Do NOT insult those of us who are actual mechanics! I have known how to get a bearing race off since before there was even internet! CUTTING THE RACE OFF IS THE WRONG WAY! IT IS SO WRONG! The right way is to press it off and if you don't have a FUCKING press, then what are you doing replacing an encapsulated bearing?

@@TheRealAaronWitchey exactly 💯. He is showing the "right way" for one aspect but I bet he does it completely wrong for everything else....

@@TheRealAaronWitchey It's not wrong. If done correctly it is actually less likely to do damage than a press. These bearings aren't sold as a hub and bearing combo in the aftermarket and the OEM is expensive. Every single press in bearing also uses a separate hub. You claim to be a mechanic, yet you don't know plenty of cars have the hub pressed in after the bearing? You really need to chill out. Clearly if you knew it from before the South Main Auto or other popular videos, was that comment targeted at you? Relax, please, and use some common sense and context.

@@gorillawrenchin Nothing I showed was wrong or harmful to the hub in any way. Kindly correct me if there is a single thing I did which will damage the hub or affect performance. The target audience of this video is DIY mechanics and home gamers, not professionals with full access to a shop full of tools. Even then, I know plenty of professional mechanics who cut off bearing races regularly for various reasons. It is a commonplace technique and the point of this video was showing a Dremel can provide more control with less noise, sparks, dust, heat, and risk of damage.

@@TheRealAaronWitchey Oh, and if you didn't know, it's extremely common to press a hub into a bearing both on or off the car with a wheel bearing press kit that uses a large bolt and various cups and plates to press the hub in. It actually has less risk of damaging the assembly than a press and it is for that reasons Subaru even released a specific service bulletin to do it that way rather than using a press. Many OEM service manuals call for the same procedure.

Hahaha oh boy do I feel that! I was amazed how much cooling the wheel kept it from wearing down for sure.

@@802Garage not in feeling even old that I'm awake now. I'd like to learn some more stuff like that and look forward to next tips

@@fryreartechnology7611 Thanks really appreciate it! Have several more cool informative vids lined up. :D

@@802Garage if you cut it on both sides usually when I cracks it will stay open and basically fall off a whole lot easier

@@houstonmoore2952 Yep I'm actually going to make a video on that next. 😁

That's awesome! The more you do it the easier it will get. Thanks a lot for the comment!

I have used it for so many different things. Including cutting the heads off bolts that were stripped holding in a Jeep transmission.

Thanks for watching! It helps if you angle the cut even more, but I straight up forgot to when filming. Next I'm actually going to make a video on just cutting and cracking both sides, hahaha.

Thanks I appreciate the positivity. Too many people want to jump on and say "just do it this way instead" when that's not the point. Watch a video on every different technique and you expand your tool set rather than having one solution for every problem when another might save time, effort, and money. :D

I love the control of the Dremel and the air saves the disc! Def possible to do with an angle grinder if you're careful though. Also angle the cut more than I did in this video for easier removal.

@@802Garage I gave my old Camry to my daughter after doing this ( following flooding in Montreal) at 350,000 km. 450,000 and good for another 200,000 ( before engine gives up the ghost)

Actually planning to make a video on that next!

Yeah there are many methods and I just wanted to show the cutting method with what I think most people have available. Your method sounds cool and like a fun science experiment, but it doesn't sound quicker to me. If time is paramount, going heavy with a cut off wheels on both sides will work, hahaha. I'm going to make another video soon on doing this method, but cutting both sides and cracking to see it fall off. And yes the welding method works well too! Thanks for the comment.

A lot of us don't have Oxy torches. The Dremel method is best for us DIYers with normal tools

@@DaDaDo661 Yeah that was my intent behind the video. :) Thanks.

@@DaDaDo661 oh, I'm not discounting the Dremel method at *all*, that's why I made sure to specify that I've used it. It just reminded me of a "cool trick" I figured out messing around in the shop, so I decided to share it, is all. I figured it out after getting into blacksmithing and having an idea I wanted to test, stemming from my experience with fast quench times and not preheating the quench oil causing blades to become super brittle and sometimes just fracture during the quench itself, along with stress risers and grain structure causing failures. My theory is the "chisel whack" changes the local grain structure along where the edge strikes and adds internal stress... The rapid heating causes the material to expand, and it's then immediately hit with liquid CO2 (upside-down Air Duster) and is immediately, RAPIDLY quenched down to around negative 100F, before ever being heated long enough to become fully annealed... That "super-quench" causes the material to rapidly shrink and contract while also becoming much harder and more brittle, and the metal fractures along the surface defect along the defect that was created with the chisel. It's more of a "hey, this is cool!" and a neat science experiment to do, more than anything else... Although it's come in handy several times where a bearing race was butted up against something and a Dremel wheel wouldn't fit to cut it.

​@@802Garage i will have to try tig i was shown mig to extract races now im wondering which will shrink faster lol

Fair point.

Heck yeah! Thanks for the comment.

Holy shet.

On purpose?

I just got a chunk out of my finger this morning

@@ljguy300 doubt it, maybe, not sure.

@@houstonmoore2952 I have an infected hand that’s been fucking with me. Dirty ass c5 corvettes.

That's actually a cool idea nobody had mentioned before. People talk about welding beads and all, but I like that! Obviously this video is targeted at lowest common denominator home gamers though.

Yep if you have a welder. :) This vid was about the cuttin' method.

Check my comment it’s easier. Acetylene torch and a bolt, nut and washers.

@@tycenwitlox283 If you have an acetylene torch. I'd wager 99% of DIY mechanica do not. 😁

Welcome!

Man I tried pulling an axle bearing off of a 12k lbs axle today, had over 2klbs of pulling pressure, nothing. Absolutely had to grind it and crack it just to have a fighting chance

It's pretty easy to cut it on accident! Use the air and if you wanna make it even easier just cut a slit in both sides and crack with a chisel.

Gets it done!

Over time I accumulate many correct tools hahaha, some of them I still go back to my old methods.

It seriously impresses me too. If you heat them up they can be gone in seconds, but a little compressed air and they go for a long time.

@@Willam_J Right?

Does this work on regular cutting discs aswell? Because some days i have to cut like 5’ of aluminium profile and it most times costs three quarters of a disc due to it starting to wear aggressively half way during the cut. Makes me wear a dust mask from all the green residu it spreads into the air.

@@bertbergers9171 It should definitely help a lot!

They are super nice. Have you used the fiber reinforced ones that look like a tiny waffle? They last like 10X longer than the normal ones and OMG they cut nice.

In my experience, you always need to touch it again. :P No, but seriously in this case they don't sell the hubs alone for some reason and the OEM hub and bearing assembly was too expensive for my friend I was fixing the car for. Plus I don't really like to replace things unnecessarily if I have a good part. This only takes a few minutes! Not that this was a great example of a good part, but this car had a ton of miles and was in really rough shape and it was pretty much repair to get it to end of life. I hear you though.

Yeah when it comes to like flat rate shops and every tool under the sun, there are faster way. This is more for home gamers and DIY, but honestly there are a lot of tricks I use that are faster or easier than some of the tools available. I just like to be meticulous and not damage anything. :D

Hahaha awesome story. We accumulate some good ones over time. :)

Very welcome, thanks for the comment!

Thanks a lot! Angle the cut more than I did and it's faster. I just forgot.

Yeah an air cutting tool is also great!

Nope pretty common when you don't have a shop full of specialty tools!

Going to make a vid on that next!

Thanks! Yeah if you have the bearing splitter tool it's handy, but this is still pretty quick.

How would you use a press to remove the race ?

Hahaha, that can definitely be a time saver! In this case for some reason only the dealer sells the assembly, everyone else you have to buy the bearing and press the hub in. On the older cars you had to press the bearing in before the hub. So just depends on the job.

@802 Garage still have to press them together. Here in California, bearings and hubs are on the shelves at auto part stores

@@jonnysanchez3833 Oh for sure haha. I like reusing when I can, but if I was doing constant business I'd buy new hubs often too.

Right? Haha. Next time I'll show just cutting both sides.

Thank you!

Thank you! I actually meant to angle it more and forgot. If you go at more like a 30-45 degree angle it takes a little longer to cut, but it knocks off way easier.

If you're using a grinder an angle is pretty much the only way to cut it without chopping through the wheel face of the hub... how tf have you been doing it

@@NoknOnDors Watch the vid! Don't cut all the way through and then crack it. No knicks at all!

As long as you didn't make a huge gouge or something it's totally fine. Just needs to be round still and not cracked hahaha. Everyone saying just use a torch is over simplifying.

They break often. You buy them in packs of like 10-50. Just wear eye protection it's not dangerous otherwise. They also make fiber reinforced discs that have like a waffle pattern in them and those are amazing so much harder to break.

I was surprised just how much it saves the disc. Almost zero wear.

So you like to do it the expensive way! Plus that requires shipping a part or going to the auto parts store. Then you'll likely have a part inferior to OEM. ;) It's easy to tell people to spend their money, but I like teaching them how to save money. (I know you might be joking around, but no tone in text, so no hard feelings either way.)

Thank you!

Yep, I just like to show a variety of methods that work for people who don't necessarily have all the tools! I don't even have all the tools for the methods for every job hahaha. Sometimes the more expensive methods are actually slower as well. Like a ball joint puller versus my ball joint trick.

Thank you!

That's a great idea for sure! It also helps if you angle the cut more than I did, but I forgot when filming.

Saves the disc like crazy!

Basically, when the cutting disc gets too hot, the material degrades quickly. The air cools it off and keeps the wheel together!

Haha when money is available and the parts are available, it's always an option. For some reason nobody sells this hub aftermarket and the car is on its last leg anyways.

Right. I just replaced two for $178 bucks a piece and I was done in 30 minutes.

Appreciate the comment!

If you are talking about the hub itself, yes! Some small cuts aren't going to affect the function. If there are a lot of deep cuts around the shaft it could be an issue, and you don't want any raised areas on the flat part of the bearing race sits against as that will cause it to sit unevenly. Obviously, the bearing race itself is destroyed and no longer usable.

Yeah I've seen all the same vids, hahaha. Personally, I'd probably go with this method 9/10 times anyways because it really doesn't take long and it doesn't involved getting out the torch. Still a good technique though!

Good for you. :) Now do you think this video was for you?

Thanks!

Hahaha actually though. I have knicked a hub maybe one time? And you could barely see the mark. Not like I do these daily, but I'm pretty meticulous.

Hahaha actually though. I have knicked a hub maybe one time? And you could barely see the mark. Not like I do these daily, but I'm pretty meticulous.

Exactly. It's just... Tidier.

@@802Garage Sometimes the lesser tool is the best tool. Only use what you need.

@@richardcurtis2688 And what you're comfortable with!

Absolutely should replace the race when installing a new bearing for numerous reasons. That's a hack job. Sure, you can inspect the race and make sure it's good, but you also have to remove it to install a new seal on the type of bearing that is multiple pieces. So really just a big no no.

You have to press that out. I have a full wheel bearing tutorial you can check out.

Hahaha. Yeah it works great instead of using like half a disc if you go fast it barely changes size.

Thanks haha I appreciate the positivity.

Probably not, most wheel wear is from hogging into the cut. Fireball tools has a good video on it, though I will add, cheap discs usually don't last long anyway. But if you're making a bunch of brown dust, your wheel is just eroding away and not really cutting. Source: me with hundreds, if not thousands of hours using grinders.

It worked fine. Car is very old and beat and on its last legs. New hubs are quite pricey for the 2000-2004 Legacy platform and are barely available.

You're welcome and thanks!

Yup!!

See pinned comment. This doesn't take long either.

Yeah sadly your options are usually cheap stuff that doesn't last or really expensive Dremel stuff that is just okay. The fiber reinforced cutting wheels are great though.

Haha yep see pinned comment. Multiple ways to skin a bearing, or whatever. ;)

It works even better if you angle the cut more, but I forgot to!

@@802Garage very interesting!!

@@yesteryeargears8191 Thanks!

No way to know without checking runout and flatness. I reused it because for this car they actually very rarely sell new hubs alone and aftermarket doesn't sell hub and bearing together, leaving OEM as the only option which is quite expensive. That, plus the car is very high miles and on its last legs. Did the exact same job to the other side and both are holding up well so far.

It's just a demo you tit.

Check the pinned comment, hahaha. Problem is you need a fairly hot flame and the setup isn't instant either. This is pretty quick and simple for most home gamers.

Yep that actually works great! Relieves the tension on the metal and then you can just tap it out.

$200 is a lot of money to a lot of people. I charged less than $200 for this entire job. Wheel bearing was like $30 and this only took me a few minutes. Whole job was a few hours due to rust cleanup and all. Old rusty car on its last legs.