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NIC’S - SYSTEMS & ELECTRIC

NIC’S - SYSTEMS & ELECTRIC

Күн бұрын

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@mikecue4012
@mikecue4012 Жыл бұрын
Glad you explained how you came into the business. Hat's off to the company who saw in you your interest and have brought you along. We have a tremendous shortage of skilled workers in every technical field today. I personally know of a system integrator who started out "hanging around" a particular shop. The guys there took an interest in HIS interest and he followed the same path it looks like you are on: Volunteer to part time to full time and then up the ladder. I wish you and the people who are mentoring you the very best.
@nics-systems-electric
@nics-systems-electric 3 жыл бұрын
Part two video kzfaq.info/get/bejne/hruhacqH0NrHnZs.html System verification video kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qLd5mbxlsZi-ZWQ.html Fire alarm replacement project at another school kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qtyVoZeG3LKqgas.htmlsi=qtXNseWeGOQDx4I1
@XSHADOWTHELEGENDARYHEDGEHOGxX
@XSHADOWTHELEGENDARYHEDGEHOGxX Жыл бұрын
what happened to ur hand
@leafmk
@leafmk Жыл бұрын
@@XSHADOWTHELEGENDARYHEDGEHOGxX i saw the bandaid too what happend
@XSHADOWTHELEGENDARYHEDGEHOGxX
@XSHADOWTHELEGENDARYHEDGEHOGxX Жыл бұрын
I got no idea what he did to his hand
@ajsmusic723
@ajsmusic723 8 күн бұрын
​@@XSHADOWTHELEGENDARYHEDGEHOGxX he crashed his eletric scooter at 40 mph
@pr0spect4139
@pr0spect4139 2 жыл бұрын
One good practice I've found is adding labels to all the devices with their address. That way you can clearly identify which device it is in the future without having to open it. Helps when testing the system also
@joeycaridi3030
@joeycaridi3030 2 жыл бұрын
What the labels usually say is the SLC's loop number and device's address number and the type of device is which is Module or Detector. Here's what it all means: L#: SLC loop # M###: Module # Or D###: Detector # Example 1 (Module): L1M004. L1 is the SLC loop's number of the device that it's on, M004 is the Module's address on that SLC loop. Example 2 (Detector): L2D008. L2 is the SLC loop's number of the device that it's on, D008 is the Detector's address on that SLC loop. When adding the Module's label like "L1M100" it also has to be added to the outside of a pull station because inside an addressable pull station there's a mini monitor module built inside the pull station that monitors the pull station's contacts where the contacts are in an open state as the pull station is normal (LED light of the mini monitor module is blinking fast) and if it monitors the contacts in a closed state as the pull station is pulled then the monitor module will set off the fire alarm system (LED light of the mini monitor module is solid) and the monitor module will stay in that closed state when the pull station is reset but will go back to an open state when the system is reset with the pull station as well (LED light of the mini monitor module is blinking fast again). It could've been different as a pull station would be abbreviated as "P" which means the label could be "L2P060" but it's "M" to abbreviate Module as pull stations count as a Module on an addressable system because of the mini monitor module inside of it
@boydalexander4652
@boydalexander4652 3 жыл бұрын
The fire alarm system is getting a big upgrade
@nics-systems-electric
@nics-systems-electric 3 жыл бұрын
Yes it is
@boydalexander4652
@boydalexander4652 2 жыл бұрын
@@nics-systems-electric this is better than my schools Edwards EST system which is junk but even though Edwards EST is junk it has worked surprisingly well in my school.
@elevatorfan1559
@elevatorfan1559 Жыл бұрын
What type of est system is it
@_lmza9953
@_lmza9953 Жыл бұрын
soon it is going to become into a combo lock, 2 keys, a numberpad to access the code, and to do a dance to activate it
@ObamnaSoda513
@ObamnaSoda513 Жыл бұрын
I hate p2rl speaker strobes my school has em they sound horrible fire drills are boring
@kmk5239
@kmk5239 Жыл бұрын
3:43 my dad worked on all sorts of building construction, and in this case he would’ve forced it off (but only pulling it a slight distance) but he would’ve given it a good tug. It won’t take off the paint around it, at most it might take off a small chip that’ll end up being covered by the new device. Or at least when he did things like that, he did it with no damage because he had a lot of experience under his belt 😂
@nics-systems-electric
@nics-systems-electric Жыл бұрын
That would not be a good idea to just rip it off you would rip a bunch of paint off the proper way is to do what I did and cut the paint where it is pointed to the plastic around the device
@kmk5239
@kmk5239 Жыл бұрын
@@nics-systems-electric there’s a technique to it. Then again, my dad did work for almost 30 years. There’s a certain way you gotta do it to where it won’t remove the paint. But yes, there is a “proper” way (I realize it seems like I’m criticizing or making fun of you, that’s not my intent 😂)
@CGray1234
@CGray1234 Жыл бұрын
There’s something just so satisfying about watching these get replaced
@ZakWolf
@ZakWolf 3 жыл бұрын
Looks like it started out as a Simplex fire alarm system in the 1970s, but then in the 1980s or early 1990s the Edwards 6616 replaced whatever the old Simplex panel was (probably a 4207 or 4208), along with those Edwards heat sensors, and some of the Simplex bells got replaced with newer bells over time. And now everything comes out in favor of the Notifier NFS-320C. I'm reminded of how the Liberal Arts and Humanities buildings at my college recently went through such an upgrade. They were originally built in 1978 with Simplex 4207 fire alarm systems, with 4051+4050-80 horn/lights, 4255-1 and 4265 heat sensors and those same 4251-20 single-action pulls. Then in 2005 a Faraday MPC-7000 system was installed to cover both buildings, with Space Age Electronics VA4 horn/strobes, Faraday FireSmart smoke and heat detectors and addressable 8700-M "Chevron" pulls (that had dual-action adapter covers installed in 2008.) Then this summer both buildings each had their own Notifier system installed, probably an NFS-320 (an FDU-80 annunciator was installed in each building's entrance near the electrical rooms where the panels were installed), with those same System Sensor L-series horn/strobes, FSP-951 smoke detectors and NBG-12LX pulls. The rest of the college campus already mostly had Notifier systems installed, and so after being out of the loop for quite a while I am glad these two buildings finally hopped on the Notifier bandwagon!
@nics-systems-electric
@nics-systems-electric 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe this school was built in the early 1960s
@ncalarms6022
@ncalarms6022 3 жыл бұрын
Just as a side note, installers do not decide what volume setting to put the devices on. Your judgement of what is appropriate for the space is just as irrelevant as the selection of the devices themselves. I've been installing for four years and I have always been told that if a lower volume setting is required, it will be marked on the drawings. Elsewise, we do not touch the volume selector. I am glad you decided to revert that horn strobe back to high volume. If someone failed to hear that device for whatever reason, anything that happened to said individual would fall on you. Be cautious and know that the decisions you make can (and often do) impact the wellbeing and safety of others. On a much more positive note, the video is very well made and you are doing great work!
@nics-systems-electric
@nics-systems-electric 3 жыл бұрын
We had to install more horn strobes anyways because it failed the decibel test when we went around and checked volume in places
@nics-systems-electric
@nics-systems-electric 3 жыл бұрын
Now that I think of it the last two schools that were replaced We set them on low volume and in some of the schools I’ve turn down the volume where they’ve been louder than necessary I don’t think it should be done but it seems to be
@ncalarms6022
@ncalarms6022 3 жыл бұрын
@@nics-systems-electric I think that’s a good approach. I would only use the volume switch under the circumstance that db exceeds 100
@FireAlarm33
@FireAlarm33 3 жыл бұрын
I have a question. If the building has left over Brand New pull stations. Do you ever keep them or do they use them for something else? Nice video!
@nics-systems-electric
@nics-systems-electric 3 жыл бұрын
There was not any leftover but there was some left over heat detectors which were saved as spare parts and some of them when we did our verification did not work so we needed to get replaced I think I kept one or two of the functioning ones
@The1025RChannel
@The1025RChannel 2 жыл бұрын
@@nics-systems-electric you verified your own work? Or do you just mean you tested it before a fire alarm company did an official verification?
@nics-systems-electric
@nics-systems-electric 2 жыл бұрын
@@The1025RChannel Can’t remember how it worked out
@The1025RChannel
@The1025RChannel 2 жыл бұрын
Okay. I was just curious because I know in most places in Canada a verification has to be done by someone other than the installing contractor. An electrical contractor does the work and then a fire alarm company comes in after to verify it. Retrofits can sometimes be a grey area though.
@nics-systems-electric
@nics-systems-electric 2 жыл бұрын
@@The1025RChannel Yes I remember there was a certain way of verifying it legally as there was two parties basically the fire alarm company and the school district electricians who I was with
@smorris281
@smorris281 Жыл бұрын
It’s a crying shame taking down those bells, they’re the best!
@djijspeakerguy4628
@djijspeakerguy4628 2 жыл бұрын
My old middle school had an nfs-320 panel. Never seen this version before.
@jepps1021
@jepps1021 3 жыл бұрын
Replacing Edward's panels are the most satisfying panel swaps. Keep up the great content!
@nics-systems-electric
@nics-systems-electric 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@joeycaridi3030
@joeycaridi3030 2 жыл бұрын
16:42 Not everyone commented about this but I like how there's a STOP sign right underneath the pull station as it will STOP kids from pulling the fire alarm for fun!
@nics-systems-electric
@nics-systems-electric 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I don’t think that would stop anyone if they wanted to lol
@J19_vlogger74
@J19_vlogger74 Жыл бұрын
If only it was that easy
@dutchwolf2675
@dutchwolf2675 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting video. Cool that u can work with ur district. What are you gonna do with all of the old devices? Can't wait for more parts!
@nics-systems-electric
@nics-systems-electric 3 жыл бұрын
I only kept newer heat detectors and bells and pull stations
@Labboys-2
@Labboys-2 9 ай бұрын
My school has an addressable system but the art room has that recalled heat detector.
@Earth_Number_12
@Earth_Number_12 2 жыл бұрын
Mom can we have an Edwards 6616 Mom: We have a Edwards 6616 The Edwards 6616 at home: Beep Beep Beep Beep Beep
@captainchris2
@captainchris2 3 жыл бұрын
At My old school, only some alarms where replaced at a time, like we had Spectraalert classics, system sensor mass’s, bg12s, 7001s, chevron pulls, bg-8s (some older style), and some probably Mechanical wheelock horns not on light or strobe plates installed at the same time, there was also a fire bell but idk if it still works or not. And only the Spectraalerts did code 3, the rest did continuous.
@nics-systems-electric
@nics-systems-electric 3 жыл бұрын
Cool
@DanTDMJace
@DanTDMJace 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a mess of a system
@captainchris2016
@captainchris2016 Жыл бұрын
@@DanTDMJace it really is
@vrryan6
@vrryan6 3 жыл бұрын
School system upgrade videos are awesome!
@FireTech7
@FireTech7 3 жыл бұрын
Yes go to the new construction branch, it's so fun
@NyxKemo
@NyxKemo 3 жыл бұрын
My school’s fire alarm system is due to be replaced because a lot of devices fault and the firesheild panel either keeps crashing or keeps breaking. Idk why but firesheilds tend to be bad but very common here in the east part of canada
@johndeerefan725
@johndeerefan725 Жыл бұрын
A library I went to had an old Simplex system with 4251-20s and Simplex 6 inch bells and 9101 strobe plates but the only difference was that the new system was not Notifier, it was a EST system with the new G4AVRF LEDs and EST SIGA-278 pull stations.
@TejasGomadam
@TejasGomadam 23 күн бұрын
my school has sprinkler system and fire alarm system.Brand is Agni 4 zone panel
@Kansasavation
@Kansasavation 7 күн бұрын
When you do these replacements did they ever let you take some of the older alarms home?
@TemporalEngineering
@TemporalEngineering 3 жыл бұрын
20:09 Funny enough, I think us Canadian enthusiasts rately see them because its because you need FEDERAL GOVERNMENT APROVAL to install them here! That so fucking dumb!
@Twentythree33
@Twentythree33 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder who told you about that...
@TemporalEngineering
@TemporalEngineering 3 жыл бұрын
@@Twentythree33 XD
@a.r.aproductions1569
@a.r.aproductions1569 Жыл бұрын
Idk what it is, but whenever I install a Notifier FSP-951-IV, it’s so satisfying.
@nics-systems-electric
@nics-systems-electric Жыл бұрын
The way you slide the mounting base one way and then slide it the other way and then just tighten your screws and it's all done is really satisfying for sure
@Peekofwar
@Peekofwar Жыл бұрын
The high school I went to has horn strobes (if that's what they're called) in every room pretty much, and also has the intercom announcement.
@CRIMSONDECIMATION
@CRIMSONDECIMATION Ай бұрын
Yeah. Their hornstrobes.
@HenBasketFireAlarms
@HenBasketFireAlarms 3 жыл бұрын
Oh dang, lots of rare stuff. What was done with the old devices?
@nics-systems-electric
@nics-systems-electric 3 жыл бұрын
Threw out most of them but I kept a couple ones that I wanted
@HenBasketFireAlarms
@HenBasketFireAlarms 3 жыл бұрын
@@nics-systems-electric Nice
@FourtyFiftyEighty
@FourtyFiftyEighty 3 жыл бұрын
@@nics-systems-electric damn you should have kept them all and sold em
@nics-systems-electric
@nics-systems-electric 3 жыл бұрын
@@FourtyFiftyEighty Old recalled dirty and damaged devices?
@AadiPendse
@AadiPendse 3 жыл бұрын
@@nics-systems-electric Just sell them on eBay.
@wolfhard5758
@wolfhard5758 2 жыл бұрын
WHEN YOU THREW THE BOX FOR THE SMOKE DETECTOR 1 💀💀
@TheJakeman789
@TheJakeman789 2 жыл бұрын
I hope you get paid some money for it
@maxstechlab
@maxstechlab 3 жыл бұрын
Very cool can’t wait for the rest
@SirensAndAlarmsOfNorthernIL
@SirensAndAlarmsOfNorthernIL Жыл бұрын
That is my dream job right there
@nics-systems-electric
@nics-systems-electric Жыл бұрын
Are you going to become a Sparky?
@SirensAndAlarmsOfNorthernIL
@SirensAndAlarmsOfNorthernIL Жыл бұрын
@@nics-systems-electric idk what is it called in the U.S, but I found a job where you install and test fire alarm systems. Iirc it is just a fire alarm technician, but it depends on what you do depending on who you work for
@SytenixRBX
@SytenixRBX 3 жыл бұрын
I can’t wait for the test lol
@randymoller824
@randymoller824 Жыл бұрын
I always turned the address switches back and forth to wipe the contacts
@alexgilbert2
@alexgilbert2 2 жыл бұрын
damn that is a lotta alarms, imagine if you owned them
@GaryBeltz
@GaryBeltz 3 жыл бұрын
With all the bandages and everything on your arms etc you should be awarded a purple heart or whatever the Canadian equivalent is
@nics-systems-electric
@nics-systems-electric 3 жыл бұрын
It was because I crashed an electric scooter doing like 40 kilometre per hour lol
@ajsmusic723
@ajsmusic723 3 жыл бұрын
@@nics-systems-electric why do people let paint drip on the pull station
@nics-systems-electric
@nics-systems-electric 3 жыл бұрын
@@ajsmusic723 probably was an accident or the painters just didn’t care
@ajsmusic723
@ajsmusic723 3 жыл бұрын
@@nics-systems-electric ok
@Real_Kravity
@Real_Kravity Жыл бұрын
i thought the smokes were firelite! did not know notifier made those too
@nics-systems-electric
@nics-systems-electric Жыл бұрын
You can’t legally use fire lite on a notifier system all components have to be notifier or system sensor
@Real_Kravity
@Real_Kravity Жыл бұрын
@@nics-systems-electric oh
@thomaswhitten468
@thomaswhitten468 2 жыл бұрын
I have a question, what usually happens to fire alarm devices that got replaced?
@nics-systems-electric
@nics-systems-electric 2 жыл бұрын
Usually they are thrown out or recycled
@thomaswhitten468
@thomaswhitten468 2 жыл бұрын
@@nics-systems-electric also I forgot to mention that at my high school which has ceiling mount red spectralert advances on a notifier system kept going in alarm due to a malfunctioning smoke detector so they had to replace it, what usually happens to smoke detectors that causes the system to go in alarm?
@gregbouchard414
@gregbouchard414 Жыл бұрын
Keep up the good work on here mate am a big fan of u do a rally good job on KZfaq keep up there good work on KZfaq
@EASandtorndaosirens
@EASandtorndaosirens 5 ай бұрын
My school only changed the pull stations
@lumenfirealarms
@lumenfirealarms 3 жыл бұрын
What a great and cool day!! It's so nice that you get the chance to do this!! What brand was the old panel? That was a addressable or conventional panel? Stay safe and have fun!! ...
@nics-systems-electric
@nics-systems-electric 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks old panel was a Edwards 6616 which is conventional
@ryanelq
@ryanelq 9 ай бұрын
When will this happen to my school 😭😭😭😭 we literally had bells for so many years and then final year on ONE FLOOR (for first year students) got an upgrade 💁‍♀️🤦
@FESPerson2974
@FESPerson2974 10 ай бұрын
Duing my Seiner walk back in the day one of the FCI MS 2 they had in my Elementary school one of them was replaced with a Gamewell Pullstation which is similar to the Notifier BG12
@Kanisdel
@Kanisdel 2 жыл бұрын
I think the old pull station is better it’s so satisfying I’ve pulled like 50 of them in my life time
@tootiethepawpatrolpup
@tootiethepawpatrolpup 11 ай бұрын
Now I know how the Leo Hayes high school fire alarm got replaced q long time ago
@heckeroffical3862
@heckeroffical3862 Жыл бұрын
im watching all of your videos. KEEP UP AWESOME CONTENT :)
@scottconner5401
@scottconner5401 Жыл бұрын
The heat decter looks like a orange strobe
@apctech1
@apctech1 Жыл бұрын
we have to run and use fire alarm wiring with the red outer jacket for all our devices the older systems used white wire labeled ul listed smoke alarm signal wiring on the outer jackets with positive and negative marked
@kmk5239
@kmk5239 Жыл бұрын
0:30 that’s gotta be tens of thousands of dollars worth of equipment there.
@nics-systems-electric
@nics-systems-electric Жыл бұрын
Definitely
@donotprikel
@donotprikel Жыл бұрын
Does those smoke detectors have radioactive material in them like a normal house alarm
@nics-systems-electric
@nics-systems-electric Жыл бұрын
No that is only ionization detectors these are photoelectric
@donotprikel
@donotprikel Жыл бұрын
​@@nics-systems-electricwait in the video in the pull station packages I see a key for every pull station. Are they all different or does 1 key work for all
@nics-systems-electric
@nics-systems-electric Жыл бұрын
@@donotprikel all notifier products take the same key
@kmk5239
@kmk5239 Жыл бұрын
2:40 what about running it for a few more seconds by activating with its power off? You gotta drain whatever power it has left, there could be some residual electrical charges 😭
@nics-systems-electric
@nics-systems-electric Жыл бұрын
Wouldn't do anything batteries are unplugged AC is off even if it wasn't 24 vdc isn't gonna get you
@VOLTRONDEFENDER4440
@VOLTRONDEFENDER4440 3 жыл бұрын
why didnt you leave the simplex pull station and add a adressible module to it??
@vrryan6
@vrryan6 3 жыл бұрын
because they where replacing everything for addressable devices but had mini mods and cheap system sensor heats in wet areas, as Pickle 700 said "These are the rules that I did not make,"
@nics-systems-electric
@nics-systems-electric 3 жыл бұрын
Why the heck would we upgrade an entire system but not two pull stations I understand you like Simplex but this is the real world
@HenBasketFireAlarms
@HenBasketFireAlarms 3 жыл бұрын
@@nics-systems-electric my high school kept the four FCI MS-2’s in the auditorium, even though the new system is a Simplex 4100U. But I agree, it doesn’t make sense
@alexgilbert2
@alexgilbert2 2 жыл бұрын
I might consider doing this job as well. Great video! I love seeing fire alarm replacements.
@nics-systems-electric
@nics-systems-electric 2 жыл бұрын
@i support carlos So when the first EST system breaks then replace it with another EST system lol
@nics-systems-electric
@nics-systems-electric 2 жыл бұрын
@i support carlos we don’t use EST anymore they have been too unreliable we are going notifier
@captainchris2016
@captainchris2016 2 жыл бұрын
@@nics-systems-electric that person is an "obsessed idiot" with est stuff he is in a bunch of comments sections telling people to throw away their firelite or notifier systems and get est systems he will get over it someday
@alexgilbert2
@alexgilbert2 2 жыл бұрын
@i support carlos uh, no.. simplex Is amazing1!!1!1!!!1!1!!
@nics-systems-electric
@nics-systems-electric 2 жыл бұрын
@@alexgilbert2 yeah Simplex old products used to be real good but now their company has gone to crap
@skicai
@skicai 2 жыл бұрын
I like the old pull station
@jeffreysrailfanning2817
@jeffreysrailfanning2817 2 жыл бұрын
Simplex t bars are hard to open
@EASsirenVids01
@EASsirenVids01 Жыл бұрын
Looks like an early grades school They should teach 10s and 1s place with the pull stations!
@nics-systems-electric
@nics-systems-electric Жыл бұрын
K-5
@EASsirenVids01
@EASsirenVids01 Жыл бұрын
@@nics-systems-electric they could do that… although that’s not a good idea lol Invalid response every 5 seconds
@gregbouchard414
@gregbouchard414 Жыл бұрын
See ok u do a rally good job on here mate keep up there good work on here
@Alwaysdoinit112
@Alwaysdoinit112 Ай бұрын
I dislike bells those are what my school currently have along with some System sensor SR remote strobes.
@davidperry4013
@davidperry4013 Жыл бұрын
I want to see you install a voice evacuation system.
@nics-systems-electric
@nics-systems-electric Жыл бұрын
Probably won't ever see it as voice evacuation is only required in medical facilities and high-rise buildings
@bjthedjdutchdude1992
@bjthedjdutchdude1992 2 жыл бұрын
16:00 How are you able to work steady with that height? I would easily fall off.
@nics-systems-electric
@nics-systems-electric 2 жыл бұрын
Just used to doing it a lot I guess
@KanoaDeCastro
@KanoaDeCastro Жыл бұрын
7:34 Loudest pull station open ever
@nathanbirnofficial
@nathanbirnofficial 3 жыл бұрын
Wow lots of old parts to keep which parts did you keep?
@nics-systems-electric
@nics-systems-electric 3 жыл бұрын
I only kept the stuff I wanted like pull stations bells and the newer system sensor he detectors
@nathanbirnofficial
@nathanbirnofficial 3 жыл бұрын
@@nics-systems-electric you didn’t want the panel?
@nics-systems-electric
@nics-systems-electric 3 жыл бұрын
@@nathanbirnofficial no I don’t want a panel in constant trouble
@MichaelKsAlarms
@MichaelKsAlarms 6 ай бұрын
I have the Old simplex t Bars
@huntermcdaniel2436
@huntermcdaniel2436 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Pickle 700, Why Is The Fire Alarm System Being Replaced, Is It Just Old And Broken Down, Or Is It For Other Reasons?
@nics-systems-electric
@nics-systems-electric 3 жыл бұрын
Old system has an issue in the bored and communication issues to the annunciator so it stays in trouble beeping
@huntermcdaniel2436
@huntermcdaniel2436 3 жыл бұрын
@@nics-systems-electric Ok, So It's A Constant Trouble Issue, Ok That Makes Sense. That Could Be Really Problematic For The System To Stay In The Constant Intermitted Trouble, It Could Make The System Inoperable And That Would Be Really Bad.
@mikeross880
@mikeross880 3 жыл бұрын
I'd be interested in one of those old bells and silver heat detectors if you guys don't need them. They have super awesome collector value.
@nics-systems-electric
@nics-systems-electric 3 жыл бұрын
All the heat detectors went in the garbage
@mikeross880
@mikeross880 3 жыл бұрын
That's too bad but no bells either?
@dl7180
@dl7180 3 жыл бұрын
Hate it when the customer doesn’t wanna pay for new wire. Most generally the old wire is ran like shit. If it was a grandfather fire alarm system
@nics-systems-electric
@nics-systems-electric 3 жыл бұрын
Nothing wrong with the old wire here and it’s not like you can non-destructively Re-pull bx I suppose you could re-pull everything that is in pipe but wouldn’t be any point of it really
@Kansasavation
@Kansasavation 7 күн бұрын
What’s the benefit of heat detectors over smoke detectors?
@nics-systems-electric
@nics-systems-electric 7 күн бұрын
They have a lower cost and are much less sensitive and some areas can only have heat detectors due to temperature or other reasons
@dexterthewulf3637
@dexterthewulf3637 2 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure NewAgeServerAlarm had that Notifier panel
@nics-systems-electric
@nics-systems-electric 2 жыл бұрын
May be a 320 probably not a 320 C that’s what I have and what was in the school
@dexterthewulf3637
@dexterthewulf3637 2 жыл бұрын
@@nics-systems-electric you are correct, I forgot about that not being a C model
@dexterthewulf3637
@dexterthewulf3637 2 жыл бұрын
@@nics-systems-electric I’m curious about the difference between the models?
@nics-systems-electric
@nics-systems-electric 2 жыл бұрын
@@dexterthewulf3637 not much other than the cabinet/panel has room for zone annunciation and maybe small program differences but I’m not sure
@CJ9899
@CJ9899 3 жыл бұрын
Did you save any of those 4251s?
@nics-systems-electric
@nics-systems-electric 3 жыл бұрын
Yes I kept both of them one of them was cracked though
@CJ9899
@CJ9899 3 жыл бұрын
@@nics-systems-electric are You willing to sell or trade the cracked one?
@nics-systems-electric
@nics-systems-electric 3 жыл бұрын
@@CJ9899 we’ll see not sure. I might have to get rid of some of the devices as I have too many now right now they’re still sitting in a cardboard box on the floor lol typically I’ve never sold anything as that would give away my location as where it’s coming from
@HenBasketFireAlarms
@HenBasketFireAlarms 3 жыл бұрын
@@nics-systems-electric I’m not sure if Canada has PO Boxes, but if so that could be something to consider
@nics-systems-electric
@nics-systems-electric 3 жыл бұрын
@@HenBasketFireAlarms I’m not really good with all that stuff so I’ve just never bothered
@Vigilance108
@Vigilance108 2 жыл бұрын
This Was Interesting You Earned A Sub
@nics-systems-electric
@nics-systems-electric 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks I appreciate it
@Vigilance108
@Vigilance108 2 жыл бұрын
What Happened To The Simplex T-Bars?
@nics-systems-electric
@nics-systems-electric 2 жыл бұрын
@@Vigilance108 There was only two of them I took them with me
@Vigilance108
@Vigilance108 2 жыл бұрын
Oh Ok Thanks
@firealarm300andmore4
@firealarm300andmore4 3 жыл бұрын
Can you do part 2
@nics-systems-electric
@nics-systems-electric 3 жыл бұрын
Yo I said in the video there was going to be part two and the title of this video is part one so of course it’s going to be part two
@Samthe17
@Samthe17 3 жыл бұрын
When?
@nics-systems-electric
@nics-systems-electric 3 жыл бұрын
@@Samthe17 Wednesday
@ajsmusic723
@ajsmusic723 3 жыл бұрын
@@nics-systems-electric WOW people never read titles and descriptions, I dont know why.
@nics-systems-electric
@nics-systems-electric 3 жыл бұрын
@@ajsmusic723 True I’m always extra careful to read titles and descriptions and watch the whole video before I comment a question
@IanGSully
@IanGSully Жыл бұрын
I know I am kinda stating the obvious, but did some portions of the system have to get rewired when the system was converted to Addressable?
@nics-systems-electric
@nics-systems-electric Жыл бұрын
No iso-6 was installed where the zones were tied into to turn them into addressable
@IanGSully
@IanGSully Жыл бұрын
@@nics-systems-electric Ahhh, I see.
@battytec
@battytec 2 жыл бұрын
How come over that side of the pond heat detectors are so frequently used? Over here in the UK everything is smoke detection or multisensors. Surely by the time a heat detector goes off the damage will already be done?
@nics-systems-electric
@nics-systems-electric 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah you don’t see them much in new buildings just old ones where you would usually have sprinklers but if there’s not sprinklers you use heats in place of sprinklers as they both detect heat just one only activates a system one also put water out
@battytec
@battytec 2 жыл бұрын
@@nics-systems-electric ah interesting. Whenever a system gets upgraded over here the main change is usually detection. When they replaced the system at my school, they went from opticals in the corridors only to opticals and multis basically everywhere.
@Corotate
@Corotate Жыл бұрын
when you said "the painters wont be happy about that" i am saying OFCORSE THEIR HAPPY The More Work The More MOOOOOLAHHHHHHH $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
@harveylong5878
@harveylong5878 Жыл бұрын
creating unnecessary work for school district painters tends to piss them off. they already have enough to do over the summer etc. you start adding annoying touchups etc to their workload, its a good way to get on their bad side
@SimplePodcastVR
@SimplePodcastVR Жыл бұрын
@@harveylong5878 What i said is they are getting more money!
@everythinghomerepair1747
@everythinghomerepair1747 2 жыл бұрын
Were those aluminum wires I saw behind that one pull station?
@nics-systems-electric
@nics-systems-electric 2 жыл бұрын
No it was all copper I thought the same thing at first but it’s just discoloured from the insulation
@MrWill1985
@MrWill1985 10 ай бұрын
What year did this school open? My first elementary school kept the pull stations in the same locations but used new wiring for the indicators. My 2nd elementary school and middle school re wired the new system to install
@nics-systems-electric
@nics-systems-electric 10 ай бұрын
Mid 60s
@MrWill1985
@MrWill1985 10 ай бұрын
@@nics-systems-electric thank you. My 2nd elementary school opened in 65 and got upgraded to est integrity after expanding and eventually replaced them with the genesis. And hopefully my high school didn't keep the 1949 wiring when renovating in the late 90s.
@ScantPear
@ScantPear 2 жыл бұрын
How did you get to do that???
@nics-systems-electric
@nics-systems-electric 2 жыл бұрын
Because I work with the electrical department of my school district
@ScantPear
@ScantPear 2 жыл бұрын
@@nics-systems-electric how can I do that??? With my district
@nics-systems-electric
@nics-systems-electric 2 жыл бұрын
@@ScantPear I am not sure it’s a very unique position that I am in I am the first one in my district to have ever done it it isn’t really a program or anything it was just knowing the right people and fighting with management to get it to be allowed it is not a paid thing
@ScantPear
@ScantPear 2 жыл бұрын
@@nics-systems-electric oh ok but a high school in my district is getting a new system and the old one has spectralerts and I really want the spectralerts badly…
@nics-systems-electric
@nics-systems-electric 2 жыл бұрын
@@ScantPear You could ask worse they can say is they can’t give it to you
@ScantPear
@ScantPear Жыл бұрын
18:53 is that a single stroke bell that you just took down?
@nics-systems-electric
@nics-systems-electric Жыл бұрын
Non of them were
@firealarm300andmore4
@firealarm300andmore4 3 жыл бұрын
Cool
@firealarm421
@firealarm421 Жыл бұрын
Did you get to keep any of the bells
@nics-systems-electric
@nics-systems-electric Жыл бұрын
yes i did keep the old bells
@dripking1747
@dripking1747 11 ай бұрын
You’re the best
@RyansColoradoRailProductions
@RyansColoradoRailProductions 2 жыл бұрын
Were you able to keep the 6616 panel?
@nics-systems-electric
@nics-systems-electric 2 жыл бұрын
No I didn’t want it so we threw it out
@Earth_Number_12
@Earth_Number_12 2 жыл бұрын
Hi ryan
@user-ng5ps9dc5f
@user-ng5ps9dc5f 8 ай бұрын
My middle school has a elevator and very old alarms so do they need to have voice evacuation and replace them
@nics-systems-electric
@nics-systems-electric 8 ай бұрын
Totally depends on where you are
@squdineycarolsims4825
@squdineycarolsims4825 3 жыл бұрын
Is The spectra alert classic more quieter than the advance?
@nics-systems-electric
@nics-systems-electric 3 жыл бұрын
Not sure I just know they’re a different tone
@Caryfirebuff
@Caryfirebuff 2 жыл бұрын
Question with the old devices what do you do with them
@nics-systems-electric
@nics-systems-electric 2 жыл бұрын
Keep ones I want and throw out the rest
@jacobflanigan6343
@jacobflanigan6343 3 жыл бұрын
Will the new panel do fire suppression as well?
@nics-systems-electric
@nics-systems-electric 3 жыл бұрын
We have no fire suppression in the building but you could monitor sprinklers or a type of releasing system
@jacobflanigan6343
@jacobflanigan6343 3 жыл бұрын
okay
@matthewwarren1789
@matthewwarren1789 Жыл бұрын
Holy moley man what’s with all the cuts and band-aids bro, u look like you’ve been at war.
@nics-systems-electric
@nics-systems-electric Жыл бұрын
Yeah I crashed on an electric scooter lol
@matthewwarren1789
@matthewwarren1789 Жыл бұрын
Dang bro
@applebottomjeans7145
@applebottomjeans7145 3 жыл бұрын
Did you get to keep some of the old Devices and the panel?
@nics-systems-electric
@nics-systems-electric 3 жыл бұрын
Yes I took the new heat detectors all the pull stations and all the bells I did not keep the panel as it doesn’t function
@Savior4476
@Savior4476 2 жыл бұрын
I want to help you with the fire alarm system replacement please 🙏
@RaccoonAlarmsVosgra
@RaccoonAlarmsVosgra 2 жыл бұрын
Do you ever get to keep the old equipment???
@nics-systems-electric
@nics-systems-electric 2 жыл бұрын
Yes but I don’t usually keep everything just stuff I want if I can save it in time usually I’m quick enough and get a box and put the stuff I want in it and just write on it Nic’s stuff
@gavinproduction7433
@gavinproduction7433 Жыл бұрын
So the wiring they put in the building under construction is any time of fire alarm
@nics-systems-electric
@nics-systems-electric Жыл бұрын
what are you asking exactly?
@gavinproduction7433
@gavinproduction7433 Жыл бұрын
@@nics-systems-electric so the wiring inside the fire alarm the red and blue were already made for any type of alarm
@Reidsbusesanditems
@Reidsbusesanditems Жыл бұрын
Just wondering why it says stop under every pull station
@nics-systems-electric
@nics-systems-electric Жыл бұрын
For the kids to not pull them I guess
@harveylong5878
@harveylong5878 Жыл бұрын
ours say STOP cuz our system doesnt callout automatically to 911 etc. cheapass owners wont spend the money to crawl out of the 60's
@J19_vlogger74
@J19_vlogger74 2 жыл бұрын
2:16 what on earth happened to your hand
@nics-systems-electric
@nics-systems-electric 2 жыл бұрын
Crashed on a electric scooter
@J19_vlogger74
@J19_vlogger74 2 жыл бұрын
@@nics-systems-electric ouch. what's your worst injury if you don't mind me asking?
@nics-systems-electric
@nics-systems-electric 2 жыл бұрын
@@J19_vlogger74 As far as stuff that will never heal that was probably my worst injury
@J19_vlogger74
@J19_vlogger74 2 жыл бұрын
@@nics-systems-electric good to hear you not getting hurt too bad, mine was a chuck of metal flying across the room and split my hand open about an inch.
@nics-systems-electric
@nics-systems-electric 2 жыл бұрын
@@J19_vlogger74 that’s not good how did that happen? the hand that was all scratched and bleeding is healed but my other hand I landed on I can’t move it quite as far as I used to and it clicks and sometimes hurts lol
@farshadfarivar8618
@farshadfarivar8618 Жыл бұрын
Give me a fire alarm 🚨
@nics-systems-electric
@nics-systems-electric Жыл бұрын
Sure you can buy them on eBay
@docbrownsradiolab1220
@docbrownsradiolab1220 2 жыл бұрын
Hello sir, do you ever replace old Simplex panels? I'm a collector who will be getting into the field as a career soon and I'm looking for a 4002, 4004, or 4005. I also collect used devices so if you ever have a few old horns or notification devices I would love to save them from the garbage. Preserving this old equipment is important to me as I build demo systems for every panel I have. I currently have a 4001 and a 4010. I'm also looking for an FCI 7100. Thanks for your great videos!
@nics-systems-electric
@nics-systems-electric 2 жыл бұрын
I only work in my school district so we only replaceable one system a year we only have two Simplex systems one is only five years old so it will be there for a while unless it keeps having issues the other simplex system is a little older being 1996 but isn’t the highest priority to get done so I unfortunately won’t be removing any Simplex systems for a while
@docbrownsradiolab1220
@docbrownsradiolab1220 2 жыл бұрын
@@nics-systems-electric I see, thank you for your reply. If that 1996 system ever gets replaced I'd be interested in the panel and a few devices. I love this old Simplex stuff. My email is in the about page if you ever wish to contact me. I am also interested in something like an FCI 7100 or a Notifier panel as I have a few addressable modules for those that I was given a few years ago.
@gregbouchard414
@gregbouchard414 Жыл бұрын
Hi mate how are u ok mate u do a rally good job on here mate keep up there good work on here
@nics-systems-electric
@nics-systems-electric Жыл бұрын
Hey, thanks
@hersheyparkaddictionsoffical
@hersheyparkaddictionsoffical 2 жыл бұрын
My school kinda has voice Evac because it had a extension so yeah.
@IanGSully
@IanGSully 3 жыл бұрын
I thought it was an NFS-320C.
@nics-systems-electric
@nics-systems-electric 3 жыл бұрын
Yes it is
@Ron_TTE
@Ron_TTE Жыл бұрын
7:09 what is that switch thing you were turning
@nics-systems-electric
@nics-systems-electric Жыл бұрын
Address rotary dial it's what sets the address of the device
@FarmerJacob837
@FarmerJacob837 3 жыл бұрын
Has the panel been thrown out?
@nics-systems-electric
@nics-systems-electric 3 жыл бұрын
Yes
@MarcusTheDorkus
@MarcusTheDorkus Жыл бұрын
Why in the world is a video of a dude replacing fire alarms in HDR?! XD
@Ron2600_
@Ron2600_ Жыл бұрын
144p HDR
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