Rethink your Short Backswing with Moe Norman's Single Plane Genius

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4 жыл бұрын

When you rethink your short backswing you will understand the Single Plane Genius of Moe Norman.
"I can make a straight lines out of a crooked game" - Moe Norman
This is the part 4 of a five-part series where I review my book "The Single Plane Golf Swing, Play Better Golf the Moe Norman Way". in this series I use common sense to uncover specific details of natural body movements of Moe Norman's swing to help you rethink your golf swing and, in the process, discover the easiest way to play golf.
In this video I revisit the importance of the address position as it relates to the backswing to help you understand that a shorter backswing can produce more speed because a short backswing isn't really short. I also explore lag, leverage and Moe's "vertical drop". I also help you discover how Moe, using his lower body, made straight lines out of a crooked game.
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@jimmalcolm2958 Жыл бұрын

Best description of a transition and velocity anywhere. For a high handicap golfer this the best video on KZfaq.

@waderay1394 3 жыл бұрын

I'm learning i always with a driver fall back or stand up and every so often a fairly straight shot but thats only after basically a few rounds as I basically just started, awesome teaching

@markpoppe8681 4 жыл бұрын

I keep going back to this video as I work to get the transition nailed down. I missed my tee time today, so I spent two hours at the range working on my single plane swing. It's starting to "click" more consistently resulting in great impact on my clubs. I would love to attend one of your schools when the Canada-US border opens up.

@MrWastingmytime59 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for taking the time to produce these videos. They really help bring the book to life, and make developing the swing a realistic possibility.

@haidernajjar1051 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you Todd.. very well explained.

@navystan Жыл бұрын

I'm an single plan academy member and have seen many of your videos, but don't recall seeing this one. Love the additional detail and the importance of the body positions and how restrictions result in correct impact.

@Moswing 2 жыл бұрын

Excellent, trop bien, je comprends. Merci beaucoup Todd

@micahong1486 4 жыл бұрын

I loved the disconnect of the lower body and the upper body in the back swing to transition, and as Moe Norman said "I go down as I'm going back" which drops the club on the inside. Game changer for me in that crucial sequencing moment. I feel like there is hardly any manipulation and more centrifugal force activating the swing plane. Cheers Todd, best video yet!!

@ToddGravesGolf 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks.

@brianwynne9536 4 жыл бұрын

A lot of very good and useful information. Practicing the drills helps a lot. Thanks for sharing.

@ToddGravesGolf 4 жыл бұрын

You're very welcome!

@richfromboston 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks again Todd, old habits keep messing me up. This video will help a lot

@darrius1pinkney 2 жыл бұрын

Let me give you your flowers now, you rep Norman well.I’ve been back and forth in between Traditional to plane swing ….got more out of the plan swing . Thanks …. The best golf ⛳️Mr TG

@sunnytran8114 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you Todd. I'm from Vietnam where all coaches are conventional. Many years playing with not much consistency until I found your channel. I bought your book as well and now never want to go back to conventional swing. Genius system, great coach!

@ToddGravesGolf 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Sunny.

@johnathanwetherill456 4 жыл бұрын

Pure Gold video again Todd !

@ToddGravesGolf 4 жыл бұрын

Wow, thanks! Please "like" the videos so others will find out about them. Thank you.

@rickygilbert4054 4 жыл бұрын

Fantastic backswing and transition summary. Anyone seeing this: you can get a LOT more from Graves Golf Academy by becoming a member. I joined as a Silver then Gold member. The expert coaching I get regularly is changing my entire golfing experience to a much more fun game. Become a member and you too will see the huge benefits. I am almost 70 years old and shot a 79 today. For the first time ever, I think I can have a new goal to shoot my age. All thanks to Graves Golf Academy coaching and training.

@ToddGravesGolf 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the comments. Great score too! Can't wait until you shoot your age!

@gregurban4111 9 ай бұрын

Simple science. 🙏👍🙏 thanks for the explanation.

@georgelee2178 4 жыл бұрын

Great explanation breaking part by part, thanks. Do you have video showing on trackman trajectory / club head and ball speed etc with single plain ?

@sdavidjohnson44 4 жыл бұрын

Great video Todd thanks for posting it. Any thoughts on the swing of the late Doug Sanders. Wide stance short backswing and very straight hitter. There were times he would go 72 holes without missing a fairway. I have been around long enough to have watched him play in the late sixties or very early seventies in Hartford (Wethersfield Country Club) and Pleasant Valley in Sutton Mass. Should be in the hall of fame with 20 wins on the PGA tour.

@findmelightsdotcom9280 3 жыл бұрын

One of your best videos for sure Todd! Although everyone of them is awesome and you've literally covered everything Moe done and explained it so the average player or even beginner can follow these steps to become a more consistent and injuriy free golfer. I have another question if you dont mind answering. I am in two minds on the part after impact, do I :- continue with force with the arms until my torso is facing the target, or do I :- stop the force and torso at impact, and let the club drag my arms and torso through to the forward facing position? I first see Moe doing force all the way through but when I look at the overhead video, it definitely looks like hes just trying to hold on to the club like you said with the tug of war.

@VaderG75 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you Todd. SPS changed my game. Bought the book. Thank you, Thank you, Thank you

@ToddGravesGolf 3 жыл бұрын

Very welcome

@michaelsparks8632 4 жыл бұрын

Interesting stuff Todd! Liked and Subscribed, more please!

@ToddGravesGolf 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks, will do!

@robertbowen4019 4 жыл бұрын

Great great stuff. Please - more of the overhead/over the shoulder shots. I really pick up a ton from seeing it from what you are seeing. Also, someday/someway cover the movement of the shoulders in the back swing. I was moving my shoulders in a straight back and forth motion on the back swing and could never get perfectly on plane until I joined the Gold program and had a coach (I'm looking at you Clay F) point out to me that I was NOT moving my lead shoulder in a slightly downward motion at the beginning of the back swing and that this was goofing up my ability to get on plane. This advise has made a TON of difference! Anyway, please fellow SP golfers - pay attention to this. Your videos are pure gold. Thanks.

@ToddGravesGolf 4 жыл бұрын

Love the overhead too.

@richardmartin4227 4 жыл бұрын

great stuff.

@jimmalcolm2958 Жыл бұрын

Todd mo had tremendous lag as he transitioned. I couldn’t understand this until I watched your video. Great detail.

@markdiskin4861 3 жыл бұрын

Genius Stuff! Thanks!

@doug2993 4 жыл бұрын

Brilliant!

@DavidGrieshaber 4 жыл бұрын

Love it T odd, keep em coming. I'm in month 8 of my golf swing change to be more like Moes. The last bit has been the "drop", now understand how it happens naturally.

@ToddGravesGolf 4 жыл бұрын

Great. Glad to see you have given yourself some time to get it right.

@jamesgander7337 2 жыл бұрын

Trail foot is the key to transition and to the finish. Thanks Todd.

@ToddGravesGolf 2 жыл бұрын

Sure.

@fengcc222 4 жыл бұрын

so good.

@peterlarkin4955 4 жыл бұрын

Hey Todd great video. Just came back from your 3 day school and these videos make so much sense now .

@armandosuarez5863 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you great information thanks great information thank you

@ToddGravesGolf 3 жыл бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

@ocat1979 4 жыл бұрын

Another great video Todd. My biggest hurdle at the moment is keeping the trail foot down, no matter how hard I try it comes up almost as soon as I start down. Other than that I’m hitting it super solid 👍

@ToddGravesGolf 4 жыл бұрын

You can do it! Keep Trying.

@teddythodo3302 4 жыл бұрын

Feet together drill. 10 swings moderately paced. Then do 1 foot flamingo swings primarily with your trail foot so it stays down. Go back to feet together and swing - now separate them by 1 ball length and swing. Separate by 1 more ball length and swing again until you are not lifting that trail foot. Also flaring them out is important

@atxbowlingcoach 4 жыл бұрын

Great video. Thank you

@ToddGravesGolf 4 жыл бұрын

You are welcome!

@mikefenton5213 4 жыл бұрын

It is so awesome that you Share this stuff free Todd graves .

@ToddGravesGolf 4 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoy it! If you feel so inclined to help the cause, please donate to the Moe Norman Documentary Production at www.thefeelingofgreatness.com/donate. All donations received go to the completion of the film

@toddwmac 4 жыл бұрын

Great stuff as always Todd. Bad for us, but great for you that your book is sold out. Well deserved

@ToddGravesGolf 4 жыл бұрын

Amazon is restocking. Thanks!

@dtgps 3 жыл бұрын

The kinematic sequence tells us that distal accelerates when proximal decelerates. Arms deceleration causes acceleration of the golf club. At bottom of Moe's Vertical Drop(gravity), the arms decelerate (kinematic sequence) and club accelerates.

@maxxsee 4 жыл бұрын

that extra torso rotation explanation was so sick

@joetroupe893 2 жыл бұрын

Todd, I understand more fully what you meant by keeping your right foot down until after the follow through.

@jamesconnell5876 3 жыл бұрын

Brilliant!!

@ToddGravesGolf 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks.

@Sw-bk3fj 2 жыл бұрын

bought your wonderful illustrated book as well

@ToddGravesGolf 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you.

@teddythodo3302 4 жыл бұрын

Pretty good stuff Todd

@ToddGravesGolf 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks.

@NealBuer 4 жыл бұрын

Bought the Kindle book on Amazon.

@moonlightbay5620 4 жыл бұрын

"My swing balances me"...quote Moe and that's the technical explanation to the rope being pulled.

@ToddGravesGolf 4 жыл бұрын

Nice

@ronbo4756 4 жыл бұрын

I believe if you want to learn the SPGS and not ask so many questions about what the hands, arms and feet are doing is get the training aids Coach Todd recomends as they have helped me practice perfect positions that is no guessing. I have the ABT and single plane trainer and do the drills daily again to speed up or shortcut my learning. I have been using them for about 3 months now and looking forward to getting back on the course after the lock down.

@ToddGravesGolf 4 жыл бұрын

You are going at it correctly! Let me know how it is going.

@richfromboston 4 жыл бұрын

I think you are right

@ElGolfeux 2 жыл бұрын

so, been back to the course? How is it going?

@thegiant573 2 жыл бұрын

Yep that's my problem. Over rotation on backswing. I am all John Daily 150% rotation

@georgiabankruptcy 4 жыл бұрын

I am all in. Just ordered the Book. So far I'm somehow creating two distinct errors (randomly): Hitting it thin and blocking the ball right. And man is it a challenge to keep that trail foot down!!

@ToddGravesGolf 4 жыл бұрын

You got this!

@user-tw4ds9oe3q 3 ай бұрын

Followed 1-4 with great interest, but in the last couple of minutes you adopted a more conventional finish, whereas Moe said never let the right hand go above the left! Also is there a part 5 please? Thanks for this.

@aubreytemara3884 4 жыл бұрын

Awesome. Seems so uncomplicated. At 72 I am striking ball cleaner and driving much higher and longer than I have ever done.

@nicklashansen3537 Жыл бұрын

Oh my god i tried the single plane swing and focused on the lead side connection and for the first time ever i was consistent

@richardjamieson9103 4 жыл бұрын

What a well done articulation and demonstration. I too am a wandering, frustrated (over 50) golfer, stuck in the mid/upper 80's for 25 yrs. Took a look at the Mike Austin stuff last year and felt some progress with letting the right leg extend for easing the hip rotation, and this year I'm finding the one-plane stuff. Your technical explanation has convinced me to give this a try. However, it's interesting to me, that I have to admit to myself that this looks so funky that there a certain psychological unwillingness to change, especially to not let that trail foot come up and around in the "picture perfect" follow through. LOL.

@wodenoftheangles3339 4 жыл бұрын

Do you have any swing vids?

@quentinray8673 3 жыл бұрын

Have you any updates on your swing. I find my mindset similar to yours but am going to give it a try.

@sfuller94 2 жыл бұрын

I’ve learned more about the conventional golf swing by learning the single plane swing, than I EVER have watching other videos.

@ToddGravesGolf 2 жыл бұрын

Intersting.

@sfuller94 2 жыл бұрын

Seriously Todd. I’m 55. Have been taking lessons for years and no instructor or video ever explained how the conventional swing works like you have and exactly why I couldn’t do it consistently. It was truly an ‘aha’ moment. I’m a single plane fan and have zero plans of going back. Plus, my lower back no longer is sore.

@Sw-bk3fj 2 жыл бұрын

well explained mechanics

@ToddGravesGolf 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you.

@josephphelps5046 3 жыл бұрын

Hi Todd. I'm really struggling with the backswing. I can get the address positions down pretty well. Which muscles should be initiating the backswing? I can't get comfortable and this results in a lot of shoulder tension and weight distribution problems at address. Thanks for the great videos!

@josephphelps5046 3 жыл бұрын

Nevermind, I watched the Build a 365 Day Moe Norman Single Plane Swing series and the Backswing video really helped with the spatial relationship and pivot point explanation. Now I can get to positions 1 and 2 and the backswing is smoother. Thanks!

@willismksr66 6 ай бұрын

Hi Todd, How can I go about ordering the Single Plane Trainer device? Thanks!

@Puttj 4 жыл бұрын

THE most important concept in the swing. Rotational release.

@ToddGravesGolf 4 жыл бұрын

Nice.

@markshaughnessy5665 4 жыл бұрын

@@ToddGravesGolf Good stuff. Can you talk About wrist hinge and unhindge as that appears to be critical to increasing swing speed since the body does not finish high like most modern swings. Also, include where i can get the Bookl ppl, either bookstores, amazon or download. I am sure your videos are complete but someone can add it to the screen, or reply to this email.

@ToddGravesGolf 4 жыл бұрын

@@markshaughnessy5665 Will do. Also, here is a link to the book at amazon. www.amazon.com/Single-Plane-Golf-Swing-Better/dp/1612541925/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=the+single+plane+golf+swing&qid=1595197766&sr=8-1

@kenpietrzak671 4 жыл бұрын

Todd, great video. The physics behind what you are saying makes a lot of sense to me. However when I take this to the driving range, I'm constantly hooking the ball to the left. Obviously I'm doing something wrong. Any suggestions?

@ToddGravesGolf 4 жыл бұрын

Your lead hand grip is not correct. You must fully rotate the back of the lead hand to match the club face.

@aa33366 2 жыл бұрын

Any drills for transition?

@cyrillam2854 4 жыл бұрын

How to minimise back injuries by holding side bend at setup through release?

@ToddGravesGolf 4 жыл бұрын

Lead knee flexed, and just turn. No compression or shear.

@kevinbohunsky8637 4 жыл бұрын

Todd, yes...those struggles are real. (Pointing the finger at me) Bad Habits are real. (Me) Do you have to focus on the bend in your right (trail) arm in the swing? I’m assuming as I was taught both elbows point down (not forwards or backwards) towards ground at Address and Impact? But I’m getting my right elbow pointing somewhere behind me. (At address and impact) Do I need to consciously be aware of my trail arm being bent at impact or does that happen naturally to a slight degree? I commend your work and Thank You again for all you do!

@ToddGravesGolf 4 жыл бұрын

I fold the trial arm but keep the lead arm "wide". It sounds like you have a right shoulder issue and not an elbow issue. I see this often where you think your elbow is going to far when it is actually your shoulder.

@kevinbohunsky8637 4 жыл бұрын

Todd Graves Todd Graves no shoulder issue...I think I’m overthinking the role of the right arm getting in the way of the lead arm and club and face being square at impact. Since the right (trail) arm forms a shorter lever then the left (lead) arm, I’m guessing it would just naturally be bent slightly at impact? Thank You for your time and concern for comment! I will continue to read your book and practice the positions.

@teddythodo3302 4 жыл бұрын

Kevin Bohunsky unless you’re actively trying to kill the ball with your right arm, it should be naturally bent to a certain degree. It also matters on your posture as well. If you’re more upright in your swing you’re going to have less right arm bend. Where as someone who’s really bent over and maintained that throughout the swing, generally they’re going to see more right arm bend.

@kevinbohunsky8637 4 жыл бұрын

teddy thodo that makes sense...I’m just trying to swing straight through the ball with my left arm to impact and trying to keep the right arm out of the way until after impact...but I’m forcing the right arm to be bent more at address so there is a greater angle (bend) below the elbow and above the elbow...so I’m guessing this is wrong cause at address both arms should extend straight away from the body, whereas my left arm is straight and my right arm is angled purposely somewhat which causes the elbow to point behind me instead of straight down to the ground. Thank You for the comments.

@royconnoy2047 4 жыл бұрын

Are you going to offer to Gold members signed copy's from you and all the staff , that would be awesome especially for those who have attended the schools and have the experience of meeting ya'll !

@ToddGravesGolf 4 жыл бұрын

Signed copies of?

@stevepartain864 Жыл бұрын

How do I buy this book? Please let me know, do you take visa. Thanks

@marioperreault 15 күн бұрын

Todd, does it mean 75 degrees in the back swing instead 90?

@rushfanjames2112 2 жыл бұрын

I do believe a shorter backswing can generate just as much speed n power as a longer backswing. A longer backswing might cause you to get off balance.

@ianchantrey8868 4 жыл бұрын

Could you tell me if Moe used range golf balls or “normal” golf balls to practice with, and was Moe left handed but his swing was right handed. Thank you for your reply

@ToddGravesGolf 4 жыл бұрын

Moe would request "decent" golf balls when performing clinics however, he it ranges balls when decent balls weren't available. Yes, Moe was left handed.

@Counselor1031 3 жыл бұрын

Do the hips turn on an angle going back- does the left or front hip go down and trail hip go up, or do they turn level?

@ToddGravesGolf 3 жыл бұрын

Hips have sidebend meaning that as you turn the lead side goes down (backswing) and in the downswing, the trails hip (side) goes down.

@walteryap8051 4 жыл бұрын

thanks evening ,, i have trouble hitting golf ball, every time i hit my driver no hit and often miss ball..what should i do..tq

@ToddGravesGolf 4 жыл бұрын

You should slow down and stick to the fundamentals. I use video to study my swing - especially when I am making changes. You should use video to watch yourself.

@benambler1393 4 жыл бұрын

How loose are the arms and wrists in the backswing and transition?

@ToddGravesGolf 4 жыл бұрын

Lead arm has tension. Trail arm no tension at address. Backswing lead arm has tension, trail arm folds (less tension).

@joetroupe893 2 жыл бұрын

Todd, how do I get your book?

@ToddGravesGolf 2 жыл бұрын

IT is on sale at amazon here: www.amazon.com/Single-Plane-Golf-Swing-Better/dp/1612541925/ref=sr_1_3?crid=389YA1CZZOYY5&keywords=the+single+plane+golf+swing+book&qid=1637573210&qsid=140-6086058-8681906&sprefix=the+single+plane+golf+swing%2Caps%2C194&sr=8-3&sres=1612541925%2CB006L6WCY4%2C0071432450%2C0071597492%2C1630269018%2C161254357X%2C1999023633%2C1612549470%2C1496937708%2C099488611X%2CB07D2M49HB%2C0692435417%2C0997316500%2C0671612972%2CB00342WI42%2C1570281254&srpt=ABIS_BOOK

@TheMeeche06 3 жыл бұрын

I confused about the math, I learned in school that the integer with the highest value carries the weight of the actual end result i.e., I was thinking that -80 + 35 = -45!

@kriskarlgren5285 3 жыл бұрын

Hi Dee, you would be correct if your were simply combing terms, however in this video he is referring to total distance so left 80 to right 35 so the total absolute distance, usually in math textbooks the editors use temperature and the question usually is what is the temperature change of -80 degrees to 35 degrees, so basically when you pass through zero you are adding both numbers,

@normankleinberg5525 3 жыл бұрын

@Dee: Yea, that thought crossed my mind as well. However, strictly speaking, it's the difference between back and forward rotation he's after, so it's 35 - (-80) = 115 degrees, which is correct. Regardless, I can't turn my body to that extent, arthritic back. I LOVE Todd's approach and analysis, but it's a non-starter (I was hoping to attend one of his schools this Summer in Connecticut, but soon realized that physically the swing is just not possible for me).

@davereibel4894 4 жыл бұрын

These are really great Todd but you should have a scotch and a pipe as you read to the kids the story of Moe & the single plane swing or at least wear several watches and drink a coke! Cheers!

@ToddGravesGolf 4 жыл бұрын

Good idea!

@melissawallace5409 3 жыл бұрын

Mr. Rogers attempts to teach golf- that's what he looks like on the big red couch. lol :-)

@ToddGravesGolf 3 жыл бұрын

Mr Rogers was my hero.

@ijo1969 3 жыл бұрын

how to buy the trainers?

@ToddGravesGolf 3 жыл бұрын

email me at toddg@gravesgolf.com. Let me know which trainers you want and I'll get you KZfaq discounts. on the products. Thanks.

@samadams2956 4 жыл бұрын

Would Tiger Woods benefit from the single plane swing?

@carlpawlukmusic2143 4 жыл бұрын

He might lose distance, but not have to have back surgery every 6 months.

@thegolfingmusician6345 3 жыл бұрын

Thank God you don’t have any of that crappy computer music like Rick Sheils does.

@shavedhead78 4 жыл бұрын

Todd, I think you should add some fitness to your channel... Mobility, stretching, etc

@guillermitodeir4900 4 жыл бұрын

Golf ball goes dead straight but the flight is to low, my 3wood goes a few feet high, guess i cant complain because i was shooting high 80's and with this new BS i am in the low 80''s. Last round was a 81.

@ToddGravesGolf 4 жыл бұрын

What is your swing speed?

@guillermitodeir4900 4 жыл бұрын

This BS concept eliminates any manipulation with your hands. Ty

@ToddGravesGolf 4 жыл бұрын

You're welcome.