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Remo's Review of Final PTR (1.36.2)

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@L0LDRAGON
@L0LDRAGON 2 ай бұрын
Tauren are supposed to be slow by lore? thats not true, its planes running time baby they should be as fast as huntress with their cat mounts zooming 350 speed instead of ghouls being the fast walking unit.
@matija201
@matija201 2 ай бұрын
And take that tree away a give them giant axe and plus 15 dmg
@skywillfindyou
@skywillfindyou 2 ай бұрын
@@matija201 Nope. The log is essential, very memorable visual design. It's mandatory for it to be there.
@cpthurme
@cpthurme 2 ай бұрын
Excellent, informative and easy to understand. Hope Blizzard sees this! 💕
@RobinOnTour
@RobinOnTour 2 ай бұрын
Good point on soul burn vs dh Remo. Good suggestions in general 👍
@xtremelemon8612
@xtremelemon8612 2 ай бұрын
17:00 Indeed mass wyverns are a bit too scary vs UD lately, and so since they are so strong I would also agree they should give a lot of xp if you kill them. Good job, this is the only review I saw that was fair, neutral and honest towards all 4 races overall, especially also about the ghoul frenzy issue. Ghouls are fast to compensate the fact they are squishy, if mov speed is reduced too much like proposed they will die too easily and just feed xp to ennemy heroes
@xtremelemon8612
@xtremelemon8612 2 ай бұрын
@@allydea I followed these recent matches between Lyn and Happy. And in fact by far most of the time Lyns go mass wyverns he wins, besides a few exceptions which is probably the one you picked. Lyn himself said he could do that almost all the time but its boring, which is also exactly what the person said in this video and indeed its a wise take, promoting mass air def is toxic to a certain extent. Wyvern are def ok as they are now and surely do not need any buff of any kind. Actually if anything their 3rd dmg upgrade is too much imo, they get passed 50dmg with that.
@xtremelemon8612
@xtremelemon8612 2 ай бұрын
@@allydea thats possible. The first thing I said was that possibly wyverns are ok as they are now yes. at the end of the day, a slight ghoul frenzy nerf should solve the issue, just that from 80 down to 50 is way too much
@cadukizzi
@cadukizzi 2 ай бұрын
@@allydea you mistake "Undeads" for "Happy". Only Happy keeps positive win rate vs wyverns. Also I think Orcs are missing the point that while you complain about Wyvern, HHs get nerfed again. Orcs should ask for buffs, undead is not even their hardest matchup. Happy is a hard matchup for anyone, undead is not.
@EricM93
@EricM93 2 ай бұрын
@@xtremelemon8612 We haven't seen a single game with web fiends vs wyverns yet....I think UD has to try that first before we claim wyverns are OP. Plus the MU still isn't that bad compared to UD vs NE, where we've seen UD win before 10 minutes for the past few years with frenzy ghouls....over and over.
@xtremelemon8612
@xtremelemon8612 2 ай бұрын
@@EricM93 well yes because Happy is the best player and he really has ghouls as a stable in his composition thats why we see "ghouls that keep shredding", in reality its due to Happy. And for some reason he prefers to go gargoyles instead of fiends for anti air, not sure why.
@123pa1n
@123pa1n 2 ай бұрын
great so now another 5 years of rangecraft 3 wrath of the coil nova
@thecrazygamer2853
@thecrazygamer2853 2 ай бұрын
I had the idea of giving them a similar ability to res skin, but change what specifically they can resist. Stuff like slow and polymorph. Keep the ability to do damage but reduce movement hinderance.
@newbor5928
@newbor5928 2 ай бұрын
I think dragon hawk and wyvern buff is not good. Mass air i think is boring. The nerv for ghoulfrenzy is too much.
@muraliworth2269
@muraliworth2269 2 ай бұрын
What does the Wyvern buff actually do??
@johnnyenglish1652
@johnnyenglish1652 2 ай бұрын
Rifleman does not need a HP boost. However, Rifleman lacks a special effect skill like all other 3 food range units do. Recommend following: HP: Reduce from 535->520. Headshot (requires upgrade): 10% chance to deal a critical strike (+50%) and cause mini-stun for 0.5s (0.1s against hero).
@bigben9463
@bigben9463 2 ай бұрын
As a hum player, Totally agree with this.. they’re the only t1 range units without any t3 upgrade
@Biobin123
@Biobin123 2 ай бұрын
From dota? :) mini stun will be annoying to deal with canceling channels. + when mass snipers are attacking it will trigger non stop so they will be able to stun lock everything… Maybe 100% slow for 0.5 sec?
@bigben9463
@bigben9463 2 ай бұрын
No absolute need for stun but like the idea of a critical strike.. what matters is to have a t3 upgrade
@user-bm8lb9se3l
@user-bm8lb9se3l 2 ай бұрын
Just make Rifleman a hero so that it can snipe for his level 6 skill.
@stankokostic725
@stankokostic725 2 ай бұрын
That is a fun idea and I like it in general, but imagine this version of Rifleman with inner fire or 2v2 with bloodlust. They would mow down everything
@gromba
@gromba 2 ай бұрын
Bullls are a fast charging animal.
@millancche
@millancche 2 ай бұрын
Necromancer: nerf unholy frenzy: effect down, duration down, mana cost up, hp/sec loss back to 4, BUT make it undispellable, undevourable and unstealable, like poison, disease or doom. The only way to make them work is to give them something that works despite dispel/destros/breakers, since all other races have something about their casters that alwsys works, except necros and banshees. Purge, some wards, heal, dispel, druid/dryad combat stats, poison, abolish. Necros or banshees need something like that. Please don't make me laugh by responding me about possession, as that one is basically useless VS players with some mediocre micro. Also neo should not be allowed to comment on ballance ever ever again. Only this dude should be doing these from now on.
@cadukizzi
@cadukizzi 2 ай бұрын
Another patch, another substancial buffs to the already strongest race in the game, Humans. Makes no sense. Also, what is the point of nerfing ghouls to the point that they are unplayable? Make every undead use fiends and get rape by knights? Gargoyle vs Gyros? Not even Happy could make that work. Mass aboms? Undeads have 0 options to make up for this...
@millancche
@millancche 2 ай бұрын
No, dude, UD is great, you can, totally like, go Temple, necros and banshees, theyre awesome and super useful right now, never better. Just get some necros and banshees, and the moment a first enemy Un it with dispel is out, or a spellbreaker, just type "gg" and quit, it's actually an amazing time saving strat, as you've alreasy lost :)
@Khadgars123
@Khadgars123 2 ай бұрын
lol, happy wrecks knights with Banshee's even before knight nerf. Now will take even longer for knights power spike
@L0LDRAGON
@L0LDRAGON 2 ай бұрын
Well ghouls can still help creep early and harvest lumber+ defend base, in very late game players probably should need to make other units than tier 1 resource harvesters to get by
@cadukizzi
@cadukizzi 2 ай бұрын
@@L0LDRAGON frenzy is a tier 3 upgrade and ghouls are trained in the undead barracks. It's not like Undeads have many choices. Fiends are hard counter by knights and gargs by gyros. Aboms were never an option since they are not damage dealers.
@cadukizzi
@cadukizzi 2 ай бұрын
@@Khadgars123 are we balancing an entire game based on 1 player? Also, he consistently loses to knight gyros, got beaten in the biggest offline tournament last year by that strategy.
@alexanderschwenk8228
@alexanderschwenk8228 2 ай бұрын
Please dont bring fiends back
@Khadgars123
@Khadgars123 2 ай бұрын
"pain in the balls"
@skywillfindyou
@skywillfindyou 2 ай бұрын
13:00 Big L here. It fits their fantasy, they aren't supposed to be slow.
@123pa1n
@123pa1n 2 ай бұрын
ghouls being terrible is the best thing for the game
@Omnideus_
@Omnideus_ 2 ай бұрын
Well deserved undead ghoul nerf. Well deserved NE buffs
@SuperSkandale
@SuperSkandale 2 ай бұрын
Always when listening to Remo you must keep in mind his UD biases. Every time lol, every time. He just can't distance him self from his UD love. Wyverns are a cheese right now to deal with mass ground units UD. Think of other matchups when wyverns are used, too mych experience for what they do.
@009_Ghostly_Systematic
@009_Ghostly_Systematic 2 ай бұрын
Yep and we mostly see on the top level so far that they only use ghoul opener. I haven't see a build where they go for a fiend tech switch or just even having one for web against air.
@123pa1n
@123pa1n 2 ай бұрын
ghouls being shit is the best thing for the game
@RobinOnTour
@RobinOnTour 2 ай бұрын
Zeppelins are cool don't nerf them, you could give them like 10 attack damage so that you can counter another players zeppelin harras by buying your own zeppelin
@MaxTheDev-f6t
@MaxTheDev-f6t 2 ай бұрын
I am all for ghoul nerf thank god
@ChoseNTuber
@ChoseNTuber 2 ай бұрын
think circlet change is super good in terms of continuity, other drops in that category is 300 gold and sells for much higher than circlet, so make circlet 300 gold as well. Think hero that will be impacted the most is BM which can be easily fixed by increasing his level 1 to +1.5 str and +1.5 agi, then each level up adds 0.5 less str and agil until level 4 which will normalize that increase. DH maybe +1 agil at start, same design as BM Other item changes: gloves should be +15% speed and +1 atk, that is better as +20% is too weak at the start and too strong later. archmage ring is way too powerful for that level, or make the +6 items +1+1 to the 2 other stats (6/1/1), make runed bracers 50% spell dmg reduction (too weak for lvl4, or considering moving this to lvl3) Ring of protection +5 is just a joke at lvl3 when ring+4 is at lvl 2. Remove ring+5 in that drop. also add thorns aura with 11.25% (really not sure why keeper aura is being deleted??) Remove battle drums in that drop and add +4 to all stats item, can considering adding +1 on the last stat on hood/medallion/helm. level 6 items are way too wonky (pendant is too good on MK/TC useless for elf, orb of d completely useless, staff of silence generally not useful against UD), as they are the biggest drop, can consider to give things like full level 1 aura for DK/TC/AM or even combined aura, 1 from level 4 and 1 from level 5 drop or some other creative stuff? Same drop table for too long makes game stale. Consider: +4atk,+10%atk spd,+1 to all stats, lvl 4 item +3amour, +15% dmg reduction from spells, +20 movement speed, lvl 4 item +1hp regen, +20% mana regen, lvl 3 item
@xtremelemon8612
@xtremelemon8612 2 ай бұрын
increasing the circlet cost to 200 would be much easier and already probably make more players hesitate more before buying it. increasing 75gold early game makes it completely unviable and removes strat options for no reason tbh. And the hero stats surely dont need to be touched for now, especially adding base agi on agi hero that become really strong late game and power really fast with trash items like gloves of haste and claws of atk. Those dont need any buffs.
@technologicalsociety
@technologicalsociety 2 ай бұрын
Another nonsense patch that will be changed back to whatever and whenever because they seem to randomly implement changes with 0 thought put into them. But hey, lets make a feeble attempt at balance around pro 1v1 and screw the rest of the community. Just let the game die already so I can stop having false hope for this game and the guys at b2w can finally get a job streaming something other than Happy Vs the world every weekend. Maybe that is what they are shooting for with these nonsense patches?? No offense and thanks. /unsub
@JonathanBen-Naim-cx5om
@JonathanBen-Naim-cx5om 2 ай бұрын
The patch is great. Fortunately, Blizzard know the game better than Remo...
@DarkflameEmperor
@DarkflameEmperor 2 ай бұрын
NE is by far the best race. (Not in balance but in rankings). Not sure why the race that populates the top 50 players with 17 / 50. Orc 12 / 50 Human 10/ 50 Undead 8 / 50 Worst balance is NE vs UD but UD is by far the weakest race, just not sure how to fix that race without giving Happy a key to dominating every tournament.
@RazielDeTam
@RazielDeTam 2 ай бұрын
What are you talking about? There's 3 NE in top20, with 0% winrate vs UD. Dominant statistics indeed
@RazielDeTam
@RazielDeTam 2 ай бұрын
Honestly, there's like 200 players in total, if majority prefer to play NE it's not a definition of OPness
@DarkflameEmperor
@DarkflameEmperor 2 ай бұрын
@@RazielDeTam Colorful, Moon, Lawlet, Kaho, Life, EleGaNt, and Foggy are all top 20.
@DarkflameEmperor
@DarkflameEmperor 2 ай бұрын
@@RazielDeTam Yeah last I checked NE was like 105 players and Orc had 62 or so players but now every race is in the 60s so the population of the races is even.
@Rotiehota
@Rotiehota 2 ай бұрын
There are more NE players because the race is the easiest to play, and UD is the hard race to play (thats why UD have less players)
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