Looks really really good. Thanks for the great info
@Dr_Xyzt4 жыл бұрын
You can still get the hologram effect / chatoyance. I re-did an AK and watched your video before I did it. 1. Sand to bright wood, until you get to a 220 grit finish, (you can do 320, but you have to use fresh paper with light pressure.) 2. Stain with Sedona Red Stain by dipping a shop towel in the stain, then squeezing the stain back out of the cloth. 3.5 . Optional - soak some boiled linseed oil into the wood. The aforementioned oil stain was supposed to fix that though. 3. Using amber shellac and an 8 oz cup, add two shot glasses of denatured alcohol, and 1 shot glass of shellac. (1lb cut.) Saturate a shop towel with this shellac mixture and apply it with long strokes, making sure it soaks into the wood. This is how you get the 3D effect. For more orange color, go ahead and use Shellac straight out of the can. If you want, you can French Polish your gun.
@Or3guns7 ай бұрын
Is the iodine what gives it the hologram effect???
@Dr_Xyzt7 ай бұрын
@@Or3guns -- All wood gives you a hologram effect. You need a finish that soaks into the wood as well as builds a protective layer. This is why I suggested diluting amber shellac into alcohol. The alcohol thins the shellac out so it's easier for it to soak in to the wood. You MUST keep the gun out of moisture in order to preserve the finish. -- Iodine helps give you the color. There are MANY ways to get color though. My comment is 5 years old now, so I have better ways of doing it now. -- You can use a shop towel to wipe Gunstock stain on the stock to get a red-ish color. Then after a day of cure time, wipe it with a shop towel wetted with rubbing alcohol. This will reduce the intensity of the stain and clean the pores in the wood. Then, add coats of Tung oil, or Antique oil. This should take about 8 coats. It's more moisture resistant. You can get a water-proof setup with Epoxy, but you need to use water or alcohol based dye. I simply haven't experimented enough with that process to make any suggestions though. My epoxy work is typically done on surfaces that are already attractive and we're just trying to preserve that appearance.
@Or3guns7 ай бұрын
@@Dr_Xyzt Cool thank you so much for replying. When you say gunstock stain do you mean the gunstock 231 color stain? Did you thin the iodine at all and how did you apply it?
@Dr_Xyzt7 ай бұрын
@@Or3guns Yes, gunstock 231. No iodine at all. Stain it and let it sit overnight. Wipe excess with an alcohol dampened shop towel. If you want it more brown, you can put a light coat of black walnut on first. Gunstock stain has a bit of red in it. Apply coats of Minwax Tung Oil or Antique oil as instructed on the can.
@Or3guns7 ай бұрын
@@Dr_Xyzt You only do 1 coat? I'm going for an orange color with maybe a hint of yellow/redish/brown
@brucecamparmament3728 Жыл бұрын
wow you nailed it!
@hamletthaus30465 ай бұрын
Very informative video. Thanks!
@johnmal8014 жыл бұрын
Great video. Thanks . I really enjoyed the info. Thinking about doing this to a rifle...
@Or3guns6 ай бұрын
Did you do it?
@ericsanford70753 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!!!!
@larespuertorico3 ай бұрын
Beautiful
@ehal23035 жыл бұрын
Hell yeah man thanks!
@ThatNikeKixKid5 жыл бұрын
Of course!
@xfirehurican5 жыл бұрын
How about Minwax Sedona Red? GREAT JOB on both! Helpful!
@connorhicks92584 жыл бұрын
So far so good, I did a lot of prep, sanded to a very smooth finish and its soaking up the iodine great. Im going to use Garnet shellac instead of amber to see how it looks.
@Or3guns7 ай бұрын
Does it look orange or is it kinda brown like his is?
@majormassenspektrometer6 ай бұрын
I read it's better to get shellac chips and mix with turpentine to a thicker mix so you get the brush texture of shellac on the wood.
@Or3guns6 ай бұрын
The shellac he mentioned in this video is actually pretty thick. It will give you the brush strokes your looking for like the Russian's. The advantage the chips have is they have a longer shelf life and you can mix up as much as you need and not waste any.
@majormassenspektrometer6 ай бұрын
@@Or3guns Yeah read that too. I ordered amber and ruby shellac to test it out on my bare stock. Hope the results will be good. That stuff is expensive... And I was wrong, you mix it with ethanol/alcohol not with turpentine...
@Or3guns6 ай бұрын
@@majormassenspektrometer Ya it's super expensive. That's the only thing stopping me from ordering a bunch of different colors of shellac's and dye stains. So you must of went with the flakes then? Are you gonna use both or mix them or do some testing and pick the best one?
@majormassenspektrometer6 ай бұрын
@@Or3guns I've been reading on the internet about original russian AKM finishes for about three days now and if you google for it, you get some pretty good advice from it. What I want to try out is from a website from which the author makes a pretty knowledgeable impression. For Izhmash Finish he writes to use 2.5-3.0lb cut pure shellac (ruby) and apply 2-3 layers max. For the Tula finish one should use dark pine tar as a 50/50 mix with turpentine, apply it, let it dry then rub the excess pine tar off with a turpentine soaked cloth and after that apply ruby shellac. That is what I want to try out. I ordered some different coloured flakes like ruby and amber. Just want to try out different things. I also got Swedish dark pine tar and turpentine to go with it. Just for trying it out I spent more money than I'm comfortable with but what the heck you only live once.
@majormassenspektrometer6 ай бұрын
@@Or3guns Will do that! Good luck with your testing!
@thedarkwolfsif17504 жыл бұрын
When you state “colored iodine” is there a very specific color I should look for? I have the amber shellec ready to go, just need to try and get some iodine. Thanks in advance!
@ThatNikeKixKid4 жыл бұрын
I believe it’s ether clear or colored. if it’s brown then that’s the one you want. There isn’t any different shades, just the one brown color
@Or3guns6 ай бұрын
@@CSZerinoHow do you get the hologram effect like the Russian's???
@bulldaggerwatkins19013 күн бұрын
Povidone iodine is available on Amazon for cheap.
@-Gunnarsson-2 жыл бұрын
I never manage to get the finish I want. always getting strokes or runs.
@carloss.1869 Жыл бұрын
So what are the steps for the polyurethane finish?
@stevesneed564 жыл бұрын
Iodine works great ! Also if you want that translation look buff the pieces after sanding! Tung oil also can be used as it is very durable! Nice job !!
@Or3guns7 ай бұрын
If I use straight iodine will it turn out orange or is it kinda brown too?
@oscardelta12576 жыл бұрын
I think shellac is fine for the stock but I have seen the shellac on the front hand guards literally melt and turn into a gooey mess when the barrel got hot enough on a friends AK. I used tongue oil on my front guards.
@StraitClownin9095 жыл бұрын
What kind of shellac did he use?
@keepitthoro67682 жыл бұрын
Show us not tell us
@jordangolmohamedi16062 жыл бұрын
Has anyone been able to get this to work? I’m using a really light Birch and the same iodine and amber shellac method and mine is a bright orange. Ive also tried Sedona Red and amber shellac but to no avail.
@rockyanish67952 жыл бұрын
I do not believe they use birch on russians just yugos. Minwax gunstock oil stain gets it close with a gloss poly top coat. Iodine it first.
@Or3guns7 ай бұрын
So you used iodine first then minwax gunstock? What color did it end up with?
@bobevens76375 жыл бұрын
You can get colored iodine at most farm and ranch stores. It will be in the horse medical supply section
@porchjoe2 жыл бұрын
What color stain is this?
@RV-ds5uf5 жыл бұрын
So you put polyurethane over the shellac finish?
@ThatNikeKixKid5 жыл бұрын
Roy Villanueva yes I did I only used the shellac for the color
@TheseRightHereBitch3 жыл бұрын
@@ThatNikeKixKid You applied one coat of Poly after the shellac dried up?
@dougshelton697 ай бұрын
I used powder dye dark walnut and deluded it to make 3 shades and lots of sanding..finished with linseed oil ..then clear coated...
@Or3guns6 ай бұрын
What color did it end up? Did you get the hologram izzy finish???
@dougshelton696 ай бұрын
@@Or3guns it turned nice dark with 3 color shade of wood showing...but I did another just yesterday with red iodine on laminated handgaurd...kept applying till it got dark as it would go..light buff with 00 wool and true oiled it with 7 coats...thats the closest I've got to real Russian look..it shows yellow orange and dark red..i will definitely use the iodine on a butt stock...theres nothing on KZfaq about iodine..but it works well...
@Or3guns6 ай бұрын
@@dougshelton69 Dam I wish I could see it. How did you apply the iodine exactly? Did you soak it or did you thin it? Did you have any problems with the iodine guming up? Or did you apply it like wood stain and leave it on for a while and then wipe it off? When I tried applying straight iodine it kept gelling up on the stock and I could only get so much on it and so dark. You're right there's basically nothing about iodine on KZfaq unfortunately
@dougshelton696 ай бұрын
@@Or3guns I used Iodine tincture ups 100% (2% iodine) from Walgreens...i just applied with a cotton patch..it dried rather quickly and about 7 coats it was dark..let stand overnight..then finished it..what brand were you using? I ordered a unfinished stock from aoa to do next...
@Or3guns6 ай бұрын
@@dougshelton69 The brand I'm using is MedLine Ready Prep Povidone Iodine 10%. I got it from a hospital when I had surgery. But I have an unopened bottle of Walmart's Equate brand. It's Povidone Iodine 10% too. Whatever that means. Maybe I should try that kind and see if it's any different.
@muhittinbilen22232 жыл бұрын
hello master ak47 wood materials are made of what I would appreciate if you help me
@Cesko_Plny_Fialovejch_Zmrdu3 жыл бұрын
What hologram look? I havent seen Dart Vader poping out of that stock anywhere
@Or3guns6 ай бұрын
Look closer, he's there
@RickP10303 ай бұрын
Russia Did not use Shellac they used pine tar
@brandonmckittrick28225 жыл бұрын
Very nice but tung oil is better to use than shellac but that's just my opinion.
@ThatNikeKixKid5 жыл бұрын
Of course I agree as well but to keep things original
@sdranch28002 жыл бұрын
They don’t sell the iodine anymore over the shelf because of the meth cooks…
@leondel7480 Жыл бұрын
Me: excuse me do you guys have the iodine? Store employee: not today meth boi
@smlee73485 жыл бұрын
I'm rookie who's hooked to "russian red" and started project to change WASR-10 "blond" wood to "russian red" (blood red). I got it that iodine is your "red" stain and amber shellac is finish clear (?) coat But here's my question......the furniture color "I see" in your youtude video is NOT blood red, but looks like rich glossy dark brown.....do you agree ? Don't think it's my laptop cuz I see blood red color in this youtube link - kzfaq.info/get/bejne/epeBdsuKqKfOenk.html Please advise.....is your furniture blood red or rich glossy dark brown ?......thanks
@ThatNikeKixKid5 жыл бұрын
Umm you might be getting confused with colors.. this video is to achieve a original Russian factory color (Izzy finish) witch is a gold/iodine colored finish... not red nor brown, If your looking for a red color you could possibly find videos just like the one you tagged in your comment for directions. Russian red isn’t an original color but more of a custom color people do with a cool name.. but no my furniture is a replica of an original Russian color not brown or red.. hope I was able to help
@smlee73485 жыл бұрын
@@ThatNikeKixKid my bad....thanks
@hosaenhosaen81064 жыл бұрын
اخمس ابوشنداختين لش ماكو
@stoegerstewie8351 Жыл бұрын
اخمس غير مرغوب بامريكا .... متعب مع الرمي المتواصل. .
@Or3guns6 ай бұрын
@@stoegerstewie8351 What are you saying???
@stoegerstewie83516 ай бұрын
@@Or3guns he asked about under folder stocks, I replied it ain't really sought after in America, as in Africa and Middle East, about half of all AKs have under folder stocks.