Thanks for all of the support on this video! To everyone suggesting to "Simply buy new lights," these are around $750 PER SIDE bit.ly/30I5wwg I'll stick to the $20 polish for now! ;) To those suggesting to replace the lenses, unfortunately these are not designed to be taken apart (shame on BMW). Because of that, it would be a tremendous amount of work to disassemble them, and there are no official OEM or Genuine replacement lenses. For $20 and about an hour of my time, I'm satisfied with the results I got, even If I have to redo them in a year.
@keny464 жыл бұрын
I've done several people's cars headlights including my own and a few things I've learned are that they turn out way better if they're already bad aka the original coating on the lenses is worn off if it's not and the lights are only bad at the top its a pain in the ass to make them look like new. As long as you reapply the coating that protects the lenses you shouldn't have to worry about resanding them, just don't forget.
@JasonHoningford4 жыл бұрын
Look for just the lenses, I think I paid $80 for each lens and they lasted about 4 years until I sold the car and got top dollar for the trade. bmw 3
@danusmc34 жыл бұрын
how long did it take per light????
@CajunTaco4 жыл бұрын
Lucky you. Mine are 900 for my mazda.
@adamcichon69574 жыл бұрын
Also you could do it permanent, not only for a year... kzfaq.info/get/bejne/i6t6la59v522nYE.html
@edgy1rocks4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for staying true to the older platforms. Anybody can buy a new car. It takes a pro to keep an old one looking new!
@justinbuice4 жыл бұрын
Very true! I can't afford a new car, so I might as well take care of what I have :)
@edgy1rocks4 жыл бұрын
Even if you could afford a new car, the depreciation of the vehicle once you drive it off the dealer's lot would make that a poor decision. I didn't have a garage when I bought my first BMW - (a 1982 320i, purchased new) and now, nearly 30 years later, I prefer letting someone else take the first big hit of depreciation. Properly serviced and cared for, these are very desirable rides! It really helps to have a garage though! Nice progress on yours! I'm still thinking about the kerosene heater...
@Thedeshawn4 жыл бұрын
Justin Buice same here I love my bmw and I put a screen in mine it’s huge
@NeKoShinn6664 жыл бұрын
funny you say that because a TRUE older platform would come with glass lens. Newer cars have plastic lens that yellow in a few years. all 3 of my cars have glass headlight lens, never need to worry. 1996,85,85
@TheHeretic4354 жыл бұрын
Older platform lol. I drive an E39
@NathansBMWWorkshop4 жыл бұрын
That is by far the Best kit you can get , I did 10 cars out of my 1 kit
@N54-4 жыл бұрын
Stonks 📈
@NathansBMWWorkshop4 жыл бұрын
Na Vi you can get a year or 2 out of them depending on how much you park it in the sun
@nokstabln4 жыл бұрын
@@navi6341 if you put transparent film after they are done it can last 2-3 years at least if you daily park outside. I do not know why he did not put foil on them, they will fade in a couple of months in the sun as the protective uv lacquer is gone...a colleague had them done for about 45usd with film (25usd without) for the pair and they look new after 4 years.
@justinbuice4 жыл бұрын
@@navi6341 In my case, the headlight assemblies for my car are $1,400 brand new for a pair. For that price I'd much rather polish them once or twice a year.
@JonOlaivar4 жыл бұрын
Hey look, my two favorite BMW content creators in one place!
@timreichmann87994 жыл бұрын
ASMR Headlights. I think we found something that never has been on KZfaq
@justinbuice4 жыл бұрын
😅
@thakoharris4 жыл бұрын
Was thinking the same! Love it! It’s all about the headlights.
@bartsabitch66354 жыл бұрын
Asmr is for perverted weirdos.
@DeuceDevious4 жыл бұрын
entirely untrue. there are a great deal of ASMR detailing videos with this kind of stuff...
@jankindl9154 жыл бұрын
sorry, but youtube is full of videos like this....
@bovianna4 жыл бұрын
The whole process was absolutely beautiful, from start to finish! Motivates me to do mine when the weather gets better (I don’t have a garage)
@owenlee45854 жыл бұрын
the production quality of this video is amazing. Shots are in focus, audio levels and quality are spot-on, explanation and video length was great as well. Subscribed, keep it up :)
@justinbuice4 жыл бұрын
I appreciate that! I put a lot of effort into production. Im glad to see that it doesn’t go unnoticed.
@TheJared14454 жыл бұрын
As a detailer on certain cars where the hood comes up next to the headlights, I’ll just pop the hood and completely remove sanding it from the equation.
@prasna8374 жыл бұрын
Not a good idea as the polish can splatter all over the engine bay. The hood is the easiest to tape off anyway.
@karolisrum65734 жыл бұрын
@@prasna837 I also open the hood, but put a cover on the engine bay
@terminusbeatzframptonhood4 жыл бұрын
Bro when I had my e90 I learnt a lot from your videos. I have an 330e f30 now and I still watch your videos. Keep up the good work B👊🏽👊🏽👊🏽
@DesertWolfFIN4 жыл бұрын
i did the sanding and clear coat only as well on my e46. The finish is pretty decent, still better than nothing. Might redo the restoration with proper products soon, as well as the trunk lights
@SKOMPAS4 жыл бұрын
Using clear coat on lights is sketchy, really affects the quatily of your light beam
@SnowGolem1TheL33t4 жыл бұрын
Not if applied correctly, key words but. Hardly anyone except tradesmen automotive painters or headlight mod/resto businesses do it right.
@andrewjames65164 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video! After I watched I ordered a kit myself. Just did them last night and it was just as easy as your tutorial. Perfect foolproof explanation so no one should worry about ruining their headlights. Meguiars should pay you for this advertising lol
@knatt994 жыл бұрын
It helps a lot! I do this for friends all the time. But i do have a lot of equipment so i just use regular coarse polish and finish with a fine polish. And coat it with a ceramic Coating.
@JonOlaivar4 жыл бұрын
Holy shit. I was convinced there was no hope for my e90 330s headlight lenses but this video proved otherwise. Thanks my man, keep up the good content.
@frandanco62894 жыл бұрын
I have restored hundreds of headlights as a Detailer and all of them have come out beautifully.. It is always worth the work if you really want to do it..
@jonyrock4 жыл бұрын
I made a video that offers a more permanent solution with 2k clearcoat if you want to see. I've tried waxing tons of times and have tried some of these kits over the years, in 3-6 months you'll be sanding and waxing them again (Florida sun is rough). My process ran me about $30.
@SWAYLAB4 жыл бұрын
This kit is awesome. Used it on a car we sold last year. Literally like new. Thanks for documenting!
@golfmother31414 жыл бұрын
Great clip and no SHOUTING , you are a good presenter well done . Used the mid range product on my 2002 Audi TT and it worked a charm , be prepared to take your time , the result will be good , i ceramic coated when finished CMX and they still look great after 8 months .
@temio.4634 жыл бұрын
I just did this on my e90 with my buddy, my headlights are crystal clear! I plan on applying a 3M film to them, similar to the way described in Milan Mastracci’s video.
@justinbuice4 жыл бұрын
Nice!
@frenchmontana4233 жыл бұрын
did you use the coating after too? or just sand and seal?
@_ZAYA4 жыл бұрын
His voice is so calm and soothing I could watch him for hours
@hv93564 жыл бұрын
I learned: When the lens's are really glazed you have to sand the hell out of them.!! Don't be shy. They will always buff right up but the more you sand the cleaner they'll look.
@finz13744 жыл бұрын
thx, mine are so bad looking, I'll try how it goes
@jonyrock4 жыл бұрын
@@finz1374I made a video that offers a more permanent solution if you want to see. I've tried waxing tons of times and have tried some of these kits over the years, in 3-6 months you'll be sanding and waxing them again (Florida sun is rough). My process ran me about $30.
@hellinusholy4 жыл бұрын
I've actually used this product before. Works very well. I've only had to do it one more time after, and I just went and got sand paper using the same method and what I had left over from the box.
@hellinusholy4 жыл бұрын
Also, my lights when I bought my car was like 4 times worse. Like thick yellow.
@sorcat4 жыл бұрын
Man, don't stop making E90 videos. I love them and the way you make them.
@TitanFlare3 жыл бұрын
Nice video man, just bought the kit from your link. I can't stand when people make these videos for the sole purpose of "selling" their method of affiliation, it just makes them look greedy and untrustworthy. Your honesty and straightforwardness is rare in KZfaq today. Thanks again
@efthimios4 жыл бұрын
hey justin! nice video, my 2011 335 has 55K miles and almost paid off, your vids and love for your car inspires me to keep my car after its paid for and maintaining it for hopefully another 3-5 years for no car payment.
@jake_spence4 жыл бұрын
Awesome! I did a video on the same topic and it blew up. Hoping yours does the same, I think you've outdone me in cinematics 😅
@justinbuice4 жыл бұрын
Nice! As I'm reading your comment, I see your video in the suggested videos lol. I think your thumbnail is better than mine! How did the finish hold up?
@jake_spence4 жыл бұрын
I actually like your thumbnail better, but the before/after seems to get people. It's been about 9 months and mine are still as clear as the day I restored them. I didn't even use a lens protectant or UV clear at the end. But I think everyone's results/longevity differs.
@justinbuice4 жыл бұрын
@@jake_spence I think a lot of it has to do with the climate and whether or not you keep it in the garage when it's not being driven
@VehicleVirals4 жыл бұрын
@@jake_spence I agree, before and after does get clicks. That said, Justin's thumbnail pic looks CLEAN!
@jake_spence4 жыл бұрын
@@justinbuice 6 days and 100k view later... it blew up!
@semajdouglas3231 Жыл бұрын
I always come here you are the one that makes me get a bmw E90
@listenlearn54454 жыл бұрын
Affirmative, it does work. Outlined to follow directions, and you will get the results you are seeing. Mine were pretty bad, worse than the Beamer lamps, but end product looked just as good, but the reminders are extremely important.... keep wet, horizontally and vertically gently sand , but thoroughly and evenly... you can do this.... Presentation was really well done.....
@davidkolman12886 ай бұрын
Thanks for the great video! Used on my 03 MDX. Lasted about 5 months. Gonna use it on my 08 e92 next
@melchesgarage32834 жыл бұрын
Most underrated headlights out there. I love mine way more than the newer ones.
@alfredocarpaneto59764 жыл бұрын
Not trying to throw shade but I just bought a Rustoleum $8.99 restore kit and used it on some WORKED 2001 OEM Audi headlights and it worked awesome, they give you a little sanding block and a single final finish wipe. Took about 20 minutes for both lights and they were BAD tons of build up and completely dull. It was easy and all I used was some elbow grease.
@ethanblake64394 жыл бұрын
Please keep on doing the bmw videos! I’m so close to buying mine and i love watching what you do with yours and learning!
@94muddertrucker4 жыл бұрын
Extra tip/trick, put a few drops of dawn soap in water bottle. Helps lube a little more and helps keeps sand paper cleaner, plus allows easy cleaning of headlight between stages.
@BulliKid4 жыл бұрын
I have done a few headlight restorations. The best is sand 600 and then 2k clear coat. And then You can 1k sand and buff depending on how smooth the 2k clear layer down. If you use a good gun you won’t need to cut and buff. Will be doing videos come summer time on my channel. Cheers. Happy new year.
@justinbuice4 жыл бұрын
Im going to try that method on my other car
@makosasimakis1184 жыл бұрын
One year ago , I gave my 2004 e46 coupe to BMW dealership to restore my headlights . Pretty good job 👍🏼
@pm78054 жыл бұрын
The car is a beauty. They are making junk these days. Keep this longer and shiny for years to come. :)
@privomck4614 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of a 318i m3
@walterspaceman559211 ай бұрын
Excellent presentation. Your calm voice and vernacular, and poised demeanor are exemplary. Comforting, encouraging. The work that went into music and production values were especially great. Best wishes. Hang in, but if it ever becomes less than a labor of love , say adios. As to critics do not even read dribble from disturbed people, it just clinically proves there was cromagnon dating. You can't help them, as their not breaking out the party hats when these guys show. Best wishes. But you have demonstrated talent here, pursue it, and incorporate other high subscriber blog site ideas if comfortable, it is not theft, it is a compliment to them and an industry given. Good luck.
@KiesMotorsports4 жыл бұрын
Looks brand new!
@drumskas4 жыл бұрын
Great job my man, easy to follow directions with your video. I like how you stopped to explain before or after each step. Keep it up.
@rogerpritchard3 жыл бұрын
Very helpful and easy to follow instructions, pleasure to watch,. Thanking you from Thailand 👍👍👍🙏
@rookietoprobuildz4 жыл бұрын
I got to do this for my Accord ! Seems better than the RainX version I used before.
@Petee4 жыл бұрын
the satisfaction of crispy headlights
@bajaadventurerider4 жыл бұрын
Great video, the only tip I would ad is to rinse the milky water ASAP so it doesn't dry om the paint.
@frandanco62894 жыл бұрын
Yes, just run the hose very slowly holding it with your other hand over the work as you sand, and it will really make this faster.. The disks will last longer, and the results will be really even all the way across..
@Realpreshaanb4 жыл бұрын
Nothing more satisfying than near perfect headlights 😁 great work bro🙏🏼
@justinbuice4 жыл бұрын
Probably the best $20 I spent on this car lol. Thanks!
@n3rdyg1rl114 жыл бұрын
this is why i miss the days of actual glass headlights. never have to do this.
@frandanco62894 жыл бұрын
Yeah, but with glass headlights, the lighting technology was so bad, it was really good, they were not plastic back then.. You get way better technology lighting today than anything on stock vehicles back then.. Yes, there were off road racing driving lights back then with glass lenses, but they could not be used on the street legally..
@Gwiedert4 жыл бұрын
It really depends on the type of plastic used. My 16 year old cars headlights still look brand new. I guess it also depends on how much they are exposed to sunlight though.
@karollepeto89244 жыл бұрын
Not really. Glass headlights can breake if you catch a flying stone from the road. Polycarbonate headligth cover can withstand such impact without damage.
@karollepeto89244 жыл бұрын
@@mahkuntizitchy2083 It happened to me once. a rock chipped a hole in my headlight. I had to repair it with transparent silicone because i didnt want to spend extra € on a new headlight. My previous car Nissan Almera 2001
@spicysnowman88862 жыл бұрын
@@Gwiedert it's all about the exposure to sunlight and the elements, not so much to do with age.
@dix4fingers3014 жыл бұрын
why not put the hood up instead of taping off?
@izmailovdavid4 жыл бұрын
Dix 4 Fingers so all that splatter doesn't end up in hard to reach spaces under the hood
@BedazzledChanclas4 жыл бұрын
diztrin you sir, are a man with common sense 😌
@Alectrizo4 жыл бұрын
@@izmailovdavid Or you could wash your engine bay?
@frandanco62894 жыл бұрын
@@izmailovdavid It just washes out with the same water.. I use a hose dripping really slowly , with my other hand to clean the work while I'm doing it and this speeds it up, keeps the sanding disk clean the whole time, and I get better results.. I would always raise the hood, so there is no chance to accidently hurt the paintwork.. And I always tape the rest farther past the lens so I don't accidently hit something close to it..
@daevid214 жыл бұрын
Fran Danco maybe for a couple hours but if you forget about it dried compound or polish splatter is near impossible to get off
@stevensims3342 Жыл бұрын
For anyone wondering, the reason the car has angel eyes on pre-LCI E90 lamps is because they are the Hella xenon, adaptive assemblies.
@fasst274 жыл бұрын
Nice! I'd probably put two layers of tape, juuust to make sure... 🤷🏼♂️
@bigDmtb6224 жыл бұрын
i love the music you use in the video, Where do I find it?
@chrisbroomell42484 жыл бұрын
I was just talking about doing this to the BMW (my first ever) that I bought 3 days ago. Thanks, can't wait to try the product you used and see how my headlights turn out. Your videos are great!
@Icesouldy3 жыл бұрын
Nice video. I find that the coating isn’t the easiest to work with. Apply too much, you may get streaks after it dries... I learned it the hard way. You almost have to get it right the first time. Try to touch up? streak again.
@BC-ev4hl4 жыл бұрын
Makes me want to go buy a car just so I can do this. And listen to him again. He's like the Bob Ross of headlight polishing
@justinbuice4 жыл бұрын
😂 thank you!
@belowaverageluke13694 жыл бұрын
I'd like to see this process done with a neglected older vehicle
@belowaverageluke13694 жыл бұрын
@Dacia Sandero guys Ahaaa....
@sweetvuvuzela46343 жыл бұрын
It works well just more sanding
@james107394 жыл бұрын
Pretty much i have not tried any of the after coating but if they are any good you need to or you will be doing them like once a year depending on where you park I use the plastx and it works well with a cheap drill attachment i bought online and i use a set of sandpaper that had 1000,1500,2000,2500 and just work thru them with the paper wrapped around a spoung
@jonyrock4 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of my old e90. Bought it with a broken camshaft, replaced it and put 15k miles on it before selling it. I sanded and reclearcoated the headlights, made the car look great
@MB7_74 жыл бұрын
You've convinced me to get this kit for my 2002 TL, I used another kit but it was all by hand and as you said it seems that the drill makes the difference. Thanks for making such a good vid, cheers!
@dr.katanga32014 жыл бұрын
Impressive. So gentle and Effective. I got similar results!! Thank you so much.
@BlehBleh04 жыл бұрын
First thing on my list for 2020 is to restore the headlights on my 335i E93. This video couldn't have appeared at a better time. Cheers to 2020!
@justinbuice4 жыл бұрын
Best of luck! It really make an older car look brand new.
@Adam1llion4 жыл бұрын
Your videos are amazing! I love watching the b roll on them.
@justinbuice4 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@lonespanker2823 Жыл бұрын
Just did this on my 06 e60 m5. Looks great and it costed almost nothing when compared to replacements of $1700 each headlight.
@toddsmash3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Justin! My E90 320d is just starting to show this issue with the headlights and I'd been considering getting this product! Great content mate.
@oncsaba4 жыл бұрын
The production quality of the video is really nice, I loved the close ups comparisons, I'll definitely check out your other videos!
@oncsaba4 жыл бұрын
Just finished the video, I see you got a whole bunch of new goodies, that explains why the video looks so great!
@justinbuice4 жыл бұрын
Thank you I appreciate that! 📸
@BrandonBicasso4 жыл бұрын
I had said this 5 times watching this.. "He did that, Wow". This turned out fantastic!!
@JimmyJiveJones4 жыл бұрын
Nice video but heres a suggestion. When sanding instead of sanding it horizontal and then vertical vice versa, try sanding it in mini circles to mimic a Dual Action Sander. Itll make for a finer smoother finish and your headlights will stay clear alot longer.
@beansie54934 жыл бұрын
Great video.....no nonsense. Most of us are non professional so this is great and easy
@Pika_Gabe Жыл бұрын
Thinking about doing it to my mk6. But they are already pretty clear. I really just want a mirror finish on them.
@frenchmontana4233 жыл бұрын
does this work with a 2011 e90 too? like the lci e90? is is the same headlight material? someone help thanks
@justinyeoh27103 жыл бұрын
Hey Justin. Justin here too =))) Dont let those keyboard warriors bring you down.. i enjoy watching your videos even it is 2021 now.. Keep it up!
@hreddick60014 жыл бұрын
You seem like a real likeable dude. Man I think having a beer with you would be so much fun! Btw, I own a 2011 BMW 328xi Sedan.
@Cheeseypoofs854 жыл бұрын
arent you supposed to go perpendicular to the previous strokes when you switch grits for best results? pretty sure the kits tell you to
@bbcake0014 жыл бұрын
PLS. update this review and tell us how its holding up!
@JonSantiagoRAW4 жыл бұрын
Im convinced 👌🏾👌🏾. Can’t wait to see what new content will be released this year!
@CorbinWilliams3 жыл бұрын
Wow great job on this one Justin!
@atapaz89214 жыл бұрын
Really like this video. Helpful and down to earth advice! I also am about keeping my car clean and sharp rather than spending big $$$$. I've been watching your channel for while and hoping to snag a BMW with the good tips you share.
@CP-qn1mn4 жыл бұрын
I just used some rubbing compound and a rag and it worked just fine.
@TGLOK_official Жыл бұрын
they look really good bro doing this on my e90
@angelgomez48484 жыл бұрын
it’s beautiful 🤩
@justinbuice4 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@allanmaureenmacintyre44744 жыл бұрын
Great Vid man. No bull, super clear instructions - You have talent.
@kevomorider62544 жыл бұрын
wow! the before and after shots look so satisfying!
@justinbuice4 жыл бұрын
I was impressed!
@ivanjerez24174 жыл бұрын
Thanks dude!!! Very well explained!! and worked just great for me. Thanks!
@justinbuice4 жыл бұрын
Awesome!
@cpt.ahab_it70444 жыл бұрын
I used a little rubbing compound from the same company and a rag, worked fast, and great!
@jeremyryan40224 жыл бұрын
Dude turned out amazing bro
@joaorocha22424 жыл бұрын
Your videos are always useful and well done. I will try it on my BMW e60. You’re awesome don’t stop making videos about the e90 you inspire me in a lot of mods I did on my car, someday I share it with you.
@PENETRATEONTIME3 жыл бұрын
The ASMR part killed it 🤟 great job man. Greetings from Germany
@baaelectronics4 жыл бұрын
Cool video! Now I’ve got to do this for my 2006 325i headlights! I’ve used the Plastx before with just a foam pad and it works temporarily for mild cases but I might just have to try out the more detailed method soon to get them looking brand new.
@Nnexxxx3 жыл бұрын
Alright so I just did this and a heads up: * I spent about an hour or so on each headlight, by the end of the first headlight, the provided sandpaper was worn out and I couldn't get all of the fog out of the second headlight. * I recommend you buy an additional 1k and 3k sand paper so you can actually get it 100%. * For the frog tape, green doesn't have as much adhesive but doesn't leave any residue. Blue leaves the most. I recommend yellow frogtape if you can get it. * I had to buy an additional spray bottle, glass cleaner, microfibre towel, and a water jug. That was an additional $30 so the total was ~$55.
@frandanco62894 жыл бұрын
Thanks for making this video ! Great job ! I'm not sure you got all the discoloration of that light where it was the worst... Also, you will always be faster and more efficient wet sanding anything, if you will get the hose and tape the metal end of it, so it does not scratch anything, and set it to drip a little water from the top of the lens the whole time you are sanding it. It will go way faster, and the results will be better.. I always use the highest grit wet or dry paper to finish the lens, like up to 4000 or higher grit and the lens is way easier to compound out what little sanding defects are still there..
@TigBitties244 жыл бұрын
sweet vid man! keep the Bimmer content comin!!!
@George-dh6zz4 жыл бұрын
You make videos that are easy to follow. Thanks!
@joethomas6795 Жыл бұрын
I'd kill for my '11 X3's headlights to look as good as the BEFORE photos here
@jeffreyheister38033 жыл бұрын
Wow , that looks so nice !
@GeorgeEI7KO4 жыл бұрын
Nice job JB! Tip.... Put some dish soap in the trigger bottle the next time. It lubricates the paper and makes the crap come out of the paper a lot easier. Happy new year man!
@TengoChorr04 жыл бұрын
I used that same kit on two cars and got great results. It's been about a year now and it's almost time to do it again.
@brandonniebur68844 жыл бұрын
This kit is exactly what I need! Thanks for the video.
@loganclaproth4 жыл бұрын
this is a better how to video than most detailers
@merlinszinhaz Жыл бұрын
Very nice job - looks like new! Thank you for this!
@yvanromero66784 жыл бұрын
I tried that on my 2001 pathfinder but i used Rainex and the result was amazing, in your case the headlights look really good. 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
@mcyeti864 жыл бұрын
The 3M kits are purely drill based and work well. All the ones I've found last anywhere from 8-16 months before getting cloudy again - Next time I'll probably get a clear film to go over my lights and see how that lasts.
@frandanco62894 жыл бұрын
I have had clear film for going on 11 years on my car lenses and the film has not even started to fade, yellow, or anything..
@paulespinosa68324 жыл бұрын
You can use chrome polish buff it in and buff it off works jst as well
@JohnBlakeJr4 жыл бұрын
Enjoyed the camera work! Good tutorial too. Thank you.
@mr.boostang20643 жыл бұрын
Awesome video, going to try this soon on my 2016 Corolla since the OEM headlights are faded and cost $450 new, the aftermarket ones are $180 for a pair but I'm not sure they'll last as long as oem.
@ecocav02222 жыл бұрын
Very nicely done
@raksh94 жыл бұрын
You seem like a really chill and nice guy, not to mention the cool car DIY videos. Subbed.
@FSSNZ2 жыл бұрын
Brilliant video I think you've motivated me to try this too!