I'm repotting my Mugo Pine (Pinus mugo) that I got last year from a club workshop. I discuss when to repot Mugo Pines and I will see if this tree survives bare rooting and some major root pruning. #TheBonsaiZone
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@Dylan-ok6ft3 ай бұрын
I’m looking forward to an update on this tree!
@harrisonstreib3 ай бұрын
Thanks for addressing the myths! They make it difficult when starting into bonsai
@dabblingwithbonsai3 ай бұрын
"These roots are worse than my hair" "umm.. Maybe knot" 😅 💚💚💚
@ricklandaubonsai55063 ай бұрын
I just recently transplanted a black pine and did some severe rootwork on it. When I got nervous about its survival I said "Nigel does this all the time though" Ha, You just gotta be careful I guess 🤣
@RachelDavis3 ай бұрын
I was thinking this same thing yesterday…
@jballenger92403 ай бұрын
Nigel seems to always make a positive comment about the benefit of the pruning and how he believes the tree will survive and thrive and benefit because of the pruning as well.I t’s like a blessing and words of confidence about the energy and vigor in the plant. Such a nice positive message and vibe. So Nigel 😊😊😊
@murray8213 ай бұрын
Haha, I killed a healthy pinus strobus with root pruning, it was the right time, the roots were a knotted mess, was from a nursery who only up potted it with the velt stuff still on. I got massive needle length reduction the following season. From 10 cm to 0,5 cm, and that didn’t provided much energy and it died this winter.
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@ScottMatthewsBonsai3 ай бұрын
Perfect timing of a video, once the weather lifts a little in the uk i shall repot my mugo...
@DavesBonsai3 ай бұрын
The King of Patience!!!! You amaze me every time my friend! Looking great. I hope you bust the myth.
@TalkingLoon3 ай бұрын
Hi Nigel, I have been watching your channel since I've been watching bonsai videos on youTube. You're one of my favorites by far, you being from Ontario (I'm in Manitoba) so some of the trees like your Thuja are also my best bonsai varieties. I admire your experience and your "clip n' grow" method that you adhere to without compromise, it's very inspiring. I will be absolutely amazed if this Mugo survives. They are truly fussy and--like most evergreens--are slow to respond with any indications of their immediate health. It could well be months before you know for certain. I don't even think it is the season that is the biggest "myth" here. Bare rooting any pine is risky. If learning by making mistakes (killing trees) is an effective way to learn this art then I have sure learned a lot on my own, but I'd rather learn from others by having them share their knowledge and for that I thank you, kudos to your bravery on this one!
@growclipbonsaiforseniors19513 ай бұрын
Fascinating information about the MP. I have confidence in the good doctor with his surgical skills on the roots. This tree is in good hands.
@TheBonsaiZone3 ай бұрын
I hope not the hands of death!!!
@TreeLife-98IT3 ай бұрын
I agree! I bare root my conifers/deciduous too since 5 years now and it always worked for me, but I never completely wash the root sistem to prevent all the micro fauna that's helpful for the plant. Thanks for sharing your experience and knowledge! Greetings from italy 🇮🇹
@GrowingBonsai3 ай бұрын
What I understand re. mugo repotting is that it works well in late summer because they are mountain trees. Spring comes late, and winter early. So a large part of root development is later in the year.
@sako53 ай бұрын
Relaxing. Please keep us updated on this tree
@trybonsai3 ай бұрын
This is a fabulous topic as these types of trees are my kryptonite, but more so does the myth really apply across the board. In my region I'd say it does and we ( I) was advised to be cautious when dealing with pines and junipers, however, your logic has a lot of merit and I'd apply it. Thank you Nigel 🎉🎉🎉
@Ukeitupmike3 ай бұрын
the issue is that a lot take too much roots away when repotting. Going back to 1/3 is too much for a Mugo. That‘s at least my experience.
@kevenrobinson65223 ай бұрын
Thanks Nigel. BTW planting in pond plant containers like the "Finofil" ones really good for material that likes more aeration and free drainage. Various sizes ie. 1ltr upwards.
@karenconquest3 ай бұрын
I repotted mine last fall when they said you should...it died. So much for that. LOL!!
@Yurup3 ай бұрын
Also this might have nothing to do with the time of repotting like Nigel said. Could have tons of other reasons.
@matshagstrom98393 ай бұрын
“There are many many factors that contribute” Truer words have never been spoken.
@snoekhoek2 ай бұрын
Hi Nigel Maybe you could do a video on how you handle the aftercare of these trees?
@michaelmott74023 ай бұрын
I hate to say it Nigel but I think this time you screwed the pooch with the root work. They are pretty picky this time of year speaking from experience two years ago I did mine in the end of this month March 😢. Both of them died and I was so peeved because I thought the same as you. Hopefully yours will survive because I don’t like to see trees die and I’ll pray for you and your moog 🙏🙏
@TheBonsaiZone3 ай бұрын
Yes, it is quite possible, if it dies, I'll try again later in the year!!
@Steves_Backyard_Bonsai3 ай бұрын
Looks amazing. I have had no luck with Mugos, but you’ve given me the courage to try again.
@matshagstrom98393 ай бұрын
Another point of brilliance is the concept of trees creating their own soil. I’m surprised I’ve never heard it said but it is definitely the case. Soil is decomposed living matter and trees produce dead tissue as it grows and thrives.
@NoDecaf73 ай бұрын
I never considered that a dark colored pot could harm the roots. Thank you for mentioning that experience! Always something new to learn from you 😊
@Tybold633 ай бұрын
Totally agree that many want to simplify tips and tricks without taking as many factors as possible into account. Think that goes for many things not just the Bonsai world. The tree looks good btw 😃
@YasuiBonsai3 ай бұрын
I agree with the myths. I think with how subjective this art can be it also has subjective opinions. We are always looking for reasons as to why something went wrong. In a way this is how we progress. But jumping to conclusions as you say can be an issue in its self. Great video as always Nigel
@TheBonsaiZone3 ай бұрын
Yes better to walk to a conclusion!!
@Santi-us9ec3 ай бұрын
Excelente trabajo. Gracias.
@philippecervantes92353 ай бұрын
Merci 🤩
@mentalistsa3 ай бұрын
Wow. Bold. I’m waiting until summer to repot mine. Just scared.
@TheBonsaiZone3 ай бұрын
Maybe a wise choice!!!
@nicholasguest67193 ай бұрын
can't believe how long your candles are in early March! Buds on all my pines in Italy still haven't popped at all. Or did I miss this was filmed last year or something...
@joegarland48853 ай бұрын
Hi Nigel I hope the tree will justify the work you have done, it does worry me seeing the amount of roots removed, it will need a lot of nurturing to keep it growing into a nice tree. The comment about losing a tree, I think some times you learn more from things going wrong than the successes. My Mugo pines will be left until Autumn.Thanks once again for your videos.
@Thimbrethil3 ай бұрын
I repoted Mugo pines any time of the year and all died XD Hope you will have better results :)
@FrostBiteBonsai3 ай бұрын
That is a cute little tree! I looked at those on sale in fall. I'm certain it will do just fine in your care!
@thelazybonsai3 ай бұрын
Mugo mugo mugo!!
@brucedeacon283 ай бұрын
👍👌👌
@KennetDeBondt3 ай бұрын
I had the same birdsnests on my new pines...not easy to sort out. Grts Kennet
@slamrock173 ай бұрын
I agree with Nigel about bonsai/gardening myths. I was told that paw paw trees must have shade to sprout from seed. Also that they require shade for the first couple years. False false. Most paw paws are started in greenhouses so they are not hardened off to full sun. If you sprout your own trees you will learn that full sun is fine from day 1. Just like any other tree shade grown leaves burn in the sun it's as simple as that.
@chrismarshall83213 ай бұрын
Another great video. Looks really good in that pot. I find mugo pine are the hardest to work with and style because of the amount of branches it sends out at same places but yours is looking 👌
@garybrown81433 ай бұрын
Gotta admit I’m sat there thinking Ohhhh no when the roots are coming off, but you have the greenhouse and humidity a good substrate it’s just gone in so fingers crossed for a myth buster 👍🏻
@almag67233 ай бұрын
You break the rules😅,for the best and succesfully.
@joshpatterson16413 ай бұрын
I've been watching a lot of your repotting videos. I would be super worried cutting off the obvious white new growth on the roots. cant wait to see how it turns out.
@TheBonsaiZone3 ай бұрын
A bit of an experiment in progress!!
@LetsDoBonsai3 ай бұрын
Thanks Nigel - be interting to see how the Mugo performs, im sure itll do well under your supervision, time will tell i suppose
@zimartiste13 ай бұрын
Can I call "S.A.V" : Save and rescue" in the french air force or i will trust in you work, lol...verry good job Nigel...difficult tree the Mugo Pin...
@growclipbonsaiforseniors19513 ай бұрын
Slow but sure on the light thinning of the branches. Nice choice of pot for the recovery of the tree. Tree looks good in the pot.
@TheBonsaiZone3 ай бұрын
Thanks Tom!!!👍
@phillipwaterman57213 ай бұрын
Irea pot all year round with no problem thanks Nigel
@Vanillaflavouredcheese3 ай бұрын
Hope I'm not late
@lukasmihara2 ай бұрын
Nice first repot. I hope it'll stay healthy and do well! I also wonder where all these myths come from... I'm sure some thing's also get lost in translation. Maybe there were people in Japan, observing the Japanese doing certain things and taking those methods as a universal fact. The problem is, the climate and weather isn't the same everywhere in the world. What works well in Japan, might not work so well in other countries. And I'd generally say Japan has great growing conditions for trees.
@TheBonsaiZone2 ай бұрын
I was just reading an old book on bonsai and it said to repot Mugo pines in March to April. Interesting!!
@airford13Ай бұрын
hows the tree doing these days? i jjust repotted my first mugo pine a week ago, and already have new growth.
@carlosponte99073 ай бұрын
Some practices are not necessarily "myths", there are horticultural reasons why you may do or not do certain practices. Not all repotting techniques are exactly the same for all species, the same reason why you don't prune all species of trees in parks, groves and urban environments the exact same way. Nature has immense resiliency built in though, so a tree is not going to automatically die if the recommended techniques are not followed to the T.
@timmorel793 ай бұрын
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@Darkfire13003 ай бұрын
My motto has been...."I've never met a mugo pine I couldn't kill" because until the one I've got now, I've not found that"zone" where they are happy with my treatment. And that has meant repotting at different times of the year. Fingers crossed for yours. The one I've got now has been languishing for 3 years. Not dead. Not vigorous.
@TheBonsaiZone3 ай бұрын
It will be interesting to see what happens to this tree, I hope it lives!!
@pennyduncan59803 ай бұрын
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@paulschaefer52413 ай бұрын
I think most of the pines you see where they don't bare root are on established trees. once the basic shape of a tree has been established, the pruning and training mehtods are different. I'm not sure many people nunderstand that. Bonsai is like just about everything else. there is a lot of misinformation out there.
@srh98933 ай бұрын
i had a mugo pine i was working on for 5 years, my wife dumped killed it, i guess she was pouring her unfinished left over coffee into that pot every day... :/ it is no more
@baldyeti3 ай бұрын
Kind comment
@yung_bonsai7 күн бұрын
Nigel, I've noticed while using Safe-T-Zorb, thaat it breaks down into a mush in about 2 years, and creates issues with drainage. have you dealt with this also?
@TheBonsaiZone6 күн бұрын
The kind sold here doesn't break down even after many, many years. It may be a different product or from a different source? My bag states that it is a good soil additive, I wonder if it's different in Canada?
@shuancook90053 ай бұрын
How do You rate perlite and coco coir 🌱🤙
@jballenger92403 ай бұрын
Could you comment more about root “subdivisions” and what they tell you and how they influence your pruning decisions? PS: What about sealing the cuts you made on the branches? Would that help it not “bleed out”?
@TheBonsaiZone3 ай бұрын
I find sealing the cuts doesn't work well on pines, they seem to push out sap, even if they are sealed!! I find if a root has subdivisions, you can prune back to the sub divisions with less risk to losing the root. Pruning a long root back to a stump is riskier, some times it works, other times the root dies off.
@karenconquest3 ай бұрын
Nigel, a question I forgot to ask...is it ok to prune off a couple of surface roots on a tree that you can see are growing in a wonky direction even if you don't repot the tree. I repotted it last year and don't plan on repotting it again until next year.
@TheBonsaiZone3 ай бұрын
Yes, unless they are important roots that are keeping the whole tree alive. If you have lots then they can be pruned away!
@aris_balcony3 ай бұрын
I did bareroot a mugo pine last year mid or late august. It survived. This year I barerooted a tiny pinus mugo with bad roots. It's still alive it seems (soft needles and bendable branches), but I will know in a few weeks. I have another one with a very ugly trunk (grafted and an inverse-taper-ball right under its branches) and I consider trying to airlayer it. Does this work with mugo pine?
@TalkingLoon3 ай бұрын
From personal experience YES it is possible. Cut deep into the bark (because otherwise it will just heal over), use a strong dose root hormone, and then probably wait an entire year. I've done five Mugo pine air layerings so far, only the smallest/shortest one is still alive (so... not really worth it). There was another bigger layer that had let out roots and seemed like it was successful but I was impatient and separated the layer probably too soon, so let those roots really grow out into the moss ball. All my Mugo air layers were done on a really branchy old parent plant and I was going to prune all of those branches off anyway. I'd never attempt to air layer any pine branches I really wanted to keep alive. Very low success rate and if it does work it just takes way too much time.
@aris_balcony3 ай бұрын
@@TalkingLoonThank you! I will try that for practice next year when my kraken-on-a-stick-pine regained a lot more vigor. Last year i pruned it hard (it was a green blob) and stopped working on it after I saw its inverse taper on the whorl where most branches grew out.
@t3dwards133 ай бұрын
Is feeding upon oneself considered cannibalism? Lol
@uhaneokalanijames80293 ай бұрын
it seems they are picky no matter what and when, maybe its not the root pruning, maybe its to much water after wards during the recovery period and they get rot and fungal or bacterial infections easily. but it sounds as though mugo pines have not survived during root pruning and repotting no matter what season it is???
@TheBonsaiZone3 ай бұрын
They must be very fussy after root work!!
@bonsaitis5663 ай бұрын
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@bonsaikastur3 ай бұрын
Lots of myths in bonsai world
@murray8213 ай бұрын
People say you can’t grow mugo cuttings, but I got a mugo cutting growing well!
@user-sf8fv1iv9e2 ай бұрын
The tree is 90% dead. The timing is wrong! Having cut off the roots, the crown of pine trees does not need to be trimmed
@TheBonsaiZone2 ай бұрын
The tree is doing fine!
@user-sf8fv1iv9e2 ай бұрын
@@TheBonsaiZone We can talk about this at least in three months or in the fall