No video

Removing Inserts From Carbon Arrows

  Рет қаралды 43,611

Samko Trad Bow

Samko Trad Bow

6 жыл бұрын

TBWPODCAST.COM
This video shows a quick simple way to remove glued inserts from carbon arrows without damaging the carbon arrow.

Пікірлер: 106
@vjxred4517
@vjxred4517 Жыл бұрын
4years later and your video still helps, Thanks!
@SamkoTradBow
@SamkoTradBow Жыл бұрын
Awesome. Glad ypu enjoyed it
@robp_bowfly
@robp_bowfly 3 жыл бұрын
Good to see you treat your kitchen like I treat mine. Nice and clean, but always worthy of propane torches, channel locks and a pile of arrows! Good work brother!!
@SamkoTradBow
@SamkoTradBow 3 жыл бұрын
And my wife loves it when I take over the kitchen for hunting stuff...lol
@jimbigboystoys4077
@jimbigboystoys4077 2 жыл бұрын
I was trying to find a way to change out my inserts, so I can install heavier ones, but I wasn’t sure how to do it without damaging the carbon. This looks about as simple as it gets. THANKYOU so much for sharing!! 👍
@SamkoTradBow
@SamkoTradBow 2 жыл бұрын
It works great and doesn't ruin the carbon like some other methods.
@jimbigboystoys4077
@jimbigboystoys4077 2 жыл бұрын
I finally tried it, and it works fabulously. I did ruin The first arrow though. But that was my fault… I held the tip over the torch for too long. It melted some of the carbon from the inside. Lesson learned though I guess.​@@SamkoTradBow
@allenshamon442
@allenshamon442 Жыл бұрын
5 years later and still helps. Broke the insert when sighting in my new phase 4 and had to find a way to remove it without damaging my arrow.
@SamkoTradBow
@SamkoTradBow Жыл бұрын
Glad it worked great for you
@terrymccleery3497
@terrymccleery3497 8 ай бұрын
Great info as usual. Google it and you came up again. You’ve given us so much valuable info.
@SamkoTradBow
@SamkoTradBow 8 ай бұрын
Thanks. Glad you enjoyed it
@johnbivins
@johnbivins 3 жыл бұрын
Freaking awesome. Purchased about 15 maxima and 12 misc carbons and they have inserts but we’re cut full length. The shop here is out so now I can remove these and have them cut down. Thanks bro!!!!
@SamkoTradBow
@SamkoTradBow 3 жыл бұрын
Glad I could help
@danielbehrens6288
@danielbehrens6288 3 жыл бұрын
Quick, precise and sound advice. Thanks a lot!
@SamkoTradBow
@SamkoTradBow 3 жыл бұрын
Welcome. Glad you enjoyed it
@MoratiRace
@MoratiRace 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks.Exactly what I was looking for. Well done !
@atlasbailly5439
@atlasbailly5439 4 жыл бұрын
thanks for the great vid man. needed to cut down arrows and this worked perfectly!
@SamkoTradBow
@SamkoTradBow 4 жыл бұрын
Glad I could help
@sproulman1
@sproulman1 5 жыл бұрын
Use blue cap G orilla Gel glue fir inserts ..Use acetone or goof off to clean inserts before gluing . Lightly sand the inserts with light grit paper ... Put glue on 3/4 towards front of insert .. Easiler to get out if glue is not at end of insert..
@sed6
@sed6 Жыл бұрын
Thanks a million! 🥳
@SamkoTradBow
@SamkoTradBow Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@zen_of_I
@zen_of_I 17 күн бұрын
Yea thanks for saving my carbon shaft yesterday. 🎉👍
@SamkoTradBow
@SamkoTradBow 17 күн бұрын
@@zen_of_I glad the tip helped
@runforitman
@runforitman 3 жыл бұрын
thank you for this was able to reuse some good inserts from broken shafts
@SamkoTradBow
@SamkoTradBow 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome!
@benjackson5727
@benjackson5727 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much I really needed this
@SamkoTradBow
@SamkoTradBow 3 жыл бұрын
Works great 99% of the time!
@nhayes927
@nhayes927 8 ай бұрын
Smart, thank you!
@SamkoTradBow
@SamkoTradBow 8 ай бұрын
Glad you enough it
@lcjjr.6714
@lcjjr.6714 Жыл бұрын
Does this method work with removing Easton HIIT inserts installed with the epoxy they provide with their inserts ?
@SamkoTradBow
@SamkoTradBow Жыл бұрын
No idea. Don't shoot those so never tried
@jonathanstaley3883
@jonathanstaley3883 2 жыл бұрын
Great tip! Thanks so much mate!!👍🏻🤙🏼🏆
@SamkoTradBow
@SamkoTradBow 2 жыл бұрын
Very welcome
@HeavilyConnected
@HeavilyConnected 2 жыл бұрын
Use soldering iron with screw in the insert for soldering tip. Works a treat heats up fast and pulls right out no pliers.
@SamkoTradBow
@SamkoTradBow 2 жыл бұрын
fantastic tip! Thank you.
@sed6
@sed6 Жыл бұрын
No pliers? How do you remove the hot insert from the iron 🤔
@sproulman1
@sproulman1 5 жыл бұрын
Use Acetone and soak the tip if arrows in Jar ...heat even hot water will make carbon brittle... Then use rod in thru nock and tap our nit drill bit
@SamkoTradBow
@SamkoTradBow 5 жыл бұрын
Interesting. Might try that to see how it works
@blacksrfm
@blacksrfm Жыл бұрын
This method does work, but you still need to be careful because you can damage your arrow if you overheat the field point
@SamkoTradBow
@SamkoTradBow Жыл бұрын
Best way I know how to do it. But its a balancing act. pull gently with the pliers every 10 seconds or so and when the heat has done its job the inster will come out.
@xcmandan
@xcmandan 3 жыл бұрын
@Traditional Bowhunting And Wilderness Podcast do you use epoxy or hot melt glue? I do the same thing with epoxy. Years a go when first learning this technique I used to much heat and the carbon wrapping came out with the insert. So yes just enough heat to pull it out
@SamkoTradBow
@SamkoTradBow 3 жыл бұрын
I use gorilla glue blue impact resistant. Works great. Yep its a fine balance with the heat and occasionally I still ruin a shaft or 2.
@UrMom_says
@UrMom_says 4 жыл бұрын
I needed this
@mwallace6540
@mwallace6540 Жыл бұрын
Can you remove nocks with aluminum collars from carbon arrows also…thinking Mission bolts or Excalibur quills?
@SamkoTradBow
@SamkoTradBow Жыл бұрын
I would imagine you could but never tried. It all depends on the glue they used
@user-ul3qe2tq1o
@user-ul3qe2tq1o 4 ай бұрын
But if it's super glued? I tried heating it but it got so hot even carbon got so hot but it won't come out.
@SamkoTradBow
@SamkoTradBow 4 ай бұрын
Yep certain glues will hold almost too tight and not be heat reversible
@mikenardozzi3049
@mikenardozzi3049 3 жыл бұрын
So helpful. Thank you
@SamkoTradBow
@SamkoTradBow 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@SamkoTradBow
@SamkoTradBow 3 жыл бұрын
Learned another great trick from the ranch fairy. Find a drill bit that fits in the shaft pull the nock off and slide the drill bit into the shaft and swing it. It will help knock out the insert.
@deathandtaxes9997
@deathandtaxes9997 2 жыл бұрын
You're the man
@SamkoTradBow
@SamkoTradBow 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed the video!
@gregroberts900
@gregroberts900 5 жыл бұрын
If I heat the glue in order to rotate my broadhead/insert to line up with the fletching will the glue reharden or should I remove the insert and reglue it?
@sproulman1
@sproulman1 5 жыл бұрын
Reglue
@UrMom_says
@UrMom_says 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent question
@jamesdevore5171
@jamesdevore5171 3 жыл бұрын
I removed the nock and slid a drill bit in the shaft. You flick the arrow down and the drill bit works as a slide hammer and will release the insert
@SamkoTradBow
@SamkoTradBow 3 жыл бұрын
Yep learned that from the ranchfairy last year. It works great on normal inserts. On my double ones I custom make I still have to heat up. But thst drill bit method is excellent!
@97kt69
@97kt69 3 жыл бұрын
@@SamkoTradBow Fine if the knocks weren’t glued in lol.
@robertfazekas4607
@robertfazekas4607 Жыл бұрын
Will this work with AAE insert glue as well?
@SamkoTradBow
@SamkoTradBow Жыл бұрын
Never tried that glue. Do t know
@sproulman1
@sproulman1 5 жыл бұрын
Debates on using Acetone to soak carbon arrow but GT says its ok will not harm carbon fibers ... Avoid using drill bit inside and swing it will crack the arrow .. Better idea is rod thru nock area just smaller than dia of arrow and lightly tap with hammer while holding arrow.. Drill bit will mushroom the soft brass inserts ane split sides of arrow ... Using no heat is best way I like Acetone then use rod and punch out ....
@SamkoTradBow
@SamkoTradBow 5 жыл бұрын
Heat had always worked great for me. Especially with my custom double inserts and both being glued. But I will try the acetone
@stevesoutdoorworld4340
@stevesoutdoorworld4340 2 жыл бұрын
Great tip! What glue do you use to reset the heads?
@SamkoTradBow
@SamkoTradBow 2 жыл бұрын
Bohning hot melt glue to mount heads to adapters. Inserts to shaft I use gorilla glue blue impact resistant
@run2september23
@run2september23 3 жыл бұрын
Perfect!
@timphelps1591
@timphelps1591 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@kxmixing
@kxmixing 6 жыл бұрын
will you be able to reuse the arrow shaft? i bought some arrows but they are too long. i want to get them cut but also want to reuse the insert.
@SamkoTradBow
@SamkoTradBow 6 жыл бұрын
kxmix yes. That is the reason you want to do it this way is so that you don't over heat the carbon and ruin the shaft. You can reuse the insert and the shaft.
@jimbernard8964
@jimbernard8964 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome thanks
@sproulman1
@sproulman1 5 жыл бұрын
Also buy small dia rod that will go thru hole in the front insert and you can punch your Nocks out just insert and tap out will come your Nock ....
@cliffdaigle2211
@cliffdaigle2211 4 жыл бұрын
thanks brother!!
@SamkoTradBow
@SamkoTradBow 4 жыл бұрын
Welcome
@victormai5182
@victormai5182 5 жыл бұрын
Will this work for if epoxy was used?
@SamkoTradBow
@SamkoTradBow 5 жыл бұрын
Not sure. I never used epoxy for inserts. I always gorilla blue impact resistant glue. I'd give it a try. Cone to think of it I do epoxy on my bowfishing points and I can remove them like this with heat. So I bet you can!
@victormai5182
@victormai5182 5 жыл бұрын
Traditional Bowhunting And Wilderness Podcast thank you for the advice. I messed up and somehow the epoxy got into the inserts so that the points cant be threaded all the way. Maybe i just used too much? Idk but im gonna try to remove them, clean it off as much as possible, and redo them.
@b2theroni
@b2theroni 5 жыл бұрын
vicwiz007 did this work with your epoxy?
@victormai5182
@victormai5182 5 жыл бұрын
Byron Saggese nope and to top it off, the points are now stuck in the threads about 3/4 of the way. Cant be unscrewed or screwed lol Lesson learned is to use less damn epoxy, and check it after application, before hardening to make sure its ok
@sproulman1
@sproulman1 5 жыл бұрын
Victor,green cap gorilla glue gel is what I use .... Any heat will ruin carbon shafts makes them brittle ....
@Alan_Edwards
@Alan_Edwards 3 жыл бұрын
I assume it works the same for glue in points. Do I need to use a small round wire brush to get out any old glue before reinserting new points?
@SamkoTradBow
@SamkoTradBow 3 жыл бұрын
Yep would work the same. Just be careful not to over heat the shaft. I do not use a brush to clean out old glue and never had a problem.
@Alan_Edwards
@Alan_Edwards 3 жыл бұрын
@@SamkoTradBow Cool thanks. I have some new GT arrows coming with the weight system and want to try a few point weight (FOC) options before I commit. Without the tool to insert the weights from the nock end, I need to be able to remove the points and change the weight. Thanks for the reply.
@jeffa.7298
@jeffa.7298 2 жыл бұрын
Just to be clear, it is super glue with the blue cap made by gorilla brand correct?
@SamkoTradBow
@SamkoTradBow 2 жыл бұрын
Correct or green cap as long as it says impact resistant
@jeffa.7298
@jeffa.7298 2 жыл бұрын
@@SamkoTradBow thanks! Love the channel
@dylanfrancisbravener8513
@dylanfrancisbravener8513 4 жыл бұрын
thx!
@SamkoTradBow
@SamkoTradBow 4 жыл бұрын
Welcome
@mossyhornhunter7022
@mossyhornhunter7022 4 жыл бұрын
Nice kitchen
@SamkoTradBow
@SamkoTradBow 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you. Built it all myself by hand!
@mossyhornhunter7022
@mossyhornhunter7022 4 жыл бұрын
@@SamkoTradBow I can tell , I do some carpentry myself and was thinking about building my cabinets rather than buying them too . Look great , just my style.
@SamkoTradBow
@SamkoTradBow 4 жыл бұрын
@@mossyhornhunter7022 thank you. Was definitely a much bigger project than planned, but aren't they all...lol
@Petunia31
@Petunia31 5 жыл бұрын
Just ruined a $15 arrow by doing this (except heating the field point outside of the arrow, installing it, and about 2-3 seconds later pulling out the point along with some carbon fiber). I’m not knocking this guy or the 12 other videos on KZfaq showing a variation of this method, but I’m just saying be sure of what you’re doing and be careful. (Might also be the way the CX Maxima Reds are constructed) (might also be my dumb ass but, for once, I don’t think that’s the case)
@SamkoTradBow
@SamkoTradBow 5 жыл бұрын
You didnt get it hot enough or allow a minute for the heat to sink into the insert all the way. I have had that happen a couple times as well. But there really is no other way to get the insert out.
@Petunia31
@Petunia31 5 жыл бұрын
The threads of the FP were just beginning to glow, had it in for about 3 seconds and began pulling, so it may not have been long enough. Also, I did not build the arrows initially so I don’t know what glue was used and that could have been a factor. But you live and learn; I just hope someone may learn “something” from my experience. Thanks for the input.
@SamkoTradBow
@SamkoTradBow 5 жыл бұрын
@@Petunia31 great points. I suspect another 30 seconds or minute would of let the heat sink all the way to the back of the insert to release the glue.
@sproulman1
@sproulman1 5 жыл бұрын
Can also buy a 8x32 screw and cut head off...Use soldering iron take our tip and put screw in.. Heat it fir 5 minutes screw it in arrow ... Insert should come out ... I use wet rag around insert to keep carbon arrow cooler ....
@atlasbailly5439
@atlasbailly5439 4 жыл бұрын
do you always leave this many comments?
@sproulman1
@sproulman1 5 жыл бұрын
I am not c ommenting to say this is not good idea ,I did it fir years .. Any heat will ma ke a carbon arrow brittle ...... Even hot water .... Acetone and long rod inside almost dia of arrow tapped lightly with hammer is way I do it ... Do not use drill bit idea it will crack sides of arrow and mushroom the brass insert ...
@benji4840
@benji4840 3 жыл бұрын
tnx o7
@amaroq69
@amaroq69 4 жыл бұрын
Just ruined 2 arrows doing this. 🤨😐😒 splintered the end of shaft...
@SamkoTradBow
@SamkoTradBow 4 жыл бұрын
Heat only the field tip and give it time to let that heat sink into the insert and release the glue. Took me an arrow or to to figure out i wasn't waiting long enough for the heat to get from the field tip to the insert to the glue. And not sure how it works with all glues out there. Some are less heat releaseable than others.
Medieval Wounds | What happens when you take an arrow to the knee?
10:31
thehistorysquad
Рет қаралды 1,1 МЛН
Кадр сыртындағы қызықтар | Келінжан
00:16
Fast and Furious: New Zealand 🚗
00:29
How Ridiculous
Рет қаралды 48 МЛН
How to cut your own arrows
5:59
The Budget Sportsman
Рет қаралды 106 М.
How to Remove Fletching From Archery Arrows
8:47
3RiversArchery
Рет қаралды 9 М.
Will this new tool work for changing inserts?
6:31
Death by Bunjie
Рет қаралды 6 М.
5 Ridiculous Archery Tropes (that actually work!)
18:57
blumineck
Рет қаралды 126 М.
How Hard Is Olympic Shooting Really ???
20:09
Kentucky Ballistics
Рет қаралды 1,7 МЛН
Arrow Insert Installation With Hot Melt Glue
10:55
Bowhunting Soul
Рет қаралды 8 М.
How Well Will Hot Melt Hold Your Arrow Points In? | Archery Testing
34:33
Shore Shot Archery
Рет қаралды 10 М.
Removing a Plastic Nock from a Carbon Arrow
2:32
Craig Kaimer
Рет қаралды 75 М.
HOW TO HOT MELT ARROWS PROPER
3:51
ElkShape
Рет қаралды 18 М.
Кадр сыртындағы қызықтар | Келінжан
00:16