Repair Cost Are Out of Control: $5,600 Bill for Some Tail Lamps?!

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10 ай бұрын

In this video we show you one example of how repair cost are out of control on modern vehicles nowadays. It is definitely something to consider when purchasing a new vehicle.
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@Mytruck5600tailights
@Mytruck5600tailights 10 ай бұрын
This is my truck. First off, I want to express my gratitude to those who advised me to contact my insurance company. I followed your advice, and Travelers Insurance paid me $5100 since the issue turned out to be water-related. Huge shout out to Travelers! Now, the general consensus around here is that all this safety equipment is unnecessary. However, for me personally, I find the BLISS system quite enjoyable. Living in the Chicago area means dealing with wide tollways, around 4-5 lanes in each direction, where people speed at 80 MPH. But here's the catch, that same 80 MPH traffic can randomly slow down or even come to a halt. I find checking my blind spot monitor on my mirror much safer than looking completely behind me. I would personally be willing to pay $5000 for that extra safety. If I still lived in southwest Missouri, my place of origin, I might skip this particular feature. Driving is less of an extreme sport there, and a simple fender bender wouldn't turn into a gun fight the way it very well could in the Chicago area. I must say, having Brian as my technician is a true blessing. Just two months ago, the folks at the local Ford dealer (HAWK FORD) told me that my truck needed a new front differential. However, Brian correctly diagnosed it as a front wheel bearing issue. Brian undercharges for his expertise, and FORD dramatically overcharges for taillights.
@ian3580
@ian3580 10 ай бұрын
So BOTH lamps had the water intrusion - are the new ones an improved design or is this just a few rainstorms away from paying this again? Direct replacement seems so risky. I think I'd have you try to dry it out and get it working well enough to trade it in and buy something else with repair costs like that. Sorry you had so much trouble but glad to hear insurance covered most of it.
@CrapShackGaming
@CrapShackGaming 10 ай бұрын
Another issue with these tail lamps is that they also get stolen. Make sure you make it difficult to remove the lamps. change the 8mm screws to safety torx and make each one a different size. or your paying 5600 all over again
@northdakotaham1752
@northdakotaham1752 10 ай бұрын
@@ian3580 I was wondering the same thing since they were replaced with OEM units.
@johnkaltinger3922
@johnkaltinger3922 10 ай бұрын
I'm so sorry for you
@konstantintomilin1826
@konstantintomilin1826 10 ай бұрын
I wouldn't pay 5000 for an entire car even though I can afford a new truck like yours :) Glad you were able to pass the cost onto the insurance though!
@jasontetlow
@jasontetlow 9 ай бұрын
This is an incredibly compelling case to avoid modern vehicles.
@TheInsultInvestor
@TheInsultInvestor 8 ай бұрын
im currently driving a 1000$ suburban with a 454, gas price is ok since I got it so cheap and fix myself
@elxero2189
@elxero2189 8 ай бұрын
Amen to that
@superbroadcaster
@superbroadcaster 8 ай бұрын
​@@TheInsultInvestorAnd on top of that, you're not paying thousands for a tail light repair
@superbroadcaster
@superbroadcaster 8 ай бұрын
@@jisezer That's an excuse to enable dealerships. Just because you can afford something doesn't mean it's a worthwhile product.
@robertmorrison107
@robertmorrison107 8 ай бұрын
@@jisezer Watching this makes having an 86 Dodge D100 still more reasonable.
@Commanderziff
@Commanderziff 7 ай бұрын
My truck is 25 years old, the thought of getting something 'modern' is terrifying. Everything in our system today is designed to squeeze the customer dry. He paid more for these taillights then I paid for my whole truck.
@richardisner3671
@richardisner3671 6 ай бұрын
The customer paid as much for one taillight cover that I paid for my car.
@sammythompson3694
@sammythompson3694 5 ай бұрын
I recently rebuilt my transmission on 2000 Silverado for 1700. When dealing with transmission shops never say rebuild it say replace the worn parts. Unfortunately my truck has 311, 563 miles so everything was worn out. In a few years I will probably need an engine, but if I do it now I can get a crate engine installed for 1200. My tires cost 225 for 4 tires can't beat these costs with a stick. Today a scratched up pickup truck with 300k miles is worth 3k, but a repaint, new driver seat, new tinted windshield, tint the other glass, install power windows in a standard truck, $600 white letter tires, front end replaced, rear rebuilt and a new transmission is worth 7k for a 23 year old pickup.
@darryllspalding9680
@darryllspalding9680 5 ай бұрын
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@darryllspalding9680
@darryllspalding9680 5 ай бұрын
to much uneeded garbage in modern vehicles, all distracting to regular commuters and even drivers. keep it simple cnuts, designing these things for terminators?
@user-lp2bh9db7p
@user-lp2bh9db7p 2 ай бұрын
I totally agree. I'm even looking into hoarding some donor trucks for spare parts before things get too crazy. I went Cummins diesel and will never look back.
@bobkathrynalbin3697
@bobkathrynalbin3697 8 ай бұрын
1157 lamps used to cost $.65 and were easily replaced. Sure miss those days.
@ohjasonj
@ohjasonj 6 ай бұрын
I smashed a tail light on my '09 Pilot (barely 100k miles) and replaced it in 5 min with a $35 complete assembly. I would never buy a new truck. I drive in L.A. and haven't needed ten computers telling me what's in my mirrors.
@MarkoS1952
@MarkoS1952 6 ай бұрын
Ditto that. and the amber ones were #1156 if i remember correctly.
@jerryjeromehawkins1712
@jerryjeromehawkins1712 5 ай бұрын
​@MarkoS1952 lol... just bought some for my old jeep the other day. Two Phillips head screws... pop them in, done. 👍🏾
@brandonmacon3317
@brandonmacon3317 5 ай бұрын
Lmao I still buy them and they haven't been 65 cents in decades
@cubey
@cubey 5 ай бұрын
So buy something old. Or can you not live without heated mirrors and butt massager?
@zachbruner481
@zachbruner481 10 ай бұрын
I can imagine the look on a customers face when they are told their truck won’t start because their tail lights are bad 😂
@ftffighter
@ftffighter 10 ай бұрын
That reminds me of the Chrysler Lebaron Convertible and it's electrical nightmares! Back in the day, Chrysler(Much deserved) got lots of flak for their electrical design faults. Ford shouldn't be given a pass as well, there should be no way a tail light could've caused this much damage. That's just not right at all. FordTechMakuloco is a serious lifesaver!
@zachbruner481
@zachbruner481 10 ай бұрын
@@ftffighter worse part is reliability is rapidly declining
@malekodesouza7255
@malekodesouza7255 10 ай бұрын
@@zachbruner481while prices increase exponentially. Utterly ridiculous.Fix Or Repair Daily. But Chevy/GMC and Dodge/Chrysler are no different.🙄
@ihavethedocuments2580
@ihavethedocuments2580 10 ай бұрын
​@@malekodesouza7255They are now.
@MattJonesYT
@MattJonesYT 10 ай бұрын
They got filled up with blinker fluid
@belindakt
@belindakt 10 ай бұрын
Been a shop owner for 50 something years, ive watched this coming. The very reason i drive a 95 bronco, and a 74 f100. Truly out of control....
@GL0697
@GL0697 10 ай бұрын
50 YEARS!!!! Hat's off to you, I bet you have stories to tell.
@volatile2805
@volatile2805 10 ай бұрын
I hear you there. Fellow independent tech for the last 18 years now. Drive a carb'd ram with a 5 speed, in perfect shape as my work truck. 97 ram sport 1500 i retrofitted. Kept enough of the wire harness for the o2 sensors and gauges but slapped a carb and a classic distributor on it. I live in a free state.
@doughurt2979
@doughurt2979 10 ай бұрын
I'm with you. I drive a 1993 Crown Victoria & a 2000 F250 7.3L I can and do fix them myself in the driveway!🔧
@epstein_isnt_dead7726
@epstein_isnt_dead7726 10 ай бұрын
​@@doughurt297905 Taurus as the daily driver. But have a 73 Fleetwood with a 472 and positraction and a 79 sedan DeVille with a 425 in the driveway. Besides the body and trim, completely interchangeable parts as they're both using the 372/425/472/500 Cadillac engine block and th400 trans
@NYPATRIOTBX
@NYPATRIOTBX 10 ай бұрын
I have an 02 sequoia with 245k and runs like a champ.I came across a 351w and a ZF6 speed I plan to put in a bull nose pickup. Def want a truck that is all analog. At least I’ll be able to repair it myself without having to worry about computers.
@willmegehee
@willmegehee 6 ай бұрын
My daughter’s 2016 King Ranch just had this issue. Thank you for sharing information on this! I was able to dry everything out and then ran the sensor and the taillight through our LEM dehydrator at 100 degrees for a few hours to completely dry everything out. Cleaned up the connector pins and added some dielectric grease on all connections and gaskets. I was stunned that it was enough to resolve the issue. I disconnected the battery overnight also hoping to reset everything I could. Everything came back online! I almost cried. What a relief. Automatic running boards, air conditioning fan and buttons, radio controls, side mirror controls, seat memory buttons, driver door front window controls, seat massager, oh and the blind spot monitor. Insane what is so intermangled. It’s basically a modern computer network. If there is ever an EMP event these vehicles are down.
@fukhue8226
@fukhue8226 Ай бұрын
Yes it is a modern computer network in your car, and that is complete nonsense. They went to the moon in 1969 with a lot of Analog computing power. You could virtually beat it with a hammer and it would still work. Now it takes nothing to disrupt Digital Equipment. Just some noise in the power supplies voltage output to the computer can cause a failure.
@TexasAggie10
@TexasAggie10 6 сағат бұрын
I have a 2015 king ranch. RH tail light has moisture, blind spot and cross traffic faults. Dealer wants $2k to replace it. I'm going to try something similar to what you've shared here. If that doesn't work maybe buy parts and do the job myself. Some programming required with Forscan. Thanks for sharing!
@KrazeeCain
@KrazeeCain 9 ай бұрын
The shared network stuff is crazy to me. A while back I fixed a newer dodge ram that wouldn't start because the TPMS module (mounted behind the front bumper) had failed and was shorting a network line to 12v. I think the critical stuff like ECU, TCU and key module should be on their own network. Your vehicle shouldn't die because an unnecessary module near the exterior was damaged!
@UmbraWeiss
@UmbraWeiss 9 ай бұрын
That shared network is a good thing, it's easy too use, and diagnose things, in most cases.... the stupid way they design things to fail is what is crazy, they probably knew exactly what will happen, and designed it too fail way after warranty... and probably this same thing will be in their next car too.
@dougfredricks2017
@dougfredricks2017 6 ай бұрын
​@@UmbraWeisstoo many points of failure in these Trash 🚙 vehicles
@fukhue8226
@fukhue8226 Ай бұрын
Yes it should. It's another Money Maker! If you think $80,000 is all the money Ford wants to make on each Raptor Truck they sell your dreaming. $80,000 is just the start!
@darrininverarity4297
@darrininverarity4297 25 күн бұрын
This is why i drive beaters.
@mirokefurt4740
@mirokefurt4740 10 ай бұрын
This should be reported to NHTSA and at minimum there should be a recall.
@mikenismogtr
@mikenismogtr 9 ай бұрын
indeed. if that knocks the can bus out mid driving you can lose control of your vehicle.
@LukemDakuwa
@LukemDakuwa 9 ай бұрын
Imagine thinking an authority is going to communicate with another authority that some tiny little consumer has an issue they want them to fix. Total the car and buy something you can pop the hood and fix yourself. Tons of videos breaking down cars simply.
@jasonashley9853
@jasonashley9853 9 ай бұрын
Oh there likely will be a recall.
@joefish6091
@joefish6091 9 ай бұрын
@@mikenismogtr As was done to Max Hastings in 2013. RIP.
@levtsarev
@levtsarev 9 ай бұрын
Hundreds of vehicles need to start appearing with this issue for a recall to be ordered. The BLIS module is not a legally-required function. If the water causes the taillight to malfunction, that is a legal issue, however not recall-worthy. I wonder if the water intrusion occurred from the weld of the lamp or the seal on the bracket for the BLIS module. If within the warranty window, a dealer would replace this free of charge. That's why extended warranties are so key on modern vehicles, especially ones with loads of features.
@enjoylifeyolo73
@enjoylifeyolo73 10 ай бұрын
You know something is wrong when labor/diagnoses costs are the smallest charge on the repair bill!!!
@VgnMuscle
@VgnMuscle 9 ай бұрын
😄
@feedbackzaloop
@feedbackzaloop 9 ай бұрын
No, it's absolutely ok. Meaning most of the work is already done at development of diagnostics, workplace setup and part procurement. This is how it happens in real sector. It is the total value still being a problem.
@feedbackzaloop
@feedbackzaloop 9 ай бұрын
@peek5548 you know you kinda contradict yourself here, right? If the labor is expensive, but the sum is small - means work did not take long. Must be good, right? Or would you rather work your a$$ off for a taillight instead of something useful? Now that is "not ok, but you do you" situation here.
@Andy-im3kj
@Andy-im3kj 9 ай бұрын
I remember buying parts at reasonable prices with my dad for our cars and it was always a nice little bonding moment for us. Can you guys imagine a kid watching their dad realizing the repair cost is something so unimaginable that the cost is insane and is more than what it costs to work on it. I think where the automotive industry is heading towards is not good at all.
@jamesdagmond
@jamesdagmond 7 ай бұрын
Small cars are still cheap to fix but everyone wants a 70,000$ vehicle they can hardly afford to drive.
@crxdelsolsir
@crxdelsolsir 6 ай бұрын
We are already there and deeper than many realise. In the future a car will be written off/junked on previously considered no big deal like windscreen, keys, bumper and computer module etc.
@stephenmanion3418
@stephenmanion3418 7 ай бұрын
good luck finding a guy like him to work on it.!!!!!!!!!!
@davidnorbertpenn
@davidnorbertpenn 10 ай бұрын
Those parts prices are criminal. Unbelievable.
@davidhollenshead4892
@davidhollenshead4892 10 ай бұрын
Why didn't he buy all the parts from a quality auto dismantler as they would have been about 25% of the price of new??? Okay, the taillight lens would have cost up to 50% of the price of new if they were in perfect condition...
@LPMutagen
@LPMutagen 10 ай бұрын
Don't know about this Ford truck but with a lot of cars now electronic parts off another car will not work even if same year, make, model. Friend of mine owns a shop and customer bought a headlight off eBay that worked on the bench but would not work in the car because only the dealer can program the car to accept the new parts and they won't do that unless you bought the parts from them. Because "liability." Edit: I forgot to mention one headlight from the dealer was $3500 and his eBay headlight cost $800.
@Chef-James
@Chef-James 10 ай бұрын
My '98 Ranger XLT 4.0 supercab with the automatic and AC was under 20k out the door. That included a deluxe color matched cap and some other bits. Wish I had bought two of them and stashed one.
@MH-YouTube-Controlled
@MH-YouTube-Controlled 10 ай бұрын
$100,000 for a pickup truck is a stupidity test.
@Mytruck5600tailights
@Mytruck5600tailights 10 ай бұрын
The truck was $68,000. I still have the window sticker. I’ve enjoyed the truck. I can afford the truck. It’s unclear why people are angry at me for driving a F-150. 😂🤷
@dirtytsfarm2141
@dirtytsfarm2141 10 ай бұрын
And this is why all my cars are over 20 years old. As my grandpa used to say that's just more stuff to go wrong. Side note: You've saved me thousands in repairs over the years sir, thanks for doing what you do 👍🏻
@glennjarvis2672
@glennjarvis2672 10 ай бұрын
Me as well. I see more vehicles less than 5 years old either going up in flames on the side of the road or hooked up to a tow truck heading to a shop/dealership.
@censored4christ162
@censored4christ162 10 ай бұрын
I disagree. The problem is old vehicles suck. Theres a line between old and still capable and super affordable, compared to old and worn out. Do you really want to trust 20+ year old airbags to cushion your head and prevent brain injury.
@VikingDudee
@VikingDudee 10 ай бұрын
​@@censored4christ162 Super affordable? Yeah no.... I'll take my air bagless 91 c1500 and 92 silverado over anything that you consider super affordable thats going to need to be replaced at less than 150k miles....
@denialphasebitcoin5639
@denialphasebitcoin5639 10 ай бұрын
I worked on diesels, will not trade in my 2003 dodge Cummins. Much less emissions, 3200 rpm diesel. Detroit diesel 6-71 and 8-92's had 2100 max rpms. Million mile engines, we're not uncommon.
@umajunkcollector
@umajunkcollector 10 ай бұрын
Pray 1990, before OBaD. The hard part is rust, many old cars were rust buckets. Find a barn car in Kansas, but they're getting scarce.
@tomhunter3063
@tomhunter3063 8 күн бұрын
Congratulations to Brian, top tech who knows how to diagnose a failure rather than sending it back to the dealer, 👍
@MQBeukema
@MQBeukema 3 ай бұрын
As a tech, I appreciate that you appreciate the walk through of your diagnosis. I love that you help others learn and grow through your channel!
@miketeeveedub5779
@miketeeveedub5779 10 ай бұрын
Ford Truck LTD owner:" My truck doesn't start! Can you fix it?" Ford Mechanic: "Absolutely! We just need to change your taillights - that'll be $5600 please." No shade thrown at Brian - he located the fault and provided the fix. It just ridiculous at how expensive it has become to fix these technological terrors. Thanks for the 'enlightening' video good Sir!
@williamchristenbury1774
@williamchristenbury1774 10 ай бұрын
This just reinforces my decision to keep my 2011 F150.
@xXFirstHandGamerMatt
@xXFirstHandGamerMatt 10 ай бұрын
​@williamchristenbury1774 exactly right I'm staying with the 04, that 3 valve
@volvo09
@volvo09 10 ай бұрын
Imagine being told that 20 years ago, that TAIL LIGHTS caused a no crank... Insane.
@fredmartinez4248
@fredmartinez4248 10 ай бұрын
​@@williamchristenbury1774my 2011 5.0 just hit 300k miles im keeping it too
@drewthompson7457
@drewthompson7457 10 ай бұрын
@@williamchristenbury1774 : I had a "97 Safari that broke every time I used it. Back in about 2003, the fuel pump went low pressure. No problem. It's inside the gas tank, and was only $842, in a box. I did the labour. The water pump started leaking, followed by the alternator failing, which took the battery with it. I noticed the brakes were making noise. The front rotors wore down to the point where they couldn't be turned, followed by the rear brakes having the fiction material break loose. ( riveted, in '97?)The rear doors leaked. The power windows failed, withing days of each other. The rear heater failed. The front blower failed. Of course the armrest wore out. There were likely other failures too. I had much better luck with a LADA. At least when it broke, you could get to the parts, and they were cheap. Oh, and it was the last GM I'll own.
@wornoutwrench8128
@wornoutwrench8128 10 ай бұрын
Two things to say 1) Boy, am I ever glad that I retired and don't have to deal with crap like this. 2) Boy am I ever glad that I retired and don't have to deal with stuff like this. I want to buy a new truck, I no longer have the confidence to go out and spend more then what I paid for my house to buy problems like this.
@censored4christ162
@censored4christ162 10 ай бұрын
Just buy a 2007 honda accord sedan with a v6
@edwardspaccarelli5944
@edwardspaccarelli5944 10 ай бұрын
So nice, you had to say it twice.
@Nothingtoya
@Nothingtoya 10 ай бұрын
​@Stratoliner5that's what I've decided to do. I'm not a Ford guy but you can't get something as simple and easy to work on than the Panther cars.
@gillisBR549
@gillisBR549 10 ай бұрын
Yessir!! I’ll stick with my 72 , 87 models!!
@RangerGorde
@RangerGorde 8 ай бұрын
I retired after 12+ years, from managing test labs at the biggest IT company on the planet, Before that I did 26+ years as a certified master mechanic, Diagnosis and test methodologies are my thing, either in the lab, the shop or at the race track. No doubt these sensors add safety and peace of mind in brain numbing traffic of today, but the cost to repair one failed items is also why I make bank restoring and building older vehicles for customers. I add in many modern items like fuel injection, brake systems and audio/video systems to give some of the bells and whistles these new rides have but without all the CAN-BUSS headaches that, like this issue can cascade through-out the other systems. I must tip my hat to Brian - he really earns his pay! Techs like him are hard to find and keep, Hope you all appreciate the effort he has put into becoming a fantastic FoMoCo (and I bet many others makers rides) technician! Well Done Sir-- WELL DONE!
@jeffwhite3679
@jeffwhite3679 9 ай бұрын
I think I will look for a 1995 model year for my next F150. I've had problems with the PATS in my 2010 F150 XLT. Ford is obviously hiring former F35 design engineers to put all of this technology in their vehicles. Unfortunately most of us owners don't have almost unlimited funds to keep our vehicles running like the military spends on the F35. Water getting into a taillight housing is not exactly an unexpected occurrence but obviously the engineers who designed it never thought it could happen.
@doomguy584
@doomguy584 7 ай бұрын
I got a 96 ford f150 2wd standard shift 300cid
@jrolivo
@jrolivo 10 ай бұрын
It’s insane how complicated things have become
@brian2591
@brian2591 10 ай бұрын
Gotta have all those fancy cab luxuries 🙄
@xlargetophat
@xlargetophat 10 ай бұрын
They force you to want them
@oldcarnocar
@oldcarnocar 10 ай бұрын
@@xlargetophat it used to be, power steering/brakes, a/c auto tranny were all u need(its all i need).
@xlargetophat
@xlargetophat 10 ай бұрын
@@oldcarnocar yeah. A new EV with 1 motor.. no AC or heater. No sensors. Just battery management and battery cooling.
@tomstarcevich1147
@tomstarcevich1147 10 ай бұрын
Ram 1500 classic simple truck no problems 😊 🛻👍
@randallbergen7065
@randallbergen7065 10 ай бұрын
That is why you should always look at the cost of the sales package items prior to buying that “high end” vehicle. When I was looking for my new 2017 F-150 I stayed away from the upper level trucks. The fancy light option was $4600. That tells you how much the replacement parts will cost.
@CynHicks
@CynHicks 10 ай бұрын
The more expensive the parts the more expensive to replace; the more complex the part the more points of failure. There's really no way around this unless you're getting even more expensive parts with better durability and testing along with warranty.
@luckyguy600
@luckyguy600 10 ай бұрын
Just price out any electrical light bulb for a modern vehicle/ as compared to the old days. Yes. But they are so much better today. Yes. look at the price and the potential money pit you could wind up in. High tech/ high cost.
@seanbatiz6620
@seanbatiz6620 9 ай бұрын
As an experienced technician myself, since 1995, I concur this sentiment but, still wager it’s all relative, in the bigger picture of how things tend to be.. take for example, damned near any vehicles made during the 1950’s that offered bells & whistle exotic features like, Wonderbar Auto-Tuner Radio, Autronic Eye auto dimming system, Air Conditioning, Cruise Control, etc., etc.. it’s been somewhat a rare occurrence to even come across these vehicles WITH these options/features but, incredibly rare for ANY of these options/features to STILL BE FUNCTIONAL, as whenever those originally had issues, customers back in the day, most often just ignored getting them fixed, when told how much repairs would cost them then. Big obvious difference tho of course, one could continue operating those vehicles for decades later, without any of those problems affecting the running/driving of the cars… this “integration” factor, seemed to become more seeded in with the auto industry @ 1993-on; gradually becoming what it is these days. I need a PHD to diagnose these modern things! Have considered implementing the word, “Practice” in shop name! 😂🤪
@Dulc3B00kbyBrant0n
@Dulc3B00kbyBrant0n 9 ай бұрын
how else can u severely blind anyone else not in a big ass truck
@phr3ui559
@phr3ui559 9 ай бұрын
@@seanbatiz6620 yes
@markwilliams6378
@markwilliams6378 7 ай бұрын
When I asked my insurance company why my premiums are skyrocketing this was one of the reasons. I have no tickets for 15 years
@williammurphy6104
@williammurphy6104 3 ай бұрын
My wife got into an accident going about 20mph in our Ford CMax Energy 2017. It had a crinkle in the hood, cracked bumper cover, damage to the crash bumper, core support, snap in replaceable radiator post, and the headlight was cracked. The car was totaled. They wrote me a check for $13k after taking some off so I could keep the car. A new headlight was a $1200-2000 depending on where it came from. I bought a used one with a broken mounting tab for $500, bought a core support for $60 shipped, crash bumper $70 shipped, $15 for the radiator post, straightened out the hood myself, scraped off the cracked paint, sanded the bare metal and feathered the sanding into the good paint and then hit it with touch up spray paint. I gave the bumper cover zip tie stitches and then bought a car bra for $100 the bra covers all the damaged areas. Also the paint cracked on the fender at the edge so I had to sand that down and hit it with touch up paint. Luckily it was only 20mm X 5mm area so it doesn’t look awful. I spent less than $1000 to get it back on the road and about 20HRs of time. I will be on the lookout for a used gray front bumper cover and hood but am in absolutely no rush. If it takes me 5 years to find them then it takes 5 years.
@azjohn520
@azjohn520 10 ай бұрын
As a former Ford dealership gas and diesel driveability guy, much respect to you for sharing all that you do. If I had a dollar for every time someone assumed a scan tool “told” a mechanic how to fix a vehicle….. you proved why there’s a difference between a technician and a parts changer.
@ginog5037
@ginog5037 10 ай бұрын
Stealerships are completely useless today, most can barely do a oil change 🙄
@ljprep6250
@ljprep6250 10 ай бұрын
@@ginog5037 Yet they get $150/hr to do so poorly.
@ginog5037
@ginog5037 10 ай бұрын
@@ljprep6250 Absolutely paying some kid who couldn't care less about your $30-100k ride...
@Jeo-fq1zw
@Jeo-fq1zw 10 ай бұрын
It would be so much easier to change a SIMPLE part.
@FixItPleaseJ
@FixItPleaseJ 10 ай бұрын
A precomputer truck would have just blown away fuse when the bulb socket got wet.
@volvo09
@volvo09 10 ай бұрын
Boy am i glad my 18 xlt dosen't have all the bells and whistles... Incandescent bulbs suddenly become cool again. 😂
@J.W.W.
@J.W.W. 10 ай бұрын
2019 XLT here also, smarter buy than the platinum and limited long term!
@mbrick
@mbrick 10 ай бұрын
I think the issue is from the BLIS modules in particular that require can bus... but yes.
@lawnside82
@lawnside82 10 ай бұрын
Regular striped work stx / LT trucks are looking very cool. Its just a truck. Dont need all the bells n whistles. Just work.
@jimiguitar3252
@jimiguitar3252 10 ай бұрын
I really miss my '96 Bronco. 155k, engine, trans, trans case all trouble free. But body rot, dead leaf springs, and other deteriorating body parts made me give it up.
@larrymashburn7789
@larrymashburn7789 10 ай бұрын
@J.W.W. I think platinum and limited are great if you get a new truck every year. If you keep for decades at a time, go with the one that has less systems that may fail
@SRMitchell91
@SRMitchell91 6 ай бұрын
Showing this video to my high school auto shop students in our electrical unit. True diag separates the technician from the mechanic. Well done.
@danwilson1060
@danwilson1060 9 ай бұрын
Nice to someone actually troubleshoot and not just throw parts at it first! I’ll always keep my ‘96 Chevy to back up my new cars and trucks.
@wilmarbarrick3194
@wilmarbarrick3194 10 ай бұрын
Hard to believe he'd be the only one. I would tell him to keep the receipt in case a safety recall gets issued .
@antcrow7424
@antcrow7424 10 ай бұрын
Won't do any good. Ford won't honor their recalls. December of 2021 and July of 2022 my wife's 2017 Ford Edge had grommet failures on the shift linkage. The recall came out right after I had the same 2nd repair done by a local transmission shop. I had rental car fees, plus the cost of the tranny shop repairs. I spoke with our local Ford dealership about the repairs in October of 2022 and they said, bring in the receipts and will forward them too Ford headquarters, they will reimburse you. This October will be 1 year and I haven't heard 💩💩!! Also, August of last year she had a recall on the flex plate for cracking or breaking. The deadline was March 1st of this year to get it checked. We took it in February 2nd, because the wife said it was making the noise the recall paperwork described? I don't drive her car, unless she points something out. I heard the noise, took it too the same dealership I mentioned above. Their mechanic said that's normal sound coming from the vehicle??? Wtf?? Anyways, I blame myself for not going to another dealer or transmission shop. March 2023, came and went. In April we made a trip down too Cincinnati, Ohio from Michigan and thankfully made it back! The Edge was making such a loud clanking noise, you couldn't hear yourself think. Got home, took it too the same dealership. They wanted $5K to replace the flex plate?? I said, we had it here back in February because it was starting to make a slight noise & you said it was normal. Here I am with your normal broken noise now!! They said, sorry, recall won't cover that. It was just a generous recall they sent out. That's why it had a deadline. I was pissed!! I had it hauled to the transmission shop where I had the grommet fixed. They charged me $1500.00 dollar's. I was pleased with that. They fixed the flex plate, but now the auto start/stop doesn't work anymore. Anyways, Ford doesn't stand behind their vehicles.
@tectalabyss
@tectalabyss 10 ай бұрын
i have sent Ford a few letters. Do you think they would answer a pee ant like me. That would be a hell no.
@AT-wl9yq
@AT-wl9yq 10 ай бұрын
@@antcrow7424You really didn't have to pay anyone to do the shifting linkage recall. It only takes a couple of minutes. An oil change is more complicated. Either way, I'll show you how to get some leverage if your dealer is playing games with you. You need to take your vehicle in for something. It doesn't mater what it is. Take it in for an oil change, or complain about a rattle that would be covered under warranty. The main goal is to get the dealer to print a new RO for whatever you take your vehicle in for. Every time a new RO is printed, a survey is automatically triggered with Ford. The dealer can't do anything about it. Sometimes its a phone survey, or email, or whatever. Its the ones where the salesperson is always begging you to give 10's on, if you were happy with how you were treated. You would not believe how serious they take these surveys. Even one bad survey is a really big deal. I've seen them close the entire service department down in the middle of the day, and they gather every employee in a big room, and management starts yelling at everyone. Not every dealer gets treated the same way. For example, if the dealer screws up, Ford can make things more difficult by making the pre approval process on certain jobs more difficult. The point is, there are all kinds of things that go on internally, that the customers are never aware of. These surveys tie into all that. There are 2 levels you can take it. Threating to give a bad survey would have most likely been enough to get your transmission fixed. The next level is more serious. If the dealer tampers with the survey process in order to hide things from Ford, its a big deal. If you don't get a new RO (or any RO) every time you go in, that's a problem. Sometimes they keep the RO's open and use the same number for several visits, or give you better pricing for a high score. Anything like that is survey tampering. The last time I saw someone get caught tampering, it was a 50 thousand dollar fine. There should be enough information in this post for you to come up with something so you don't continue to get screwed over by a dealer. Also, unfortunately all dealers are different. You will not get the same answer at every dealer you go to. Sometimes a dealer will want a certain type of job, where another won't. If you think you are not getting the right answer, try different places. You can take you F150 to any dealership in the country, including a Lincoln only shop. Most of my time with Ford has been at Lincoln. You just get better service. They have higher standards. We get a lot of Mustangs, and similar types of Ford branded vehicles because they don't want a bunch of kids at a quick lane fooling with their cars.
@justlg3359
@justlg3359 10 ай бұрын
This is why I stick to old Gen reliable models of ford, these new vehicles are such problems with so many sensor and so expensive. It's just more money for ford
@stephencooper4987
@stephencooper4987 10 ай бұрын
​@anthonycrowder7424 you need to STOP going to that dealership and find another. Even if it's an inconvenient for you.
@invictusaeternum
@invictusaeternum 9 ай бұрын
What's sick to me, is Ford might even refuse to update the part because that would be some admission of guilt and initiate a recall.
@pentastarveesyx8506
@pentastarveesyx8506 9 ай бұрын
That would only be the 45th recall this month by ford, why would that be a problem 😂
@countryjoe3551
@countryjoe3551 9 ай бұрын
It sounds like all it would really take is some dialectric grease on all the connectors......
@bigpatty823
@bigpatty823 7 ай бұрын
People say this all the time, but it's wrong. FRE 407 prohibits subsequent remedial measures from being introduced as evidence of culpability or negligence.
@invictusaeternum
@invictusaeternum 7 ай бұрын
@@bigpatty823 You have taught me something today and I am grateful you took the time to do so.
@arbiter1
@arbiter1 7 ай бұрын
They will update it but then not say anything about it.
@AllWriteSoft
@AllWriteSoft 9 ай бұрын
The new vehicles are so expensive because they are sticking mini datacenters in there. With manufacturers knowing that you would think that weatherproofing would be more of a concern, but then again you won't get to sell as many parts. Well executed and methodical troubleshooting on your part!
@DaniilAKein
@DaniilAKein 8 ай бұрын
Thank you for your work, man! There are cases in US called “right to repair”. I guess it was connected with Apple and John Deere. In both cases the manufacturer over complicated to ability to repair their product. USA is a great country for protecting customer against those practices, so I guess in the future more cases like yours will appear with many products. So eventually consumers and fair craftsman like you will be protected from mess like this. We just need to make those problems public. Like you do. So you are not only repairing a truck, you are changing the future. So thank you!
@jonsaircond8520
@jonsaircond8520 10 ай бұрын
This is why no matter the cost repairs on my old vehicles it's worth fixing. This one repair cost almost as much as the vehicle I've had for the last 8 years. I don't have all these fancy gadgets but I save tons over vehicles like this
@dylanrampage9360
@dylanrampage9360 10 ай бұрын
And at the end of day it accomplishes the same goal; IT GETS YOU FROM POINT A TO POINT B.
@gsxellence
@gsxellence 10 ай бұрын
Amen
@jamesgizasson
@jamesgizasson 10 ай бұрын
100%! My old Ram is ugly, but if I keep it maintained, it will keep running. It will be a treasured antique long after these modern vehicles have been recycled.
@CrowCreekOutdoors
@CrowCreekOutdoors 10 ай бұрын
Same here.
@northdakotaham1752
@northdakotaham1752 10 ай бұрын
​@@jamesgizassonever check what those "old" Rams are selling for? My old 87 Power Ram in good condition, others asking about $25k for it. Mine isn't for sale.
@tedb4254
@tedb4254 10 ай бұрын
Nice work diagnosing! Now I know why they are getting totaled with minor damage! Absolutely insane!!!
@iam1smiley1
@iam1smiley1 9 ай бұрын
Yup! Lots of vehicles getting written off at our bodyshop with minor looking damage but due to over complication will go to autowrecker. How is that saving the environment, if that's the road they say we're on? We'll all be riding donkeys again soon 😂
@dfgyuhdd
@dfgyuhdd 9 ай бұрын
That's part of the reason. Over the years insurance companies (technically insurance boards) changed the defintion of what "totaled" means.
@Amor1990
@Amor1990 9 ай бұрын
Yup. It seems like insurance companies no longer fix cars. They just total everything out
@DUCKSAREEVILLLLLLLL
@DUCKSAREEVILLLLLLLL 9 ай бұрын
But, new cars are so gentle on the environment. Like the coal powered Teslas that must be grasped by large fossil fueled powered machine claws and plopped into a semi trailer sized aquarium of water for days after they catch on fire. Very practical.
@DUCKSAREEVILLLLLLLL
@DUCKSAREEVILLLLLLLL 9 ай бұрын
@@Amor1990 Especially with an EV. One tiny rupture in a battery could mean an entire condo goes up in flames.
@shanedavenport734
@shanedavenport734 7 ай бұрын
That diagnoses was all knowledge and experience. No dumb luck involved or needed.
@db45acp89
@db45acp89 17 күн бұрын
Thank you sincerely for taking the time to make this and a couple of more associated videos. It saved be a lot of money. Bushings were $7.00 from Auto Zone and the few hours of my own time saved $600 from the local wrench's estimate to replace the complete shifter tube. I smoothed out the tube where the bushings are located under the clamps, removing the casting marks and rough spots which helped chew up the original bushings. I also applied a little White Lithium grease on the tube where the bushings ride and it shifts like new.
@helifynoe9930
@helifynoe9930 10 ай бұрын
I am now 66 years old, and have been watching tons of car crash videos, and while doing so became shocked at seeing many cars being simply written off due to ridiculous repair costs. What would cost say $100 in my younger days, could be up $10,000 today. Ah yes, I also recall way back when, that you could even purchase a Honda Civic for $2,000 CAD.
@joshnabours9102
@joshnabours9102 10 ай бұрын
$100 from 1963 is worth about $1000 in todays money. So yeah, even accounting for the ~900% price increase due to inflation from then this type of repair would still be 5 1/2 times more expensive than back then.
@jackylsmith8138
@jackylsmith8138 10 ай бұрын
Back when there were no safety crash standards. Yes all you would need was a new bumper for $100, but you weee in the hospital for a week from injuries sustained in the crash. Today the vehicle takes all the damage and you walk away un injured
@jackylsmith8138
@jackylsmith8138 10 ай бұрын
The real problem is Ford using an inferior tail lamp that leets rain water in. My 2016 Lariat was having the same issues. I was lucky, my cost was $0. My diagnosis was to unplug the white connector under the truck near the spare tire. All the warnings shut off. You cannot drive it because you have no tail lights with that unplugged. I took off my rear passenger tail lamp, shook all the water out of it, left it in the sun for 12 hours, made sure everything was good and dry. Put back together and works perfectly. I did do something’s to stop the water, but Ford needs better parts. I remember when Quality Was Job 1.
@joshnabours9102
@joshnabours9102 10 ай бұрын
profit in the short term is job number 1 now. @@jackylsmith8138
@nasilemak868
@nasilemak868 10 ай бұрын
​@@jackylsmith8138you won't be in a crash because your newer car with all these crap electronics can't be started at all
@Dailyfiver
@Dailyfiver 10 ай бұрын
This is exactly why I drive a 2000 Lexus ES300 and a 1996 Ford E250 with an I6. I literally couldn’t afford a new vehicle, let alone the repairs! I’m only 25 and I could already see the writing on the wall with newer cars as time went on. Absolutely tragic. Pretty soon the car market is going to look like the farmer’s tractor market. Old tractors you can work on go for twice as much as new tractors with failing computers.
@scotthorning1180
@scotthorning1180 9 ай бұрын
I will not drive a vehicle less than 15 years old… ever.
@SepticFuddy
@SepticFuddy 8 ай бұрын
@@scotthorning1180 pushin 20 years and I dread the thought of having to "upgrade" someday. They've been putting out some real garbage for a long time now.
@wayneroberts557
@wayneroberts557 26 күн бұрын
I have the same truck same year and the same issue luckily it was still under warranty.The dealer replaced everything including sensors over 5000$ in parts alone also had to have the timing chain and cam phasers replaced at 60,000 miles that was 4000$ unbelievable they did warranty everything but still ridiculous
@nischalrana1666
@nischalrana1666 9 ай бұрын
Crazy to think I paid exactly the same amount for a near mint 2011 Ford Focus with 55K miles 6 years ago as one F150 tail lamp! Currently at 165K trouble free miles with minimal maintenance done as my daily beater car. Everything is overly complicated these days.
@jass7981
@jass7981 10 ай бұрын
I had this happen on my truck and fixed it for $200. The OEM LED taillights are known to crack and let in moisture which causes all electronics to go haywire. I ordered a set of aftermarket lights on eBay, plugged them in, and unprogrammed BLIS and rear cross traffic alert via forscan. Do NOT plug in the BLIS modules to your new aftermarket tails. Worked perfect and much better than spending $7,000 Canadian.
@dartanyonwilliams681
@dartanyonwilliams681 10 ай бұрын
Love FORSCAN I got it for my 13 F150 totally worth it.
@rickreese5794
@rickreese5794 10 ай бұрын
Smart man 😊
@ironicalitis1048
@ironicalitis1048 10 ай бұрын
To much money man
@pbear216
@pbear216 10 ай бұрын
Better yet, just don't buy Ford junk!
@Nothingtoya
@Nothingtoya 10 ай бұрын
​@pbear216 all these auto makers order parts from the same people. This is why everything has electric power steering, the modules are made by the same companies. This was proven while TFL was messing around with awd systems on small suv's. It's all junk nowadays, they just look slightly different.
@SmittySmithsonite
@SmittySmithsonite 10 ай бұрын
This is exactly why I took my 2007 Silverado off the road and bought a ‘93 Ram W250, Cummins 5-speed. Wasn’t cheap to buy, but it’s cheap to repair and easy to fix. Might not be the fastest or most comfortable thing out there, but it WORKS. A win-win in my book.👍
@5400bowen
@5400bowen 10 ай бұрын
Buy new seats, it’ll be comfortable then.
@SmittySmithsonite
@SmittySmithsonite 10 ай бұрын
@@5400bowen Honestly, the thing actually ain’t that bad for a solid axle vehicle.
@agger838
@agger838 10 ай бұрын
A 07 Silverado is pretty cheap to fix stuff
@arcademania7544
@arcademania7544 10 ай бұрын
​​@@agger838This! I have an 04 Tahoe. The parts are dirt cheap!! The most expensive part is a new engine for $2500. I also have an 02 Expedition. The parts are also cheap!
@SmittySmithsonite
@SmittySmithsonite 10 ай бұрын
@@agger838 To have the transmission built CORRECTLY - as in, will last longer than 100k miles - it cost me almost $5k. To build the rear end correctly - to make that last more than 97k miles - that cost me $1,200. Not what I would call, "cheap" ...
@MDRBDM
@MDRBDM 8 ай бұрын
A good honest mechanic like you is hard to find nowadays
@Haffschlappe
@Haffschlappe Ай бұрын
Im Germany the repairshops take 375 Euro per hour wage
@theamateurbackyardgardener543
@theamateurbackyardgardener543 9 ай бұрын
Interestingly enough, a vendor outfitting some vehicles for us had the same issue. No HVAC/erratic drive ability issues. They pulled the bed to install side boxes and never transferred the harness. Once they did, all was good. Crazy.
@IamTony666
@IamTony666 10 ай бұрын
Not a mechanic but I worked for a Ford Dealership and I would deliver parts to shops locally. One day I'm delivering a tail lamp and im looking at the invoice and I couldn't believe just the housing was shy of $1000 dollars for ONE.
@crazeguy26
@crazeguy26 10 ай бұрын
The Luxury cars are bad $5,000 for one headlight housing
@Fab710
@Fab710 10 ай бұрын
Nowadays, that's a cheap tail light.
@jamalblack8973
@jamalblack8973 10 ай бұрын
Try the Chevy tail lights on the junk silverados. My was charge 1100 dollars for on on his high country
@marshmower
@marshmower 10 ай бұрын
​@@jamalblack8973my great uncle bought one. Why? I have no earthly clue. $94000. His final vehicle possibly and he went all out. He sold his travel trailer though. He had no clue about diesel dpf and thought DEF was cheap.. 😳
@watsisbuttndo829
@watsisbuttndo829 10 ай бұрын
Have seen an invoice for a range rover taillight guard, not the light, just the black plastic fake bars over tge top....$800 aussie dollars in about 1995.
@RyanRiopel
@RyanRiopel 10 ай бұрын
Last July I had a 2015 F-150 in the shop. The radio was not operating, the climate controls were dead, and the power windows would not operate. Same thing, one of the tail lamps had water in it, killed the communication bus. Ended up being a $3000 repair as well.
@luckyguy600
@luckyguy600 10 ай бұрын
You got away light! Get a tube of electrical grease and do every connection you can find/ and then the hard ones you cant see. Then keep your fingers crossed and hope like hell.
@simplycircuitscom
@simplycircuitscom 8 ай бұрын
Great content as always! This type of problem is so common across various manufacturers and industries, unfortunately. And the lack of replacement parts, and parts becoming obsolete seems to be more frustrating than ever. As someone who rebuilds modules like these, I’m thankful for the business. But it creates immense stress and frustration for the owners. My personal vehicle recently had a similar issue under warranty, and we have been waiting on parts for months. Immensely frustrating. Great work tracking this down quickly. Shows your immense skill at troubleshooting and fault finding.
@guyazbell7437
@guyazbell7437 6 ай бұрын
Made in mehico
@jerrylvega2878
@jerrylvega2878 5 ай бұрын
I love your videos and you are the best Ford tech I have ever found on KZfaq. That said , you have proven time and time again that Ford produces nothing but junk. Keep up the great work.
@lyianx
@lyianx 10 ай бұрын
I think.... prices like that is why Right to Repair is SOO important.
@doom4067
@doom4067 10 ай бұрын
Right to repair doesn't counteract the $1,200 tail lamp housing cost.
@j.b.9895
@j.b.9895 10 ай бұрын
Right to repair doesn’t mean you know how to repair. They’re making them so complicated you have to be a computer/electronics expert to understand. Late model vehicles are being totaled out due to outrageous parts cost or inability to diagnose
@j.b.9895
@j.b.9895 10 ай бұрын
For the price of these parts the electronics should be bomb proof. Of course the manufacturer only cares about getting through the warranty period, nothing these days is built to last much past that
@willl.3353
@willl.3353 10 ай бұрын
Right to repair allows you to take it where you wish.
@thesealerguys
@thesealerguys 10 ай бұрын
Especially when they are 700 for a pair of you buy them off google
@lvsqcsl
@lvsqcsl 10 ай бұрын
That truck is 5 years old with 95,000 miles on it. I would be willing to bet that truck was upwards of $80,000 plus when it was new. To spend $5,600.00 on taillights? Certainly does add meaning to the term 'stealership." I guess the ol' Marquis is going to need to run forever. Great video!
@MilesIzHigh5280
@MilesIzHigh5280 10 ай бұрын
Highly doubt it was $80,000 in 2018. In 2018 I bought a brand new Denali 2500 Duramax for $74,900. I highly doubt a gasser cost more than a diesel.
@vtjmproductionsusa2390
@vtjmproductionsusa2390 9 ай бұрын
FK 80k for a Truck
@stevenwestfall7638
@stevenwestfall7638 9 ай бұрын
Its not the dealerships that are the problem here. Its the damned engineers who design this junk.
@robertpsotka3525
@robertpsotka3525 9 ай бұрын
​@@stevenwestfall7638yes, these technicians are beating their heads against a wall trying to repair these over engineered vehicles
@kennygee2715
@kennygee2715 9 ай бұрын
@@MilesIzHigh5280 in 2018 this was probably 40-50k Things have doubled in price since 2018. Well, everything but wages.
@jimlong527
@jimlong527 7 ай бұрын
Agreed I had a mild fender bender with my 2019 Q5 , $1800.00 damage to the other car, my damage was broken grill, small dent on the hood and driver fender, all sensors working, broken front plastic headlights all lights working . The crash speed was less than 10 mph. My repair bill was $18,500. Unbelievable crazy
@brucesmith9144
@brucesmith9144 5 ай бұрын
Just wait until you see your insurance renewal rate 😱
@jimlong527
@jimlong527 5 ай бұрын
@@brucesmith9144 so true can’t wait to see it. I know I will be shopping once again for auto insurance.
@agostinodibella9939
@agostinodibella9939 10 ай бұрын
Uncle Tony sent me. You would think for all the money that Ford charges for these vehicles, they could do a better job of sealing the tail lights and electrical connectors! That's just horrible ☹️
@c5back9
@c5back9 10 ай бұрын
They’re in the business of selling parts too.
@peterfitzpatrick7032
@peterfitzpatrick7032 10 ай бұрын
I think I'd be drilling some drain holes in the new lights.. 😂
@Ottonic6
@Ottonic6 10 ай бұрын
@@peterfitzpatrick7032 Yes, for sure.
@agostinodibella9939
@agostinodibella9939 10 ай бұрын
@@peterfitzpatrick7032 I once did that for both tail lights on an ‘85 Plymouth Reliant wagon, and had no problems after that.
@bmw803
@bmw803 10 ай бұрын
They all do the same. It has become legal extortion.
@mitchellcrane9809
@mitchellcrane9809 9 ай бұрын
What you just experienced is one of the main reasons so many of my customers are willing to spend so much money keeping there older cars on the road. As far as diagnosing it , you did not just fall into it, you kept it simply and used common sense. For all the scanners ,scopes, special tester I own and use , a little common sense, experience and using the brain has led me to the answer faster then anything else.
@williamrobinson6680
@williamrobinson6680 9 ай бұрын
I have a one ton diesel Ford. In two different shops, they diagnosed the Allison tranny sensor as "defective" because it was saying the transmission temp was (if I remember right) negative -49°. At the second shop, I had it replaced. There of course were still issues. A third shop in Greencastle PA corrected the world by advising that the negative -49° sensor reading is actually the common code translated to say; OPEN CIRCUIT. And not a faulty sensor errantly reading tranny temperatures at a -49° American mechanics can be all over the place, leading us down a very expensive parts chasing+replacing rabbit hole. Too much guesswork going on at the consumers' expense.
@BlettzaHrekleW
@BlettzaHrekleW 6 ай бұрын
​​@@williamrobinson6680 I work in parts industry and mechánics just throw parts at vehicles today , order a part that they ( think ) it is and then if new one don't fix it , put that part back in the box , ( to lazy to even clean the part they just hogged up with greasy hands ) and they send it back as a ( new part ) , many times I have to Damage out the part if it can't be cleaned , can't tell you how much a year we damage out over this..
@jayburd08
@jayburd08 9 ай бұрын
we own a 20 expedition. We hit a small bird on the front headlight while traveling. We waited six weeks for a new unit, that was the good news, bad news was $1,900 for the headlight plus labor. At least we aren't driving a triton anymore.
@rushthezeppelin
@rushthezeppelin 6 ай бұрын
Seems like everyday now i get a reminder to be incredibly thankful i have a 98 4runner that is dead reliable and is cheap and easy to work on. It will go damn near anywhere to boot.
@RealWunderBanana
@RealWunderBanana 9 ай бұрын
As one of my instructors once said "Believe it or not, having a ton of issues when it comes to electrical usually means you have a single common problem, making it easier to solve."
@ghostwrench2292
@ghostwrench2292 9 ай бұрын
When there are a lot of issues, look for what they have in common.
@trumptookthevaccine1679
@trumptookthevaccine1679 7 ай бұрын
JAGUAR HAS ENTERED THE CHAT
@FoxRecon383
@FoxRecon383 10 ай бұрын
Definitely have repaired this exact concern lots of times. I keep telling my customers. Fancy packages carry some pretty extreme repair costs. Thanks for posting!
@volvo09
@volvo09 10 ай бұрын
If I had one of those I'd pull the tail light and pull that BLIS module to make sure the seal isn't corroded and there is no water, then I'd grease that seal with silicone type grease to keep further corrosion from happening. Pretty poor design, that is not made to last... can't seal corroded aluminum.
@tomstarcevich1147
@tomstarcevich1147 10 ай бұрын
Exactly 💯 💯
@sl4983
@sl4983 10 ай бұрын
What do you mean fancy packages? Newer cars??
@bubba99009
@bubba99009 10 ай бұрын
@@sl4983 You only get the LED taillights on high spec truck packages - if this wasn't a platinum F-150 it would have $3 incandescent bulbs still and it would be a much cheaper part to replace. I wonder if he could have downgraded and saved some cash - might have to replace a harness because the connectors are different but probably a lot cheaper fix.
@sl4983
@sl4983 10 ай бұрын
@@bubba99009 Oh ok thanks. Are you a mechanic btw?
@jefferylws
@jefferylws 18 күн бұрын
Man I sure wish I lived close to you, you would definitely be the only one to work on my F150. I have learned so much from watching your videos. Thanks for all the great information you give us!
@Kaylun_UO
@Kaylun_UO Ай бұрын
Morimoto makes an awesome set of LED tail lights compatible with BLIS. I just tossed them on my f150 lariat. Nothing was wrong with my OEM set, I just wanted a more modern look and brighter lights. Typically, have sales. I paid $500, and they bought my OEM set for $240. So, $260 for the set. This is for the Gen 2 in red. Highly recommended.
@travisfries8311
@travisfries8311 10 ай бұрын
"locate fees" sounds like one hell of a racket, especially when they now won't stock these replacement parts, i wouldn't be surprised if a stealerships answer is "just buy a new one"
@mph5896
@mph5896 10 ай бұрын
Yeah, that’s the first I have heard of that😂.
@travisfries8311
@travisfries8311 10 ай бұрын
If honestly tell them where to put that locate fee after buying an $80k vehicle that gets disabled in the rain
@bobspreng611
@bobspreng611 10 ай бұрын
Especially since inventory is all electronic now. License to steal basically.
@bubba99009
@bubba99009 10 ай бұрын
I'm assuming the locate fee was from a third party that does that kind of thing. There are places that will try to find parts from places like salvage yards for a fee. I think the dealer would just tell you sorry they are on back-order and we can order them but can't tell you when or if we'll actually get them in. Fee or not they aren't going to find them for you they'll just tell you tough luck.
@Guillotines_For_Globalists
@Guillotines_For_Globalists 10 ай бұрын
@@bubba99009 Some dealers I've heard like to hoard certain items that are on backorder, I heard about it with Chevrolet's 5.3/6.2 lifter issues. I'm not sure how FORD is but I believe GM has the ability for one dealership to check the inventory of the entire lot of nationwide dealerships as far as I am aware, and then you can request/buy parts from another dealership through their parts department. Not so for FORD?
@modified15r
@modified15r 10 ай бұрын
I worked at a high line dealership when HID headlights first came out. A customer would come in with a burned out headlight and expect it to be a $5.00 bulb. When the bulb would short out it would take out the bulb, ballast and igniter in the headlamp. To get to the headlamp out to repair you had to remove bumper and replace the parts. It was sticker shock to the customer to know it was going to cost $1000 to get the headlight working. The repair cost was mostly parts.
@SkylineFTW97
@SkylineFTW97 10 ай бұрын
I think most people need to see what a repair bill for all this fancy stuff costs before they buy a top trim new car. If they did, let's just say I don't think as many people would loom down on then for buying a low trim model or a used car instead.
@vickilund7206
@vickilund7206 10 ай бұрын
Gm product is my guess...maybe a caddy?
@LuckyCharms777
@LuckyCharms777 10 ай бұрын
Yep, went to change the headlamp on my car and discovered I had to take off the bumper. Talk about BS designs. These vehicles are ridiculous. Soon enough everyone will essentially swap out cars as often we do phones because nobody can afford to fix them (won’t be worth the cost).
@idahodiy
@idahodiy 10 ай бұрын
I have HIDs in both my cars and I get replacement bulbs for $10 and I have never known anyone to have a ballast go. You sure you weren't just ripping your customers off? Removing a bumper usually only takes a few minutes too.
@modified15r
@modified15r 10 ай бұрын
@@idahodiy Igniter 33102-S0k-A01 $285.31 Ballast 33144-S0K-A01 $506.59 Bulb 33116-S0A-J11 $304.29 Labor 2hrs @ $100 an hour circa 1999 The bulbs were not readily available aftermarket in 1999. Still cost around $100 aftermarket from autozone.. Seen a ton of them go out on Acura TL's when they first came out.
@chrisretired5379
@chrisretired5379 9 ай бұрын
I’m so glad that my 2016 xlt just has normal lamps . Thank you for another awesome video !👍👍
@AnthonyJ350
@AnthonyJ350 8 ай бұрын
We had to replace headlights in a 2020 Explorer Interceptor. $2,000 for one, and it had to be programmed at the dealership to communicate properly with the BCM. It's getting crazy.
@ohger1
@ohger1 10 ай бұрын
Great advice to use the silicone dielectric grease. I do NO electrical repairs without stuffing all connectors with this grease. Not only does it deny oxygen and moisture access to the contact plating, it also lubricates the contacts to prevent mechanical plating erosion from vibration.
@jasonborne5724
@jasonborne5724 10 ай бұрын
But at the metal to metal contact between the two surfaces of the plug and connector there isn’t dielectric grease, otherwise it would block the electrical current. Correct?
@ohger1
@ohger1 10 ай бұрын
@@jasonborne5724 Absolutely correct. The contact is metal to metal at the molecular level and the grease would insulate the contact *if it could*. What happens is that the dielectric grease gets pushed aside at the contact point(s) but surrounds the contact points with a barrier that excludes air, moisture, and any contaminates.
@powayimports4175
@powayimports4175 10 ай бұрын
I put dielectric grease recently on an Audi TT led rail lamp in an effort to prevent corrosion and 2 weeks later it came back with the tail lamp not working! Had to clean the connectors off for it to work again.
@ohger1
@ohger1 10 ай бұрын
@@powayimports4175 I've seen they happen when the plating is already compromised. Change the socket and anything that comes in contact with it.
@lactusgalacto1174
@lactusgalacto1174 10 ай бұрын
@@powayimports4175 Now everything is run by computer modules if water get in through the light the car or trucks won be running. that is crazy.
@thooks1234
@thooks1234 10 ай бұрын
I’ll stick with my 2014 Tundra that has 169k miles on it and has never been in the shop. It doesn’t tell me when someone is beside me, that’s what the $350 mirrors are for. I grew up driving in the 80’s. I know to stay between the lane lines. I know not to get too close to other objects. I guess growing up in the modern world is kinda tough.
@JosephSato-1997
@JosephSato-1997 8 ай бұрын
Very well done explaining the situation. Everybody owning the newer cars need to understand the complexity of the technical bells and whistles, in the event of failure, it will be $$$$ to have the issues resolved. I would go back to basic model’s. I mean if I could find them.
@mildredjeakins5435
@mildredjeakins5435 8 ай бұрын
This is a good one that’s tell us to not wait fix a cracked housing ( I’m a procrastinator) thank you so much for your time!
@YooTooobJeff
@YooTooobJeff 10 ай бұрын
Just unbelievable… both the costs… AND your abilities!!! You describe it all so well, and your honesty is the best part!!!
@robbobsjobs8456
@robbobsjobs8456 10 ай бұрын
Aunt cracked her 2017 Ram rear taillight, cost about 3k to fix, those sensors are worthlessly expensive.
@kssarh
@kssarh 9 ай бұрын
Had a similar issue on an E350 where the headlights going bad due to water intrusion actually cascades into a whole bunch of other issues due to modules attached to them. Cost for repair was somewhere around $4K. We're in a crazy world where a Mercedez is cheaper to repair than a Ford.
@user-xw4hn7lb3x
@user-xw4hn7lb3x 6 ай бұрын
Home Depot pays $2 for a can of spray paint. They then put in on the shelf and price it at $7. Gives you an idea of how much all businesses are charging for products or services.
@Ninjump
@Ninjump 9 ай бұрын
I went through this exact issue. The idea of a little water taking down the entire truck is insane. I love my 2017 F150 Platinum but this almost made me sell it. For those wondering, disconnecting the battery for half a day, cleaning drying, and greasing several 20 pin connectors (relating to the tailight) and replacing the entire tailight including the BLIS module finally fixed it. I also drilled a tiny weep hole in the lens of the new light so water couldn't collect in there and work it's way into the BLIS module - used a clear caulk to seal the module into the taillamp body too. It was insane gremlins all over the truck till I fixed it. Utter bullshit! I really appreciate you making this video. There is a lot of confusion out there on this issue.
@fvrrljr
@fvrrljr 9 ай бұрын
*weep hole* was my comment on Louis Rossmann channel. that's why i'm here. Louis posted the story i came to see story
@87wxdiaz
@87wxdiaz 9 ай бұрын
Built Ford tough
@jimlong2469
@jimlong2469 9 ай бұрын
Fix Or Repair Daily ......... never goes out of style@@87wxdiaz
@JensSchraeder
@JensSchraeder 9 ай бұрын
Ford should be on the hook for this. Bad design
@yurimodin7333
@yurimodin7333 8 ай бұрын
1995 and older for me from now on..........emissions can go to hell. Its MY vehicle, I WILL keep it running affordably.
@672macknasby7
@672macknasby7 10 ай бұрын
I drive a forklift, in the plant that built that tail lamp (and headlamp). That was the P-552 program, which is now a service program. So, we only run them occasionally, when required to fill service orders. That's a High Series rear lamp, with LED's and the BLIS module. We are currently running the P-702 program, getting close to changing to MCA. By the way, that lamp was built by Ventra Lighting, (Flex-N-Gate) Sandusky, Ohio.
@steadyeddie7453
@steadyeddie7453 10 ай бұрын
So what are they doing different now to prevent water infiltration into the housings. This was the root cause of the problem.
@672macknasby7
@672macknasby7 10 ай бұрын
@@steadyeddie7453 I have no idea what they may be doing, to prevent water infiltration. I'm not an engineer, I'm a forklift driver.
@user-lp3cf5yn5b
@user-lp3cf5yn5b 9 ай бұрын
​@@672macknasby7aww, come on now, we know you know more than you say. You're a CERTIFIED forklift operator! Lol
@wooderk6202
@wooderk6202 Ай бұрын
Managed to get in a few vacations?! LOLOLOL. Awesome vids pro. You have saved my ass a bunch of times when i was tearing apart my 5.4. Keep up the good work, Your helping ALOT of people.
@jeffquade1
@jeffquade1 Ай бұрын
Had the exact problem two years ago on my 2019 platinum. I was traveling across country and all of a sudden my truck started doing all the stuff that was mentioned. I stopped at a dealer in New Mexico. They initially told me it was my body control module, but didn’t have one in stock so ended up just hitting the road and trying to get as far as I could to my destination. By the time I got where I was going, my truck was running, but hardly anything else was working. The dealer I took it to there correctly diagnosed it as passenger side tail light. But I paid $1500 for the tail light and all the included modules from the dealer. I could not believe all those problems came from a single tail light with some water exposure.
@AJourneyOfYourSoul
@AJourneyOfYourSoul 10 ай бұрын
Good luck finding a tech who can diagnose this as well as Brian can. Most won’t be able to do it, just costing the customer money for nothing.
@dangda-ww7de
@dangda-ww7de 10 ай бұрын
Time is money, dont buy stuff that you cant afford, like a lot of idiots out there popping out mistakes that they cant afford, all they need to learn is how to use a condom.
@revbikerbigd8664
@revbikerbigd8664 10 ай бұрын
I retired from my auto repair business in 2011 and glad I did. Module Hell today ! Thank you for for all you show us. Saved my butt a few times 🙏👍🏻 Always enjoy your videos !
@Controlfreek182
@Controlfreek182 6 ай бұрын
Thanks for pointing this flaw out to everyone. I have a 2020 F150 XLT and every time I leave the car wash, stuff doesn't work until it dries out and magically comes back to life. Mostly, it's been drive mode unavailable, which lead me to believe that there was a harness connected to the transmission causing this. Bingo, you nailed it. The local Ford Deale here is totally useless for any issues I may have.
@RadioMarkCroom
@RadioMarkCroom 5 ай бұрын
Nice catch -- really thoughtful troubleshooting and yes your expertise has a lot to do with it (but sometimes it pays to get a little lucky too).
@rays7437
@rays7437 10 ай бұрын
This is not just a FORD issue.
@adventureoflinkmk2
@adventureoflinkmk2 10 ай бұрын
Was gonna say water logging into GM fixtures.. been happening for a long time. Just took off the tail light bar off my park avenue.. and.. oh.. my God. All the water coming out and corroded connections and even one of my bulbs is water logged 😳
@larrymashburn7789
@larrymashburn7789 10 ай бұрын
This is a "you want tesla lights and smart safety features" issue
@erikkarlonas180
@erikkarlonas180 10 ай бұрын
My 16 Ram Express is going a long just fine.
@rockie307
@rockie307 10 ай бұрын
My 13 f150 just blew its first light ever front bulb and it's housing has been cracked from a accident for 5 years with moisture inside. Replaced the bulb for like 50 dollars since it's hid.
@jacobuszwanenburg1629
@jacobuszwanenburg1629 10 ай бұрын
Caterpillar too And other heavy equipment manufacturers. Can’t repair only replace cha ching $$$
@nosherz
@nosherz 9 ай бұрын
Imagine all the added tension & excitement for air passengers, if aircraft electrical systems were designed this way. Something as random as a passenger toilet extractor fan not working, might be a serious enough reason to request an emergency landing 😊
@MrTimeless101
@MrTimeless101 9 ай бұрын
or water in a navigation light.
@Andy-im3kj
@Andy-im3kj 9 ай бұрын
And to think there are people entertaining the idea of an all electric airplane these people don't know what they're dealing with!!!
@smallbee1234
@smallbee1234 9 ай бұрын
Or worse yet, flushing the toilet and the entire jet explodes in mid-air.
@CPreacher40
@CPreacher40 9 ай бұрын
I think I paid less than 30 bucks on ebay a few years ago to replace the entire door mirror on my truck. it was also fairly easy to replace it myself.
@oscarzepeda1558
@oscarzepeda1558 5 ай бұрын
Makes me appreciate my 2005 Dodge Caravan with 260,000 miles even more, right now it’s 15 below zero in Nebraska and my baby named “Champ” [ short for Champion b/c it uses Champion spark plugs] my baby started right up with no issue and it was parked outside; . Great video, we have to think out of the box and be a detective these days, Great Job !!!
@65f100352
@65f100352 10 ай бұрын
I'll keep my 65 f100, thanks. Bailing wire, duct tape, and an extra set of points in the glove box and I'm good to go. I'm SO done with new stuff. These companies have lost their minds...
@pedrorojascervantes3928
@pedrorojascervantes3928 10 ай бұрын
I have a '89 5 speed Bog Warner tranny & transfer case XLT Bronco , manual hubs . Love everything about it except the gas mileage!
@mark98070
@mark98070 10 ай бұрын
I have the same mindset. Keep my 95 f150 on the road whatever it takes. Unfortunately I just spent 2k on it for a complete clutch & hydraulics. After seeing Brian's video I no longer think I spent too much on the old gal.
@steveturner3999
@steveturner3999 10 ай бұрын
My first vehicle. Inherited it when my dad died. Everything you said plus if the battery died you could push crank it easy as pie.
@steveturner3999
@steveturner3999 10 ай бұрын
My ‘06 F150 5.4 3v with 270,000 miles just keeps looking better and better!
@oldcarnocar
@oldcarnocar 10 ай бұрын
@@steveturner3999 same with my 1998 crown vic 4.6 2v 135k hell she ain't even broke in yet
@jarvenz
@jarvenz 9 ай бұрын
13 years ago I purchased a 1991 Toyota Hi-Ace Diesel 4WD for $5500NZ. It is still running. I have spent around $5000 in repairs. (Mostly rust, as I take it on the beach). I will never sell it. No question, it is the best vehicle I have ever owned. The tail-lights are original.
@heisenfeis
@heisenfeis 8 ай бұрын
Question are you able to buy the newer Hi-Aces over 2011 model? Here in Europe the 2011+ "pollute too much" so we don't have them I know they make them in Japan. However Toyota has paired up with PSA Peugeot and Citroen to rebadge a Partner and call it the "Pro Ace" just a French Shitbox IMO with Toyota badges, a disgrace many customers say they buy Toyota because of quality, and they get a French car, talk about a scam. Also a side note Volvo, people buy them because of "Quality" little do people know after 1999 Ford bought them and Shitboxes yet again, however now China has Volvo it is just Shitboxes with big wheels. If you did not know, "Stellantis" is a auto conglomerate made up of the Crappiest car companies ever to exist destined to make the ultimate shitbox, can't wait to screw over more people with stupid repair bills.
@a200tq1
@a200tq1 7 ай бұрын
@@heisenfeis yeah-the crappy Stellantis car, the Alfa-Romeo Giulia, was for a long time the fastest 4-door car in the Nordschleife, faster than many supercars.
@a200tq1
@a200tq1 7 ай бұрын
It is hard to believe, but there are enough people with money, and they are ready to pay to drive the modern car with 400 hp engine, 10 airbags, leather, climate control, bose music and good brakes.
@v10moped
@v10moped 6 ай бұрын
Cool life story, bro. But try to stay on topic.
@mps9608
@mps9608 8 ай бұрын
Great job diagnosing the issue. Crazy the complexity and cost of all this. Toyota just came out with a new pickup (not available in the US) Manual trans, no radio, simple work truck for $10k. We will never see it.
@bmstylee
@bmstylee 7 ай бұрын
But it wouldn't sell. No one wants any vehicle that bare bones. People can lie to themselves all day saying that you don't need a radio and some other basic creature comforts but the fact is they do.
@NotYourMamasChannel
@NotYourMamasChannel 7 ай бұрын
It's the return of the throwaway cars. I thought we were done with them back in the 90s but now they're roaring back with a vengeance, and they're much more expensive.
@EnthusiastsGarage
@EnthusiastsGarage 10 ай бұрын
This is why extended warranties are a must for loaded vehicles.
@sl4983
@sl4983 10 ай бұрын
What's a "loaded vehicle"?
@wtfman5313
@wtfman5313 10 ай бұрын
They’d find a reason to deny it.
@wtfman5313
@wtfman5313 10 ай бұрын
@@sl4983 One that has $5,600.00 tail lights!!
@kreaola93
@kreaola93 10 ай бұрын
​@@sl4983a vehicle with alot of options and accessories installed. Led lights, panoramic sunroof, power liftgate, safety features, expensive drivetrain
@FishFind3000
@FishFind3000 10 ай бұрын
@@sl4983car with all the options. It’s like a loaded baked potato. The more options you have the more things that can break.
@HH-zh2os
@HH-zh2os 10 ай бұрын
Anything involving a vehicle, the prices are out of control. That's what makes your videos so invaluable to average income people, people who $5600 is not sensible to fix tail lights of all things. Thanks for doing what you do.
@okrajoe
@okrajoe 8 ай бұрын
And we all pay higher auto insurance costs, because our cheap car might ding a Ford and break the taillamp. What used to be $200 damage is now $5,000 damage.
@KGB-FSB
@KGB-FSB 9 ай бұрын
2005 accrord ex sedan 5 speed. Bought brand new back I the days, still running, planning on keeping it
@jrbpit1
@jrbpit1 10 ай бұрын
I have a Toyota Avalon. I hit a deer a few years ago. Total repair bill was &10,976. The deer strike took out the radar for the cruise control. The radar module was $900.00. The windshield also got cracked, that was another $970 because of the lane departure camera.
@joelopez40oz23
@joelopez40oz23 10 ай бұрын
Did you go through your car insurance?
@bigmooi
@bigmooi 10 ай бұрын
funny wife just had the windshield replaced in the Avalon 2018 I think it was $1100 covered by insurance glass coverage. But we had to bring it directly to the shop as they said the lane keeping needed to be recalibrated. had to take everything out of the car as they said it needed to be stock weight for the calibration, so car seats out and empty trunk...
@DieselTruckin
@DieselTruckin 10 ай бұрын
That module on a Ford escape is almost 3 grand! Stupid!!
@sseeplane6950
@sseeplane6950 10 ай бұрын
wow, looks like i'll be holding onto my 2013 a while longer
@Mcfly0856
@Mcfly0856 10 ай бұрын
I wish I would've kept my '13 too, these new trucks aren't worth a sh*t...
@wb6anp
@wb6anp 10 ай бұрын
I just bought a '14, still needs new phasers.but atleast those are cheaper than the tail lights, I am doing the work myself.
@nateg08
@nateg08 10 ай бұрын
​@wb6anp what kills me is the fact that a tail light can cost more than a turbo for one of these things. I have a 15 lariat with pretty much every option. I may get rid of it if I have to replace a light. How sad.
@bubba99009
@bubba99009 10 ай бұрын
@@nateg08 If you got a lariat you probably don't have LED tail lights. Ford locks those behind platinum trim level. One reason they are so ridiculously expensive no doubt - most trucks don't get them.
@nateg08
@nateg08 10 ай бұрын
@@bubba99009 I'd have to look. The weird thing is that when I search my Vin it comes up platinum but it's badged lariat. Ever heard of that?
@gerardtrigo380
@gerardtrigo380 7 ай бұрын
We had troubles with taillights with some Chevy vans in the sixties. We fixed the water problem by drilling 3/16" drain holes in the new taillights before installing them. If the water is allowed to drain the only problem is an occasional blown bulb. As soon as I saw water collecting in a light fixture on any of my vehicles, I replaced the bulb and drilled drain holes. Never had any electrical connectors corrode after doing that. If the water drains quickly they soon dry out.
@danenright7537
@danenright7537 6 ай бұрын
I have a 2015 Lariat F150 that experienced the same thing. Fortunately for me when Ford told me what the replacement cost was I took the tail light home and used a hair dryer , dried the module out , resealed it as well as the lens leak. That was 2 years ago and still running fine. The tail light moisture issue caused my radio, HVAC, power windows, all to not function.
@HammerWrench
@HammerWrench 10 ай бұрын
Makes me hug my single bulb Excursion taillight housing!
@barelyfree9427
@barelyfree9427 10 ай бұрын
We are light speeding towards the era of those that knows how to figure crap out themselves vs those that overpay massively for every tiny thing.
@internet_internet
@internet_internet 10 ай бұрын
Ain’t no diy guy figuring this mess out without a professional background in it.
@user-lp3cf5yn5b
@user-lp3cf5yn5b 9 ай бұрын
No, the manufacturers are making certain that we WONT BE ABLE TO figure it out, there's no "figuring" this kind of failure out, it's replace the assemblies because there is no fixing them.
@motofunk1
@motofunk1 9 ай бұрын
You will own nothing....
@larryhouse3776
@larryhouse3776 7 ай бұрын
You cant touch a new vehicle. Your warrant will void. And even in the case of insurance claims, insurance may not help you if your vehicle fails and you've worked on it yourself.
@Annon89
@Annon89 7 ай бұрын
I’ll keep my 2nd gen Tacoma. Good to know what kind of issues are happening these days and newer vehicles. I don’t think you could do this diy which is a huge downside for the backyard mechanic without all the newest diagnostic tools and training.
@billyLomas-Clark
@billyLomas-Clark Ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing you knowledge. Very well explained
@barell-rs3js
@barell-rs3js 10 ай бұрын
Had almost the same problem with an F-150. HS network was down so you can imagine how many modules that was. Spent an absurd amount of time trying to figure out which module was causing it until I finally started unplugging everything one by one, it ended up being the ABS module. The unplug method, works every time.
@FixItPleaseJ
@FixItPleaseJ 10 ай бұрын
Classic fault isolation technique.
I wish I could change THIS fast! 🤣
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