He's not American or one of the judges bumchums though so...much like 2019. Deserved a podium at least. All you have to do to win is be old and ride to the bottom without falling off, apparantly.

agreed 100% best ride by far

#BRENROBBED

100% he should have had 1st

Exactly, i can’t blame him for not doing a second run with the danger level and knowing that you won’t get a realistic judges score, he rode a freeride line and got sod all in return

hes not Amercican, biased yank judging after that frontie is a joke.

It's big mountain freeride, dude, not slopestyle. Alba went slow and took the easiest, smoothest line possible.

this is why you aren't a judge.

@@N_Parrish really, is that the reason? Idiot.

Exactly this. I will say the second run was slow start but best ending.

Watching Cam's run a 2nd time, it was more impressive than I initially thought. I also liked Bren and Bian's runs better, but Cam deserved to be up there. The biggest head scratcher for me is Van Steen. Yeah the drop-in to start was nice, but the rest was .... meh. Relatively speaking of course. All of those guys and runs were amazing!

2 runs and not close to B-dogs, this is silly...

Lile last year. But he cant get the win for some reason

judges should be neutral...

Man that flip was worth the win, way bigger than anything Brendan did

Bienvenidos means welcome it’s not his name bro

It is his name!!

@@brodoii7215 dude... 😂

For sure- beinve should have won in my opinion

The other guys won medals but Brendan and Bienveido won hearts

Bien shoulda wonnnn

It seems like they were awarding points for nostalgia more than anything else. Bienve deserved a podium at least for front-flipping the canyon TWICE

Only 2 times the winner has been chosen from outside North America. It will also be 10 years next year.

I mean yes, but it's hard to see past the injustice

Yeah. Idk how anyone can watch this and agree with the judges. That's why I don't watch live. I skip over the stupid scoring, and just watch the runs.

Fan faves don't need a trophy

95 points Zink got for a couple flips and Nacnac’s is fanboy status by the judges. Forgot to add, I’m a fan of Zink. Wild judging out in the Utah desert.

Mountain bikers are literally the coolest people on earth.

Brendog and Bienve 100000% should have been 1&2 in either order (imo). They were both nutty. The judging of these events never make an ounce of sense. I've kinda stopped watching Crankworx slopestyle events because I couldn't fathom some of their judging. It's frustrating as a viewer. I can't imagine how annoying it is for the competitors.

💯

Judges dont like European riders! Just watch the results in the last few years. Rampage turned into shame!!!

@@zog6940 true💯💯

Could not agree more! These judges have NO idea what they are doing and it's apparent at this stage, they don't want Europeans to win, at all costs. I don't even know why they judge these things, they get it SOO wrong. SOO many riders that put down the best runs, didn't even podium. Yet riders who did 1-2 things well, while the rest of their run was vanilla and uninteresting won. It's SUCH a joke and ruins watching these events. Because you know the best runs aren't going to win. This seems to be a pretty common theme in almost all "Extreme Sports" events. The judges view things SOO differently from one another, even to event and year to year and there is never any cohesion or uniformity of how the rides or runs are judged. I know most of these guys probably don't even care, but for a lot of the rest of us and some of the athletes it does, and it RUINS watching these events. Watching a well made video of your favorite extreme athlete is a thousand times better than watching these rigged poorly judged events. BRENDOG, your run was INSANE! Was THE BEST and we can't thank you enough for doing such an amazing run. And especially at your age! Showing all the younger guys how it's done AND with gobs of style shows you are THE BEST.

norbs was robbed

I wonder if he didn't ride a aecond time because he knew what was going to happen after he saw his score.

@@johnfriedl7126 That or he put all his chickens into that run and didn't want to risk getting injured. That run was insane. I couldn't see what would have made it any better.

@@johnfriedl7126 I think this. I am sure he wanted to add a flip tuck to his run but knew the judges would award a maximum of .5 to his score no matter what he did

The top part of his run was mid. I think he got the score he deserved

@@gatord0gThis. People can't get trough their heads the whole run is judged

😂😂 cam zink besides that back flip was mid honestly this event is judged by blind men

judging system isn't that bad, the problem are the judges themself, all american's, so of course they wanna makes they're friend's win...

Every year Brendog gets robbed by the slopestyle judges, they really need to overhaul the judging and go back to its roots of freeriding and not slopestyle

This is an ideal event to be judged by the riders themselves even if they all put themselves in first, whoever gets the most votes for runner-up would be the winner.

Its kind of sad how a bunch of fans can seem to come to a majority agreement on the best run every year(Bienve and Bren this year), but the judges continue to be most impressed by the age and prior wins of the rider. I rarely make comments on judging but its really a problem with Rampage. Just feel for the riders. Putting their lives on the line for our entertainment and cant even be properly appreciated by the contest itself. Pathetic tbh

They're not Merican with a sob story. Whooooop yeeeeeahhhh Merica world champions in Merica at every sport .

He would've won if he didn't end his run 2/3 the way down the hill lol

Much like 2019 @BrendanFairclough was robbed. He's not one of the judges bumchums. Deserved a podium at least. All you have to do to win is be old and ride to the bottom without falling off, apparantly. It was a spectacle but also a fix, again.

I was hoping he would win...easily the biggest, most risky sends. Although Biens front flip was gnarly also

@@spencerpearson6250 I think it was between them two

Yeah instant death canyon gap if not sent 100% vs Acid drop which can be slid out of if not, there’s no contest

Only thing i could see where the judges would find criticism in Bren-dog's run compared to the others was his wasnt quite as flowwing with consistent speed he came to a near stop before entering his features.

100% agree! Judges backed themselves into a corner by over pointing Van Steenbergen's run, and there's zero way Zink's run deserved a 95!

Unfortuanatley it is judges who maybe get a little too excited. Zink was a 6th place this year. Think he knows it too. If he watched the others

Yall are high af. Bienve and Zink had the best runs by a long shot. Ur just suggin dicc.

That flip from zink was crazy tho

@@matt1760 not for 9.5...

If you don't want scoring why are you crying about scoring? haha

I agree: if the scoring is pointless, they shouldn't bother. The "secondary" awards of people's choice and McGazza are more meaningful anyway. Andreu Lacondeguy would have won every year, just like Bienve did this year.

Should be rider's choice and viewer's choice. Everyone picks a top 3 and averaging them out. Judges were shitter than ever this year

​@withneilw9146 Riders Choice always gets screwed up. All the Riders have too much inside info and feel like this guy or that guy deserves it for some other reason than the actual riding. It would definitely be cool to have the public be able to enter a score for each Rider to act as another judge. Might keep it more realistic.

It should be judged by the athletes like Kings and Queens of Corbets!

Almost like it was a token win...

Much like 2019 @BrendanFairclough was robbed. He's not one of the judges bumchums. Deserved a podium at least. All you have to do to win is be old and ride to the bottom without falling off, apparantly. It was a spectacle but also a fix, again.

unfortunately, these slopestyle judges will never recognise the greatness of Brendogs lines and perfect runs

@@sogood7435 I'm surprised they didn't just give Emil the win for no reason like most Crankworx events.

fantastic son not ph

Agree. This is the second time he got robbed. It should be a podium at least. Cam Zink did some crazy stuff just didn’t feel as gnarly. Arguably a good win though.

They are mtb pioneers they know what their judgeing...

What? So stupid riding.. children trucks..

Simple answer, not from North America. 😤

redbull has the most corrupt judges, if they let the riders judge each other it would be 100% unbiased!!! crankworx is just as bad!!!

Monster athlete

It's crap. I don't know if there was another ride who would have even thought to build the stuff he was riding.

corrupt judges, that same line did not win 10 -13 years ago and now gets him 1st? Redbull events like crankworx and rampage have the most corrupt or if not corrupt the most incompetent judges in action sports history!!! brendog got robbed hardcore!!! the battle ship is much more dangerous than that caveman or ninja drop and its been done before, not like that was anything new!!!

I agree with the conclusion but lets not bring in danger as a judgement. Style and difficulty should be enough.

@@matthiasannaberger2469 you def dont know what rampage is all about!!! you agree that a run that was thrown 10 plus years ago that got 5th place then gets 1st place 10 years later? The riders have two weeks to make a line, line is a big part of the comp and risk and reward has always been a thing at rampage!!!

@@incredible5587 doesnt stand in conflict to what i said. I know that there is a lot of risk, and thats okay. But rewarding danger rather then style and tech is stupid on so many levels. I mean why Not play russian roulette with your knee at the top, that definately gives you danger points. NO! Just accept the danger and dont put it into judging.

These were my favorite three as well, but watching it a second time, Zink's run was better than I thought. I can't argue with him in the top 3.

@@trp6 Was amazing but only 90+ and 5 points away from perfect 🤷🏼‍♀️ When so many riders were given such low scores

@withneilw9146 yeah, for sure his score was ridiculous

took a while to find someone shouting out talus' 2nd run - definitely deserved mid 80s scoring, given similar runs/scores from others that were given that

Talus!!!! 🤗🥹🥲💪🏼😌 just floored! So excited for you! So happy/proud/awed etc. you’ve been jumping, climbing, skating, boarding, riding everything you could since, well, forever. 😊🚴🏔💫🙌🏻☺️ So awesome to watch you out there. (Also, 🫣😂) Big Congrats! 🎉

It's been a while since I felt so terrified. Even more as I have watched all the different videos on the build of that line and I knew what was coming.

Much like 2019 @BrendanFairclough was robbed. He's not one of the judges bumchums. Deserved a podium at least. All you have to do to win is be old and ride to the bottom without falling off, apparantly. It was a spectacle but also a fix, again.

I was screaming at that. His run was absolutely insane at the end.

Bienvenido got robbed at its best. Such a shame!

Tbh the biased judging in favour of zink, and the over hype he gets, puts me off him.

wouldn't be surprised if they don't come back, don't get enough recognition for their work

1000%

​@@creelick_foto They are getting tons of recognition - but not by the judges...

@@Schmiddelwutz2000 yeah that’s true, 🤷🏼‍♂️

why didnt he do a 2nd run??

@@azzybaby Not sure but his first run was super neat so I guess he was decided to leave it at that?

Asking myself the same thing… anyone?!?

He's not American or one of the judges bumchums though so...much like 2019. Deserved a podium at least. All you have to do to win is be old and ride to the bottom without falling off, apparantly.

Not a chance he won that , a sui no hander vs a clean af front flip.... not even the same galaxy

Now 17:45

Thats Emil? Is that old?

I am sorry to say - YES!

No. 2008 was the utter worst. 2004 is an honorable mention

Exactly while also being one of the best in terms of production values..

but not easy to judge something like this

fax

His was good, but Bren0was better. They should have been the top two. With Emil in third.

I'm still wondering why the 5 of them were in the same room circle jerking each other... would it not make sense to have them in separate rooms???

I said shame on the judges too, its bad tbh.

Agree, the judges really butchered this one.

The top part of his run was mid.

localism

​@@gatord0gBet you couldnt ride that top part. So how is it mid then? The end of his run was insane. 3 ridiculous tricks in a row.

@@thedude8526 Is he racing a guy in the youtube comments or is he racing top tier mountainbikers? Others did tricks or had speed at the top of the run. He cruised to his big trick.

@suckieduckie He did 3 huge tricks back to back all on really large gaps. The difficulty to do all those the way he did was impressive. The rest of the competition had their tricks fairly spread out. He should have at least been in the top 5.

Facts

Buddy did a front flip over a mint shape jump … who cares … if he does that front flip off a 60 foot flat drop then we’ll talk

I mean, I get why Bienve didn’t win overall, but to say that front flip is nothing is ignorant, judges gave him best trick even. it is iconic and will be a highlight for years to come. Smooth jump with clean sight lines? Sure. But front flip landings are always blind, there is a reason he was the first to do it on that feature.

Agreed

If the judges have to award a tie then so be it, but Bienvenido deserved the spot completely.

I don’t know anything, but the top half of Bienvenido’s run felt like setup for the bangers towards the bottom.

I read the judge’s explanations, and it makes sense why they did some things the way they did. But yea I think he should have been way higher up.

yes, but zink for 3rd

Much like 2019 @BrendanFairclough was robbed. He's not one of the judges bumchums. Deserved a podium at least. All you have to do to win is be old and ride to the bottom without falling off, apparantly. It was a spectacle but also a fix, again.

@@TheMoodyedge how many times are you going to say the same thing lol

@@idrinkcolt As many as I like..I'm ok for now.

What? Brendan so stupid riding, 4/5 place , you seriously? First him 🤣🤣,

😂

Agreed. If it wasn’t for the awful judging everyone would be saying how much better the coverage was, drone footage was 🤌🏻

So everyone gets a trophy? 😆 i get what you’re saying but i disagree at the same time. No matter what, they are all winners in our book but they need to compete as it’s what drives sports and the spirit of competition in general. Just to say “I competed in rampage” is gnarly but to say “I’ve won rampage” is just a whole new level of gnarly. For us, no doubt all winners, but we need em to compete or it just becomes a showcase with no reward. At least that’s my opinion… that no one asked for 😆

the riders should vote for each other then there would be a unbiased score, thats how they used to do at at audi nines before swatch took over!!!

@@jrive075 They're not really competing against one another. Their line is built based on what they think is possible, and their community discusses, works, and creates these lines based on this. So, it's not "everyone gets a trophy", it's more like no trophy is really necessary. The competition comes from within, and the cooperation between individuals who strive for the best they can do pushes the whole thing forward. The idea that any one of those individuals did not reach the highest level is an illusion, and rewarding 1st, 2nd, 3rd, etc is not really representative of the reality. I'd rather see and celebrate the 54 people who dug and rode this out partying it up with one another as a community, than three people on a podium.

I think there's a lot to this idea - I think you could have awards that are decided/voted on by the riders themselves and that would still work.

@@jrive075 its funny i did not read this when i posted my comment!!! i live right next to highland bike park and couple years ago i was on the lift with a guy and we were talking big drops and he casually tells me he won rampage, who was next to me but in a helmet and casual cloths. Kyle Strait!!! he comes up to teach people how to jump for a week a year!!!

I would put Thomas Genon in 3rd and swap Brendog and Bien, but totally agree otherwise

Much like 2019 @BrendanFairclough was robbed. He's not one of the judges bumchums. Deserved a podium at least. All you have to do to win is be old and ride to the bottom without falling off, apparantly. It was a spectacle but also a fix, again.

Z tego co wiem, wszystko jest git, przestawił tylko nadgarstek. JESTEŚMY Z TOBĄ SZYMON 💪

@@jeszcze.bardziej.obsrane_ajca nie pamiętam dokładnie, ale miał przejazd około 2-3h

​@@jeszcze.bardziej.obsrane_ajca2.28h

Kurde za małe lądowanie, ale wszystkiego nie da się przewidzieć. TRZYMAJ SIĘ SZYMON!

Trzymałem kciuki jak co roku. Zdrówka Szymon❤

I don't see something that spectacular in tvs's run apart from that caveman drop in... that 78 points from Bienvenido are rediculosly low....

Yea the only way it could really be a judged course was if everyone took the same line

Exactly! That’s another layer of confusion in judging 👍🏼

@@RolandKaufmann i feel like the riders really show though that they’re not necessarily competing against each other because they all show love and they really know what’s at stake

@@slowmobius2136quite a few riders that improved on their second runs looked pretty bummed to see their score nudged up by the tiniest of margins so as not to affect the remember-the-good-times crew having their love-in

he is but not the best for rampage because all he was focused on was the tricks and i get it, thats his game but he really only spoke of the tricks and this event is more than tricks!!! dont get me wrong he is by far my favorite slope rider and he has the people skills and can explain tricks well!!!

Zink is also a monster athlete so no