Remington Model 1917 Enfield

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hickok45

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11 жыл бұрын

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@hickok45
@hickok45 11 жыл бұрын
I'm originally a Kentuckian. I grew up hearing people make jokes about Tennesseans, so when I moved down here I got to start reversing the jokes. :-)
@zachreade88
@zachreade88 4 жыл бұрын
Try holding the bolt and shooting with the middle finger and don't pull the rifle down when you work the bolt.
@zachreade88
@zachreade88 4 жыл бұрын
I own one.
@empireoflizards
@empireoflizards 3 жыл бұрын
A little humor is always fun! At the end of the day, we are all just Americans.
@CrotalusKid
@CrotalusKid 6 ай бұрын
​@@zachreade88 Nobody cares
@3.2Carrera
@3.2Carrera 9 жыл бұрын
When I was a kid I remember these being so plentiful and so cheap (along with Springfields). I really like the M1917 a lot. A real battle rifle with great sites. Great ergo's and a tack driver. A bit heavier than the Springfield so less punishing at the range.
@scuffer34
@scuffer34 11 жыл бұрын
My grandad used a P14 in WWII. He was issued it as he was a territorially. He preferred it over the SMLE because of the sights, and never wanted to give it up. Great video - it brought back some good memories of my grandad's stories. Thank you for posting it.
@AslansMane88
@AslansMane88 8 жыл бұрын
I used to play with one of these when I was eight. Action was removed, and I never knew I had a classic.
@badweetabix
@badweetabix 7 жыл бұрын
It's popularly referred to as the American Enfield. One benefit of switching to the .30-06 was it made it easier to load from a stripper clip than the original P14 chambered in .303 British. The .30-06 just slides off the stripper clip and into the magazine easier. Feeding was also more reliable with the .30-06 because the rimmed .303 could cause rim-lock.
@kennethhamby9811
@kennethhamby9811 2 жыл бұрын
Also you can load more rds, a plus in a bolt battle rifle. Stripper holds 5, you can put one more on top , then depress the six down, drop one in the chamber, while closing the bolt giving you 7 shots, many Germans learned a hard lessen from the model of 1917, after counting 5 shots and poking their heads up.
@jbloun911
@jbloun911 2 жыл бұрын
Better cartridge and American peep sites
@CrotalusKid
@CrotalusKid 6 ай бұрын
​@@kennethhamby9811 Nobody counted shots (or even could) from a single rifle in trench warfare. Nice story, but it is only that.
@hickok45
@hickok45 11 жыл бұрын
You can Google up some information on it, but I think the Eddystone plant, which made so many of these rifles, was actually a subsidiary of Remington, more or less.
@SamuelSullivan-uu3ro
@SamuelSullivan-uu3ro Ай бұрын
Still here, ten years later. I have a 1918 eddystone Enfield that my dad and uncle sporterized back in the 80s. Her name is Eunice. I've gotten a deer pretty much every other year since I was sixteen with her. Re Barrelled, two stage trigger, a sporter stock, and it's pillared and bedded with a free floating barrel. They put a side mount scope on it, and a weaver k4. We don't get a lot of long shots in western WA, so we don't need a lot of scope. The weight of the rifle helps with stability for medium range shots with lots of underbrush and large trees. The Enfield bolt is famous for being fast and smooth for a follow up shot, in case I hit a large tree. 🤣 I have that same limb saver too.
@gordo92943
@gordo92943 10 жыл бұрын
I enjoy all of his shooting videos, down to earth, explains in layman's terms, laid back dude. Thanks. Doesn't try to act like he is an expert on every rifle, shares what he knows.
@G56AG
@G56AG 9 жыл бұрын
On the TV show Shooting USA they interviewed Sgt York's son, he was very specific that his dad didn't like the peep sights and he got and used the 1903 Springfield, and that was the rifle he used in the incident that won him the Medal of Honor. He was very specific that his dad always told everyone he used the 1903 Springfield that day. I don't have the url but that video is available online. We can't ask Sgt York himself, but the next best is is son, and he is positive about that. If you had a guy in your platoon or company in WW1 that was an exceptional rifle shot, and he wanted a Springfield, I think you would make sure he got what he wanted.
@Mahukaawenui
@Mahukaawenui 3 жыл бұрын
Didn't he round up the krouts with his 1911 anyways?
@G56AG
@G56AG 3 жыл бұрын
@@Mahukaawenui As the story has been told, he was armed with a Luger pistol which he took off a German. Regular US infantry troops weren't issued a pistol.
@samhunt9308
@samhunt9308 8 жыл бұрын
Sgt. York's model 1917 is on display at University of Tennessee. At least I hope it still is, might be a gun free zone now.
@williamcrowley4018
@williamcrowley4018 5 жыл бұрын
My pup is clean
@MaxwellBenson80
@MaxwellBenson80 5 жыл бұрын
It's high capacity. Probably banned.
@sawyermounce1927
@sawyermounce1927 5 жыл бұрын
@@williamcrowley4018 what kind of dog do you have
@tallen4520
@tallen4520 4 жыл бұрын
I thought York used '03 Springfield?
@mauser2134
@mauser2134 4 жыл бұрын
@@tallen4520 no they missed that in the old movie. he used an m1917
@craigcolavito5606
@craigcolavito5606 7 жыл бұрын
This needs a Chapter 2 and a woods walk. What an amazing Service Rifle!
@williamtracy4453
@williamtracy4453 8 жыл бұрын
Hickok I'm sure you know this but if you had use the lift sight with the peep all the way down you probably have hit the target everytime. The fixed battle sight was set for 450 yards.
@stuart9534803
@stuart9534803 11 жыл бұрын
I always thought those were the most beautiful battle rifle ever issued.
@jimbob465
@jimbob465 2 ай бұрын
I'd hate to see your wife...
@BlueDragon7511
@BlueDragon7511 6 жыл бұрын
I just bought mine from Cabela's for $740. Though mine came from Eddystone, with lots of markings. And the end of the barrel shows 7-18.
@BelenusValikonis
@BelenusValikonis 3 жыл бұрын
I inherited one of these from my papaw when I was about 15. It's still my favorite thing to target shoot and hunt with a decade later.
@spencerizback
@spencerizback 11 жыл бұрын
been watching your videos since day one, like 5 years ago. I still NEVER get sick of your videos. Thank you for providing the firearm world with such quality videos. Spencer V
@nedyarbnexus9460
@nedyarbnexus9460 7 жыл бұрын
greatest rifle of ww1 no-one barely knows exists.
@MaxwellBenson80
@MaxwellBenson80 5 жыл бұрын
I had no idea it existed. My local antique firearms shop got one in and after talking about it for awhile, I bought it. No regrets about that purchase. It's wicked accurate, and has awesome sights. I want a 1903 next.
@tallen4520
@tallen4520 4 жыл бұрын
@@MaxwellBenson80 They can be rechamberd for belted magnums, but remember that it doesn't have the safety lug the '98 Mausers have (unless you count the bolt handle).
@104thDIVTimberwolf
@104thDIVTimberwolf 4 жыл бұрын
...and yet it was more common than any weapon other than the G98 or possibly the LeBelle.
@JnJTrueOutdoorAdventures
@JnJTrueOutdoorAdventures 8 жыл бұрын
Appreciate the video on the 1917 and the history of it. I just got back from my local gun shop this afternoon after putting a 1917 Eddystone 30-06 in layaway. It is all original, except sling, and the only thing that I can tell is missing is the front barrel band split sling swivel. I believe this one has a 5 grove barrel, didn't have a my barrel light to see very well but the rifling look very good and clean. It is a original blue, some wore, and not the parkerized versions that I have heard about. The stock is in very good condition, yes it has some marks (scratches) and I did notice that the top handguard had a crack but someone did a good job of repairing it using pins. I count myself lucky cause I got the rifle for $400 tax and all. This will go good with my old war rifle collection. I have a Russian Mosin Nagant, 8x57 K98 Mauser, 7x57 Bruno VZ24 Mauser, 303 No. 4 MK1, a 7.7 Arisaka 99 (bring back) and a 7.35 Italian Carcano. I have all the bayonets for these rifles except for the VZ24 and the Carcano. Now I will have to find one for the 1917!! Again thanks for the video and keep up with all the good videos on your channel.
@MaxwellBenson80
@MaxwellBenson80 5 жыл бұрын
Sounds like an awesome collection! I have a 1917 , mosin nagant, m1 carbine, m1 garand, lee enfield no5 mk1, Lee enfield no4 mk2. Those old war guns are great fun to shoot. I'd like a k98 and 1903. How do you like your k98?
@hermanelam8666
@hermanelam8666 4 жыл бұрын
Okay,okay no need to bragman
@grahambawden4060
@grahambawden4060 6 жыл бұрын
Hi, I have a Winchester Model of 1917 made in May 1918 and later re-barrelled in .308 Win by Tom Collins. It is a sweet shooter with the only real problem being the shorter cartridge in the unaltered magazine. I reload my own ammunition for it and always enjoy taking it to the range. Love the videos and watch them all over the pond here in the UK.
@jcarry5214
@jcarry5214 5 жыл бұрын
I hunted with a sporterized one, and it was good fun to handle in the woods. Sights were the best part. It was my first rifle experience, period, but I could hit milk jugs standing at 150 with that long sight axis and big FOV. Every part of it takes getting used to but it's worth it. He mentions the weird bolt, which it is. I'd never heard of a 2 stage trigger so I thought it was busted, but it's so good. Even lightened the recoil was manageable for a kid, it pushed you straight back and the comb is so low you'll never hit your cheek anyway. It's the definition of quirky but you'll never have more fun plinking an '06.
@dbmail545
@dbmail545 10 жыл бұрын
My granddad carried one of those in France. Traded it for an '03 because it was lighter, but hated the sights on the '03
@bluesrocker91
@bluesrocker91 7 жыл бұрын
These were issued to British Home Guard units in WW2. Still quite a few deactivated ones around in the UK.
@garystrout5251
@garystrout5251 6 жыл бұрын
I am a new subscriber but have been watching your you tube posts for a long time. I appreciate that you, unlike some on you tube, have a very good and vast knowledge of firearms. I like the way you present the information and especially watching you shoot. I especially like that it is a family friendly channel. No swearing or use of profane language, just good common sense. All in all I think yours is probably the best you tube channel going. Gary from Kansas.
@boblittlejohn
@boblittlejohn 11 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much Mr. Hickok45 for all your dedication and love and respect for this country and where it came from!!!
@hickok45
@hickok45 11 жыл бұрын
Yeah, the A3 is maybe the ultimate military bolt gun, as it has the peep sight. Much later vintage than this 1917 or the '03 on the table but great shooters.
@TechTwerpII
@TechTwerpII 10 жыл бұрын
The Model 1917 bayonet was copied from the British Pattern 1907 bayonet used on the British Army Short Magazine Lee Enfield rifle No.1 MkIII of 1907. These bayonets had 17 inch blades and were made by Winchester, Remington and Eddystone. The M 1917 also fit the U.S. WW1 trench shotguns which in turn served in WW2, Korea and Vietnam. The weapon served more than five decades until replaced by shorter designs for the American combat shotguns circa 1969-1970.
@t9outdoors984
@t9outdoors984 5 жыл бұрын
love the show i have a enfield 1917 at some point it has been completely restored powder coated and re-bored to a 300 win mag its gorgeous and love knowing the history behind it. it has stamps on it still but the rear sight aperture had been removed and has a scope mounted now and i use it for hunting every year. keep up the good work. would go shooting with you anytime bud.
@Rlyeh_The_Dead
@Rlyeh_The_Dead Жыл бұрын
I looked up this video because I inherited my Great-grandfather's Enfield 1917. I never knew it had such an interesting history. This is definitely a "keep forever" kind of gun
@jasonsteiner57
@jasonsteiner57 7 жыл бұрын
when he said "...seen a guy carrying it around. and I beat him up and took it.." I imagined hickock beating up a British Royal Guard
@buzzkill1964
@buzzkill1964 7 жыл бұрын
jasonsteiner57 not with/for a 1917 in 30-06
@stephanl1983
@stephanl1983 6 жыл бұрын
They've send a lot of them to Britain in 1940, tomarm the Homeguard Witz mit after Dunkirk. Also they have a lot of P14 in .303, the P17 where Mark es with a rein of Red colour around the frontstock and the barrel, so they wouldn't use the Wong ammo in their Gun!
@biteycat
@biteycat 5 жыл бұрын
This would have been the "Dads Army" rifle then!
@MarksmanTV
@MarksmanTV 10 жыл бұрын
Hickok York
@kennebecsmitty
@kennebecsmitty 9 жыл бұрын
I had an Eddystone Enfield years back,all original,it was a pretty good shooter!
@HK-qj4im
@HK-qj4im 3 жыл бұрын
My 1917 is one of the most accurate military rifles I have. I think mine was returned from the British and had the muzzle counter bored 3-4 inches. The troops probably wore out the muzzle crown by cleaning with segmented cleaning rods.
@lthbxfrostyinfidel
@lthbxfrostyinfidel 9 жыл бұрын
I'm thinking about picking one of these up. Great video, hope to see a chapter 2 someday.
@hickok45
@hickok45 11 жыл бұрын
Rifles like this are priced based on a number of factors: condition, "correctness," in terms of parts, manufacture, age, who's selling it, etc. You could probably pay anywhere from $500.00 to thousands, depending on condition.
@brendanclark3743
@brendanclark3743 Жыл бұрын
I just picked one up for a 500 in this lovely market.
@homerpimpson7169
@homerpimpson7169 8 ай бұрын
​@@brendanclark3743found one for 180 at a small pawnshop
@F4Wildcat
@F4Wildcat 11 жыл бұрын
Same here my friend! My M1917 is made in september 1918, fully origenal matched! What a beautifull rifle.
@royahold1966
@royahold1966 11 жыл бұрын
I learn something new every time I watch a Hickok video. I can almost count to 19+1 after that CZ duty video... Great channel.
@mdleather4ever
@mdleather4ever 11 жыл бұрын
LOVE the 1917! My favorite rifle and best shooter, and I think it's every bit as sexy as the 03.
@tentativefawn7455
@tentativefawn7455 9 жыл бұрын
The m1903 is sexier, but the 1917 is a workhorse.
@makotoyuki2199
@makotoyuki2199 5 жыл бұрын
M1903 looks ugly to me. At least the A1 and A2
@jurajokasa834
@jurajokasa834 3 жыл бұрын
But can you make 1903 chambering in 577 trex? No ...1917 can be its strong built reciever
@104thDIVTimberwolf
@104thDIVTimberwolf 4 жыл бұрын
There were 7 times as many 1917s made than 1903s through the end of WW I. The '03 was officially the primary rifle, but the Enfield was much more common through about 1921.
@research1234
@research1234 11 жыл бұрын
Thanks Hickock, another informative and enjoyable video, and a special thanks for the constant reminder...life IS good!
@knoxi82
@knoxi82 11 жыл бұрын
Love watching your videos Hickok, all the way over here in Northern Ireland. It helps ease the pain of not being allowed to own any of that stuff over here!
@richardnajjar2202
@richardnajjar2202 8 жыл бұрын
I too happen to have a U.S. Model 1917. I researched that just under 2.4 million were made in under two years by Remington UMC, Remington Arms Company, and Winchester Repeating Arms. The British contract for 1.75 million Pattern 14 rifles had just been completed a couple of months before the U.S. contract commenced with changes in caliber, bolt face and sights. Interestingly, Remington Arms had also been manufacturing Mosin-Nagant Model 91 service rifles for Imperial Russia until Czar Nicolas II was overthrown. About 2 million of those rifles had already been produced by Remington and New England Westinghouse. Most of them were taken over by the U.S. government and redesignated U.S. Model 1916 Service Rifle 7.62mm. Finally, untold tons of ammunition was made for our British and French allies, as well as bayonets, swords, and other implements of war. These substitute models would find their way into our nation's war reserve, primarily stocking the armories of the National Guard, while Model 1903s continued as the standard rifle of the Regular Army, Navy and Marines. When World War II came about, the U.S. Army had already equipped the Philippine Scouts with some 200,000 Model 1917s, as well as BARs, Thompsons, crew served machine guns and other ordnance. Americans in the Philippines were similarly armed and included '03s and some M1 Garands. In the spring of 1942, after a successful Japanese invasion of the Philippines, most of these small arms disappeared into the high mountain jungles of Leyte, Mindanao and a hundred other islands of the Philippines in the hands of Filipino and American resistance forces. Half a world away, other Model 1917s were used to arm Free French Forces in exile fighting in North Africa, Sicily, Italy and ultimately France, and more Model 1917s were used to arm Nationalist Chinese composite divisions under U.S. and British command in Burma, Thailand and southern China. Finally, there were Model 1917s in the U.S. in the hands of reserve forces and in the hands of War Department and Navy Department personnel guarding factories and shipyards.
@jakebrowncollection1772
@jakebrowncollection1772 8 жыл бұрын
Also the US army during the great war were equipped with 30-06 versions of the lee enfield no1 mk3
@richardnajjar2202
@richardnajjar2202 8 жыл бұрын
+jake brown ~~ Jake, I researched the possibility of No. 1, Mk. III Enfield service rifles chambered in the US M1 ball round and could not find any material on the subject. Perhaps you are confusing such a rifle with the .30-06 (M1 ball) chambered Model 1917 which was derived from the British designed/US manufactured Pattern 14 chambered in .303 British. Both were referred to as "Enfields." Except for the bolt faces, bore, sights and markings, the two are identical. The US Model 1917 was an expedient solution to find and produce a more "production friendly" service rifle to supplement the more difficult to produce US Model 1903 service rifle.
@shotgunsteve93
@shotgunsteve93 8 жыл бұрын
+jake brown No they weren't. No1 mk3 rifles were never converted to .30-06 during WWI for the US Army.
@jakebrowncollection1772
@jakebrowncollection1772 8 жыл бұрын
My mistake with the rechambering but I've rechecked my source I'll read the segment "shortages of the 30-06 ammunition resulted in many american units being supplied with SMLEs".
@shotgunsteve93
@shotgunsteve93 8 жыл бұрын
+jake brown what is your source? I've never read anything about a shortage of ammunition during the war. Bruce Canfield states in his book "US Infantry Weapons of the First World War" that SMLE rifles were used in limited numbers for training purposes. He also states that only 6 American divisions were lent SMLE rifles during 1918 for combat use.
@blackravens5
@blackravens5 7 жыл бұрын
My great grandfather had one in WW1 and admittedly I don't know too much of him or this rifle (hence why I'm watching the video). I just inherited it from my grandfather and can't wait to clean it up and take it to the range. Thanks for all in info!
@TracyLoop
@TracyLoop 6 жыл бұрын
I glanced down at the Publish date on this. It was put out on My Birthday in 2013. I watched it on 12-3-2017. Thank you for your Videos.
@giff74
@giff74 11 жыл бұрын
I always enjoy when you involve the history of the firearms you are featuring. Keep up the great work!
@VertexHero
@VertexHero 11 жыл бұрын
Oh man I want a Model 1917 so bad now.
@dtschirh
@dtschirh 11 жыл бұрын
Couple of things to note about the US 1917. They were used sparingly in WW2. After discontinued use by the Military, the armory sold they domestically. Many were modified for hunting purposes "sporterized". My Dad bought one in the 60s and I still use it today. It's a very reliable rilfe.
@dwalker1999
@dwalker1999 Жыл бұрын
Really enjoy the history lessons Hickok45.
@larrylopez2479
@larrylopez2479 7 жыл бұрын
Enfield m1917 is highly desirable.
@Deweyfd13
@Deweyfd13 8 жыл бұрын
Both awesome rifles! I have one of both!
@rssvss
@rssvss 11 жыл бұрын
Never fail to learn something from your videos, that is greatly appreciated.
@TacticalXRays
@TacticalXRays 11 жыл бұрын
oh, the sound, the recoil, the weight, the materials used...what an awesome piece of history.
@Zeamus634
@Zeamus634 6 жыл бұрын
That rifle is 100 years old and I think I'd still prefer it to modern day ones.
@BasBleu02
@BasBleu02 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks for another great history lesson!
@johnrunton2626
@johnrunton2626 4 ай бұрын
I had a sporterized 1917 Enfield that I stupidly traded away. It was a sweet shooter. I wish I still had it.
@vinnybob412
@vinnybob412 11 жыл бұрын
Hickok is the man. his comments are priceless
@Militiaman71
@Militiaman71 11 жыл бұрын
My Grandfather carried the Enfield 17 in WWI. Hope to find one for a fair price one day.
@hickok45
@hickok45 11 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I didn't think of it, but my Garand bayonet should fit on it. The Garand bayonet is just a shortened version of the WWI bayonet, I believe.
@rogerd777
@rogerd777 5 ай бұрын
It does not. They made a different bayonet called the M1917 bayonet that fit the M1917 rifle and also M97 and M12 trench shotguns, both Winchester pump action shotguns. It would have been nice if there were interchangeable bayonets, but what do you expect from the government?
@johnkeagy5971
@johnkeagy5971 4 ай бұрын
My Garand bayonet fits both my Garand and my 03A3
@rogerd777
@rogerd777 4 ай бұрын
@@johnkeagy5971 yes, but not the M1917 Enfield
@johnkeagy5971
@johnkeagy5971 4 ай бұрын
That's correct. Not the 1917.
@adisupastar
@adisupastar 11 жыл бұрын
I picked one of the M1917's on vacation in a pawn shop last year. They though it was just a really old hunting rifle, but I knew better and had to have it! It took a lot of restoring on my part, but its a gun that helped defend and keep our freedoms we enjoy today. Thanks for the video, great job!
@andyebbers8382
@andyebbers8382 7 жыл бұрын
great review, as usual. I have one of these and was going to sell it to buy an AR15, but it is just too cool and so much fun to shoot!!! Thanks!!!
@aidenbinns4714
@aidenbinns4714 7 жыл бұрын
now 100 year's old
@derekv1183
@derekv1183 7 жыл бұрын
Trevor Phillips how's the Business Trev? TPI doing good?
@aidenbinns4714
@aidenbinns4714 7 жыл бұрын
Nightlife_Legend Derek Villaruz Yep the business is going good.
@elliottdubose5074
@elliottdubose5074 8 жыл бұрын
I own a prestine Model of 1917 and a 1903. I find the model of 1917 a better rifle. To me it is more accurate on a consistent basis. It has been my deer rifle for awhile.
@MrSF0RZA
@MrSF0RZA 11 жыл бұрын
love these history lessons, please keep them coming.
@Z0mb3hHunt3r
@Z0mb3hHunt3r 11 жыл бұрын
There has been a highly customized version of this model (The 1917 Enfield) in the local gunsmith's shop. It shares the same action, Except the stock has been sporterized for 1000 yard target shooting, it has 1000 yard target sights, and has been chambered in .300 Winchester Magnum. He wants 1,500 for it. It has been done very well though. They are extremely neat rifles.
@knucklehead0202
@knucklehead0202 10 жыл бұрын
lol, I was also gonna point out the 6 round thing and was counting the first couple times you loaded it. didn't feel it need be said but probably should really. good job pointing that out.
@heckler3119
@heckler3119 8 жыл бұрын
What about doing the P14 Enfield? Considering the M17 is practically the 30-06 version of it anyhow. Great review btw
@The20thCenturyLimited
@The20thCenturyLimited 3 жыл бұрын
Idk what you decided to get but 30-06 is (well at least was) more easier to get ahold of compared to .303 british
@mikeadrover5173
@mikeadrover5173 11 жыл бұрын
I just love coming home from a hard-day at work and watching your videos with a cold beer. It’s my downtime; I check email and go right to KZfaq and your site first. I enjoy history, and firearms and so much more. Your site is just not Bang-Bang-Bang; it’s informative and just plain relaxing and fun. It has to be the natural ability to educate! As always, thanks’ for taking the time to make this video! And I support this site. ~M~
@RobertBrumley60
@RobertBrumley60 10 жыл бұрын
I've always loved the 30.06 round. My dad had a 30.06 bolt action that held 5 rounds and made by some company I've never heard of called Santa Fe arms in Southern California. He's been past away for a few years, and we don't know what happened to it, I'd sure love to have it back in my possession again.
@silvercreekslim6008
@silvercreekslim6008 7 жыл бұрын
I have an Eddystone.
@usvet76
@usvet76 8 жыл бұрын
What would be a better choice if you had to choose between the two? And why?
@carltonperkins5673
@carltonperkins5673 11 жыл бұрын
Another great history lesson from Professor Hickok45 and His Talented Video Production Team all in one person, John. I love this Rifle!! First Rifle I was ever given was the Model Of The 1917, Shot my first dear with it the day my dad gave it to me 30 years ago at age 17. It was so darn heavy, I put it back in dads gun case, and only recently reclaimed it and found that Dad had kept it great condition all these years. Thanks Dad :) And thanks again to you Hickoc45 and you also John. Regards
@loganpollock1689
@loganpollock1689 7 жыл бұрын
My grandfather also used one in the first world war. According to the York movie, we must assume that most of that action was at less than 100yds. Grandpa's outfit were at the flanks of the marines at the engagement later called Belleau Wood. Atypically(I suppose) it was flat, mowed fields and no extensive trenches. The ground was dry so they could see the German bullets kicking up dust and tried to avoid them. The Germans used an anti-aircraft shell which detonated before hitting the ground. When the Germans tried to move across that ground at 500-600yds away, they put the enfields to good use, according to him.
@deafsmith1006
@deafsmith1006 8 жыл бұрын
I never understood why, say in 1930, they didn't just make a 10 shot mag for the 1917, like the Brits did their .303s, and maybe shorten the barrels 2 or 3 inches. Yes it weight about a pound more than the 03, but much better sights and a 10 shot mag would be not difficult to make. We had a couple of million 1917s.
@EnterTheFenix
@EnterTheFenix 8 жыл бұрын
+Austin Wild Theres truth in that, but they didnt have to load a 2nd clip of 5, if it was a tense situation.
@EnterTheFenix
@EnterTheFenix 8 жыл бұрын
***** The training is a valid point, also imagine a lull in a battle.. how many rounds did I just fire? can drop in one clip but not two whole clips.. ending up with loose rounds or an unknown number of loaded rounds. not ideal.
@SonOfTheDawn515
@SonOfTheDawn515 9 жыл бұрын
something to add is it held six in it's magazine vs five
@mad555max
@mad555max 9 жыл бұрын
+SonOfTheDawn515 because it's an adaption of the pattern 14 303 (rimmed cartridge!) enfield rifle that was being made by us manufacturers before the us joined the war. the stripper clips only held five rounds though there werent any special clips for the m1917
@davidcarson7855
@davidcarson7855 8 жыл бұрын
it is 5+1 because the P14 fired the rimmed 303 and they didn't change the magaqzine
@cripto1366
@cripto1366 7 жыл бұрын
Very interesting. In a game called Verdun, one of the American class carries this rifle and part of the reload animation is him putting an extra bullet after loading the stripper clip.
@mad555max
@mad555max 7 жыл бұрын
Cripto136 totally possible.
@dougmoore7116
@dougmoore7116 6 жыл бұрын
He’s says that around 1430
@user-user9
@user-user9 7 жыл бұрын
Just bought one, re barreled in WW2 and in virtually untouched condition with a CMP cert. SO EXCITED!!!
@edmundcharles5278
@edmundcharles5278 10 жыл бұрын
The more I watch Hickok, the more I enjoy his narrative explanation of the various firearms being exhibited vs his firing of the weapons. I seem to have heard that the P17 had an unusual type of rifling vs the 1903 Springfield.
@Welshman2008
@Welshman2008 9 жыл бұрын
Also used by British Home Guard Units in WW2
@pinz2022
@pinz2022 9 жыл бұрын
Welshman2008 As seen in the classic comedy "Dad's Army": "Sir, it's going to be a bit difficult to deliver a 'constant, withering fire', we're only issued five rounds each" (pause for laughter). Also issued to the Alaska Territorial Guard, ATG ("Eskimo Scouts") in Alaska.
@brianbowman1148
@brianbowman1148 8 жыл бұрын
the 1917 would make a good deer and elk gun
@MaxwellBenson80
@MaxwellBenson80 5 жыл бұрын
That's for sure.
@nothanks3590
@nothanks3590 5 жыл бұрын
no it wouldn't.
@thejestor893
@thejestor893 5 жыл бұрын
Makes a yote gun:)
@Llama212ify
@Llama212ify 11 жыл бұрын
Just what I needed today. A Hickok45 video!
@Thestargazer56
@Thestargazer56 2 жыл бұрын
My granddaddy gave me myEddystone M-1917 in November 1971, It was manufactured in November 1918. It started my US military surplus weapon collection. It will always be my favorite.
@rlo5547
@rlo5547 9 жыл бұрын
I have my late granddaddy's 1917 Eddystone that he "partially" sporterized but still has original barrel. Are you using surplus loads or can the 1917 tolerate modern loads, I understand that the action was so good that many turned them into magnums. does this mean it should be okay to use modern ammo in 30-06? Love your channel by the way!
@RodFitzpatrick
@RodFitzpatrick 8 жыл бұрын
+R Lo I have an Eddystone M1917 30.06 ... It will cycle/shoot anything you put in it . I reload my own 30.06 ammo and i'v loaded some scorching hot rounds and it takes them just fine. Any questions you have then fire away ;)
@rattlesnakeridgeresearch6144
@rattlesnakeridgeresearch6144 8 жыл бұрын
+RodFitzpatrick The M1 Garand is the one that requires light loads, due to the semiautomatic action. The Model of 1917 is one beastly strong rifle, with front lugs. Its fun to put a hot hollowpoint into a milk jug full of water, and then see that the jug was turned into lace.
@TakasiTamaFutuna
@TakasiTamaFutuna 8 жыл бұрын
I bought one today.
@camsnyder2636
@camsnyder2636 8 жыл бұрын
How much did you pay ?
@TakasiTamaFutuna
@TakasiTamaFutuna 8 жыл бұрын
+Shinobi V 101 600 USD
@camsnyder2636
@camsnyder2636 8 жыл бұрын
Wicked I want to buy one but I don't want to drop the cash right now maybe someday but my luck they'd be a thousand dollars.
@TakasiTamaFutuna
@TakasiTamaFutuna 8 жыл бұрын
+Shinobi V 101 gunbroker is the place to check, some people have decent deals. Or keep checking local gun shops and gun shows, you'll never what may show up.
@camsnyder2636
@camsnyder2636 8 жыл бұрын
Yeah but all I can ever find are made into sporters and I want a original. Yet the sporters are like $200.00.
@georgetinc9578
@georgetinc9578 11 жыл бұрын
Hickok, love the video with only 1 exception. You are awarded the Congressional Medal of Honor, you don't win it in a contest.
@WildmanR1
@WildmanR1 11 жыл бұрын
Love it! The birds are so used to you they just keep singing! Amazing how you never hear John!
@kenowens9021
@kenowens9021 7 жыл бұрын
Supposedly, Sgt Alvin York did't like the sight on the M1917 and preferred the Springfield better.
@libertatusinperpetuum2046
@libertatusinperpetuum2046 7 жыл бұрын
Actually, Alvin York carried and killed his german soldiers with this Model 1917 30-06 rifle. The movie about Sgt. York starring Gary Cooper was incorrect (as usual) and showed him with the Springfield, but he used the Model 1917 as it was what he preferred. There were many more 1917 pattern rifles made during WW1 than there were Springfields also.
@battmann678
@battmann678 10 жыл бұрын
This is the next long gun on my list.
@mrp.n.z4764
@mrp.n.z4764 9 жыл бұрын
mine to so it can keep my 03 springfield company.
@battmann678
@battmann678 9 жыл бұрын
I picked one up while at a gun show in Raleigh NC, we were visiting family. It's a sweet gun and shoots beautifully. Like you, mine stands next to my 01A3, and I think they've become friends. Best Regards.........Ski
@drunkinmaster1
@drunkinmaster1 11 жыл бұрын
I love the history lesson. Great video Hickok!
@crystalrock18
@crystalrock18 11 жыл бұрын
Thank you posting this great rifle Hickok!
@Subjugator1866
@Subjugator1866 9 жыл бұрын
I was hoping this would be the S&W M1917 revolver :(
@gixxerfixxer4159
@gixxerfixxer4159 8 жыл бұрын
He just did a video on that.
@pattonfreek
@pattonfreek 7 жыл бұрын
the reason your bolt wasn't shut at the beginning is because you had the safety flipped before the bolt was shut, that's why is you look at the video in the beginning, the lock is way back. When you turn the safety off, the pin shouldn't move forward. what I'm saying is don't turn your safety on before you shut the bolt.
@Ratbot40
@Ratbot40 11 жыл бұрын
another awesome video love all the history behind this you and john do excellent work really really enjoy watching and thanks for the time spent doing them......life is good take care and God bless from micigan
@Reic333
@Reic333 11 жыл бұрын
"Won the medal of honor" made me crack up hehe Yet another Great video. I can't say I've watched any other "TV Show" for more than three years and stayed interested before.
@melomanic68
@melomanic68 10 жыл бұрын
please do a "chapter 2" of this amazing rifle
@GenosectKingRevived
@GenosectKingRevived 5 жыл бұрын
melomanic68 You got your wish.
@poodlemeister22314
@poodlemeister22314 10 жыл бұрын
What were the differences between the M1903 and M11917? (Aside from the obvious sight placement from forward to rear sights)
@FishKepr
@FishKepr Жыл бұрын
M1917 is cock-on-closing, the ‘03 is a more traditional Mauser action. Safety placed differently. Also since the M1917 was originally designed for .303 British, it actually hold 6 rounds of .30-06.
@MrTruckerf
@MrTruckerf Жыл бұрын
One thing that is instantly noticed is the dog-leg bend in the bolt handle.
@bayardocaldera
@bayardocaldera 11 жыл бұрын
Great videos Sir, keep up the good work. Tons of info in then and very entertaining.
@jpesall
@jpesall 11 жыл бұрын
I Inherited a 1917 enfield eddystone several years ago. Glad you made a video about it! I didn't know all that much about the rifle before. Keep up the good work Hickok
@jessicahamilton321
@jessicahamilton321 8 жыл бұрын
Mine is pretty close to yours in age. Mine is 6 18. Mine is also a Remington. Are the Remingtons more common then the Winchesters?
@mattm6883
@mattm6883 6 жыл бұрын
Yes, don't quote me but I believe out of the roughly 2mil made, 1.1 was eddystone, 500k was Remington, and 400k Winchester
@TheHatt12345
@TheHatt12345 10 жыл бұрын
my m1917 is absoluttly perfect and dated november 1917.
@freeholdtacticalmed
@freeholdtacticalmed 5 жыл бұрын
Hunter Hatt my 1917 is also barrel dated 11-17...
@ronnierushing7796
@ronnierushing7796 4 жыл бұрын
Paul Schonbrun mines 1918
@thudable
@thudable 11 жыл бұрын
Enjoyable as always Hickok. Thanks.
@wildb4206
@wildb4206 7 жыл бұрын
I have one (M1917) made exactly 2 months after yours(7/18). Maybe they only stamped once per month. My father bought it from Kmart in the 60's or 70's when he was a manager there. He said they came in crates from military surplus and every rifle was covered in thick oil- a petroleum tar like substance to preserve them. That's why the finish is dark on mine but I think it is walnut though. 100 years old still shoots well.
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