It's like science or something.

When I decided to admit when I’m wrong when arguing with people instead of just digging in my life got roughly 100% better.

It always was.

Not only ok but encouraged, we should all be striving for that in all areas of life

Well said Cody Bailey

Plus, of course, the vast majority will offer the STLs pre-supported, which takes one of the biggest arseaches of the out of the equation.

Definitely this

I'm looking to start painting with my kids but don't necessarily want to spoil official minis. Want to buy something less expensive and maybe different model types.

And being a direct part of that community with the creators directly involved is fantastic. I love hearing about what's inspiring them to put out different sculpts.

Couldn't agree more. I got the Elegoo Mars 2 and I've been able to print some amazing stuff

Besides dealing with fumes and handling the resin, I’ve found it WAY easier using the resin printer vs. the FDM style printers. Haven’t had a failed print yet after a month. It just works! And the detail!

Even at full price, that Mono 4K is the same price as the new Horus Heresy box. And I've already seen free lookalikes for everything in that box.

How are the prices comparing. Im thinking about getting a printer, mainly for terrain at first though. But Im not sure how much cheaper it really gets, does anyone have experience ?

@@rostigerrolf4490 Ignoring the price of the printer, the consumables and files are pennies on the dollar compared to GW boxes. Gamza has a load of videos of price comparisons if you're interested. As far as terrain, printing is cheaper than buying, but crafting is cheaper still (and often free).

Would running the hose through an open window work as well? Not trying to drill through my house and seeing what other options I have haha

@@TheFYI1 I rent so yeah I have a plank that fits in the window that I installed the system for venting the fumes. Just be sure to minimise the ability for fumes to come back in.

what software are you using for design? i'm ready to take the leap

pretty sure I've heard that carbon filters only work on the odor but do nothing for the fumes. at least I think thats what elegoo says about their filters.

This

I love 3D printing but you are absolutely correct. If you are (understandably) not interested in investing the time in another hobby then find a buddy with a printer.

Yeah. I regret buying one during lockdown. I bought one to print minis for gloomhaven. I must have spent hundreds of hours just supporting the minis and teaching myself digital sculpting to 'fix' the stls so that they wouldnt immediately crumble. So glad there are official minis coming out.

Yep, you are not wrong. I have FDM and resin printers and spend a lot more of my hobby time on the computer making my own stl’s and just investing time in the printer tweaking, upgrades and workflow. It’s a good thing I enjoy that because my hobby painting and playing dropped off considerably. This was fine in the pandemic as the 3d printing largely replaced my gaming time, but now they are gathering dust as gaming is starting to pick up. Only so much hobby time to go around.

sure, but in that case building the plastic models before you paint them is 'a whole nother hobby' because I can say it takes me less time to print something than it does to build it out of plastic bits. but maybe thats just me.

3D printing is pretty fantastic for wargaming on a budget, so long as you're alright with not being able to play at GW tournaments as they enforce the use of plastic kits in those to some degree.

@@Dethraivn666 I'm fine with not playing at Gw, my friend wanted someone to play necromunda with and he gave me the crowdar gang. I found out I really like painting minis playing is a bonus for me and for my friend, just want to find a good cheap way of painting good minis. Live in a small town and traveling is hard at the moment only have one shop that does minis and most if it's Gw stuff. I know I can get stuff online it's just finding the right minis for me.

@@macroberts2009 For sure. There's a /huge/ array of STLs available and you can easily print most minis for under $0.50 USD each, it's a way better deal than you'll get out of almost any plastic kit. And for a game like Necromunda it's just absolutely perfect for all the wild and characterful, unique stuff that is out there. I've been pretty extensively using Cyberforge and Unit 9 stuff for my own Necromunda gaming. Both characters and scatter terrain bits.

I wish that room had a window, that’d be ideal. Thanks for watching!

@@tabletopminions Look forward to seeing what you create with this new tool.

I'd love to see that as well. It's something I haven't really bothered with in my 3D printing, but honestly probably should.

Just change your Ender into Prusa.

I’ve had multiple FDM printers over the years. Just got a resin printer a few weeks ago. If you want to print minis at all, Do yourself a favor. Get a Resin printer! It’s SO much easier than fdm and the quality is amazing. (You do need a way to deal with the fumes and handling the resin is a pain, but well worth it IMO)

@@wovenskin the whole after process is what turns me off. I want one but I don't want to buy a cura/washing machine to get the best quality prints. And Resin itself is not very cheap in my country.

@@Mockthenerd Resin is definitely more expensive than filament. But actually the wash and cure part of the process is the easiest part of the process and takes about 10 minutes. Well, minus removing supports. Ok, handling the parts with the gloves and trying to keep resin off yourself is a bit of a pain. But to me it's no big deal. (bought the anycubic wash and cure machine for about $120)

That's awesome, any favorite STL makers? I really like what red makers put out for the different regiments

@@brianp6859 Station Forge (Krieg), Anvil Digital (all of them), Ghamak (Firstborn), Titan Forge (Squats, Halo etc.), Suttungr Miniatures (Mordian), Print Minis (Cadia), Gamza (Warhawks), Battle Yak (Chem Dogs), Treadhead Rad (Raygun Raptors) All on MMF - Take your pick :)

@@brianp6859 And Kyoushuneko has been making WW2 Dieselpunk armies - Americans, French and Russians are planned in the next 6 months

Disclaimer , I have only ordered elegoos saturn 2 , however ive been joining about 6 different discord servers and read about a dozen forums and then looked on youtube starting 2 years before Atom did his "5" years video on it , so this is my understanding so far : 1. Yes , however some machines have restricted "build" programs (those that you put your actuall STL file into called Slicers , so the printer knows what to print & where you add support if there is none). 2. Yes , comparing to the most expensive companies you can make it far less expensive , the cheaper ones you still make some savings , so its up to you how much that will be. 3. Best would be dedicated space , temperature does affect the build and might cause a failure depending on your settings , that said. You could find out what settings would be needed to setup in the garden and make it work , but that would require some work and not plug and play out of the box. Different places need different settings which all can be fine tuned. (setup time is not an issue if you count settings as a different issue). 4. Depends , free STLs no problem throwing them around , if you buy for personal use only(cheapest) - its no longer legal to even give the STLs to someone to print it for you , I recently found out , so thats why I need to buy me a printer (jumped on about 12 different kickstarters and went with the dirt cheap option not reading the details first). Buying stuff from 3Dprinter websites they usually allow it , again this depends on the maker of the model majority allow you to do it. 5. At 4k its good , at 6k almost top quality and at 8k you need a camera to see them (roughly & with right settings) However , this if for LCD printers , so if your not in a hurry DLP printers are coming down in price I recomend waiting a few more years to see who comes out on top. Hope my findings was of some use , greetings from Sweden

@@matso3856 Thank you for your experience it’ll be the dedicated space that will be the killer for me.

You use water washable resin? What are you doing with the water?

@@pinguinposted990 Chugging it. I'm a Rebel! Whoooooo!!! *drops to floor*

@@pinguinposted990 hopefully setting it out in the sun before disposal. I use iso and I'm still on the first gallon even though I've printed probably 20+ L or resin. it goes a long way.

@@Born_Stellar A friend of mine bought a resin printer last year. He uses the elegoo water washable resin. He collected gallons of water. Without a lot of sun it won't evaporate - so he cooked it. Thanks. That was when I was out on planning to get me one too. Maybe he's doing it all wrong.

I prefer removing a few supports compared to the mold lines on plastic minis. used to spend hours removing them all.