Patrick Studer danm, it's not that good. it's just a solid, underrated gem...

The elevator is beautiful but one thing no one asks is that if henchman was about to attack them, then why wait until the kiss is over ?

Also when he is kissing Irene the scorpion on his back represents his violent dark side and so when Irene pulls him so the scorpion is no longer in shot this symbolizes that she brings out the good in him.

Underrated comment!

You're better at explaining it than many analysis' I've read.

And a real hero. 🎆🌮

Not just a human bean. A REAL human bean.

On that note, I just have to say that in Drive, Oscar Isaac gave the most convincing "I'm dead" flop of all time. ;-/

Interesting thoughts !

I think the silver could also represent a knight's armor. He *wants* to be a knight in shining armor, but he's got that scorpion on his back. And when I think of it that way, I realize he's as much the frog as he is the scorpion - but his scorpion side could bring them both down.

@@Karin_Allen Here's my take on the jacket etc.. goes along a bit with yours: The jacket(scorpion) was a literal and metaphorical symbol representing the core struggle and theme of the movie. Is he the frog? Is he the scorpion? Is he both? Is his struggle his attempt to become neither? both the scorpion and the frog represent characters complicit with crime. Regardless of how innocent the frog feels he is or how harmless the crime the scorpion feels he is performing; it is that they are both characters choosing to exist in the world of crime i.e. the river which "drowns" its victims if you don't avoid it all together. If you want to go further into the jackets meaning. The jacket was shiny (knight/hero in shining armor) and white representing purity. Covering himself in a cloak of attempted purity even though the white of the jacket could be seen as the frog portion of the fable. No matter how much he tries to justify his actions he is still complicit with all the criminals he interacts with. The white of the jacket is also lined on all sides with brown material. Representing a rough around the edges approach to things. He is imperfect no matter how badly he wishes for a better life. The white jacket also becomes more and more dirty throughout the movie becoming covered in the literal effects of his criminal life. Dirt and blood. Friend and foe. Same as the brown gloves. He also had shown that he did not fear retribution in assisting with these crimes as he did not wear a mask to hide his identity even when the other criminals did. You could see this as him just not caring or that he never felt that his involvement justified wearing a mask because again "he's just a frog". He really didn't seem to care about much of anything prior to meeting Irene. He was a drifter and a criminal. He did however wish to wear a mask to potentially hide his identity when going to to kill Nino. Also: on him walking up to the glass door at the pizzeria. Another thing I never hear mentioned is the fact that from the parking lot you really can't see inside too well. He may have been walking up there to kill them in the restaurant which is why he walked so close to the door to look inside the whole restaurant. There is also the fact that he more than likely drowned Nino in the ocean (river) just like the scorpion to the frog. Up until that point Nino was the most "scorpion" of the characters. Nino wanted everybody killed because it was in his nature. Bernie even tells Nino that Nino got them all into a big mess and they agree that it could have been avoided but it's in Ninos nature to escalate things. It was also nino that started this whole thing off thinking that he could get away with stealing $1 million from the other family Also during the beach/nino scene with the assumption that the driver is the frog and nino being the criminal scorpion. With this we can also see a contrarian viewpoint that the frog can also chose to drown the scorpion before the scorpion has a chance to sting the frog. Then the frog has the chance to swim away and even get out of the river. At the end of the day all the criminals (driver included) are sharks and it's not just simply different shades of complicit gray in the crime world. All the criminals in the movie commit horrific acts and therefore can be seen as sharks. All looking for there own piece/bite of the pie in whichever way they see fit. Whether it's money or the girl they all kill to keep whats theirs.

@@viiking01 Oh, *very* clever! I like it!

@@viiking01 And here's another one I puzzle over. I don't know whether this is true, but I've read that Nicolas Winding Refn always includes a person on the autism spectrum in his movies - and in Drive, it's supposedly the Driver. Since I'm on the spectrum myself, I'm always interested in seeing people like me on the screen, and I've studied Gosling's performance closely to see if he's playing a man on the spectrum. Now, no two Aspies or auties or whatever you want to call us are alike, and I share almost no traits at all with Driver - but I do see a lot of the better known Aspie traits in him, including his lack of facial expression, his trouble interacting with people even when he likes them - and my favorite: his offering Benecio a toothpick to chew on when he sees the kid looking at *his* toothpick. If Driver *is* an Aspie - an open question - that might be reflected in the kind-vs-violent aspects of his personality. Now, to anyone reading this: please don't think Aspies are typically criminals, sociopaths, or murderers. But some of us do have trouble finding the *finer* lines between right and wrong. We learn as kids not to steal or kill, but someone like Driver might question whether it's really stealing if you only drive the robbers from the scene. Someone like Driver might also question whether it's okay to kill someone to protect someone else - and if it is, how violently you can kill them before you look like a psychopath. (BTW, I think Driver himself knew he went too far in the elevator, but he's had some kind of brutal past that we know nothing about, and he carries much more rage than the typical Aspie). Yes, a lot of Aspies do carry rage. As both children and adults, we get bullied for being "weird," friends drift away from us, and we're constantly being chewed out for doing things wrong when we thought we were being perfectly appropriate. But I've got plenty of rage issues myself, and I don't think I've ever thrown a punch in my life. Driver is *not* the poster child for Aspie rage issues. Still, if you decide he *is* an Aspie, it's possible to see his ultra-violence as a mental health issue rather a trait *of* his autism. It could have developed from the unspecified brutality in his past.

Promoting other channels is kinda gauche but Foldable Human will talk games now and then ;)

@@fwostyshrakes1870 Not only that, Bronson was made with a tiny budget of $230,000. Absolutely incredible.

Daniel Mashanic no, itxs a great movie

Swedish Dixxie where did you get it

Yep

If you like Drive then have a look at Walter Hill`s The Driver and also Thief by Michael Mann.

Basically, if it isn't up, it isn't up for a reason. A lot of my early work isn't very good, and I don't have it available to the public anymore. Sorry.

@@renegadecut9875 oh well, that's ok 👌 Take Care!

@@fwostyshrakes1870 I didn't say it was flagged. I said it isn't up anymore. Read that reply again, I guess.

@@fwostyshrakes1870 It's not worth the risk to dispute the claim on that video, and I'm not going to circumvent the copyright notice by re-uploading it.

Hi Heath. I'm sorry, but I don't take requests.

@@renegadecut9875 Ok, that's cool. Thanks for the response. 😊

+Renegade Cut It's not obscure, it's surreal, you did films like Lost Highway

+Renegade Cut The Usual Suspects

+Renegade Cut The Usual Suspects

The two Ryan movies. I love Drive but yes it does feel like it's based on Walter Hill's late 70s movie The Driver...though that film had a more cops and robbers feel, with Bruce Dern playing the cop going after The Driver, Ryan O'Neal. I don't think that Drive rips off The Driver but perhaps pays a bit of homage to it..the characters are similar but actually O'Neal's character is much more monolithic, more of a mystery and more impervious to those who wish him harm than Ryan Gosling's character who is more vulnerable in a way to the woman and her son, and even the husband who comes home from prison. Drive is also based on the novella by writer James Sallis...don't think The Driver was adapted from a book.

***** Thank you

+420Slaterson It's Godard. Just one D.

Francesco Birsa Alessandri First one, there is no such thing as a one dimensional film. At the very least, film will always be in two dimensions. Also, Goddard did make a 3D movie. I know because I saw it in 3D,

dude. you must be high on the spectre

saintmaster22 If the spectre is refer probably

I'm not a movie reviewer.

@@renegadecut9875 Apologies. Any plans to do to film analysis on older films as previously mentioned? Thank you for your channel.

@@kamuelalee Nope, sorry.

@@renegadecut9875 Me too

Actually, Ghost Dog: the Way of the Samurai is more of a knock off of Le Samourai.

its a ripoff of "the driver"

You're criticising the movie for being similar to a past film. Kind of like how the Dark Knight is a knockoff of Heat. But Drive and TDK both explore different themes and cinematic techniques. All the films are enjoyable in their own right and should be judged on their own merits

- Renegade Cut is the name of the channel - There is no way that anyone could reasonably think that a video lasting eighteen minutes could be a version of this feature-length film - The description explicitly states what this is - This video has been up for six years, and unless I am mistaken, you are the first and only person to think it was a version of the movie Take care.

The Driver hunts one of his targets, suddenly pops out of the dark blue night to attack, and finishes him off in the ocean. Along with Refn saying he wanted to emulate a diver in an ocean of sharks for the first chase, I'm pretty sure Bernie doesn't have a monopoly on the shark motif.

+Renegade Cut I didn't get you. Can you explain?

+Renegade Cut So you are saying that slow motion in this film (specifically) is a perspective rather than reality?

omgsolikevalleygirl because they're not pussies.

But the car chase where he only speeds when it’s necessary is so much better than all the old racing ones.

Anna Catherine Miles are u dumb, this movie was hella good