Oh, never expected him to be next. Hopefully the next one is Mewtwo.

I think the gameplay changes are, on the whole, a much more balanced rework. Aesthetically, however, Steve should barely be changed. His whole gimmick animation-wise is that he’s such a player character stand-in that his actions are limited to stuff that only players can do. The only aspect where I’ll agree that this can present problems is with hit detection, but I think the best solution here is to flash his model red, like all mobs do when they take damage, and/or use large and obvious “critical hit” particle effects, like what happens when players attack mobs when falling. Also, I like the idea of dropping the opponent into The End as a Final Smash, but controlling the Ender Dragon seems like a bit too much over-the-top, even for a super attack. I’d suggest that Steve should goad the Ender Dragon into using its Dragon’s Breath attack, such as by gliding around it on an Elytra, or by shooting at it with a bow. Afterward, he dodges the breath by way of an Ender Pearl, leaving the opponents to get caught in the attack on by themselves. This makes it more believable for a player character to catch an opponent by using another mob.

After watching this one through, here's my overall take of this. The majority of of this rework I either like, or can respect even if I'm not too big on a specific ideas. I am a little iffy on the new Neutral and Down Special, but I don't hate them for say. Part of me is feeling that the objects should be tied to the Down Special instead of Neutral Special. The one thing I openly disagree with is changing his appearance. Even if it's just subtle stuff, I prefer his more ridged animations. I wouldn't mind if maybe they pulled some animations from the console ports of the game, like the wave animation for example. But giving him depth and making his animations way more wavy and flabby just looks wrong to me personally.

I think you may be underestimating how cluncky crafting will be in this moveset, honestly unless its more or less instant, considering that you need to either move to the table first or waste time (and materials) summoning the table, i dont think it will ever be worth crafting any of the special items. Even with just refreshing your weapon in the current version, steve is weighing the opportunity cost of crafting vs contining to advantage/juggle/edge guard opponent because the window of opportunities to craft is already low for steve (unless you just lost your stock but that would be impossible to craft in your version) in addition to needing to further select your crafting option it just leaves steve as a open for too long to be worth it imo

Should've named this RECRAFT It instead... Jokes aside, I think that Mining and Placing Blocks should be on the same move slot at least. The way you have it set up, neutral special seems nigh-unusable unless Steve is grounded.

I think a lot of these changes kind of fly in the face of what makes Steve fun. I personally don't think he needs a rework so much as a few measured nerfs (side+b hit grab and end lag changes, fly through blocks at certain percentages, a few damage nerfs on diamond tools). I feel like Armor and Using Items and Items having synergy with blocks feels a little bloated. I'm also fine with mining being different on different stages, but I understand why people aren't. I think stage counterpicks SHOULD be meaningful, so having a few stage/character interactions encourages you to use your bans wisely while opening up new opportunities on certain stages.

As a Steve main I honestly do not like a lot of these changes, but making minecart a hitgrab and having launched opponents break blocks at high percents is really good. I don't think it would be possible to only have blocks be connected to the ground because not all stages have perfectly rigid layouts. I honestly think Steve's moveset is borderline perfect, just needs nerfs.

This sounds like a great rework, I really like the changes Except the final smash. I like the tnt explosions cause it feels like something that steve can actually do in game, while taming the ender dragon isnt something you can really do.

I'm sorry Delzethin, but I have to chime in on something. [Mining] 17:30 - 18:30. This is a bad idea for ANY resource character. Steve's (supposed) flow is: Mine > Get item/equipment > Fight. This nerf to mining will throw that out of wack. Making it so that Steve can't constantly mine is punishing him for getting resources to achieve his gameplan. Steve's already breaking his material to mine so compounding this on top of that is brutal. Not only that but it also doesn't take into account of a player who has ran completely out of resources. If a player is totally dry and they won't be able to mine long they will be forced to fight without mats which puts them at a disadvantage. THEN if they do lose a stock for fighting with little to no mats they are then punished again with the loss of more mats upon KO. How are they suppose to get back in the game. Then the cherry on top. 20:50 ... This goes against your attempt to make Steve's gameplay be 'fight and find openings to mine a little' since if they craft one of the new items the player will be locked out of being able to gain resources. Sorry, but I don't agree with this aspect of rework and I honestly this restriction will work well for this resource character.

regardless of the move set changes I still prefer Steve keep his iconic animations he has in game now. I feel as if the recent hate toward the animations comes form people saying Steve it to much like Minecraft and not like smash... and if that's how you feel that's fine but the animations of Steve have nothing to do with his strength in the meta.

Really, at most I think Steve needs just a few tweaks. Making minecart a hit grab, letting launched opponents break through blocks at high enough percent, and maybe the burst mining from this video are about all I think it would take to balance Steve and make him continue to embody the creativity that he already does so well. Also no more canceling knock back, but that’s obvious.

As a Steve main, I think I vibe with most of these changes. I'd personally keep building mapped to aireal b but keep the drawbacks. It feels more natural than down b.

For what it’s worth, I do think Steve has a solid chance of returning considering Microsoft’s solid relationship with Nintendo. But as you mentioned, Steve really got the short end of the stick being worked on at the height of the pandemic. Also, I appreciate you using other fighting games a point of reference for how overbearing certain characters are compared to Steve. Hopefully the animation changes happen for the sake of clarity.

The thing about powered rails, there’s no iron in the recipe. That’s why it uses gold. Because there’s LITERALLY no iron in the recipe.

How would Kirby's copy ability work here?

24:16 Creeper: My main goal is to blow up!

Honestly out of all the episodes. This one is the only one is hate (I love all the others) . Every times he changes a normal that didn't needed a change. A reference to minecraft was gone. Now before I rage about a few voxels I just want to say I agree with the balance intentions. Not always with the actual changes but nobody is gonna agree 100% of the time. First the animations. No (OK maybe I didn't saw it was just a slight flex. Thought it almost was knees.) Just make better ones no need to change the rig. Biggest offender is tumble animation. They should just make him spin like any other character. Steve is not stranger to being sideways and diagonal in the air. I don't even get sakurai problem with it. The jab is a literal representation of how minecraft fight works. Just swing your sword at each other and walk forward. Now agree it should be nerfed a bit. But only 2 hit combo.? F smash is a reference to charged attacks. Not anymore. Taunts? Bro jumping and punching is waving in minecraft. I dont think a neat animation would pass over a reference. That would be like making mario fall realistic ly or with more flair, while his original taut reference his death animation. Taunts are amazing at putting anything you want without having an effect on the game. And you change that of all things? Crossbow? Not bow? OK I guess. "tap to fire quickly"..... Ok so why not a bow then? Now for the actual balance changes. No point in switching neutral B and down B except making it harder, but asides. Powered minecarf still need gold. It's mostly used and broken as a finisher. It's used really often but Steve players were paying a lot of attention to their gold and redstone for that reason. So the buff you gave home is insane. Same for the block. Now they have 0 use cases outside of blocking the opponent while mining. His combo structure is not the Problème here. The 2 biggest problems with blocs is stalling and stalling in the air. You only addressed on of the 2 and it's not the most important one. If you want to make that mining work you really gotta make it really fast at the start. So there is no use to walling yourself. Because what you just did is making it more necessary to wall yourself for longer. And the amount of stuff you can carry is ridiculously low. Like OK the other stuff I get. But iron? Only 2? And you also made the anvil cost 2? And mining is purely slower? What I'm getting from that is that people will mine for as long but will get less stuff. Wich is a straight nerf but does not adrezes stalling behind a wall. Especially because block don't have any other uses now. Now for the object. Flint and steal make it even better to camp behind walls. Bow will make it more stonks to camp. And the other 2 I guess. I really like the idea of craft able objects tho. Up B just no. I thought you wanted to nerf his recovery? Armors is OK, I guess. Take less damage? Ok. But why? You basicly nerfed all of his combos. The guy literaly just walk forward and get punished less when taking hits. I guess it more like the original game. But I don't think a guy camping behind blocks that sudently walk forward and is straight getting less damage, is a good design either.

I can't imagine anything being "too heavy" for Steve. Man can carry 64 1 meter cubes of gold in one slot of his pocket.

I feel like making the crafting table work like the crafting table and not a smithing table is definitely needed

As a Steve main, I do find it out of place and unfair how Steve can place blocks in midair. I agree that it would be better to need a nearby platform or stage to place a block like in actual Minecraft. And I think the minecart being able to grab shielding opponents is also unfair. Your included change is a great idea! The inclusion of the anvil as quite odd, I think it would be cooler if Steve's down air was a critical sword slash instead! Like Minecraft how you look downwards adjusting your crosshair to land a critical hit as your falling down from a jump. This would help stop Steve mains from spamming d-air the second an opponent is underneath. The anvil as part of the down throw would be fine as it is. I think the elytra should be able to cover more vertical and horizontal distance, at the cost of removing the hit box on startup. I love your idea of being able to craft more than just upgrading your weapons, being able to choose whether to craft weapons or armor is a great idea! Maybe the armor could give Steve a little bit more weight too, for survivability but also being heavier could be use to better juggle Steve to balance it out. Something I wish would've been given to Steve was being able to see your weapons' durability, just using a move that makes Steve equip the weapon could quickly show a durability bar. Either above Steve himself or above the player damage percentage.

12:36 "Powered rails don't use gold anymore" Huh? Why not? I'm not a fan of Steve crafting armour, all tools breaking simultaneously, nor being unable to mine while he has an item crafted. I'm iffy about the crafting wheel in general too, because although it does involve crafting a lot more in his game plan and provides a couple more tools to get creative with, it makes him a lot harder to play too. One of the things I like most about Steve is his ease of use amidst all the complexity. It also isn't super clear how it'd work with Kirby since both crafting and building would be part of his down B

Wasn't expecting the most broken character in Special to be next, but I'm not complaining as Steve/Alex/Zombie/Enderman was by the most toxic fighter in the game, and desperately needed an overhaul. Fortunately, we got the man with the plan himself to come up with a newer take on the Minecraft hero/heroine to hopefully make Steve/Alex more fun, and rewarding to play as, and much less frustrating to play against since you yourself actually did make your own take on what Steve could be like in Smash if he ever did join 4 years ago (it was also coincidentally released on the same month of the year being May)! :D While I do agree that this updated version of Steve would definitely need to be checked multiple times to make absolutely sure it still doesn't make him as broken, or even worse than last time, I think overall, this retool does a much better job of making him feel like he walked right out of his home series while also not infuriating his opponents' players! I loved that you even included the Ender Dragon as his new Last Trump Card especially considering you did in fact originally have that to be Steve's big finisher almost a year-half ago! ^^ I'm really happy to hear that you also made a new poll on Patreon where people can now vote for upcoming Remake It! characters such as either Kirby, or Luigi alongside the existing Challenger Approaching! poll, and I look forward to seeing who the winner is (hopefully the latter since he really needs an overhaul more than the former due to how polarizing he's become over the years in Smash), and I also look forward to next CA! video being Masquernya from the messy, glitchy as hell, clearly not tested Pocket Monster Scarlet & Violet (which is probably next)!

I hope you will remake a Wario’s moveset in the future

Please have the next Patreon poll nominee be Fecto Elfilis from Kirby and the Forgotten Land

This remake is overall very good, but there is one thing that doesn’t sit right; mainly how Mining isn’t possible until you fully expend the object you’ve crafted. I mean, what if you don’t have enough other materials to make the best plays with them? What I’d propose is that the object crafted is mapped to the Shield Special and Mining would still be possible (albeit slower and with only dirt/wood/stone/iron to compensate). Additionally, all objects become locked out of Crafting until you’ve fully used it and there’s even a small cooldown for that specific object when you DO use it, preventing it from being Crafted again immediately. …That said, I could see how this can be a bad thing. Besides, the items could be used with what you’ve got when you use it & you can always…NOT Craft until you’ve got all you need. It’s not perfect, sure, but it doesn’t hurt to think of something else. I’d be okay with either, honestly. [8.5/10]

I think that if Steve gets into the next fighting game and there are more alternate costumes, it would be nice (and frankly expected) for them to have the new default skins as alt costumes, as well as the mobs, two of the classic skins (probably the Scottish ones), and even though it's a stretch, a barebones version of the Steve and Alex skins similar to how they look in Minecraft update trailers :D

I love Steve's current moveset in Super Smash Bros Ultimate. and I don't have a problem with his basic attacks, smash attacks, throws, or specials, but this is a really amazing moveset and I love the stuff that you came up with and that model of Steve looks awesome!!!❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

Yea, Steve could've been great but genuinely I think the main issue with smash is the further down the roster you go the more problematic they become, also the over accurate approach causes the most problematic game design, see sonic, sb4 bayo, meta Knight in brawl and how the opposite is true for characters who have less usable abilities

I do disagree with some of these balance ideas limiting Steve's fighting game style, especially with the blocks though I do prefer it breaking than dropping Steve, but I do agree with what you added and that this would probably be more interesting than previous Steve. Honestly, I don't know how to feel about this moveset because I enjoy the new complexities and the new options, but if we sacrifice the option to be a griefer for what most people want, then you essentially bottleneck people to play correctly. Then again, most people would be happy to see that. Here's an interesting idea though for the blocks, give Steve players the choice to convert the blocks from defensive blockers to traps that Steve would want to hit and be hit by the opponent as it'll spread flames, and drop weak arrows. Another thing too, convert Steve's up taunt to have him face the camera and let the player express themselves that way. That way, it'll leave room for the crouch taunt to be its own unique thing, just like the food eating.

genuine question mr delzethin how much minecraft have you played just out of curiosity

Having your most wanted character become one the most hated characters in smash history is definitely a... strange feeling. But this redesign fixes most of his problems while still feeling fair. And also giving him even more depth than he already has. Also, thank you for updating his UI. That thing was beging for a redesign. I'm a bit mixed on the animation idea though. Its much better version than alot of the other ideas people had, but it kinda weakens the charm the official animations have. And the Final smash kinda feels like a fan animation. The main question is, how is Kirby going to use the Neutral special?

The nerfs to minecart are well-warranted, and I REALLY like the idea of having Steve get tired if he mines too much in one sitting, that diminishing returns thing is brilliant for de-emphasizing camping (along with mining being disabled when you have a crafted object in tow). The flint and steel setting blocks on fire is a neat idea too. I don't like cinematic final smashes, but credit where credit is due, Steve taming the dragon for it is a badass idea.

How can Kirby utilize Steve's NSpecial? Maybe he just gets a randomly selected tool to use if Steve has none and the tool Steve currently has if he has one?

I’m really Digging the Remake moveset for Steve in this (Remake it) *See what I did there? :D* Also Steve’s Final Smash In this Compared to the one officially in Ultimate is Absolute Badas$ & I Love it!

Good thing that you chose to do this next because i have experienced attacks not doing anything to and more toxic Steve players such as fishing rod and minecart cheese, great job

You disliked the original Final Smash, so 0/10. /j But seriously, this was a great video, and a nice re-interpretation of Steve's moveset.

Oh wow, super unexpected. Looking forward to this!

I feel like neutral B should also be building like it is in smash

I thought this was too obvious of a guess, but I'm happy you chose it! Personally, I think a simple yet fairly impactful nerf would be not allowing to place blocks unless they're connected to the stage or other blocks--i.e. unable to place them floating, exactly like in Minecraft. Edit: And you thought the same--excellent job, sir!

I hope we get more of the tier list videos, the last one was interesting

to be perfectly fair to steve, minecraft has some incredibly toxic players all the time, so i feel like steve being toxic is hilarious and true to his game

Here me out, you remade dk's and sonic's movesets what if you did the same to mario and bowser

Idea: The Final Smash changes based on costume. Steve and Alex get the current one, Enderman gets the Ender Dragon, Zombie is a hoard of zombies

Please think about putting The Lamb (Cult of the Lamb) in your patreon poll

How about Neon White (from Neon White game) someday in a future poll

Nice ideas! Reining in his mining speed and the more exploitable aspects of his moveset would go a long way toward making Steve less frustrating. The new Final Smash idea sounds hilarious!

The strange thing about this one is that I can't tell how much worse this makes him. His worst gimmicks have been removed, but his some of his top tier normals aren't really nerfed, there are just trade-offs now. In fact, moves like bair (already the 2nd strongest in the game with diamond) and arguably filt, might have been buffed, and his combo game (at mid level play especially, which is where most people have grievances about him) is possibly entirely trade-off. I do think the changes obviously go a long way in making a better character, and his playstyle moreso is "hit and run" than "run-away" which is a severe plus. I'm not going to be entirely negative, I'd love to see someone makes this. Edit: a qol feature I'd add is allowing more projectiles to damage blocks. Some like shuriken of light just disappear like hitting a wall.

I still hold out hope you'll one day make a moveset for the best Pokemon, Toxtricity.

Ok here me out, what if instead of changing Steve we have Jesse from Minecraft story mode. MC Story mode is basically everything this new Steve is. He's more expressive and doesn't has the advantage of creative mode.

I think Daisy should be next.

Should've had bread for the taunt

I wish they would change Steve like this in an next Smash Bros game, if he is included obviously Also, another DLC character that should be changed is Sora, give the boy his Disney references

"You lose it!" 18:26 The way you said it was really funny!!🤣🤣

how does kirby work

Steve is very broken; thanks for making an alternative to the mess that is his moveset.

I honestly still prefer the rigidness of Steve’s animations

I honestly would change the final smash to be like Pit's. Summoning the Ender Dragon by placing the egg that immediately hatches and hopping aboard it. That and change some of the items he can craft: - Crossbow: Love it - Piston: Defeats the purpose of balancing blocks. Although you can't stack them Steve can still build a wall that traps foes in a toxic contraption. -Flint & Steel: Very improved -TnT: An alright change. I would either get rid of the piston or replace it with an ender pearl/Eye of Ender. The most rarest item you can craft, allowing Steve/Alex to teleport to where they throw it. They only have one to use, so it should be saved for desperate situations.

I'd love to see you do Guardian from Breath of the Wild in the future

Steve's animations being so 1:1 to Minecraft is literally the point.

So I suddenly got the idea of a _second_ Ganondorf rework thingy that makes him specifically resemble his Tears of the Kingdom incarnation (yes, I get that that's a very different Ganondorf than the one that exists in Smash already, but still). Ganondorf is a _beast_ in that game, his moveset has a lot of potential even when compared to _other_ Ganondorfs, and permanent Gloom damage on certain attacks could be a really fun gimmick that forces people to stay on their toes.

Would this change Kirby's copy ability or would it now be like Olimar's copy ability that combines different specials?

I love this! I think it's very important to see what went wrong and use that as a basis for something better. Nintendo almost never reworks characters though, so it probably won't be anything like this if Steve gets into Smash 6. They'll probably fix his bugs and nerf his kit without reworking it.

I Saw A Minecraft Ad While Watching This Video

Steve’s normal move set is VERY CREATIVE, just very toxic

I really like this. Seems like it could make Steve a lot more balanced!

I always wished Steve's Up Smash was the old Minecraft tradition of firing a Bow straight upward; acting like Snake's Up Smash, but launching farther and faster, non-explosive, and could damage himself if he's hit by it. Being more of a tool to more easily snipe airborne opponents with his stubby vertical mobility rather than just being a massive hitbox over him. Great ideas. Before he was in, I also imagined him upgrading weapons and armor sets being a decently big chunk of his playstyle.

I'm pretty fine with your ideas but the problem is : how does it work for kirby? Steve need to use down b to use his neutral b , if kirby copies steve what Will he do and how?

I Like the rework in theory (by that I mean it does sound fine but for the specifics, I can't tell). PS: I hope Kirby gets the side special instead, having just acces to dig is worthless he could use the crafting table too, but that's straying apart from the topic.

ehh idk this just doesn't feel very warranted steve's design is already so good it just needs a couple tweaks here and there and any additions in this moveset don't really add anything just a different take like this 28 minute video could have been five minutes long and you'd miss nothing

with the minecart there is now higher pressure with steve running behind and reusing it again, maybe having an easier time breaking shield

So wait a second. What about Kirby's mining? What purpose does it serve now? Does he automatically craft the item before using it?

Wouldn't this discourage crafting the new items and have more players run away cause they don't want to lose their materials?

Hi, Kirby main here. How will Kirby's Neutral Special work when he swallows Steve? I think everything else about him is pretty good. I just don't get the Neutral Special, and how it effects Kirby. XD

I had the idea of rails staying put indefinitely after Minecart has been used

LUIGI, NEXT!

Sick channel! Can you make a moveset for Lamb (Cult of the Lamb)?

The funny thing is, steve does have a better range of motion in the newer version as Emotes have been introduced

He was right.......we did not expect this

Oh man I had that exact same Final Smash idea for a potential Steve Echo, which seperates the Zombie and Enderman (and 6 more mobs) into their own character slot. I thought of them riding on its back and everything. The gimmick to the echo would be simplying the whole deal, by removing crafting. Probably too ambitious for an Echo, as it would be hard to balance against normal Steve.

I'd personally like to see a remare sora, he doesn't need a rework, but i'm just interested in what one would look like

Could you do a challenger approach on the guy from the music game melatonin, I'm interested to know what his moveset would be like🤩😁

keeping mine craft and place on neutral B could have stayed its more practical that way and Down B really then can be a move you can switch, just feels correct on a controller and how mechanics like that should be handled, but also if this is the case why not put minecart here it seems to be a neccessary set-up for a combo breaker option if we keep its current design but it should break upon being hit

I have a question. Does not being able to mine, still apply to armor? It's a passive buff that deteriorate. Does the neutral special strate up do nothing with armor on?

Getting rid of Steve’s inventory whenever he dies will only force him to camp more, making him more toxic

“they used to call me basher” ahh voice 💀

I hope you consider doing Byleth sometime, I have some ideas for a better moveset for them that isn’t shamelessly promoting the game

Have you considered if this gameplay loop is fun? Or is it just competitive balance for the sake of competitive balance

I wish to see Kirby’s move set will be remake in a future video

As someone who is not a Minecraft player, I love this new moveset (except for the Final Smash).

Genius!

So creative!

Will you do something with link since tears of the kingdom came out?

I would love To see Ness with more of his own attacks

in terms of steve's skins, Delete enderman entirely and put skeleton in his place, because short enderman looks cursed as hell.

i 100% believe steve needs tons of cosmetic touch ups, he ought to look like he does in the trailers and also be animated similarly (for clarity and just for looking cool, like your example) the alternate skins should also be the new default ones (keeping zombie and enderman of course)

While I like Steve in Ultimate, I cannot deny he is currently competitive Smash's worst nightmare right now. I'm really curious to see how this type of moveset plays if they actually do this kind of rework in the next game if he were to return.

Please do Nights next

I agree with you on the animation department. I always envision if Steve gets in the next smash game, he might an animation style more akin the promotional animations and Minecraft Dungeons

stage hazards the character!

Will Luigi be next?