Responding to DOPE SNOW Criticism

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Dope Snow is a ski clothing brand that has experienced a huge rise in popularity. For new skiers and snowboarders the, brand has created stylish, affordable and quality clothing to enjoy the snow. However some of the snow community have criticised Dope Snow for its products claiming they are cheap and poor quality. In todays Bramski video, I respond to the Dope Snow criticism. Do you agree with the negativity?
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00:00 Social Media Trend
00:46 Wearing Dope Snow
01:13 Full Disclosure
01:42 Dope Snow's Fans
02:16 Opposing Views
02:36 KZfaq comment section
03:18 Why is there hate for Dope Snow?
04:02 Product Quality
05:22 Product Price
05:51 Established Brands
06:22 Inclusivity in Skiing
06:51 Skiing's Image Problem
07:37 Brands supporting skiing
08:50 Dope Snow Community
09:10 Final Thoughts
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@davesloat9006 3 ай бұрын

I’ve been through Air Force survival training. I know quality gear and key features that you want. Dope and Montec produce better than average quality and great styling at the price point I want to pay. If I was planning an Antarctic camping expedition, I would probably go with a more expensive brand, but for a day at the resort, this checks all my boxes.

@BramskiVlogs 2 ай бұрын

100%

@untectings 5 ай бұрын

when I was much younger back in the 80'S it was no different it was about gear and clothing now days I don't care on the brands that everyone is wearing I'll get what works like mountain warehouse jackets they work really well and I don't need to worry about getting them dirty or maybe a tear the money I save can go towards buying lift tickets that are ridiculous here in north America

@BramskiVlogs 5 ай бұрын

love still seeing the 80's gear on the mountain, there's still some people in Revy that have the thin skis its great to see them still going at it!

@Simonjburgess 5 ай бұрын

Perfect response. You use it regularly and it’s lasted. End of argument. People need to realise it’s ok for them to wear whatever brands they want without being down on other people’s choices.

@BramskiVlogs 5 ай бұрын

Its lasted really well, the only degrading of materials I've experienced was with a montec jacket I bought 4 years ago, which after heavy use I got caught in a rainy day on the slopes and did not dry it properly - which was my fault. Glad I moved to Dope Snow though because I prefer the designs and range of movement with the gear.

@kilnerbrett 5 ай бұрын

Honestly, couldn't disagree more, my main reason and many others reason also is due to the fact the kind of tried to force themselves into the culture and identity of snow sports without putting in any work. Honestly idc what people wear, but like that's why I wont support the brand. I think a good example of this is Burton for example who host contest and gives out prize money to competitors, they have a history of snowboarders. You can't fake history and I think that's why they're a fine clothing/outerwear brand, but tend to rub people the wrong way who have been invested all these years. I do think the Dopesnow/Monetc hate train is a little out of control right now. Where its cooler to dislike it because its Dopesnow and not the reasons above.

@user-oq6vb1ux8t Ай бұрын

i think the hate comes from a corporate company getting into the snow industry and taking the $$$ out of the smaller companies that are actually focused on the progression of the sport and not trying to get clicks on Instagram. A good example is when Nike came into the skate shoe industry, a lot of skaters were against the corporate aspects, How many people watching this video have heard of the snowboard brand D.O.P.E, a small company based out of Whistler BC that is run and operated by snowboarders, that's the D.O.P.E y'all should support

@fetzel5055 5 ай бұрын

"If you wear Dope you dont know what youre doing" I just watched a steepsteep video that features a 15yo kid throwing a triple cork 1440, in a Dope Snow Hoodie. How many of the tiktok skiiers can do that I wonder, let alone at age 15.

@BramskiVlogs 5 ай бұрын

His video is great, I love his visit to the factory in Sweden NOT china! Good point no green screen needed when you're filming on actual snow

@simonpavek5551 5 ай бұрын

yea cuz hes sponsored, you wont find a good skier in their gear whos not sposored by them - or very rarely

@ormbaggen 5 ай бұрын

also jeszper tjäder. Ive also skiied for 15 years and have skiied some of the hardest slopes in sweden. I can go down any slope with ease and mostly do skiing as a fun getaway. I started using dope 4 years ago since they are from sweden and i wanted to support a local brand. Its the same as saying everyone in a everest jacket only skiis bigmountain, when its not true at all. All the shit people say about dope is false, ive had mostly dope stuff (except for gloves since hestra is just so good) and it has not failed me for 3 years.

@marcodebortoli 3 ай бұрын

@@BramskiVlogsexcept that in one of Lucas videos, although blurred, you can still read made in Cambodia 🤷

@BramskiVlogs 3 ай бұрын

@@marcodebortoli and Arc'Teryx jackets are made in Bangladesh what's your point?

@l34han 5 ай бұрын

I have a $100 dope snow hoodie and I like it. I also own two sets of Burton [ak] gore-Tex snow jackets and bibs, which cost more than $1000 per set if you don’t have any discount. I will say for most people who don’t ski backcountry or frequently experience damp and wet conditions (like in whistler). A dope hoodie is more than enough for snow sports, especially for those who have limited budget. Investing in a good pair of ski/snowboard boots is a better option. 😂

@BramskiVlogs 5 ай бұрын

100% Agree. Nothing against Burton or the higher marketed Brands but Dope Snow does the job just fine.

@StCreed 5 ай бұрын

I've skied for 15 years in a no brand skihose and skijacket for a total cost of less than 100 dollars. Mad Cow label :) I've never noticed any impact on my skiing, nor did I notice that after buying a new coat recently my skiing drastically improved. In other words, people focusing on what gear someone is wearing are full of shit. Just don't go skiing in jeans.

@BramskiVlogs 5 ай бұрын

Never in jeans, I did that once in the alps having had to stay up high in a resort one night with no ski clothing. Borrowed a bunch of gear to get back to my resort the next morning in a snow storm, it was horrendous. Never again

@2and20 5 ай бұрын

Snowboarding and skiing are filled with trust fund babies who use daddy's credit card to buy everything. The other day I ran into a guy at whistler who goes skiing once a year and has a $2k kit from Arcteryx...why?!?! As someone who rides in mostly burton gear, I will definitely be buying Montec or Dope next go around. The style and quality is unparalleled for the price!

@BramskiVlogs 5 ай бұрын

Different clothing for a different market I guess!

@rennick1ca 5 ай бұрын

I like to buy brick and mortar stores. Support your local community. Not another country. Im not loyal to a particular brand. Just certain features. As far as jerseys go. Wearing a hockey jersey is just Canadian. Not worried about opinions. The video iis just a sales pitch.

@BramskiVlogs 5 ай бұрын

I also am a big supporter of the local community, hence the cricket jersey ;) I have bought most ski gear locally with the exception of clothing because there is very little choice in the middle price band. Its usually either North Face or Arcteryx which is the highest quality, which I can understand given the terrain we have here. But its also the highest price, and for young adults who are trying to live in a ski town...if you can get a similar quality product for much less then its a sensible choice to make.

@CallMeAstro 5 ай бұрын

I really like dopes snow, firstly i'm still a teenager and growing, so a jacket would maybe only last a season. so 150 to 200 dollars makes more sense then spending 500 on a jacket i can wear for a season only. They are stylish, and im also swedish so i wanna support a swedish company.

@CallMeAstro 5 ай бұрын

Also, would the yeti jacket work in -20 celcius?

@BramskiVlogs 5 ай бұрын

Its a such a popular brand with the europeans and I can see why. Thanks for commenting. I have used my thicker jackets in -20 and its kept the upper body warm. The challenge I always face is fingers and toes, but I'm not likely to ski much in -20 to be honest.

@CallMeAstro 5 ай бұрын

@@BramskiVlogs ok thanks.

@instantjizz 5 ай бұрын

Lol i just bought a Dope snow jacket and pants for less than 360 buck it was cheap and feels nice 😂 i love it. This is like high-school shit all over again.

@BramskiVlogs 4 ай бұрын

Some of the negativity does seem childish right? Glad you like your jacket though, thats all that counts.

@marcodebortoli 3 ай бұрын

Met three people yesterday two teenagers wearing dope and a more mature experienced individual wearing Montec and here is what they had to say when I asked how are they, are they warm. Teen 1: not really, they are cold but I like the way they look. Teen 2: I don’t know I don’t ski that much they feel ok to me but when I fall a lot the trousers gets a bit wet Woman: they are ok but definitely not warm enough you need to layer properly. This was up at 2200m in the dolomites with 3 to 5 degrees Celsius temp. I just wanted to report some field feedback.

@BramskiVlogs 3 ай бұрын

Thanks for feeding back Marco, no doubt it has definitely captured a young audience in Europe. I have not used montec for a few years but there is of course similarities to Dope. I can only speak from my experience of skiing in backcountry/powder terrain with my gear and its been fine. I am quite warm blooded though and don't notice to cold unless it's like -15 or lower. That's where the dope snow knitted neck warmer comes in handy.

@marcodebortoli 3 ай бұрын

@@BramskiVlogs and understandably so, they are pretty fashionable compared to the competitors. I might try them myself, like you I don’t feel cold too much (I never had to wear a coat in English or Scottish weather for example) but it will have to wait for next year now.

@paulkysar6207 4 ай бұрын

The people that hate dope snow and any other brands that are newer are hard core fan boys. If you are in their club its supported by the fan boys, if not they get "angery" and trash what ever they dont like. What is forgotten is people buying dope snow buy lift tickets, season passes, snowboards and skis that keep the industry alive. We need everyone including the aholes.

@BramskiVlogs 3 ай бұрын

All skibums are welcome!

@kfitzp88 5 ай бұрын

As someone with an Arc’teryx outfit, I think people who spent a lot of money on their clothes get jealous that someone else may look cool (or cooler) than their expensive Arc’teryx or Burton goretex suit. I think dope snow is great! I want more people to get into the sport and im happy there is a brand that attracts new people to the sport!

@BramskiVlogs 5 ай бұрын

Good Insight! I hadn't thought about it that way. I wear a Arc’teryx softshell for work and can see why they are priced at the level they are at. But I am happy we have Brands like Dope Snow and Planks bringing people in to skiing, they are also very popular with seasonal workers.

@laowai2000 5 ай бұрын

You can certainly spend a crazy amount on gear. Resort I am at the moment is advertising Moncler Grenoble all over the mountain. Have a Grenoble jacket and afraid to wear it skiing as worried about durability after already putting small hole in sleeve.

@ormbaggen 5 ай бұрын

In my opinion after skiing with dope gear for 4 years (pants, jacket, goggles and helmet) is that i can say that people are hating because of how big theyve gotten in the short amount of time. It is affordable (roughlt 200-300$ for a jacket), it is durable (i do both amateur park and offpiste) and it is very comfortable. When i used Everest pants before they were way more constricting of the rip. I am in no way the best or worst skiier, ive been skiing for 15 years and i dont find any difficulty in 99% of the slopes. Dope hands down has the most fun/coolest gear (except maybe Burton or Harlaut). People be hating to be hating because they are big, just like other things that have gotten big in a short amount of time.

@BramskiVlogs 5 ай бұрын

Thanks for commenting, they have definitely grown fast in the last two years. They are hugely popular in Europe, but in North America this is where the divide seems to be. You either love them or hate em.

@ormbaggen 5 ай бұрын

@@BramskiVlogs yeah im from sweden where dope is also from, here on every mountain you see atleast 5-10 dope jackets and some of those people absolutely rip in the parks. Im also known as the "DJ" in my local park since i ride around with my dope gear and a speaker and showing good vibes.

@goodridevibes 5 ай бұрын

It’s funny to me how much people hate on this brand… they are very supportive of the KZfaq community

@BramskiVlogs 5 ай бұрын

Im not aware of many other brands that do it, I like how its almost grassroots as your going direct to the casual skiers.

@MikeListon-tk8ir 5 ай бұрын

I generally write off anyone who judges people based off their fashion or gear choice. So yeah, I write off that guy. It's a tough world when it comes down to the trite, unoriginal too-cool-for-school rant in his video.

@BramskiVlogs 5 ай бұрын

It was a very too cool for school video wasn't it? But he's entitled to his opinion.

@MikeListon-tk8ir 5 ай бұрын

@@BramskiVlogs He's absolutely entitled to his opinion, but he also stated it all as fact "anyone who wears X is Y". He's a moron.

@tommasosoave 5 ай бұрын

aaaand this video only proves the point further

@BramskiVlogs 5 ай бұрын

How does it?

@Decimo1123 5 ай бұрын

Elaborate please

@ivankong1065 5 ай бұрын

A lot of people somehow don't realize that all brands out there are cash grabs. They all have bosses and shareholders to answer for. All the so-called "giving back to the sport" is basically a part of the marketing funding that goes into the sponsorship campaigns or the competition campaigns. At the end of the day, they are not charities and they are all in it for the money. We need to stop over-glorifying leading brands as in they are doing us a service and not running a business. I have been in the sport for 15 years now and I am still wearing a jacket from the mountain warehouse, because I cannot justify paying a premium price tag for jackets like the Burton AK. Are they in better quality, sure, but like most amateurs out there, I just don't need to pay 500 bucks for a jacket. I would rather use that money for a season pass.

@BramskiVlogs 5 ай бұрын

It's a business like all of them. However from my experience, Dope Snow are a brand that are accessible to their customers. Knowing some of the staff personally, I can also say that they are incredibly passionate about the sport. I would highly recommend watching Steep Steeps video where he visits their HQ in Sweden.

@Snouut 5 ай бұрын

Fantastic video as always Matt! Keep it up! Hope you're all well at Revelstoke! Big White is getting a dumping at the moment, hope the same is for you too!

@BramskiVlogs 5 ай бұрын

Thanks for the support! We've had some good consistent snow here too this week. I'm looking forward to getting up there and filming tomorrow.

@TheRealUnconnected 5 ай бұрын

The core of the problem is the incredible deterioration of trust that people have in influencers now. People have wised up to the fact that most influences will hock any crap so long as they get their cut. It's almost impossible to find an unbiased professional review of dope / montec gear, because its DTC only and the only content creators who have the gear are the ones getting paid. People are pretty over the whole drop shipped china product pushed out by content creators thing, most people deep in the sport avoid that kind of gear out of principle. This is what leads to dope being for bad riders, as newbies don't know any better. This is the first video of yours i have ever seen, and you seem like a good dude, but just a point, honesty is the core issue with the creator space and when creators (yourself included) say stuff like "i don't get paid by dope snow i just get all this free gear every year" its not exactly honest. You are being paid, you are paid in gear. Maybe they fly you out to head office once a year for a nice junket to check out the new seasons gear, wined and dined and staying in the Alps. All that sort of stuff is payment. All that sort of stuff for a channel with 2,000 subs. Would you really turn that down if the gear was bad? I rock the same burton jacket i bought in 2009, its still good. Will dope hold up that long? Nobody knows, but i bet most of their creators would tell me it would if it got them a new jacket next season.

@BramskiVlogs 5 ай бұрын

So none of your ski clothing or ski/board gear is made in China or Eastern Europe? Respectfully, I disagree that its dishonest; in every product video I make sure to disclose exactly the transaction I have with the brand. Sending a care package or vouchers is not the same as a 'paid video'. I've never had the fortune of being paid for a video yet but I imagine it would come with some directions from a brand on what they want to see in a video. Whereas with the current partnerships, I feel I can be as honest as I want in the reviews. I am under no obligation to post multiple long form content about Dope Snow, this might be the first one this winter but it was my choice. I knew about Dope/Montec before I ever began reviewing their gear. I bought a Montec jacket years ago but thats how I discovered the brand that I liked. The collaborations came afterwards. I have turned down other clothing brands and ski products yes. I'm not going to tell you that their gear will last x amount of time, but I will tell you in the 3 winters I have been in Revelstoke the gear has dealt with the harsh conditions really well. But thats just my opinion based on my experience.

@TheRealUnconnected 5 ай бұрын

@@BramskiVlogs so you can say it’s not the same as payment but literally every ad standards board in the developed world, the FTC, the UKs CMA, the EUs CEC, the Australian ACCC, literally everyone says influencers receiving gifts counts as payment. And yet we still have influencers standing up, claiming it’s an unpaid unbiased opinion and then wondering why people don’t trust them. I dunno bro. Wonder why.

@Tirppa 5 ай бұрын

This a lot. Being semisponsored and then giving an "honest review" has zero credibility. I've heard both sides from genuine users. Others have had their gear last 3 seasons fine now. Other have had rips in seams and zippers on the first season. But just looking at the site and prices. It's common sense that you can't have 87 different style and color combos in high quality for the price. People can wear what they want but getting super defensive about it when given valid critique is just cringe. Also getting hung up on the "you don't know what you're doing" and then going "look at the kid doin 1440 wearing dope". Yeah.. the kid who gets new gear from Dope every season. He doesn't have to think about how long it lasts. Also it's lazy. You can get high quality gear at the same price at the end of the season or between seasons sale. People can wear what they want and hopefully just enjoy skiing. But calling Dope high quality skiing gear while getting gear for free or vouchers to buy them is just blowing smoke..

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@RichL123 5 ай бұрын

Great video that frames the silliness of brand elitism that is not warranted here. When people form opinions on something by echoing the opinion of someone else who doesn’t even have legitimate experience with a brand…. It’s wild. We see it every day in every hobby but it still blows my mind.

@BramskiVlogs 5 ай бұрын

If someone doesn't like a brand and chooses not to buy it then its fine, good for them. But I don't really know what it achieves when choosing to hate those who do buy that particular brand. I love how there are so many different options in the ski industry.

@lisaarthurton 5 ай бұрын

What i find so interesting is that people think its ok to put down individuals based on their choice of ski wear. Skiing is expensive to begin with. Many people want to experience skiing once in a lifetime or maybe every year, but either way they do it for the shear enjoyment of it, not for the fashion. Yes, we want good quality, but its a personal choice. If it serves your purpose, wear it. Clothes in no way define a persons ability. So thank you Matt for your input and honest opinion on a brand that is negatively reported on by some others. X

@BramskiVlogs 5 ай бұрын

Its a bit like marmite! Thanks for commenting lisa, I think the affordability in skiing is a big topic of discussion. For clothing, I think Dope provides are really good option for those starting out.

@alfiek8092 4 ай бұрын

Love my dope snow trousers and jacket

@BramskiVlogs 4 ай бұрын

💯 which ones have you got ?

@alfiek8092 4 ай бұрын

@@BramskiVlogs got the black Iconic trousers and purple camo Annok. Got them back in 2019 and still going strong

@zerozentao 5 ай бұрын

It's rare to find vibrant colors with the usual companies unless you dig. Like for instance the entire volcom snowpant line doesn't have a neon green or a neon pink. More power to Dope!

@BramskiVlogs 5 ай бұрын

They offer a good mix of designs don't they, if you like simple then you can choose the plain pastel colours. Or if you want something jazzy then you have the camo options.

@johnklaus9111 5 ай бұрын

I feel like local ski town psuedo team names are allowed as that's technically ironic. Gen fall (z), your take?

@johnklaus9111 5 ай бұрын

Commenting on the Revelstoke cricket club "jersey" which I think is actually hilarious and awesome! 😊

@BramskiVlogs 5 ай бұрын

Possibly, there is definitely some tribalism with some brands. My observation is that a lot of this criticism tends to come from America.

@BramskiVlogs 5 ай бұрын

We're getting a pitch built in the summer so will be able to host games at home!

@johnklaus9111 5 ай бұрын

@@BramskiVlogs Wow wow wow wow, wow! So cool! Gotta get some video of that!

@BramskiVlogs 5 ай бұрын

@@johnklaus9111 you can. I've got a second channel called Alpine Cricketer with match footage of the games.

@willfredtk 5 ай бұрын

I like my dope snow gear it looks good and has worked good for me this season and it didnt cost me 1000 dollars

@BramskiVlogs 5 ай бұрын

They're great for skiing in when doing a season.

@loucontois 4 ай бұрын

This pad is the highschool brat that never grew up, always looking for a reason to look down on others.Also, his kind are probably wearing much more expensive gear, so they're probably rattled not to be the "cool one" anymore as Dope gets popular

@loucontois 4 ай бұрын

Lad*

@BramskiVlogs 4 ай бұрын

It definitely seemed like a deliberately troll video the more I think about it

@blblameier7845 5 ай бұрын

if you wear dope your either a pro or a beginner nothing in between

@BramskiVlogs 5 ай бұрын

Is this just Dope Snow or every other ski clothing brand out there?

@harrisonschock4570 5 ай бұрын

The glazing is crazy

@BramskiVlogs 5 ай бұрын

How so?

@jayysmotoworld 5 ай бұрын

They say people who wear dope don’t know what they’re doing yet we also see people who wear Burton or other established brands on the slope who also don’t know what they’re doing lmfaooo!!! 😂

@BramskiVlogs 5 ай бұрын

And Salomon, North Face, Arryyy terrryyyyx (tongue twister), Planks, Decathlon and so on and so on

@simonpavek5551 5 ай бұрын

I dislike dope just due to personal preference. I've seen the dope designs on the mountain and I've come to dislike them. Yes there are pros who wear dope. Yes there are people who don't know what their doing who wear dope. I mostly see people who have no idea what they're doing. I have not tested their products and I care not to, they seem too cheap for what theyre offering. Brands who have simmilar gear just cost more and thats probably one of the reasons why people who don't know what they're doing wear dope - they're new and its cheap (relatively cheap).

@RichL123 5 ай бұрын

Oh look an opinion formed with zero experience or data. Maybe this is what the video was about…. Hm

@BramskiVlogs 5 ай бұрын

Thanks for commenting, could you elaborate on how wearing Dope Snow proves they don't know what they are doing? and doing what 'skiing' ? I'm curious also where you see people like this, is it at a particular resort or place on the mountain? Appreciate your thoughts.

@BramskiVlogs 5 ай бұрын

also a $250cad jacket is not cheap

@BramskiVlogs 5 ай бұрын

I'd like to understand where the preference comes from though, a $250cad jacket is not cheap.

@simonpavek5551 5 ай бұрын

@@BramskiVlogs european ski areas, mostly park, (trois vallees, flachau)