Great video. However, what I am still struggling with is what is the Onyx Boox Tab Ultra C? Is it a Remarkable 2 on steroids or is it a very poor replacement for an iPad Pro or Android tablet like the Galaxy Tab S? If writing on the device feels like writing on glass, and if the screen isn’t as good as the remarkable or the iPad from what I can see, then why on earth would anyone buy this device? It costs as much as an iPad, yet does nothing as well as an iPad. So it would seem that if I want an E-Tablet to be a paper replacement then I buy the Remarkable 2, if I need a reading device then I get the Amazon Kindle (Scribe), and if I want a tablet that does everything, then I buy an iPad or Android tablet like the Samsung Tab S. So what is the Onyx Book Ultra Tab C and who should buy one?

Can you show more third party apps on Ultra tab C? Like typing in Notion, Obsidian or academy apps like Zotero for paper reading. Thanks

While the boox has amazing technology the writing feel of the remarkable is just amazing. Honestly even better than paper for me.

I've had the Remarkable for a few years now. It's still like new, and build quality held up. Remarkable is a XXI replacement for your paper notebook. It's not trying to be a PDA. It's for reading, writing, and sketching, and the whole infrastructure supports that. Which gives you uncluttered experience and long battery. The two drawbacks it has: no backlight and no physical "fwd" button for when my hands are wet and dirty. The Onyx (which I also have) is a PDA. You can turn it into a mobile office if you want, but then you'll find that your smart phone still does that better, and that it is too big to be always with you. I already have a smart phone and a laptop.

I appreciate this video because its one of the few I've seen pitting the Ultra C against a B&W e-ink tablet.

Thank you for this video. No nonsense , straight to the point!

Having started it on onyx, since switching to a remarkable2 I never looked back. For the writing experience, it's not even a competition. The "you can do everything" might stand. But it's only kinda true. Android Applications rarely work as well as you'd expect. Which was fine in my case, I wanted to take notes. And the onyx note app is great. But the outdated android version, the horrendous security and support track record and finally there behind the scenes "calling home to China" just didn't sit right with me. The onyx I used was an excellent introduction into eInk tablet, but the OG just can't be beat, yet. The subscription is not needed for synchronization anymore. So that argument doesn't really stand anymore....

I want a 13.3 screen, for reading journals, as they cannot fit properly in smaller screens. What are mu choices? Ive only seen the Lumi2 and the TabX. I want something like this Tab Ultra C, but with 13.3...

Can you show the boox one outside in shorts, artificial light hardly do justice to eink. Will it still be that grey outside!?

"It wouldn't be a fair comparison unless we ignore everything the Remarkable can't do"

The pencil on the RM2 is amazing. I'd like to see that on the Boox. Fortunately, that would just be a software upgrade. Since Onyx is always working on the software, that might indeed be in the works.

I do love my rM1, never bought the 2nd one. It does exactly what I want from it.

I like to read books from all sources. I have a Scribe and a Kobo Elipsa 2e. The Boox Tablet is awesome in order to have all the reading apps for the devices that I don’t care to have (Nook), the ones I already have, and others like Neo, which I didn’t even know about.

Is the contrast on the reMarkable 2 really as much better as it looks here? Is it generally better than most e-readers in terms of display contrast?

Hello i loved the video, i have a question, if you use the pen that comes with the ultra, the felling of the writting gets better ? Works bettrr than the one you use? Regards

Great video, first 3.4 mins note taking, and handwriting remarkable is superior.

How to lock it with edu and book apps, admin 30 in a classroom and share them with 1200 in a school? They will be nice, a lot less distractions for students.

Great comparison review. True, Onyx Boox Tab Ultra C is a Bigme boy vs Remarkable 2, pun intended :) Keep posting.

if renarkable decides to add a couple features it will be the perfect choice for someone who only wants to replace paper. It is not a tablet and shouldn't be judged as one. Is a note-taking instrument and nothing more. I am writing on paper (a lot) for my job all day long, it would perfect to replace and eventually file my hand written notes. I do not need a google play to buzz me with updates, but I want a free of charge mailing service.

Honestly, I really hope remarkable does not succumb to the pressure and go on with android for next iterations. I appreciate and consider precious any home-grown attempt. Maybe I'm with the minority, but I actually prefer not having features over having mediocre experiences (especially ones that fit better on other devices). Other than book/comic reading, note taking and forwarding the sketching capabilities for use as a presentation canvas, I can't think of anything else the current e-ink technologies would provide a better experience for. I'm don't have a Remarlable (just a kindle paperwhite), and I don't consider it (the Remarkable 2) perfect either. I woule like more note-taking features like the shapes you mentioned for example, and possibly a color screen for comics (even though I still feel there is room for book-oriented devices without color with the current status of color screens). Funnily enough, I don't find frontlight to be that important. I don't really use it with my Paperwhite, even though I'm a heavy night reader. I find it less exhausting for my eyes to have ambient light comming from a source behind me than staring at one well lit screen for a long time. My ideal device would have it though, just for the places where such light is not available. Meh sorry for the long comment. Even though I love android, I have many feelings about android e-ink devices...

Has anyone tried using accounting software like sage or Xero on these? I would be really interested in the experience, that is in advance.

Possible to do a comparison between Tab Ultra C and Inknote?

I think it’s a fair point to say you can turn off notifications or uninstall apps and so on if you want to be left alone. But I can still see why someone would buy a remarkable now. It has that great writing feel (and I’ve been writing on my iPad recently so I would really like that grippy feel), it doesn’t rely on Android in the same way, and it’s probably going to be more reliable for a longer time as a result. And if you’re just writing with it mostly, then I don’t think the lack of a backlight will be a huge issue. As long as you have some light, I think you can write ok. Reading is the problem, but it’s likely that most people buy it just to write on anyway.

Sooo it looks that rmkb 3 will come with improvements that i need... Then i will think about buying it... I just need a device that gets rid of all the paper... Rmkb pay attention to our needs and the market will be yours... Boox is almost there...and i am preparing some of my money to buy an eink device...

Remarkable is king IMO I wanted an e-notebook, and thats it. I have a tablet, if I want to do tablet things, I would use that. I will say though, the monthly subscription thing is BS and I'm glad I brought it before that was a thing...

Love your videos ! What do you think would be good for a child's first device for books and drawing. I like the limited functionality of the Remarkable but I'm worried that she might get bored of black and white children's books.

I still LOVE MY REMARKABLE… I use it to read and take notes. It’s my favorite. I use an ipad for everything else.

The argument that you can turn off wifi/updates etc that will distract you doesn't work for me personally though - I could do that with a laptop or ipad or my phone - if im looking for an e-ink notetaking device that i can work with for hours then to me I want a tool to keep me on track - that said the pricepoint for the remarkable is still too to jump in

the remarkable has one major software flaw that is not fixed since 4 years. it doesn't support Bookmarks - not even the integrated ones - in PDF documents, so it's impossible to navigate big PDF effectively. and so it was useless for me, and i had to return it.

Great review. This is exactly what I needed to know. Won’t be buying a remarkable now.

The only thing onyx misses are two physical keys which are beneficial for speed reading

IPAd Is always needed. Now as an extra I would for Onyx since I can use Noteshelf 3 and Have Ink screen for better feel than IPad for writing and still have color and recordings Which Is a must For note taking.

Thx

2:33 "its almost like your writing on paper" what? Is that not *exactly* what would you would want?

*_Can You Compare The Remarkable Againts A Glass Of Water With It's Feature Lol._*

One other thing I wish ReMarkable did was run effin' books. I want to read more and it really just doesn't do 'that' in a realistically usable way...

I would never pay to export my own data from my own device. Hey also the keyboard on the ReMarkable is much much better than boox as it can be folded back and carried without damaging the keys. Wow what a review, this was exceptional, thank you.

It's funny how the very moment you said "It's distraction-free", a popup showed up on the RM2 telling you to restart the device... :)

Honestly, you said the boox is better many times but at the end of the day, this is not a tablet replacement. ReMarkable gives a person a digital writing experience similar to paper and pencil. It is overpriced for sure. But the 1 million+ people who bought it, did so for that feeling and I do not know anyone who regrets it. I will not buy either for now. The boox is not going to give me the writing experience I desire. The ReMarkable does, but I can't get around the monthly fee to convert to normal text. It's not an expensive monthly cost but to even ask is an insult for such a feature.

So the Onyx Ultra with the dark concrete ‘gray screen’, the ‘unrealistic pencil’, and the horrible ‘slippery slidey’ writing experience, ‘steamrolls over’ the Remarkable. Thanks for the review- I’m definitely going to get a Remarkable 2 now!

we want Onyx and Remarkable to sell their unit in India

Umm they changed connect and you don't need to pay for those features anymore. Back in November.

So the fact that Onyx has an ultrafast speed mode makes it unfair to compare because the Remarkable does not have it? I would call thah an advantage of the Onyx ;)

🙂I choose ultra c. Only because it support chinese. I hope future remarkable can support more languages

Honestly, I really WISH I could like reMarkable, but their company policy of you actually needing to pay them in order to mail your own files from your own device? Nah, I simply can't stand that. Not to mention how they sell the whole package individually and you end up spending like another 160 euro for a keyboard... Or the fact that the eraser of the "improved" pen doesn't come as standard once you pay for the standard pen (80 euro). You need an additional 50 euro on top of that. So we're looking at a whopping 650euro (~$700) for technology that is essentially wayyy outdated, technology before the pandemic.

timestamps? writing noise comparison? ...

Would somebody give me some reasons why would i buy this over a laptop? I'm trying to convince my parents to buy me but they want me to buy a laptop

"If I want a circle" - Makes an oval. 😏

Bought Tab Ultra C Pro . Nothing is Pro about this thing. Writing experience is VERY BAD. Noteshelf 3 on Ipad is years a head ; better response , much better letancy , much better accuracy , much much better app. I use sensetivity on , 0.7 thicknes , fountain pen on the noteshelf 3 on my Ipad as a normal handwriting and the results are much more precise and easier to write and much better print results then the Boox. You tube Vlogers don't tell you the all truth. The E ink devices sucks for writing. I was a fool to buy it. TRY BEFORE YOU BUY - BOTH IPAD PEN ON NOTESHELF 3 AND E- INK DEVICE AND SEE FOR YOUSELF !!!

Still considering RM. I want an electronic paper and notebook replacement. Amazing that it has 4-year old technology, yet still no modern one seems to give the same feel. A white screen vs. a grey one. No brainer. Paper is white.This idea that it has no backlight is a strawman. I cannot write on paper without turning on a light at night. What is the big deal? Besides I want simplicity. I have an iPad and don't want another one. The Ultra C is total overkill, with an inferior writing experience, and inferior iPad experience.

It all comes down to eyes protection. If you want to protect your eyes when reading, buy an E-ink tab. The extra features are a plus. You can’t compare E-ink tabs to LCD tabs. Regarding the comparison in the video, if you write and sketch a lot, buy the remarkable. If you mostly read and watch stuff, buy the boox ultra tab. Period.

Comparing the ultra C without front lighting, which makes the screen white in the same ballpark, is ridiculous.

Funny how the white display on RM2 makes every good thing on Onyx kinda obsolete.

SHOW ME HOW BOOX ACTUALLY SUPPORTS CUTOM TEMPLATES IN NATIVE FORMAT, not some limited pdf dealio!!!!!!

You dont buy an e-ink device to use as a tablet,

May be we need to call it "Remarkably STUPID"