Another great video
@michaelbarrett23463 жыл бұрын
Great video
@dewaynewhite48893 жыл бұрын
Another outstanding vid bubba
@jasonsellick34742 жыл бұрын
Great channel this guy has helped my reloading a great deal
@ARPatriot1776Official3 жыл бұрын
Good video. Enjoyed the video! Keep em coming! AR
@okshotgun3 жыл бұрын
Nice video Wade! I laugh when I hear someone talk about needing a high brass to make their semi-auto work right. Brass height, hull color, and even brand has nothing to do with the hull. Basewad, basewad, and basewad one more time. That tells you what hull you have right there. Keep em coming. God Bless
@saltcreekammo2 жыл бұрын
You mentioned selling hulls, Wade. The way to do it is through UPS... Along with live ammo. That's how the GunBroker guys do it.
@BubbaRountreeOutdoors2 жыл бұрын
yeah, I used to sell hulls a while back but my supply dried up... thanks buddy!
@brucehanson4147 Жыл бұрын
I have buckets of hulls that are branded federals but are really Rio. Had enough dumb luck to order a bunch of rio primers just before things went sideways
@l.a.38872 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video
@glennseripinas8733 жыл бұрын
Great video as always keep up the great work
@WraithChornobyl2 жыл бұрын
Best buckshot size for defense. I would like to do some experiments with a mix of #1 and #4 buck too.
@dieselten013 жыл бұрын
Wade, question on chokes. I see you usually use the Kicks Buck standard full. My understanding is that choke was designed for factory buckshot that doesn’t use plastic shot cup wads. You are getting excellent performance with your plastic shot cup wads consistently in both your Stoeger and Rem 870. Can you comment? Thanks -Nick
@BubbaRountreeOutdoors3 жыл бұрын
The design concept behind the Kicks chokes (as well as a lot of others) is to slow the wad to allow the pellets to advance ahead of the wad thus minimizing the chance for the wad to scatter the pellets as the gas escapes the barrel; Hence the ported tube. But, the short answer is Yes, the chokes were designed for factory type rounds but the chokes do their job and grab and slow any wad passing thru it! I like the Full choke but I have shot thru the Lite full as well with excellent performance, especially with the larger pellets sizes like #000 & #0000!
@paulrodriguez39822 жыл бұрын
For heavy thick non toxic wads (TPS, TUWR, etc.) I find the Kicks is best. For the target lead wads, like the claybuster clones or factory, I find factory chokes are best. The kicks shreds the target wads, which in turn gives me poor patterns.
@WARXDEVILXALAN3 жыл бұрын
Do some with HS6
@BubbaRountreeOutdoors3 жыл бұрын
I an trying to get some HS6!
@thastinger3452 жыл бұрын
"I'm trying to show loads with things you guys can actually get" MG42 wad..."Hold my beer"...Alliant Steel from the other vids "I got you dawg"
@raybates6254 Жыл бұрын
Bam 30 cal will stack by three's in the green short wad I do it for my 2" short loads !
@haroldramirezmedina91533 жыл бұрын
A Wade, thanks for the information, this really good stuff. I reload my rifle and handguns, but I want start shotgun as well. Just a correction, your energy is 1/2 x mass x speed ^2. That tell you that for energy sake, speed has the biggest contribution factor. Energy transfer is key though, you can have lots of energy, but it would do no good if it does not get transfered. Larger projectles would transfer energy better than smaller. So it is a trade off that can be optimized by the shape and design of the projectile (bullet, pellet, slug...etc)
@geraldb42013 жыл бұрын
now i have to go out and get some longshot to try out this loading i have about 40 pounds of #1 buck and i know i can make lots more your slug loads for the lee slugs have been great thinking i might be doing some loading next week if i can find some powder
@charlesdeans7239 Жыл бұрын
#1 is super hard to find and the 20 pellet factory load was a sure deer stopper. But I had no idea that they were not using true .30 caliber pellets until I saw this video. That was great intel to have,thank you for putting that out there for us old school buckshot hunters to know. Do you ever sell any of the 14/15 pellet #1 true .30 caliber loads that you make? If so, I would be interested in getting some. I'm shooting a remington 870 21" barrel and a stoeger m2000 26 " barrel both with a patternmaster wad stopping long range choke. That choke was the best I ever ran across for shooting buckshot. I love it,but the deer hate it!! It would be great if i could send those # 1's after them again!!
@andersonj1each262 жыл бұрын
Also I have 700x, green dot, long shot, clays, steel, imr red. Any videos on those powders would be awesome. I’ll be stalking your videos to find any
@RobertSmith-ub6tk7 ай бұрын
I got about 1000 of the Rio hulls just can’t find no Rio primers.
@tkmoutdoors99303 жыл бұрын
Hey wade! Love the videos keep them coming! Got a question for ya, is Herco powder hot enough for any buckshot loads?
@BubbaRountreeOutdoors3 жыл бұрын
Hey brother! Yes, Herco is excellent for loads up to 1.5 ozs! I have loaded many buckshot rounds with Herco. It really works well in 2 3/4" rounds!
@jonathanricks52493 жыл бұрын
Do you load an 10 gauge if so what works the best
@ftargr3 жыл бұрын
You gotta send him one and the materials
@BubbaRountreeOutdoors3 жыл бұрын
I don't have access to a 10 ga Jonanthan! I wish that I did...
@HeWent203 жыл бұрын
Do you have a good local gun shop you recommend? I live in Great Falls/Chester and I need a new shop for purchasing and gun smithing. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Love the videos been watching you for 5 years now I think it’s awesome seeing some local boys doing big things
@BubbaRountreeOutdoors3 жыл бұрын
I wish that we did Taylor... Our local shop has been a disappointment to folks like me!
@chrishubbard57242 жыл бұрын
Hello Bubba. Just recently found your channel. Learning a lot so far! I purchased a reloader and a whole mess of once fired gun club 2 3/4 12 ga. Shells and Claybusters Fig 8 1 1/8 wads on Craigslist at the start of COVID. I am looking to put together some buckshot loads. Is it possible to use what I have or would I need to get different wads to load buckshot? Thanks
@hogdog512 жыл бұрын
I found some old .36 cal. Lead balls from my old black powder pistol days , I also have some Federal white 2.75" hull & Winchester AA wads . If I cut the petals off I can get 8 in the shell . I'm using 33 grains of Longshot powder . I haven't had a chance to try them yet . But was wondering what your thoughts were on that load . My shot gun is a Mossberg 500 with 28" bbl and mod. Choke . I also have an 18" bbl for same gun cylinder bore .
@BubbaRountreeOutdoors2 жыл бұрын
that load will work but I would start at 29 grains and work up from there. sometimes the hotter rounds will scatter the pattern.
@chrystalsmith873211 ай бұрын
I've noticed in a few of your videos when you tumble the buckshot.. It's pretty and clean, sometimes powder coated. I've noticed it's never dirty with graphite. I bought 2 bags of BAM from Ballistic Products...it's loaded with graphite. I've read back and forth about it. What's your thoughts on the graphite?
@BubbaRountreeOutdoors11 ай бұрын
Most of my shot is loaded in a full-length wad so no real need to do more than give the shot a good polish! The graphite gives an extra layer of protection for those that load a conventional style round. I load my BAM buckshot as is! It's a little messy but no worries!
@tonykirby95742 жыл бұрын
Hi Mr. Wade, trying to understand fps being greater than your reloads. So dose the slower fps in your reloads aid in the tight groups over the faster factory loads ?
@BubbaRountreeOutdoors2 жыл бұрын
sometimes the velocity can make all of the difference when it comes to performance! I have loaded some awesome performers that are moving 1500 fps! it's all about finding the balance with all loads.
@davidvance70592 жыл бұрын
That is a low brass hull correct for buckshot?
@mikewheeler34492 жыл бұрын
Mr Wade hope all is good. Thank you for your information and knowledge. I usually shoot 20 ga due to shoulder problems.. Would this work in a 20ga or need something different. Thanks in advance.
@ricardboswell74903 жыл бұрын
Tell me about it nothing's out there for sale
@Krowka6662 жыл бұрын
Hi wade, quick question. Would the MG42 wads be good for #4 buckshot as well? I’m trying to pick a good wad for #1 and #4, as well as steel BB loads.
@BubbaRountreeOutdoors2 жыл бұрын
yessir! kzfaq.info/get/bejne/g7SJldKFyrnPiqs.html
@nsein0013 жыл бұрын
Where is a good marketplace to buy used hulls?
@dannysutton84473 жыл бұрын
Ballistic products, and precision reloading have once fired hulls in stock
@Quicks1lvr3 жыл бұрын
Ballistic Products usually gets Winchester AA and Federals as used hulls from what I've seen.
@dubful13 жыл бұрын
I recently bought AAHS Hulls from BPI and clay usher wads from SCHEELS. Four hundred hulls to be exact and 4 different bags of 500 clay buster wads of various type for AA hulls. This was about2 months ago. Can’t find shotshell primers anywhere except gun broker and I’m not paying overinflated prices for primers.
@BubbaRountreeOutdoors3 жыл бұрын
All the fellows below have it right! BP and Precision have em in stock now!
@gregday64733 жыл бұрын
Hey Wade, I see you have some Clays powder on your bench, have you worked up any loads for it?
@brucelewis10173 жыл бұрын
Where do you get you're you're lead at to load with
@BubbaRountreeOutdoors3 жыл бұрын
Usually you can find a local tire store that will either give you or sell you scrap wheel weights.
@brucelewis10173 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info sir
@BubbaRountreeOutdoors3 жыл бұрын
@@brucelewis1017 very welcome!
@davidvance70592 жыл бұрын
Low brass hulls?
@negativeZed Жыл бұрын
is this load considered low recoil or it hits hard?
@BubbaRountreeOutdoors Жыл бұрын
No, these rounds would be like a standard load! Not hot nor low recoil.
@negativeZed Жыл бұрын
@@BubbaRountreeOutdoors Thanks for your reply! I see your load sheet update 2022 increased powder for Longshot from 27grains to 29grains. (2 3/4Fiocchi, #1 buck, CB1138-12 WAD).
@brucelewis10173 жыл бұрын
Will corn mill work like the buffer does
@BubbaRountreeOutdoors3 жыл бұрын
it prolly will! I haven't tried it yet.
@camwinston52483 жыл бұрын
Good video..you sure those new blue hulls are not Cleaver's..? Thanks Wade
@BubbaRountreeOutdoors3 жыл бұрын
I have seen the Cleavers before. But what I have are the Mirage hulls (Rio)
@camwinston52483 жыл бұрын
@@BubbaRountreeOutdoors ten four..cleaver has a mirage as well..and a Beaver Cleaver too if i remember it right..😁😁😁😌😂😌😌😂
@BubbaRountreeOutdoors3 жыл бұрын
@@camwinston5248 that's right!!
@camwinston52483 жыл бұрын
@@BubbaRountreeOutdoors 😁.. a little levity for the day !!!😂😂😁 God bless !! Praise the Lord an pass the ammunition !!
@andersonj1each262 жыл бұрын
Wade you run 27-28 gr of long shot religiously as a long range. I’ve seen loads that run 37-38gr of long shot pursuing 1500-1600 FPS. I know your stover 300 is only a 3” chamber but for a guy who has a 3 1/2” chamber I’ve seen the pressures we’re around 11000. Does that seem about right? I have a load with 38 hrs long shot, in a 3” cheddite hull. FS12 gas seal and milar wrap with 18 31cal pellets. BP original buffer. My gun is an3 1/3 chamber. Looking forward a professional opinion. I know it wouldn’t blow my gun up unless it hits around 55000 psi. Anyways wouldn’t mind your opinion on this. They seem like a wackandstack hammer hammer!
@jacobackley5022 жыл бұрын
I've never found any high velocity loads that pattern worth a damn. Keeping velocities around 1200 have patterned best for me. Buckshot pellets have the aerodynamics of a fat kid so they don't hold supersonic velocities very long, so at long ranges loads starting at 1500 going any faster than loads starting 1200. That's just my philosophy, if I want more powerful loads I use ones with more pellets
@denisdegamon82242 жыл бұрын
No shotgun can handle 55,000 psi. Max SAMMI pressures for shotguns is 11,500 psi. I haven't seen any published loads that are any higher than 11,200 psi. At 55,000 psi your talking high pressure rifle chamber pressures. In a shotgun at 55,000 psi your talking about a bomb.
@andersonj1each262 жыл бұрын
@@denisdegamon8224 no published data but sammi did testing where they reached 55000 psi to intentionally blow up a shotgun. They can handle a lot of pressure. They proved that it takes ALOT of error to explode a shotgun and the published loads are a safety net but you can load them to higher pressures. Your chambering will determine your psi. But sticking to sammi specs is the safest option. You lose hull integrity before you’ll ever hurt your chamber
@denisdegamon82242 жыл бұрын
@@andersonj1each26 Top loads in a 30-06 don't reach but 50,000 psi. SAMMI pressure limits set for a shotgun are 11,500 psi. At what you stated at 55,000 psi is closer to the maximum pressures for magnum rifle cartidges. That is almost 4.5 times the max pressure for shotguns. I never heard of any such testing that a shotgun can handle a 55,000 psi load without destroying a shotgun. Barrel steel in shotguns are no where the thickness of rifle cartridges. If such a test exists, please post it, I am sure everyone would like to see such foolishness. At these pressures many older mitary bolt action rifles would experience catastrophic failure. I do agree that SAMMI specs have a small percentage of fudge factor built in to protect fools. There is alot of very bad information out there on the internet, by self proclaimed experts, but go ahead and believe what you will. Don't kid yourself believing that, it won't end well for you and anyone around you. I would suggest that you call real expert's in any of the major powder companies or even Ballistic Products and see that they say about what would happen at 55,000 psi in any shotgun. They have sophiscated equipment for testing loads. PS: a gun may not blow up on the first round. Maybe even not after multiple rounds. However, there is severe damage being done to a firearm.....it's called metal fatigue. Over time such fatigue can cause a shotgun to blow up with even a standard loading. The military learned this during WW2 with artillery pieces after extensive firings of even standard loads.
@andersonj1each262 жыл бұрын
@@denisdegamon8224 what! Hahaha your funny. I have data that has 61k for pressures in 06. Hell 270 with 60k PUBLISHED. Couple grains over with certain powders and your in 70k. You don’t have to agree with what I posted but facts are facts. Simple google search will prove my comment. Also disprove yours 🤦🏻♂️
@terryjones63152 жыл бұрын
Mr. Wade do your sell your buckshot ?
@silverpiratjonmersalov40543 жыл бұрын
Привет дружище🤝. Вероятно ты забыл меня. Я Геннадий, охотник из России. Можешь мне продать станок мес stilmaster
@BubbaRountreeOutdoors3 жыл бұрын
Hey Gennady! I'm not a MEC dealer.
@Averageeverydayguy11 ай бұрын
What would happen with 12- .30 cal round balls with 33grains of longshot ? Cuz yea I’ve loaded mine hot ! :(