Removing Rust From A Bike Chain | 3 Household Items Vs Rust Remover

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Want to know how to clean a rusty bike chain? One of the best bike restoration challenges is rust removal! In a response to viewer requests, Anna Cipullo wants to see if a common household item such as vinegar, fizzy cola or baking soda is a suitable rust removal method? Can it remove rust in a safe way, or Is it best to use a dedicated rust remover? Or time for a new bike chain!
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00:00 - Intro
01:43 - Cola
03:23 - White Vinegar
05:15 - Baking Soda
07:13 - Rust Remover
08:58 - Conclusion
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@Sarabethd 4 ай бұрын

How did people get anything done in life back in the day without internets and videos like this?!

@komoonkh 2 жыл бұрын

Vinegar works, but you have to soak it for longer. Then you can wipe the rust off. It is pretty good and cheaper than rust remover.

@angellara4940 Жыл бұрын

How long would you say?

@susiebolton484 4 ай бұрын

I like the presentation - clear, informative and not irritating. Vinegar seems to be an all rounder, I am not sure what it does to your stomach though!

@BrianRPaterson 2 жыл бұрын

Re the test/experiment: Cleaning off the surface rust makes chains look better. But I'm curious about how well these processes get rust off the pins and the inside of the rollers where the friction is high? Cheers

@TheButlerNZ 2 жыл бұрын

If you use the Vinegar method you should soak the chain in a water/baking soda solution to counter the acid. I use old (stale) petrol to soak old chains to remove grease etc 1st The leftover makes for a good fire starter for the rubbish in the yard... (Only had the fire dept round once (Nice PIc's to go with that one))...

@mattgies 2 жыл бұрын

I would have done one piece of chain with just water and a wire brush, as an experimental control (since most or all of the solutions you used contained water; only one I'm not sure of is the Rust Remover product).

@bensonc627 2 жыл бұрын

I learned from others by adding salt to vinegar to remove rust for the bike rack mounting bolts, the rust dissolve itself in 10 min without bushings.

@mustafahasan5296 2 жыл бұрын

Huh really...

@qwertyzxcv123 5 ай бұрын

😂😂😂

@user-lx6td6ri2c Жыл бұрын

I tried white vinegar, and it works.

@vitorvilasanchez 2 жыл бұрын

A wire weel on a baterry powered screwdriver works well for me, a bit of wd40 and a rag to clean it all up afterwards leave a pretty good finish.

@patrolmaverick 2 жыл бұрын

It would have been interesting to see the results of taking the bicarb soda chain and sitting it in the container of vinegar. I think that would have possibly been the most effective mix.

@eoinkenny3188 2 жыл бұрын

Depending on the ratio's of bicarbonate and vinegar, you would just end up with salty water. As the bicarbonate and vinegar would cancel eachother out

@mrsmartypants_1 2 жыл бұрын

@@eoinkenny3188 You’re missing the point. The bicarbonate soda creates a grit action with a brush loosening a lot of the rust then putting it in a container filled with vinegar would create a lot of fizz releasing CO2 further loosening rust deep inside the rollers. Obviously the ratio of vinegar is far more so the bath would end up acidic. I too think it be very effective and very cheap.

@SeniorCajun3 4 ай бұрын

If there's left over backing soda on the chain it will fiz and foam , vinegar is acid and baking soda is a base ( alkaline )

@mazdarx7887 2 жыл бұрын

10 minutes on a brass wire wheel bench grinder, then oiled with molybdenum disulfide grease mixed with 30 weight motor oil .

@cb_b6833 9 ай бұрын

“let’s soak it in cola for 1 hour, (25 mins later), right so it hasn’t worked”

@DarkNight708 Жыл бұрын

Citric acid (Lemon acid) is much better at removing rust from metal than soda. Used it on many pretty heavily rusted parts. Its cheap and environmentally friendly than many other chemicals the only thing you need to consider is if the part was covered in grease you better use grease remover before applying citric acid

@tamiral-hadari2982 2 жыл бұрын

Evapo-Rust works great on most steel alloys but not all, it claims to be safe and reusable but it's rather expensive at £15 per liter; Citric Acid works great on most steel alloys, however caution should be applied as it can attack the metal depending on the concentration, temperature and length of time applied, low cost and can be purchased from most supermarkets / DIY retailers and it also works great for descaling house hold items like kettles, irons, shower heads...etc.

@sligor85 2 жыл бұрын

If it is not too much rusty just well lubing the chain again and doing a few hours of ride removes most of the rust.

@trikster22 Жыл бұрын

any tips for a year old rust for my bike chain? I just use both wd-40 degreaser and the special version of it and they're both sucks.. like they've only got the crust of rust, i was expecting it's gonna be look like new but nah

@sjaan7370 2 жыл бұрын

Sounds like a good fix for kids bikes that don't get to come in doors 😉

@charlie9ine 2 жыл бұрын

I don’t know how widely available this product is. It’s called Evapo-Rust. It is 100% biodegradable and is reusable. Drop your rusty bits in and when it’s done it’s job you can pour it back into the container and reuse it. It also works really well.

@batterybuilding 2 жыл бұрын

Don’t use rust converters on chains. They can cause cracks in brittle/harder steels where the black oxide expands. I had it happen on the side plate where the pin was pressed in. I didn’t notice and the chain ended up breaking (which resulted in a painful walk home)

@charlie9ine 2 жыл бұрын

@@batterybuilding I'm sure you make a good point. I can't argue with you because I've never had rust on my chain in 25 years of mountain biking. I would tend to agree with a lot of other comments that were made on this segment of why you would need to get rust off your chain in the first place if you maintain your bike?

@aaronmosser 2 жыл бұрын

Baking soda mixed with vinegar works good without brushing

@erikjohnson6484 2 жыл бұрын

Vinegar should leave it to soak for 24 - 72 hours. You want it to remove the rust on the inside of the rollers. Then soak it in lighter fluid to remove any extra grit the vinegar couldn't sort. Pickle jars & coffee filters to recycle.

@UCiWrMgES50tlUhV3l6NqjNA 9 ай бұрын

will 72 hours deep clean it the best? or end up damaging it? how much time in lighter fluid?

@bluestraycat 2 жыл бұрын

Interesting comparison, I didn't expect the coke would work very well...I wonder if the baking soda would give better results if mixed with water to form a strong solution then soaked for a couple of hours?

@xjamablamax 2 жыл бұрын

I believe the main principle of the banking soda mixture is only effective as an abrasive in this case, not a chemical rust remover. This is because it's basic instead of acidic, so it doesn't remove the oxidation like vinegar does.

@rjnash2610 9 ай бұрын

Coke works great. However, ignore her little concern about it eating away at the metal if left over night etc lol. So... what you gotta do is leave it for 24 to 36 hours and scrub a bit and it'll look good as new! We've been using it or vinegar (or you can mix the two - 70% coke to 25% Vinegar) and after 24hrs... Wow, just try and see.

@markevans3124 2 жыл бұрын

I use apple cider vinegar and lime juice mixture. It will strip the rust and grease off anything.

@Marceloacampos 2 жыл бұрын

How to protect the chain after the rust is removed? Wd-40 and then chain lube? Wouldn’t the wd-40 stop those wax based lubricant from attaching to the chain?

@gmbntech 2 жыл бұрын

If the chain is dry and clean then just apply wet or dry lube depending on the conditions you're riding in. 👍

@robertklep 2 жыл бұрын

Cola (somewhat) works because it's acidic as well (both from phosphoric acid, E338, as well as due to dissolved CO2, aka carbonic acid). But I can imagine the other ingredients (sugar/HFCS) don't play very well in getting a clean chain.

@Lionsraws66 2 жыл бұрын

😴

@robertklep 2 жыл бұрын

@@Lionsraws66 Don't worry, you're still allowed to think it works because it's fizzy 😘

@Lionsraws66 2 жыл бұрын

@@robertklep lol ' fizzy woo' ! ❤️ 🤣

@SeniorCajun3 4 ай бұрын

Did you know that you can clean the top of a car battery with coca cola , but if it gets into the cells of a car battery it will kill the battery

@kjellakjella 2 жыл бұрын

Any tips for rusty bolts and other small parts on a bike? Tips to keep these from rustning

@elrictdb 2 жыл бұрын

I've painted bolted with a thin layer of cheap 99p shop superglue. Just don't accidentally fill up the recess. Not saying this is good or long lasting, just something I've done..

@bikepackingadventure7913 2 жыл бұрын

Buy titanium bolts 🙂

@andretokayuk8100 2 жыл бұрын

@@bikepackingadventure7913 Or anodize your hardware with titanium.. we all have some busted Ti parts lying around for a cathode... saddle rails being the most plentiful..) Ti bolts are way to expensive to put on a bike you obviously don't care about..)/*

@bikepackingadventure7913 2 жыл бұрын

@@andretokayuk8100 ? Who said the poster did not care about their bike?

@andretokayuk8100 2 жыл бұрын

@@bikepackingadventure7913 The chain did..) I listen to the chain..)/*

@Kingtrollface259 Ай бұрын

Another one is drain cleaner sodium hydroxide ,probably clean it the best ,but don't get it on your skin ,it can strip it

@kovie9162 2 ай бұрын

I'm not sure what's in the rust remover but if it's acid-based then it's probably phosphoric acid, which is also the ingredient in cola that removes rust, albeit in a much lower concentration because after all it's meant to be ingested. The vinegar is acetic acid, which also removes rust. Basically all acids remove rust, to one degree or another. If you want to go even stronger there's muriatic acid, which is watered-down hydrochloric acid. I will assume that the baking soda, being an alkaloid, attacks rust similarly to acid only from the opposite direction in terms of pH, although it's not really an effective way to remove rust. The thing is, any kind of acid is going to not only remove rust but also metal, so you have to be careful when you use it, and when it's done you need to rinse it off with water and then neutralize it with an alkaloid like baking soda, and water, for a few minutes, or it could keep on eating the metal and cause damage, which you clearly don't want in a chain. It's called hydrogen embrittlement and it's the enemy of all structural metal. Those white spots on the chain are traces of phosphoric acid that weren't removed or neutralized, and they're going to damage the chain and any parts that come in contact with it. Far better than any of these is something called Evaporust. Not sure if it's available outside the US under the same name, but it works differently from acids, removing only rust and leaving good metal alone. It takes a bit longer to work so you usually have to soak it overnight, but it's very effective on light rust and doesn't damage the metal. I've used it to derust car parts and it's very effective at that. It can also be reused. If it can't remove all the rust then chances are that the part is beyond salvage and can't be used. Basically, I wouldn't use any of these products on rusty parts, although if they're all you have then you can use them, just don't keep the part in them for too long, and help things along by periodically wire brushing.

@rjnash2610 9 ай бұрын

@bikepackingadventure7913 2 жыл бұрын

If your chain is that bad, you need to have a good look at the rest of your bike 😳😳

@gmbntech 2 жыл бұрын

Hahaha! Agreed. - Anna :)

@RzabiSwiat Жыл бұрын

I hate all the rest of my bike, I only like chains.

@Matasky2010 Жыл бұрын

Not necessarily- the chain always rusts WAY faster than the rest of the bike, especially if you're in a humid climate.

@Mohamad0311 Жыл бұрын

My bike is almost brand new and I am ridning it to school in winter and I got rust all over my drivetrain

@ProReelFishing Ай бұрын

My bike chain is golden brown with rust the only other bad parts are the gear things that hold the chain but that’s just cause it’s a because racing bike used alot

@bobothericefarmer1878 2 жыл бұрын

Makes sense

@eusebiovic Жыл бұрын

Didn't it occur to her to put a tablespoon of baking soda in the vinegar?

@zoranrebernik4645 2 жыл бұрын

Oven cleaner goes a long way.... Best results i had with cleaning old rusty metal.

@Seppster58 2 жыл бұрын

Drink the cola for that sugar/caffeine boost and go at the chain with a brush and soda or what-ever you have. Done in no time!!. 😀

@SlowDelSol 2 жыл бұрын

I don’t know if y’all have it over there but in the US there’s a product called Evapo-Rust and that stuff is actual magic.

@WIPEYOURLENZ 2 жыл бұрын

Yes we have it and you are correct the best by far 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

@elrictdb 2 жыл бұрын

I wonder if coca cola's effectiveness has dropped since they changed the recipe. I've not made one (yet), but have thought that some sort of hand held fine sand abrasion box might work (I'm imagining something DVD box sized quarter filled with fine-ish sand), vigorously shake it lots for removing surface rust evenly, then rinse out thoroughly and dry. I've wire brush scrubbed so many chains for cheap bikes that I'd rather buy a new cheap 6-8 speed chain now than waste 2+ hours. Ofc if you have the money - new chain all the way!

@janeblogs324 2 жыл бұрын

The sand would get stuck inside the rollers....

@KodyLovelace 10 ай бұрын

Can you use any vinegar?

@danielvelasquez7708 2 жыл бұрын

If it was that much rust I would simply replace it with a new chain, and if it's minor rust then add Baking soda or Rust Remover.

@haydengloyne6852 2 жыл бұрын

i hope no one trys his this to get a chain working not a good example of what to get rust off for example surface rust on chrome bars or seat pole okay . not a chain that should be in the Bin!

@silver_c1oud 2 жыл бұрын

Finally, GMBN taking tips/Alternative for the masses and Home mechanic. This what makes seth's(Berm Peak) Video more appealing, simply because he made a video for example using specialty tool or An Alternative.

@andretokayuk8100 2 жыл бұрын

That's a dope channel..)/* Love that back-yard trail!

@migo8259 2 жыл бұрын

@@andretokayuk8100 are u serious?

@andretokayuk8100 2 жыл бұрын

@@migo8259 More serious then a case of Covid.)

@chrissahagun4803 2 жыл бұрын

With chains as cheap as they are at like $14-25 for a good chain, I’d save myself the elbow grease and just get a new one 😂

@mattfoley6082 Жыл бұрын

Not a word about removing rust from inside the chain's moving parts (rollers) where it matters.

@sonnybaldwin945 2 жыл бұрын

Hey can you please do one for a cassette because I feel like that would be a bit different

@gmbntech 2 жыл бұрын

Hi Sonny. It shouldn't be any different. The cassette is just a lump of metal that you can scrub or take off and soak. Good luck! - Anna :)

@stepbro2119 2 жыл бұрын

Link to the rust remover

@dangrady2938 2 жыл бұрын

Very informative, but why would you let a chain get in that condition in the first place .

@Tommi462 2 жыл бұрын

Low end chain on a bike that has relatively little use, and no place to store indoors? Like my wifes bike for example. I keep my bikes outside, too (again, no place to keep them inside unfortunately), but they haven't really rusted, probably because I just use them more (which leads to cleaning them and lubing them more as well).

@aryanalasvandian1579 2 ай бұрын

Rust remover £10 + brush £5 + bottle of vinegar £4 = £19 A brand new KMC chain £10 🤔

@Dorkbike 2 жыл бұрын

Hard to beat muraitic acid for this job. Just be careful with it, it deserves respect.

@randallford5584 Жыл бұрын

With a lil tin foil, blast rust right off…

@qwertyzxcv123 5 ай бұрын

@@randallford5584 how?

@migo8259 2 жыл бұрын

@askGmbnTech Its really true that Chain are not Recommend to apply Wd40 deep penetrating spray to remove rust,bcoz it will lessen the Lifespan of the chain?

@andretokayuk8100 2 жыл бұрын

WD 40 blows goats as far as it's effects on chains.. it's almost as bad as cutting fluid.. (works ok for drilling, milling and sometimes turning stuff on lathe).. it's ok in a pinch and will protect bolt heads.. but don't use it on your chain unless you have money burning a hole in your pocket.

@udonisaxel5283 2 жыл бұрын

She said she’d be back in an hour or two but it’s just 25 min later wtf? Also white vinegar will work within a few days

@TedEhioghae Жыл бұрын

Also, it seemed like she was using the same chain in all of the experiments.

@sypernova6969 Жыл бұрын

not jujst any cola works. coke works because they add Phosphoric acid to it. that is also an ingredient in certain reust removers. any drink with acidic properties would do....

@sethat8e 7 ай бұрын

Soda blasting may be another option not explored here.

@gregknipe8772 2 жыл бұрын

when I was a kid we soaked rusted chains in a bath of used motor oil. we learned never to allow a chain to rust or get dirty.

@lwittrock1 2 жыл бұрын

To remove rust, buy new chain. the cost saving in all the solvents, my time and labor, and other stuff makes it cheaper to buy new. Good video though.

@robertogomez4168 2 жыл бұрын

Evaporust does the job

@spills_n_thrills 2 жыл бұрын

Just ride it. Usually comes back rust-free for me

@daniellararios191 2 жыл бұрын

Baking soda with lemon

@snoopy10411 2 жыл бұрын

I'd probably just get a new chain and stop leaving my bike outside? Not quite sure who would need to remove rust from a chain beyond people riding BSO's. Not sure that there will be many followers of Gmbn that this would be applicable for.

@durianriders Жыл бұрын

Vinegar is best and most eco

@eddolous 2 жыл бұрын

Never had any rust

@gmbntech 2 жыл бұрын

Sick! Keeping your bike well maintained and clean will prevent rusting! 👍

@unboxking7802 Жыл бұрын

Weird you didn't use the steel brush with coke

@rakewawrz5200 2 жыл бұрын

You forgot WD-40 just spray it down and put it in a plastic garbage bag and let it sit for a little bit.

@Bianchiboy 2 жыл бұрын

Better still, don’t let it get rusty in the first place.

@kyboy9730 2 жыл бұрын

Before it even starts, I know white vinegar works great

@hollakeef 2 жыл бұрын

How about a basic household oil on the chain every now and again to prevent the rusting

@gmbntech 2 жыл бұрын

We'd highly advise you keep to bike specific lube as it has very different properties to household oil. 👍

@kimbogreen69 2 жыл бұрын

Haha bin it. Not worth the effort and not worth the injury WHEN it snaps.. Never let your chain get that rusty. It's called lube

@guyd4067 2 жыл бұрын

Quaere: If you let the chain rust, are you going to give a fuck about removing it>

@smc7960 2 жыл бұрын

Jeez ...a little chain rust won't ruin a bike ...I look after my bikes and now and again I miss bits and end up with a little rust ...big deal

@bobbydebobadibob1261 2 жыл бұрын

sounds like this was edited in reverse..

@dOoMnX Жыл бұрын

Too much work! Soak it in muriatic acid (HCl) for 10 minutes, rinse with water, soak in baking soda solution for another minute, dry and oil promptly and thoroughly. But first measure the chain stretch.

@gehrBehr1 2 жыл бұрын

Best way to remove rust is............get a new chain!! Why risk the rest of your expensive drive train for a $40 to $60 dollar chain!??!? I've used cassettes and chain rings for years because I don't let my chain get so worn as to wear the rest of the drivetrain!

@migo8259 2 жыл бұрын

Rust is Normal. Its just outside appearance, Steel is common to get rusted yet it is a Stiff and reliable Material.

@gehrBehr1 2 жыл бұрын

@@migo8259 You're doing it wrong then!

@captainfartolini4335 Жыл бұрын

hugh janus baby

@willlange9978 2 жыл бұрын

Not to be a nattering nabob…but have you seen what rust remover does to your eyes? Perhaps some goggles?

@migo8259 2 жыл бұрын

Vinegar is the best Rust Remover,yet donot mix it with water or expose it outside with Oxygen, your chain will turn Yellow.

@JohnSmith-qf1jn Жыл бұрын

Forget the rust. Let's get this lady some sunscreen, she looks 60... good for her.

@dad7720 2 жыл бұрын

Why not just buy a new chain?? They're only a few quid for goodness sake...

@BrianRPaterson 2 жыл бұрын

If you can find one. I've heard they are hard to get in some places. Plus, they're not exactly cheap. I got a new XT 12 speed chain a couple of weeks ago, and that cost me 30+ quid. I try not to let my chains get too far gone. I''m running two of them in rotation, cleaning and hot waxing the one that's just come off so it's ready next time I change - every month, or sooner if i've been riding a lot or it's been raining. Hopefully that will even out the chain wear, and be kinder to the cassette. Time will tell.

@gmbntech 2 жыл бұрын

Sometimes that can be the easiest way. However, depending on your drivetrain, a chain can cost up to, or over £80!

@darkness789 2 жыл бұрын

Better solution go buy a new one

@gmbntech 2 жыл бұрын

Sometimes that can be the easiest way. However, depending on your drivetrain, a chain can be very costly!

@mitchellmtb7202 2 жыл бұрын

Cat urine

@EMTB17 2 жыл бұрын

If anybody’s bike chain gets rusty that means that you’re just a piece of shit and don’t take care of your things. I’ve been mountain biking from more than 20 years and not once have I ever had a rusty chain

@SteveSUX2BU 2 жыл бұрын

There is no fat in cola.

@adriantataranu2769 2 жыл бұрын

I don't understand why you, as a cyclist, have to find " clever" alternative to remove rust from a bike chain, or even worse, to get a " pro" magic-ultra-giga rust remover spending a fortune instead of ordering via websites a brand new shiny new one ?!?!!!!!!! Effortless, fuss free, 100% the best results! But, noooooooo, where is the sweetness of pain paired with passion? I do ride bicycle! I do everything I can to enjoy THE RIDE. I don't want to waste my time fixing, replacing, upgrading, my bike! Why? Waste of time and energy!of course this is my opinion....I assume it.

@Free__Speech 2 жыл бұрын

The problem with WD40 & other chemicals are harmful because of the toxic fumes. Natural stuff is less problem with fumes If u let the chain soak overnight it will work Use a old toothbrush 🪥