Removing The Water Line From A Boat!
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@robertp7209 4 жыл бұрын
Back about 15 yrs ago, I got a tip that a certain toilet bowel cleaner dissolves the brown stain around the bottom paint line. I tried it and it worked, no rubbing at all. Some said it was going to damage the gel coat, since it was not a marine product. In 15 years still waiting for damage to my Grady. It’s called “The Works”. The active ingredient is hydrogen chloride. There is another version of it at Walmart called “classic clean”, but it has different ingredients - doesn’t work. I transfer the contents to a spray bottle. I apply it out of the sun, and keep it wet and reapply often. Also had a rust stain coming off a stainless thru hull fitting, worked on the rust stain too both the gel coat and the fitting itself. I just purchased a few more containers, 32 oz, at the Depot, for a few bucks a bottle. Also “kills 99.9% of household bacteria” per label 😎.
@Baranoeda 4 жыл бұрын
This is really my favorite boating technical channel lately, thanks so much for it. Really good work in showing how to do thing, keep up the good work! Greetings from Sweden
@charlessmith6957 4 жыл бұрын
Up here in Northern Wisconsin I use a product called "Slimmy Grimmy". Same procedure that you use. Most of our lakes have "Tamarack acid" all natural, comes from the tamarack trees and decaying vegetation that drain into the lakes.
@sv5799 3 жыл бұрын
I buy "The Works" toilet bowl cleaner from the Dollar store. It works also. I spray it down and use a soft brush on a pole to spread it around.. Great videos !!!
@whays 4 жыл бұрын
Oxalic acid is the main ingredient in marine “Rust stain remover”. WM charges about $10 per bottle meanwhile you can make 5 gallons of it for same price with the oxalic acid powder.
@stevemccormick4938 4 жыл бұрын
Toilet bowl cleaner from the dollar store works too.
@Scramasax 4 жыл бұрын
Oxalic acid is the stuff everyone else on this planet is using for removing the waterline yellow. Much safer to use and equally effective.
@cathydavidlivingstone4339 4 жыл бұрын
Great channel. I use "Bar Keeper's Friend" which is basically oxalic acid which takes care of water and rust stains. Shake it on a scrub brush after pressure washing and give er. Great for stainless steel too and it won't burn the hair out of your nose.
@thsissktboarding 4 жыл бұрын
I typically use oxalic acid, but I've heard good things about muric acid. Oxalic works great. I like to use the gel form so it doesn't spray where I don't want it. Don't forget to spray off your boat trailer afterward if you're acid washing on the trailer!
@jonahsroka2346 4 жыл бұрын
I did this today with toilet bowl cleaner and it worked amazingly, I put it on a sponge and just went over it and it was all gone. I accidentally got it all over me and it burned. keep up the great work!
@kevinbyrne9960 4 жыл бұрын
Been using Barkeeper’s Friend for spot treatments and hard to remove stains. Primarily oxalis acid so works really well - comes in a powder as well as a gel
@MAHASHAWNIE 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve always used Snow bowl toilet cleaner. Works great!
@Austin.C 4 жыл бұрын
Works great on chrome rims to get rid of break dust too. I used a watered down acid to get the iron stains from sprinklers off my old bass boat. Not sure what type of acid it was, but it was just as nasty as muriatic. Put a coat of wax on when you're done
@DJSbm-28 4 жыл бұрын
Nice but don’t forget to wax the boat, that stuff and many others like it will remove the wax also. Perfect timing for a good buffing and wax job, after you do any repairs that will surely show up! Lol 😆 love looking for more work to do on my boat. 👍 another great video Arron.
@JimHanelyfishing 4 жыл бұрын
Another great tip. Thanks
@philmapockitz8216 4 жыл бұрын
On & Off will burn a hole in your wallet at three times the cost. Muriatic acid diluted w/h2o also great for taking rust stains off the deck from fishing plyers, hooks, old hardware bleeding rust etc....apply with a chip brush, scrub, rinse & repeat. SnoBowl bathroom cleaner works amazing on barnacles & stubborn growth the pressure washer might leave behind. Great vid...always great sharing cost savings tips amongst the community.
@tonywilliams4066 Жыл бұрын
Bar Keepers Friend, my friend. Safe for the environment and non-toxic. Takes a little elbow grease, but it’s much safer. Leave muractic acid for concrete.
@beaulster 4 жыл бұрын
You could do a whole series of the Suzuki C10 displays. How to calibrate them and set them up with twins. New to me Suzuki with a c10 and really nothing out there that’s accurate. But do love you tips on this channel. Going to test this stuff on some stubborn water stains on the inside. Thanks again.
@NCSandS 4 жыл бұрын
The Works bathroom cleaner with the green label. You can get it at the dollar store. Put it in a spray bottle. I can do my 23 a few times with one bottle. Just spray it and spread it around with a deck brush.
@SeaFishingIE 4 жыл бұрын
I use Oxalic acid. Works a treat.
@dilligafwoftam985 4 жыл бұрын
Gidday mate, I use oxalic acid (C2H2O4) here in Australia 🇦🇺. Does pretty much the same job as HCl, it's used for cleaning bricks and id found in wood cleaning solutions in our hardware stores.
@paulgraham8191 4 жыл бұрын
In UK Harpic Limescale remover (used for cleaning the toilet) takes it off in 5 minutes £2 ($3) - any limescale remover for toilets should work too
@techrfun 4 жыл бұрын
Or you can have a precious Simmons Sea Skiff and place her in the water as needed! I have a buddy that needs this information. Thanks again!
@Fireship1 4 жыл бұрын
I have to do this every year with the nasty river water I boat in. Bought a bottle of west marine bottom cleaner a few years ago and have plenty left. Just a small amount on a sponge bleaches that stain right off.
@jeffm7669 4 жыл бұрын
Pool supply house has muriatic acid for cheap. You need to neutralize the acid afterwards with soda ash. The acid will continue to "work" if not. You can make soda ash by baking baking soda in the oven. I have been doing this for decades. Even on the trailer. Just neutralize it.
@polie67 3 жыл бұрын
or use another sprayer with diluted ammonia.
@bagone1000 4 жыл бұрын
I've done that to my boats a few times a year when the water stain gets noticeable. Just be careful with your drive way and trailer.
@lovinhouse374 4 жыл бұрын
Man I was nervous when you were walking under the boat. I’ve used the starbrite hull cleaner with good success 👍🏻
@austinmoon588 3 жыл бұрын
Talk about my dream job. I wish I could do what you do for a living
@Reefahholic 3 жыл бұрын
Also, if you buy the blue label acid, you need to wear eye goggles 🥽 when mixing or if using straight up.
@theinformedperspective8111 4 жыл бұрын
Waiting on today's video :)
@ermannodibenedetto3064 4 жыл бұрын
Great as usual...music very nice 2
@nygardenguru 4 жыл бұрын
Mary Kate Hull Cleaner worked like magic for me
@iwrenchbluecollar7498 4 жыл бұрын
Toilet bowl cleaner dissolves barnicals and brightens up the gel coat. I don't know how safe it is for boats but it works.
@8180634 4 жыл бұрын
Have some base on hand in case you need to neutralize it in a hurry, such as baking soda.
@atthebrink74 3 жыл бұрын
I use the StarBright hull cleaner gel. Works great but it's a little expensive.
@aaronwood3540 4 жыл бұрын
Never have washed the hull of a boat but I have etched a lot of steel with it. What we use to etch dumascus steel with.
@dewey66904 4 жыл бұрын
SoftScrub. I have a problem with leaves when they get wet. They stain so I break out the softscrub. Just wash the boat after you use it with a brush or sponge as it leaves a haze........
@crispychris9492 4 жыл бұрын
I don’t even have to watch the video but I’m curious to see how you do it. Mary Kate on off is the stuff to use. It’s crazy toxic but it works great. There is bottom paint on the boat but we get the stains above the waterline. We clean it after every season. We use a foam brush and a glass jar and just go along the waterline. You will go through a couple brushes because the brush gets eaten away
@Gmtail 4 жыл бұрын
On&Off is indeed good stuff, but it's nothing more than overpriced Muriatic acid.
@hankschrader149 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome video Aaron! Never knew muratic acid would do the trick! Aaron I am now a MerCruiser parts buying kinda guy :(....I know what was I thinking?! My saving grace are my 2 Yamaha outboards lol I can always rely on those when my MerCruiser powered boat isn't working. My wife even said recently, "our next boat is gonna be purchased new from a dealership with outboards on it" and she knows NOTHING about boats except the cost! esp our 1983 MerCruiser 470 lol
@BornAgainBoating 4 жыл бұрын
Good ole mercruisers lol :)
@dsmcraig 4 жыл бұрын
I came across this channel a few weeks ago cause my dad saw all the tech tuesday shows. So i caught up on the whole series. Technician Tuesday is really awesome. I wish there was technician thursdays too. Why dont you do any suzuki outboard videos?
@BornAgainBoating 4 жыл бұрын
Lol thank you, thats awesome! I'd need a crew to do a Thursday show lol I'm working on getting more Suzuki content, haven't had a chance to work on a lot of them :(
@dsmcraig 4 жыл бұрын
Right on, putting the videos together is time consuming as well. At any rate you make great videos, keep up the phenomenal work.
@440ChryslerV8 4 жыл бұрын
@@BornAgainBoating Maybe that says something about the quality of Suzuki outboards if you don't see many to work on? Love your channel.
@rogerroger7734 4 жыл бұрын
On&Off hull and deck cleaner works great too! Just use a mask cuz holy smokes it smokes while burning thru the buildup.
@rdunbar7418 4 жыл бұрын
Heres a tip, white vinegar will do the same thing to water deposits and is way less dangerious.
@michaelwerbick 3 жыл бұрын
You can get that acid a little cheaper at a pool supply.
@johnhiggs325 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve used Muriatic acid to clean excess mortar off of fresh brick work. The concentration % of the OTR stuff is pretty low, but you sure don’t want it in your eyes or lungs.
@Grottolova 4 жыл бұрын
Shew. Throw some lime down after that boat bath sailor. 🤣 Neutralize that acid. Fun times in the Keys!
@leeyates290 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah I was thinking same thing, maybe baking soda anything before it runs back into the water.
@williamriley2528 4 жыл бұрын
Best I've found is Simple Green 50/50 in hot or warm water...!
@MarkCeleste4157 4 жыл бұрын
The works toilet bowl cleaner is super easy and cheap!
@country0721 4 жыл бұрын
Did it right after watching this video !
@TSemasFl 4 жыл бұрын
That boat been pulling up to the Islamorada sandbar, I can tell.
@donaldtheroux3626 4 жыл бұрын
Oxalic acid comes in powder or granules and is the active ingredient in products like 'On-Off. It is the rust remover used by most commercial laundries and drycleaners. I was in that business for forty years. Also in boating longer. Been using it on boat hulls for over fifty years. Use eye and hand protection. Will irritate. Don Theroux. Rhode Island
@pedrocaceiro3936 2 жыл бұрын
Hey guys!! Acid wash or polish ???
@msacco175 3 жыл бұрын
Must use fan and mask very strong !
@victorjacob3646 3 жыл бұрын
Is it good to use muriatic acid to strip the wax before sanding to paint basically a a good prep?
@BornAgainBoating 3 жыл бұрын
You could do that, it will definitely strip the wax
@knightmare50 4 жыл бұрын
after teh wash, does it effect the gelcoat to where you need to reapply a new layer of gelcoat.
@BornAgainBoating 4 жыл бұрын
No, but you should wax the hull after to help protect the gel coat
@dirtyshirtinfo 4 жыл бұрын
I used Muriatic acid to blue some gun parts. It was a total fail. I had it in a small cup so I could dip a brush. The next day I walked out to my bench and every tool I left out within a 3-5’ circle had rusted overnight. Evidently the fumes are heavier than air and it crept along my bench and worked its way below. Eating everything the fumes came in contact with. 😳
@BornAgainBoating 4 жыл бұрын
Ouch! Yeah, you can't leave it thats for sure lol
@jamesstoddard4902 4 жыл бұрын
Acid opens the pores in the gel if you do this on the topside you better neutralize the acid and wax it immediately or those stains will be worse next go around
@BellavistaPEI 4 жыл бұрын
Here's my question...Sometimes even though my boat is bottom painted, I still get a minor water stain above the water line...Can the muriatic acid get on my bottom paint or will it ruin it? I love your channel! I love getting notifications that you've put out another video!! Cheers!!
@BornAgainBoating 4 жыл бұрын
Idk, I've never tried it on a bottom painted boat. You can try it in the back somewhere that's not really noticeable, and see what happens, it might not visibly do anything, and idk how the chemical reaction will go with the bottom paint chemicals. If you've got ablative paint, it should be good to go as far as the paint goes, then just make sure you wax the hull after. You can also use bar keepers friend or toilet bowl cleaner as well:)
@BellavistaPEI 4 жыл бұрын
@@BornAgainBoating Fantastic! Thanks for all the info you give out...not just on this video but ALL the others as well!!! Because of you, I'm considering some sort of a project boat! My wife does't like you but I do and that's all that matters!!!
@jimt9479 3 жыл бұрын
Stay away from the Muriatic acid, bad bad stuff for skin and lungs. I just used Bar Keepers Friend MORE Spray + Foam and it literally just melted the scum away on the entire hull bottom. My boat is rack stored so no bottom paint but on occasion it sits in the water for several days when fishing back to back so it gets dirty and scumy. This stuff literally was the easiest product to use and much safer then muriatic acid. Wear gloves, Spray on, wipe with a rag to spread it around and rinse off after entire hull is done. The soft cleanser is great on stains and rust spots also.
@kilton2 4 жыл бұрын
wow nice
@daddy0905 4 жыл бұрын
Wow I am going our and doing that this weekend 😯
@BornAgainBoating 4 жыл бұрын
Make sure to spray down and neutralize it on whatever you spray it on!
@richardjohnson33755 4 жыл бұрын
What if the boat hull is bottom painted and just conceded with cleaning the yellow at the water line? Is this safe to do Around the bottom paint? Like when it runs down onto the bottom paint will it hurt the anti fouling paint/boat? Also will it take off bottom paint?
@BornAgainBoating 4 жыл бұрын
Idk, I've never tried it on a bottom painted boat. You can try it in the back somewhere that's not really noticeable, and see what happens, it might not visibly do anything, and idk how the chemical reaction will go with the bottom paint chemicals. If you've got ablative paint, it should be good to go as far as the paint goes, then just make sure you wax the hull after. You can also use bar keepers friend or toilet bowl cleaner as well:)
@andrewfyakim525 4 жыл бұрын
Hi BAB, In eastern NC we acid wash our boats regularly because the tanic-acid (decayed materials) in many of the creeks and rivers leave "The Dreaded" brown stain or 'mustache' on the bow, or anywhere else the water hits the fiberglass. I have not tried Muriatic acid, but will next time. In the past I have used Hydrofluroric acid based products like "Whink Rust Stain Remover" for Colorfast Fabrics sinks and toilet bowls (comes in a small brown bottle). We also use Sno-Bowl toilet cleaner or other acid based products.... We have also found that since we've been using Colonite Paste Wax on the hull, I have not gotten the brown mustache on the present boat. All my boats for the past 40+ years have bottom paint, so I am talking about the hull above the water-line.... Also, most all of these acid-base cleaners work well, but they also strip ALL of the wax off the boat where applied.... Thank you for another informative lesson from Born Again Boating University!
@BornAgainBoating 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Yeah, the only caviot is to watch out if you acid the bottom on a lift or trailer, it'll damage the metal if not careful :/ and you're right, there will be no wax left on the hull after and acid wash lol
@mattgross2745 4 жыл бұрын
just a note that stuff will eat bare aluminum
@alwhaples237 4 жыл бұрын
I have never used muriatic acid, buy I have used toilet bowel cleaner and it works just as good!!
@planbeeapiaries 3 жыл бұрын
30% vinegar does wonders to calcium build up. I've used it to flush the cooling system of my mercruiser when I first got the boat and pounds of calcium sludge came out, doesn't hurt metals or rubber either.
@atthebrink74 3 жыл бұрын
That's a great tip. Now I need to figure out how to do that to an outboard.
@planbeeapiaries 3 жыл бұрын
@@atthebrink74 in a container, that's how I did it on my outboard kicker as well.
@atthebrink74 3 жыл бұрын
@@planbeeapiaries I'll give it a try! Thanks
@johnvaras1764 4 жыл бұрын
4oz acid to 16oz water is good.
@23feyok 4 жыл бұрын
You should avoid the stainless steel with the acid, otherwise will get rusted...
@maraofenkaminservice7255 4 жыл бұрын
Bester Mann am Boot
@MarkPingel 4 жыл бұрын
Does this acid work on pontoons? Or does it tarnish the aluminum?
@BornAgainBoating 4 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't use it on a pontoon :/ its a serious chemical and its not friendly with metals :( aluminum pontoons would be best to use tge vinegar or the toilet bowl cleaners suggested here in the comments. I don't get a lot of experience with pontoons down here :/
@MarkPingel 4 жыл бұрын
@@BornAgainBoating Solid suggestions. I appreciate it. I'd love to have a V hull, but they sit too deep in the water for the river that I'm in. A boat over 2ft deep would get a little dicey, and the last thing I'd want is to smoke a stump that I can't see with a brand new boat!
@georgeberndsen635 4 жыл бұрын
After using any type of acid you need to re-polish or at least wax your boat. Otherwise you make it worse because the acid damaged the gelcoat.
@Agent0range67 4 жыл бұрын
2:10 aka Corona outfit
@marlonm396 4 жыл бұрын
Amazing tip, but that looks like a chemical accident waiting to happen for me..
@capt.bobroemer7784 4 жыл бұрын
Use toilet bowl cleaner. cheaper and does a great job
@ronnypasotra93 4 жыл бұрын
Sueño con una bote!
@hv9356 4 жыл бұрын
I use an old boat brush with a VERY long handle and a mask. Put 2 inches of Acid into a 5 gallon bucket and put it on with the brush. I always wear a mask, the fumes from that shit are wicked....
@chrisbgarrett 3 жыл бұрын
And what happens to the trailer?
@ralph9987 4 жыл бұрын
Have you tried looking for less environmentally harmful solutions?
@seatroutking7555 4 жыл бұрын
Hi all great tip 👍🏻 although unrelated can anybody help on how to remove a yam F75 trim/tilt top pin I have tried just about everything 🤞🏻
@stevemccormick4938 4 жыл бұрын
Heat and a large hammer. More than likely you'll be replacing the pin after you get it apart.
@Fireship1 4 жыл бұрын
Seatrout King heat and a pneumatic impact gun with a blunt chisel tip. The vibration and punching from the gun and possibly some heat should drive it out. That’s how I’d do it.
@seatroutking7555 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the reply’s and help but I have tried those methods already 🤷♂️🤦🏻♂️ even a block of wood with the grain in the right direction and soaking with water hose to try to move to via the expansion.
@BornAgainBoating 4 жыл бұрын
Make sure the kick stand is down, but the heat and air hammer should do the trick, if it doesn't, then somethings wrong and you've got a different problem, the circuit should be off and I think on the 75s they only go out one way, but the air hammer should do it.
@vmonroig21 4 жыл бұрын
dollar general a tub cleaner/shoer called the works not there Gel cost 1 dollar a better thank me later just wash the boat with soap later wax is good too
@adnanbegic7754 4 жыл бұрын
Why not just use the star brite hull cleaner, 10 bucks and takes it away in the blink of an eye
@imsw1550 4 жыл бұрын
Can you do this while your boat is on a trailer?
@icecreamsundae1038 4 жыл бұрын
Sure, but I'd dunk the boat and trailer several times at the ramp afterwards...
@TheSteelArmadillo 4 жыл бұрын
Muriatic acid will cause metals to corrode very rapidly. I don’t suggest it.
@philmapockitz8216 4 жыл бұрын
Not recommended, if your trailer is anodized aluminum it will damage the anodize finish
@BornAgainBoating 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, you want to be careful doing that, doing the acid trick is hard on the trailer. If you keep it on the trailer try the toilet bowl cleaner method
@jasonbeaudoin8359 4 жыл бұрын
Toilet bowl cleaner work’s good and it’s only a couple of dollars.
@dannyv2335 4 жыл бұрын
That’s the 2nd time I’ve heard this
@puzer1 4 жыл бұрын
@@dannyv2335 ...I use Lysol with hydrogen peroxide...2 parts cleaner to one part peroxide...
@ralphcencebaugh6495 4 жыл бұрын
I use “OXALIC ACID 99.6% Crystals It’s safer, and works amazing. I read the label on a bottle of rust aid and that was its main ingredient.
@ralphcencebaugh6495 4 жыл бұрын
Found it on eBay
@koalajs 9 ай бұрын
Use Oxalic acid not this! Safer to environment and boat and everything else. If you are applying itnon the trailer, keep the trailer covered as it attacks galvanized steel.
@Mrkaffecod 4 жыл бұрын
I just polish it off
@mikehotchkiss8975 4 жыл бұрын
Not just for jeans anymore...may be showing my age
@yoda1934 4 жыл бұрын
I wish I could be born again
@BornAgainBoating 4 жыл бұрын
You can!
@yoda1934 4 жыл бұрын
@@BornAgainBoating how
@edwardmorton6730 4 жыл бұрын
You should NOT/NOT be using Muratic Acid on your gelcoat! It's way too caustic. Instead, use Oxcalic Acid (aka Wood Bleach). It's a natural acid, about twice as strong as vinegar, and that's what acid is used in all the expensive name brand products like FSR and On & Off. Muratic acid will RUIN your gelcoat and your through hull fittings and anything else made of metal.
@caramon98 4 жыл бұрын
Mmmm cheap weed killer
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