Replace lithium tablet battery (3/5 wires with 2 wire) INSIGNIA NS-P16AT08

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7 жыл бұрын

EDUCATIONAL ONLY -- NOT INTENDED AS ADVICE.
BigSLICK fixes a defective Insignia NS-P16AT08 android tablet that, after only 1 year, developed a bad (open circuit) battery.
I show how the original "5 wires battery" (actually, 3 wires...) was replaced with a generic 2-wire lithium polymer battery. New battery has higher capacity and the tablet now has SUBSTANTIALLY LONGER battery life and works better than when new.

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@frankbarby1715 6 жыл бұрын

Dude: thanks for the tips. Did exactly as you recommended and IT WORKED! Really appreciate your adding this video.

@ardensellars 5 жыл бұрын

Would of been kewl to c the resistor work

@sangeethc 4 жыл бұрын

white wire to black or red or both ?? where did you connect resistor

@Griever0608 4 жыл бұрын

Same question as sangeeth

@user-yi7ez6lf4z 3 жыл бұрын

How do I connect the white one to the other? Should I replace the protection circuit board, too? Because, If you trash the circuit board, White one's tip both start and end should be connected to the others and that seems meaningless.

@f1ghter677 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for this video. I had some other issues with the charging port so i ordered a charging module and thus video helped me to understand the connections. Thank you so much

@fredjohnson9856 7 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the video. I did some testing of my own, the white wire goes to a thermistor to track battery temp. Higher temp = lower resistance.

@Terablick 4 жыл бұрын

Yes, it is a very important thing on that battery, because it protects it from overheating = permanent damage and capacity decrease :) I came to see how exactly it was changed from 3 wire to 2 wire battery (that whole circuit from one battery to another one), but it wasn't, so I am a bit disappointed, because "fixing" it by adding permanent resistor is like change a circuit breaker by a nail :) It will work fine, except of any suitable form of protection :)

@cptrush3671 3 жыл бұрын

@@Terablick although this video is quite old you were partially correct. he still had protection board on new battery. so im sure it was ok.

@JungleBabaNick 5 ай бұрын

Thanks for the help. Really useful. Converted a 5 wire battery to solar charging.

@TheTails63 6 жыл бұрын

Thanks,a lot of good tips to save some headaches.

@sunrise6091 5 жыл бұрын

Thank you ... succesfully replaced x3soul mini ... direct powered line

@Lord5oth 4 жыл бұрын

video is much better on 2x speed, thanks for the video.

@alexkit14 4 жыл бұрын

To those asking where the resistor goes. He said that the white wire goes to the black wire with the resistor in between. 09:01

@Tudumanu Жыл бұрын

The 10k to 12k resistor 😉

@noway0815 4 жыл бұрын

thanks for the video... I appreciate you effort

@mctaufan 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Mate, it works well

@bissib585 3 жыл бұрын

thanks for the tips.

@amin031 6 жыл бұрын

Thanks for this.

@learnalanguagewithleslie 4 жыл бұрын

Good job man!

@lovikaifzaidinakanal980 6 жыл бұрын

It would be very useful if you could show - how the resistor was attached.

@bantuy Жыл бұрын

connected short to white and black wire

@Griever0608 4 жыл бұрын

Can you show the picture on how you attached the resisitor please?

@pedromedidata 6 жыл бұрын

Best thing is switching the circuit board of the two batterys, did that and work fine.

@pr0xZen 4 жыл бұрын

On some battery cells the terminals for connecting the actual cell to the protection board are really difficult to work with. So this is something to evaluate on a case by case basis. Also note that lithium cells are finicky with temperature, and there's zero protection - those connections go straight to the internal cell layers. So be careful not to short them, and if soldering use flux. You need to limit how much heat you apply as it sinks straight into the cell to a minimum, so get the actual soldering done quickly.

@joepastafari 4 жыл бұрын

@@pr0xZen it's safer than running the battery without all the protection circuits that are built into that board

@dawntoolbelter7610 5 жыл бұрын

As others have said, DO NOT replace a 3 wire Li battery with a 2 wire. You will be asking for trouble of the explosive kind. If you have a fire and your house or car is damaged, the insurance company will have the device forensically examined and by fitting the wrong battery you will void your insurance.

@fernandocasar1792 3 жыл бұрын

@2:40 I think the reason might be maintaining a low profile on the connectors, power connectors are often big and bulky. The cheap alternative is just soldering to a big pad.

@hananhanan5864 5 жыл бұрын

Tankoyo.yes.Tablit.Merci

@paulrayner8447 5 жыл бұрын

Dud, you are bypassing the battery charge safety circuit. The white wire goes to a thermistor which detects the temperature of your battery. The safey circuit cuts of the connection if your battery heats up too much. Please don't try this at home.

@nkos6376 5 жыл бұрын

i am not sure but this functionality (and all the other protections) should be inside the lipo battery's protection system. otherwise they will not sell it with only 2 wires.

@cptrush3671 3 жыл бұрын

although this video is quite old you were partially correct. he still had protection board on new battery. so im sure it was ok.

@dustinsiemers4766 3 жыл бұрын

Only thing I would warn ppl about is that the resistor in the original battery is intended to protect the tablet (and other stuff) from starting on fire. It will change value when it gets too hot and thus stop the charging. So if you do this you probably want to charge it very carefully from now on, especially when this new battery gets old.

@cptrush3671 3 жыл бұрын

new battery has protection board on it. he did not remove it so it should be fine.

@sonicfuker Жыл бұрын

Well done. One less thing in a landfill and you save the money too.

@J.Corr89 5 жыл бұрын

So what do you do with the white wire for it to work and charge right?

@Smmmile Жыл бұрын

I believe the white wire is for temperature.

@JodBronson Жыл бұрын

Yes it is!

@expert2792 3 жыл бұрын

Working perfect

@user-yi7ez6lf4z 3 жыл бұрын

@expert2792 3 жыл бұрын

@@user-yi7ez6lf4z you just connect a 10k resistor between white and back wire,and then connect positive and negative on bms board

@meowgadgets8165 6 жыл бұрын

Dude,awesome video. I'm trying to do the same except I'm to replace the protection board of the lipo battery I bought from Aliexpress with my smartphone battery's original protection board. Any tips perhaps?

@SagarDeswalBR 3 жыл бұрын

It's called BMS(battery management system

@pe7976 5 жыл бұрын

Can you advice how can i directly power a JBL Go using USB direct and bypass the battery? It sounds great compared to its peers in the competition but changing the dead battery will have me change it again after 2 years so there is no point reviving the JBL Go only to do same thing every time the battery no longer holds a charge plus I can still use it outside home by hooking it directly to a USB power bank, which in that case still makes it a go speaker. I have seen one in you tube doing the conversion but it is in Thai and pretty cannot be understood how he does it and I think that video was more of a show off of electrical/electronic skills rather than one one as a tutorial.

@JodBronson Жыл бұрын

*For me, it was easier to take the old Charging Circuit Board out and replace it with the new one, it was faster and simpler.*

@ner0p Жыл бұрын

Does that even work?

@JodBronson Жыл бұрын

@@ner0p - YES 100% !!!

@DanWebster 3 жыл бұрын

how much was the new battery?

@nunodantas8326 7 жыл бұрын

Hi, have the same problem. I'm buying a 2 wire battery but the original has 5... do I have to replace the new battery board with the older one, you did not show the welding process. appreciate the advise

@syedEpic2 2 жыл бұрын

Can you do tablet without battery for 5 pin battery

@johncygan250 7 жыл бұрын

I have the same problem and have received my battery bought on Ebay. I measure 9.7K ohms between the white and black wires. I see a 10K ohm, 1/4watt resistor on RadioShack website. Is this an OK resistor to use or should it be 1/8 watt?

@bigslick 7 жыл бұрын

wattage does not matter

@johncygan250 7 жыл бұрын

Thanks!!!

@pz6pz419 5 жыл бұрын

I don't fucking care

@iliedraguta1389 3 жыл бұрын

Why don't you show you connected the 2 wires from the battery???

@humaylkhanyousafzai3909 6 жыл бұрын

My tablet has 6 years old 2012

@lilwayne9482 5 жыл бұрын

Hehe

@gphilipc2031 4 жыл бұрын

BS...How do I look up the battery? I would like to purchase a good quality 4000 to 5000mah battery for my little 7" Emerson Tablet. The old battery is shot. Who is the vendor that you purchased from on E-bay?

@syxxx9 3 ай бұрын

My tablet use 2 lines. But i bought new battery with 3 lines. How to connect?

@frankdad0n10 7 жыл бұрын

do u have a link to the websit for the battary i have the same tab and i have the same problem

@bigslick 7 жыл бұрын

from ebay search for: 3.7V 5000 mAh 3194105 battery

@frankdad0n10 7 жыл бұрын

bigslick thanks

@borjok536 5 жыл бұрын

can u.solder the protection circuit on another battery of the same size of the original battery and use it as replacement? is that possoble?

@JunglistBass 5 жыл бұрын

I fitted the circuit from my original battery to the new ebay battery, after removing the one on the ebay battery

@HAIForest18 5 жыл бұрын

As long as it is the same battery type (Li-ion) and same voltage (3.7V) you should be good to go. By changing the battery circuit from the 2 wire to 3 wire system, you are actually making the cheap battery a little bit safer since you are adding some more protections to it.

@borjok536 5 жыл бұрын

Jakub Lapin thank you for this info..

@JanetDiaz6152 5 жыл бұрын

how do i charge direct a li-po polymer rechargeable with 3 wires, RED/black/ and white 3.7 volts 4100mAh

@gameconsole9890 5 жыл бұрын

Just apply 4.2v at correct terminals ang calculate the time depending on how much current you want the battery to charge ang how much is the capacity of your battery

@Benri05 3 жыл бұрын

can I do the opposite? my tablet only takes 2 wires (black and red) and the replacement battery that I got has 3 wires ( black, red, and white), can I just plug the black and red wires and just leave the white one unconnected?

@mikel4879 Жыл бұрын

Top 10 E / Yes, because the electronic regulator ( BMS, etc ) is on the main board in this case where your device's battery has only 2 wires from the factory.

@philipnickerson8664 5 жыл бұрын

The "protecting circuit" is a regulator.

@jimmurphy5355 Жыл бұрын

The protection board might be a regulator. But I think it is more likely to be a "BMS." For a single cell like this, the BMS would consist of a voltage detector and some MOSFET switches that simply turn off the current in the event that the cell voltage gets too low or too high. The actual charging regulator, the circuit that converts the 5 volts (or higher) that comes from the wall adapter to the carefully controlled current and voltage to correctly charge the cell, will be on the main board of the tablet.

@chudaikhanahindustan4891 4 жыл бұрын

best is used mastercard, visa card to pry open a tablet, phone like that, never use sharp objects, or any plastic will also do...

@sistersofmercy 6 жыл бұрын

Hello, thanks,works for me but i use 45k resistor, and start charging , i try with 1k,2k,10k,12k, and then 45k and ir works dont know why but it works,

@RandomNullpointer 4 жыл бұрын

the white wire goes to a thermistor to track battery temp. Higher temp = lower resistance

@sangeethc 4 жыл бұрын

u connected resistor from white wire to red ? or black ? or both ?

@RandomNullpointer 4 жыл бұрын

to black

@ngleeann1247 4 жыл бұрын

N red to red?

@lilwayne9482 5 жыл бұрын

Help please my red wire is cut 💔💔💔💔

@SSchotu 2 жыл бұрын

CAN I USE 3.7 VOLT 10000 MAH LIPO BATTERY IN LIEU OF 3.7 VOLT 3000 MAH LIPO BATTERY (DEFAULT) IN MY TAB WITHOUT ANY HAZARD/DAMAGE?

@mikel4879 Жыл бұрын

Shymal S / 1) Yes, if you use your original regulator and the regulator is in good condition. 2) No, if you just connect directly to the wires because the 10 000 mAh one takes a higher current to charge, so it works but there's danger to get on fire or destroy the device.

@JodBronson Жыл бұрын

Yes, it was easier to take the old Charging Circuit Board out and replace it with the new one, it was faster and simpler.

@borjok536 4 жыл бұрын

can u just solder the original battery protection chip to the new one? is that possible?

@RandomNullpointer 4 жыл бұрын

yes