Hidden Gems: Failed 80s Spinoffs That Were Actually Great!

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Retro Renaissance

Retro Renaissance

Күн бұрын

Join me (Kevin) from Retro Renaissance as I uncover the best-kept secrets of the 80s TV world! Discover the unexpectedly amazing shows that emerged from failed spinoffs like "Enos," "AfterMASH," "Booker," and more. Get ready for laughs and nostalgia as we delve into these retro treasures.
Links:
ENOS / @andrewmillsap3634
AFTERMASH / @jeffvv42
Booker / @losawretro1234
FLO / @beratpekuz5299
Toretellis / @tvclassicsgamingpremi...
Day by Day / @theretrodepot
Just the Ten of Us / @lubbockbabesfan81
Checking In / @andrewmillsap3634
The Law and Harry McGraw / @dcmediadump
Living Dolls / @andrewmillsap3634
Chapters:
00:00 Intro
00:20 Enos
03:25 AFTERMash
08:08 Booker
10:21 Flo
14:37 The Toretellis
17:46 Day by Day
20:12 Just the Ten of Us
22:43 Checking In
34:44 The Law and Harry McGraw
27:09 Living Dolls

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@jb888888888
@jb888888888 10 ай бұрын
Carla wasn't a "recurring" character on _Cheers._ She was a regular. One of only four characters who was in every episode.
@SY-ok2dq
@SY-ok2dq 10 ай бұрын
Exactly! It was Frazier who was a recurring character on Cheers.
@richardmark9161
@richardmark9161 10 ай бұрын
WoW I was about to point this out as well.
@zt1053
@zt1053 10 ай бұрын
@@SY-ok2dq He started out recurring, but by season five he was a regular cast member
@SY-ok2dq
@SY-ok2dq 10 ай бұрын
@@zt1053 Yes, but that's 4 seasons where he wasn't a regular - and many shows don't even make it to 3 seasons before getting cancelled. As I vaguely recall, he was a minor recurring character in the beginning (unlike "recurring" characters who are in say, 60~70% of episodes but are not listed as regular cast members). I think his character was only meant to be in a handful of episodes but they liked him so much they extended the run.
@zt1053
@zt1053 10 ай бұрын
@@SY-ok2dq his character was big because he was Sam’s rival for Dianne. I think many viewers sympathized with him when Diane left him at the alter
@georgesouthwick7000
@georgesouthwick7000 10 ай бұрын
Glad to see that Jerry Orbach landed the role of Detective Lenny Briscoe on Law and Order, which gave so many viewers the opportunity to appreciate his talent.
@AnnieBoBannie421
@AnnieBoBannie421 10 ай бұрын
He was the absolute best ♥️
@alanmackie7012
@alanmackie7012 10 ай бұрын
We loved Harry after staggering home from the pub at midnight. Had no idea it was a spin-off.
@thedragonlee76
@thedragonlee76 9 ай бұрын
He voiced cartoon characters in commercials, and most people had no idea that he did and he didn't talk about it.
@eDDyL666
@eDDyL666 6 ай бұрын
He played a villain on the movie F/X
@t.h.8475
@t.h.8475 Ай бұрын
Lenny was my favorite character.
@rexgrl3
@rexgrl3 7 ай бұрын
The Ten of Us: the best scene was at the beginning where they enter their new home and Heather Langenkamp describes the house, "Like something out of a Nightmare on Elm Street." (She played the iconic role of Nancy in the original movies).
@justmeandthethree
@justmeandthethree 29 күн бұрын
She was hot.
@therealcoltstonewolfe
@therealcoltstonewolfe 28 күн бұрын
The ORIGIONAL Freddy Scream Queen she was so pretty.
@jagjr44
@jagjr44 10 ай бұрын
Booker was AWESOME! It also included early roles for Lori Petty, Don Cheadle, Maura Tierney, and Mariska Hargitay, to name a few :)
@seaprincesshnb
@seaprincesshnb 9 ай бұрын
NGL, he lost me during this shows description. Booker NEVER had a mullet. Penhall absolutely had a mullet.
@melcraig9855
@melcraig9855 9 ай бұрын
I enjoyed Booker too!! 😁🙌
@jagjr44
@jagjr44 9 ай бұрын
@@melcraig9855 I have it on DVD :)
@melcraig9855
@melcraig9855 9 ай бұрын
@@jagjr44 that’s awesome 😁🙌
@lamontscott1032
@lamontscott1032 8 ай бұрын
Booker should of got at least 2 more seasons... good job FOX 🙄😑
@justylex
@justylex 10 ай бұрын
The coach in Growing Pains wasn’t a friend of the Seavers. He was a teacher/coach at Mike and Carol’s high school.
@mackdeen7021
@mackdeen7021 5 ай бұрын
And supposedly lost his job “because of a run in with a female student”…. ????? 😮. 🤔
@KristianWontroba
@KristianWontroba 10 ай бұрын
Wouldn’t say Booker’s hair was a mullet. Great video! 😊
@justylex
@justylex 10 ай бұрын
Lol, definitely not a mullet. Actually quite short at the back (a mullet would be long), and long on top….actually the exact opposite of a mullet.
@vincentalmojera5412
@vincentalmojera5412 10 ай бұрын
Grieco definitely did not sport a mullet in either 21 Jump Street or Booker
@jofoster829
@jofoster829 10 ай бұрын
I'm not alone! This beautiful head of hair is totally not a mullet.
@juniorjames7076
@juniorjames7076 10 ай бұрын
All the girls in my high school were crazy about Grieco, they thought he was the next Johnny Depp. I was surprised that show fizzed out. VERY Very 1990s!! Damn, the '90s really had a......distinct look.
@Robd07
@Robd07 10 ай бұрын
Booker was cool! If i learned one lesson in life...Say No to Drugs! Greico really had the looks and threw it all away!
@stevegallo8483
@stevegallo8483 10 ай бұрын
I loved Just the Ten of Us. It was a great show.
@juliemcarthur3004
@juliemcarthur3004 10 ай бұрын
Yes
@haletosis1380
@haletosis1380 10 ай бұрын
Agreed. Way better than it's parent show
@larslan1975
@larslan1975 10 ай бұрын
Better than Growing Pains,for sure!
@rudolphgonzalezjr.6640
@rudolphgonzalezjr.6640 10 ай бұрын
He didn't leave the school because a run with a girl, it was he didn't get paid enough?
@mistad333
@mistad333 10 ай бұрын
I liked it to. Came on TGIF right?
@Bill-Rocker
@Bill-Rocker 8 ай бұрын
Sonny (Enos) one of the nicest guys you would ever meet. He was the same on tv as real life. He signed an autograph for me and told me part of his life story as if I were family.
@justmeandthethree
@justmeandthethree 29 күн бұрын
It's hard to believe that he is dead.
@angelsinger4574
@angelsinger4574 10 ай бұрын
A few bits of trivia: The actress who played Klinger’s wife Soon-Li on “M*A*S*H” and “After Mash” was Rosalind Chao. She would later go on to portray Keiko O’Brien on both “Star Trek: The Next Generation” and “Star Trek: Deep Space Nine.” The actor who played Earl on “Flo” was Geoffrey Lewis, the father of actress Juliette Lewis. He also starred in no less than seven films with Clint Eastwood. “Day by Day” featured a pre-“Melrose Place” Courtney Thorne-Smith. “Checking In” co-starred Larry Linville, most famous for his role as Major Burns on “M*A*S*H.” “The Law & Harry McGraw” would not be Jerry Orbach’s last role as a crime solver. He would go on to star for many seasons of “Law & Order.” He was also Baby’s father in “Dirty Dancing.” Orbach was also the original Billy Flynn in “Chicago” on Broadway! You can find his performance of “All I Care About Is Love” on KZfaq and I highly recommend it.
@GeminiladyJackson-xq6hc
@GeminiladyJackson-xq6hc 10 ай бұрын
Larry Linville was once the son-in-law of actor Will Geer, who played Grandpa Walton on The Waltons.
@bostonrailfan2427
@bostonrailfan2427 10 ай бұрын
…no mention of his role as Lumierre in Beauty and the Beast?
@mikekannely2286
@mikekannely2286 10 ай бұрын
I KNEW I recognized Klinger's wife in those clips.... Thanks!
@probochronicles3991
@probochronicles3991 10 ай бұрын
Don't forget he was the voice of Lumier in Disney's animated Beauty and the Beast
@probochronicles3991
@probochronicles3991 10 ай бұрын
Larry Linville had one other, lesser-known role in Herbie the Love Bug, something I just recently discovered. It was a very short spin-off series from the Love Bug movies with Dean Jones as Jim Douglas....
@vektacular
@vektacular 10 ай бұрын
I use to love Mel’s Diner and Flo saying kiss my grits…..damn the world was so much more fun back then.
@laudanum669
@laudanum669 7 ай бұрын
Besides the MASH spinoff of "AfterMASH' there was "W*A*L*T*E*R" in which (Radar) Gary Burghoff stars as rookie cop Walter O'Reilly. The show only aired once as it was cancelled immediately. Then there was "Trapper John M. D." that show however was quite successful running for seven seasons.
@therealcoltstonewolfe
@therealcoltstonewolfe 28 күн бұрын
Trapper John MD was good. I also watched the newer show they did like 20 yrs ago. . Where the guy who played the doctor was playing as a Doctor near retirement with his Daughter Erin was working as a doctor with him.
@russellst.martin4255
@russellst.martin4255 25 күн бұрын
I remember Victoria Jackson doing the exact same bit on SNL she did on the first episode of W*A*L*T*E*R. I watched an episode of Trapper John immediately after I finished M*A*S*H and just had trouble buying that this was supposed to be the same guy.
@emptyhand777
@emptyhand777 21 күн бұрын
Trapper John MD was not a spinoff of the TV series MASH. In order to get around paying royalties the creators said it was taken directly from the novel. Technically the two shows are not directly related. MASH was a spinoff from the movie which was an adaptation of the novel. Trapper was an adaptation from the novel.
@pooddescrewch8718
@pooddescrewch8718 15 күн бұрын
Everyone forgets Trapper John because it starred Pernell Roberts not Wayne Rogers
@jb888888888
@jb888888888 10 ай бұрын
When Polly Holiday left _Alice to star in _Flo_ she was replaced on _Alice_ by Diane Ladd as Belle. Ladd had played Flo in the film _Alice Doesn't Live Here Anymore._
@kobrakitsch877
@kobrakitsch877 10 ай бұрын
Good trivia call. Polly Holliday as Flo received EMMY nominations while Diane Ladd earned an OSCAR nomination for portraying her.
@alanvallazza9781
@alanvallazza9781 10 ай бұрын
Diane didn't get along with Linda Lavin and quit.
@juniorjames7076
@juniorjames7076 10 ай бұрын
I was only a kid at the time, but to me Alice got real boring after Flo left and my family lost interest in watching. I remember my aunt was a huge Flo stan! We tuned it to watch Flo and Mel fight!!!
@kobrakitsch877
@kobrakitsch877 10 ай бұрын
@@alanvallazza9781 That's very interesting. It explains why Diane Ladd as Belle stayed only during the 1980-1981 season and was later replaced by Celia Weston as Jolene for the remaining 4 seasons of the show.
@marlandkennedy7747
@marlandkennedy7747 10 ай бұрын
I hated Enos but liked flo. I stopped watching the show after she left.
@villain5873
@villain5873 7 ай бұрын
I loved "Just the ten of us"❤. I even loved the backdoor pilot on "Growing pains".
@davidwilsonsr4611
@davidwilsonsr4611 10 ай бұрын
I was in traction for almost 3 months from a stupid motorcycle accident and in the hospital when "Flo" was airing. I watched the premiere and I was hooked. I enjoy each character and their and Flo's comedic timing. I'm pretty sure I've watched all 29 episodes. Of course, in all fairness, I was on a lot of strong medications during that period of my life. 😮😂
@justmeandthethree
@justmeandthethree 29 күн бұрын
You were lucky. Following back surgery I was stuck in bed, and the only thing on TV was the OJ Simpson trial.
@Sugar-Coat_It_Nail_Art_by_Sam
@Sugar-Coat_It_Nail_Art_by_Sam 10 ай бұрын
Great video, one thing Michael Learned was friends with Judith Light's character: Angela Bower Samantha "Micelli's" mom wasn't alive.
@ImmortalBroken
@ImmortalBroken 10 ай бұрын
Thank you, I was going to say this! And Leah's character Charlie was Samantha's friend from Brooklyn. I was obsessed with Living Dolls when it was on!
@wandamontgomery6030
@wandamontgomery6030 10 ай бұрын
That's what I thought
@peaceknot
@peaceknot 10 ай бұрын
Yes! Came looking for this ocmment.
@JCole78
@JCole78 10 ай бұрын
I was hoping someone else caught it.
@aaacomp1
@aaacomp1 8 ай бұрын
Yeah it was weird for him to say it was her mom. He even called her Minelli, not Micelli.
@hurgar7596
@hurgar7596 10 ай бұрын
Never heard about living Dolls when it came out. But the fact it had 2 iconic TV moms in it surprised me. Michael Learned was the mom on the Waltons and Marion Ross was the mom on Happy Days.
@franklincourten8281
@franklincourten8281 10 ай бұрын
Michael Learned wasn’t REALLY Samantha Micelli’s mother. Her father Tony was a widower in the series “Who’s the Boss?” Michael Learned’s character was a “house mother” for the models, I think?
@CrookedIproductions
@CrookedIproductions 10 ай бұрын
Michael Learned's character was a college friend of Angela's, I believe.
@Scottj2011
@Scottj2011 10 ай бұрын
​@@CrookedIproductionsYes you are exactly right 👍
@Dawnsdelightsart
@Dawnsdelightsart 10 ай бұрын
I will always love mash, was a kid and was a great time watching with my grandma.
@barbarameyer649
@barbarameyer649 10 ай бұрын
MASH was one of the greatest tv shows ever.
@poolplayergus
@poolplayergus 10 ай бұрын
100%
@karatalley1987
@karatalley1987 7 ай бұрын
I totally agree.
@joeydepalmer4457
@joeydepalmer4457 8 ай бұрын
I actually liked After Mash, though I did not see it tell about 5 to 10 years ago for the first time. It reminded me how hard it was for me to leave the army for civi street back in the early 1990s and still some times have.
@xnvaznx
@xnvaznx 9 ай бұрын
As a kid, M*A*S*H was one of my favorite shows and still is today. It struck a good balance of comedy and drama.
@michaelr3578
@michaelr3578 10 ай бұрын
Checking In, with Marla Gibbs, was a spinoff of the Jeffersons, which itself was a spinoff of All in the Family.
@zanizone3617
@zanizone3617 8 ай бұрын
I loved Enos. And I also loved how in the Dukes of Hazzard reunion movie they acknowledged it by making Enos a badass, as he was in his own show, and not the doofus he was in Hazzard.
@johnharris3362
@johnharris3362 5 ай бұрын
I remember in the first episode of Enos he has a suspect in the backseat of his Chevelle getting the ride of his life when Enos gets close to going over a cliff when Enos tellhim he'd rather go back to Hazzard dead then shamed.
@roshieifra
@roshieifra 7 ай бұрын
I never understood mash when I was a kid, but watching it as an adult, it was great. There were some really bittersweet, amazing episodes.
@jimbobjones9330
@jimbobjones9330 7 ай бұрын
Yep. Huge fan of it since I was in my late 20s or so. Thought it was boring as sin when I was a kid.
@scifigirl74
@scifigirl74 10 ай бұрын
You unlock a memory with Just the 10 of us. I really enjoyed that show when it aired.
@pablosonic892
@pablosonic892 10 ай бұрын
I was a kid and loved MASH. Different generations and we from the same era.
@rang123yea5
@rang123yea5 7 ай бұрын
The Booker theme song "Hot in the City" was written by Billy Idol for the show, and it was awesome.
@tonyborelli.
@tonyborelli. Ай бұрын
i think the song existed before the show
@synthonaplinth5980
@synthonaplinth5980 9 ай бұрын
Marion Ross was such a great 'mother' actress that no show wanted to change her name. :)
@0nehalo59
@0nehalo59 9 ай бұрын
Booker was an awesome spinoff! It was cool when Booker had a 2part crossover episode with 21 Jumpstreet when he united with the old 21Jumpstreet to get Tom Hanson out of prison for a murder he never committed! Booker should've lasted longer!
@denisenoles3159
@denisenoles3159 9 ай бұрын
The storylines were awful. Glad you enjoyed it though.
@babygirlzmommy
@babygirlzmommy 8 ай бұрын
That was episode 1 of Season 4 of 21 Jumpstreet. The one where he Reunited with some of them was the 2 part ( started on Booker and ended on 21 Jumpstreet) where the Jump street Guys Minus Hanson cause he'd be recognized join a moter bike group to take down the guy who was one of the main reasons Hanson ended up in Jail it was Episode 1 of season 8 of Booker Deals and Wheels and season 4 epsidoe 10 of Jump street 😮 Wheels and Deals pr 2
@ItsFreakinHarding.
@ItsFreakinHarding. 6 ай бұрын
Yeah I loved the show 21 Jump Street and Booker as well. I wish Booker would have lasted longer but like someone else said on here some of the story lines were pretty bad. And Richard Grieco did not have a freaking mullet, he just had REALLY big, great hair... with a ton of product in it!
@mauriceortiz8817
@mauriceortiz8817 10 ай бұрын
There was a 70s pilot episode on Welcome Back Kotter which would have been an amazing spin-off for Lawrence Hilton Jacobs and George Carlin and Fred Grandy, which took place inna radio station. It preceded WKRP in Cincinnati. Ahead of it's time, I suppose.
@juniorjames7076
@juniorjames7076 10 ай бұрын
Damn, that sounds like a helleva cast!??!! George Carlin? They probably conflicted with the corporate suits at the time. Carlin was the edgiest comedian at that time and I'm sure he would have wanted to push boundaries on that show. They probably toned it down and created what would become WKRP in Cincinnati.
@mauriceortiz8817
@mauriceortiz8817 10 ай бұрын
@@juniorjames7076 yeah, George was a master at stand up. He's like the Shake a Spear of comedy
@justken1900
@justken1900 10 ай бұрын
I thought that was just an episode of Kotter. That would have been a great show.
@keithfulkerson
@keithfulkerson 10 ай бұрын
@@justken1900 there's a term, "backdoor pilot", that refers to having an episode of a show serve as a pilot for another show.
@dhenderson1810
@dhenderson1810 8 ай бұрын
​@@keithfulkersonThey had another episode which was about Horshack and his relatives, which was planned to be a back-door pilot for an Arnold Horshack series.
@newwavepop
@newwavepop 8 ай бұрын
Enos is the first spinoff i remember ever being aware of when i was a kid and i was really excited for it, i remember watching the premier and liking it but after that i only remember seeing a few more episodes and it was gone. i had the same feelings as you about MASH, my Father LOVED it and always watched it and i thought it was boring as hell and always left the room. as a kid i never even realized it was about Korea "which my Father served in" and i had always assumed it was about Vietnam. i never even knew there was a spinoff. i was a huge 21 Jumpstreet fan in high school and Booker was another show i did like and then it was gone. i LOVED Alice as well, i was growing up in Oklahoma and as a kid and my father worked at a Truck Stop out in the country beside the highway and i grew up around that place. i even got to meet George "Goober" Lindsay who is in that Flo clip there once when i was a kid, but that show always had an extra special place for me because the characters really reminded me of the people i grew up around who worked at and hung out at the Truck Stop. Flo is another one i remember but it just vanished so fast.
@MackyFermion
@MackyFermion 10 ай бұрын
Oooh new Retro Renaissance, what a treat! Thanks for sharing your time with us!
@robertbroughton1443
@robertbroughton1443 10 ай бұрын
I remember my favorite line from the law, and Harry McGraw was when he asked the lady lawyer to have his prescription filled, and she looked at the label, then stated you're supposed to take 1 pill every 10 hours, and his retort was "I thought it said to take 10 pills every 1 hour, no wonder I'm feeling so good". That was classic.
@mammajamma4397
@mammajamma4397 8 ай бұрын
I LOVED Just the Ten of Us as a kid! I recognized the girl from Nigtmare on Elm Street because I had seen just the ten of us first. I didn't realize it was only on for 3 seasons. BUT ALSO...coach dad being "fired from his high school coaching job after a run-in with a female student" definitely should not have been used as the plot kick-off for a family comedy. The 80s, man....
@vinylmisfit2165
@vinylmisfit2165 8 ай бұрын
Little more Trivia here - essentially, the 3 you see in AFTERMash (Jamie Farr, William Christopher and Henry Morgan) are the 3 who voted to continue the show after the 11th season, the rest of the cast voted against doing more which is why they got this spin off. If there was a third series there was talks of Alan Alda (Hawkeye) guest starring, shame we didn’t get to see that in the end. I’m a little biased as I’m a huge MASH fan but I really enjoyed watching this spin off, it’s a shame it just didn’t get the viewing figures it needed to continue but I completely understand why.
@HuntingViolets
@HuntingViolets 2 ай бұрын
Yes, I liked it.
@wednesdaywork2311
@wednesdaywork2311 8 ай бұрын
12:13 I actually remember this episode. Since they had been using the toilets for years already, they got to keep using them legally without having to pay. They had "squatter's rights".
@NickMichalak
@NickMichalak 9 ай бұрын
Just The Ten of Us was also notable in featuring three actress alumni from the Nightmare On Elm Street franchise - Heather Langenkamp, Brooke Thiess, & JoAnn Willette.
@evelynbeveraggi8724
@evelynbeveraggi8724 8 ай бұрын
Cute show, spin- off from my favorite, growing pains.
@davidpumpkinsjr.5108
@davidpumpkinsjr.5108 10 ай бұрын
The mascot for St. Augustine's was the Hippos. That's a clever joke that not many people would catch.
@annenelson5656
@annenelson5656 10 ай бұрын
Good one! Too subtle for most people especially non-Catholics.
@pacotoyful
@pacotoyful 10 ай бұрын
I loved Just the ten of us! That was a great show!
@0011peace
@0011peace 8 ай бұрын
seeing the name at first i though maybe it was a spin off of 8 is enough
@michaelsasylum
@michaelsasylum 10 ай бұрын
Just The Ten of Us was a well liked show in my family. One of the few shows we all would watch together.
@matthewtramp1148
@matthewtramp1148 10 ай бұрын
Just the 10 of us was canceled because Miller-Boyett productions Who were dominating the sitcoms on ABC were promised a slot for one of their new shows on TGIF night. ABC did not have any other time slots to put just the 10 of us on for another season and that’s why the shows was canceled.
@bostonrailfan2427
@bostonrailfan2427 10 ай бұрын
they regretted it too, the replacements were huge flops
@matthewtramp1148
@matthewtramp1148 10 ай бұрын
You are correct, the tv series was called Going Places with Heather Locklear and Allen Ruck.
@bostonrailfan2427
@bostonrailfan2427 10 ай бұрын
@@matthewtramp1148 there was another IIRC, either of which doomed the show…but that one in particular was the one that took its slot.
@glam2gobeauty811
@glam2gobeauty811 10 ай бұрын
Wow I forgot about Miller-Boyett
@RockinEd
@RockinEd 10 ай бұрын
​@@glam2gobeauty811 They filled the gap that Norman Lear did at CBS.
@justylex
@justylex 10 ай бұрын
Booker was awesome. I actually liked it better than 21 Jump Street (and I loved Jump street!). Richard Grieco was so gorgeous back then.
@lizardog
@lizardog 10 ай бұрын
His skin looked like it didn't have any pores at all, smooth as porcelain.
@gaspikefan
@gaspikefan 10 ай бұрын
I watched and enjoyed Booker back in the day! One note, though... I don't think Booker ever sported a mullet (as mentioned in this video). Grieco had a lot of hair up top at the time, but never the "party in the back" that would make it a mullet.
@justylex
@justylex 10 ай бұрын
@@gaspikefan definately not a mullet….and as a Canadian with a hockey player older brother, I know full well what a mullet looks like😂
@patronsaintofnow9765
@patronsaintofnow9765 10 ай бұрын
Richard Greico did not have a 'mullet'.
@jrebecca0195
@jrebecca0195 10 ай бұрын
Yeah, that was weird comment from him.
@nicktaylor2657
@nicktaylor2657 10 ай бұрын
Enos and Flo are prime examples of popular characters in shows that just aren't strong enough to carry a series Good when interacting with the other cast but take that away not enough 😊
@angelsinger4574
@angelsinger4574 10 ай бұрын
Not everyone is George & Weezy, I’m afraid.
@GeminiladyJackson-xq6hc
@GeminiladyJackson-xq6hc 10 ай бұрын
Enos wasn't funny on his own.
@matthewtramp1148
@matthewtramp1148 10 ай бұрын
Flo did well in the first season. Polly Holiday earned an Emmy nomination. In the 2nd season, CBS moved the series to a different time slot, which caused the decline in ratings
@juniorjames7076
@juniorjames7076 10 ай бұрын
They put Marla Gibbs' (Florence) snappy character in a show surrounded by lame, bland characters that she could not bounce off. Like later in 227, Marla is better sparring with other witty, punchy, smart aleck, and (honestly) BLACK characters. WTH? Maybe they were trying to create another Benson?
@dhenderson1810
@dhenderson1810 8 ай бұрын
"Joey" is another example of this.
@j.p.6932
@j.p.6932 10 ай бұрын
17:52 I totally remember this (vaguely). Wasn’t the guy who played Greg in the Brady Bunch movie (95) have a dream episode where’s he’s the 4th Brady brother?
@rhonettem.1974
@rhonettem.1974 10 ай бұрын
I have not thought of some of these shows in years! Thank you for the format of this channel!
@ceasarandrepont1243
@ceasarandrepont1243 Ай бұрын
I must say, I am looking back at these early shows, and being the '80s and '90s, I wish they would return. Things were so much easier and society was together, I guess.
@jgarrison1309
@jgarrison1309 9 ай бұрын
This is a terrific drinking game... take a shot every time the narrator says the word "navigate".
@nickchislom9499
@nickchislom9499 27 күн бұрын
🥃 Bottoms up
@GEMof72
@GEMof72 8 күн бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@dannyfoster1623
@dannyfoster1623 10 ай бұрын
I only had a chance to see just a few of After Mash episodes but loved each one.
@markelijio6012
@markelijio6012 9 ай бұрын
After MASH lasted for two seasons between September 1983 and December 1984 on CBS.
@TheReally4rob
@TheReally4rob 10 ай бұрын
Michael Learned wasn't Samantha's mom in Whos the Boss/Living Dolls. I think she was friend of the future step-mother Angela.
@matthewtramp1148
@matthewtramp1148 10 ай бұрын
The characters name was Trish, she and Angela were sorority sisters in college. Leah Remini’s character was a friend of Samantha’s back in Brooklyn.
@zt1053
@zt1053 10 ай бұрын
This guy really didn't do his research.
@AndyJay1985
@AndyJay1985 8 ай бұрын
"Excuse me, Flo? *laughs hysterically*" - Lloyd Christmas
@johnpierce2095
@johnpierce2095 8 ай бұрын
i wanted a after mash more like a hour long tv special showing how they all went home and reunited with loved ones,
@cjp1599
@cjp1599 Ай бұрын
An hour of Col Potter would be unbearable.
@chand101099
@chand101099 10 ай бұрын
I believe if After/Mash had taken place on a military base hospital the show had gone on longer, we Mash fans were used to seeing our beloved characters in a military surrounding and in uniform....
@radrobd123
@radrobd123 10 ай бұрын
I don't think so. The problem with AFTERMash is that is lacked the primary characters MASH fans wanted to see - Hawkeye, BJ, Hot Lips. Klinger was a supporting character and nobody wanted to see the priest get his own show.
@juniorjames7076
@juniorjames7076 10 ай бұрын
@@radrobd123 I think by then those actors playing Hawkeye, etc were big name movie stars acting in films. They couldn't afford them. Frankly, I'm surprised Jamie Farr didn't do more film roles. He was a breakout on that show.
@bradyguy7701
@bradyguy7701 8 ай бұрын
I agree. AfterMASH should have taken place at a military hospital during wartime...with Potter as a Colonel...Klinger as a Corporal...and Father Mulcahy as...well...a priest. Add a couple of sardonic surgeons and you might have a hit show! I'd watch that...
@user-rg7uh9se4c
@user-rg7uh9se4c 4 ай бұрын
You may be right, Chand. The switch to civilian threads and settings wrecked the characters.
@user-rg7uh9se4c
@user-rg7uh9se4c 2 ай бұрын
Neither Mash nor its TV sequel here ever mentioned Kim ll Sung. The North Korean mass-murderer/communist/leader who totally started the entire Korean War.
@e815usa
@e815usa 10 ай бұрын
Day by Day has the great Chuck Brady episode!
@markelijio6012
@markelijio6012 5 ай бұрын
A wonderful episode with most of the cast/crew of the 1969-1974 TV series - The Brady Bunch.
@andrewaeymour
@andrewaeymour 7 ай бұрын
100% agree, I almost watched everyone of these. Thank you for this
@drewmonroe3747
@drewmonroe3747 9 ай бұрын
Great subject here. Thanks for explaining the 'back-story' on these shows. After MASH and Flow were well written gems. Hope you do more of these :) 📺 Have subscribed ☑
@steveswangler6373
@steveswangler6373 10 ай бұрын
Enos was not a “recurring” character in the Dukes of Hazzard, and Carla was not a recurring character in Cheers. Recurring characters appear sporadically, and don’t have their names in the opening credits. Nick Tortelli was a recurring character on Cheers. Carla was a supporting character.
@bradyguy7701
@bradyguy7701 9 ай бұрын
I'm not even sure I'd call Carla "supporting". She was in EVERY episode of the series and there were stories specifically about her and her family. Yes, Ted and Shelley were the "stars" (Kirstie never quite got up to Shelley's level...) but that was truly the essence of an "ensemble" show at its best. That's what made it work!
@bradyguy7701
@bradyguy7701 9 ай бұрын
Sonny Shroyer wasn't in the opening credits....he was usually listed as "WITH..." POST-theme song when the episode proper began...oddly enough, he was often listed AFTER "Ben Jones as Cooter"....Poor Sonny...
@cvill03
@cvill03 10 ай бұрын
Getting my life together, finding out certain shows had spin-offs
@r.j.powers381
@r.j.powers381 10 ай бұрын
I reached a point where I never started watching a show until its second season. Inevitably any show I liked during the new season would go off the air after a few shows. Must have been my bad taste as a kid. Saturday morning cartoons were more reliable. But this is a fun video. 👍👍👍👍
@JesseTiede
@JesseTiede 10 ай бұрын
Yeah, I was always diametrically opposed to the critics! If they said a show, or movie was crap, it turned out to be one of my favorites! And, when they said one was soooooooo good, well, the show generally had me puking by the second scene, and never got any better...
@AGhostintheHouse
@AGhostintheHouse 9 ай бұрын
I get what you are saying, most of my high school classmates loved Square Pegs and all of a sudden it was off the air.
@markroberts2277
@markroberts2277 9 ай бұрын
AfterMash was a success in its first season ,until CBS moved it to Tuesday nights opposite The A Team, which killed it in ratings.
@Scotty-Z70
@Scotty-Z70 8 ай бұрын
i LOVE LOVE LOVED the show ENOS. I wish it was full seasoned and more of it
@jodihepler6202
@jodihepler6202 9 ай бұрын
It really makes you wonder why they weren't a big hit when you see such an all-star cast. Like Living Dolls had so many famous actresses and upcoming actresses.
@waltertrusevych9209
@waltertrusevych9209 9 ай бұрын
and it was a decent show
@crystalshaw8744
@crystalshaw8744 6 ай бұрын
And Leah Remini was good in that show and it was kinda funny.
@tylerthompson1842
@tylerthompson1842 9 ай бұрын
I always feel bad for the struggles unknown actors hired for supporting roles. They get the gig, get their hopes up and it bombs. Obviously it workout well for some of them and it’s cool to see where their journey started. It’s a gamble especially a cash grab spinoff which reeks desperation. I’m sure they asked Johnny Depp first before Richard Greco and he turned it down.. smart move
@hatednyc
@hatednyc 10 ай бұрын
😂 I used to change the channel when I heard that mash music as a kid, too. 19:33 Thora Birch!
@SY-ok2dq
@SY-ok2dq 10 ай бұрын
I thought that was her too! Since I knew that she worked a lot as a child on films and TV, I thought it could be her.
@markelijio6012
@markelijio6012 5 ай бұрын
She was now married to Michael Adler and has now been part of the Birch, Adler and Wexler families - Patricia Birch, Lou Adler, Page Hannah Adler, Gale Adler, Howard Adler, Haskell Wexler, Rita Taggart Wexler and Jeff Wexler.
@MrKaywyn
@MrKaywyn 10 ай бұрын
Very interesting. I really love those opening credits sequences.
@DCMarvelMultiverse
@DCMarvelMultiverse 10 ай бұрын
Booker was on at 10pm Sundays. Not a good bedtime for the teens and college kids.
@chucktplatt
@chucktplatt 10 ай бұрын
I think they switched him to mondays but I’m not sure . But I did like his show along with Sunday nights PARKER LEWIS CANT LOSE !
@johnwanner1446
@johnwanner1446 10 ай бұрын
After Mash was an excellent show. I would love to own that on DVD.
@colinchampollion4420
@colinchampollion4420 10 ай бұрын
YUCK ~ After MASH😢
@monicamason3414
@monicamason3414 10 ай бұрын
I watched "Booker" as I was a Richard Grieco fan. I also liked "Just The Ten Of Us" & "Living Dolls".
@julieletford5695
@julieletford5695 9 ай бұрын
Me too. I also liked Day by Day.
@tjppop2192
@tjppop2192 10 ай бұрын
Just the Ten of Us is literally the only one of these shows that I knew of which is odd because I was super into Dukes of Hazzard and Cheers. I wouldn’t put Just the Ten of Us in the failed category.
@behindthescenesphotos5133
@behindthescenesphotos5133 10 ай бұрын
Three seasons is a pretty decent run.
@bradyguy7701
@bradyguy7701 9 ай бұрын
@@behindthescenesphotos5133 Technically TWO...but who's counting. Not you....🙄🙄
@markelijio6012
@markelijio6012 5 ай бұрын
@@behindthescenesphotos5133 As a real result, I believe in you. A year later, the series has aired on the USA Network from Fall 1990 to Spring 2005.
@markelijio6012
@markelijio6012 5 ай бұрын
@@bradyguy7701 Have you ever take your vacation while you're away, sir?
@markelijio6012
@markelijio6012 5 ай бұрын
@@behindthescenesphotos5133 Look, I believe in you. I do. Because I care.
@Poppaea-Sabina
@Poppaea-Sabina 6 ай бұрын
I loved MASH as a child. And Trapper John MD
@crazy1234573
@crazy1234573 10 ай бұрын
I loved Living Dolls and Just the ten of us. Fun fact about Just the ten of us, Bill Medley, of the righteous brothers and singer of (I've had) the time of my life from Dirty Dancing sang the theme song. I also caught a glimps of Double Trouble at the beginning....i would love more discussions of that show!!! I loved that show soooo much.
@monicam1548
@monicam1548 10 ай бұрын
Yes I love Double Trouble. Too bad the twins didn't have a career like their sister (Peggy on Married with Children).
@crazy1234573
@crazy1234573 10 ай бұрын
@@monicam1548 ♥️♥️♥️♥️🤣🤣🤣 I know!!!! That would have been so cool.
@RCHMNY1
@RCHMNY1 10 ай бұрын
Double Trouble had a pre "Home Improvement" Patricia Richardson being a potential love interest for the dad
@crazy1234573
@crazy1234573 10 ай бұрын
@RCHMNY1 I know, she worked at the dance studio and was friends with his wife before she died.
@bradyguy7701
@bradyguy7701 9 ай бұрын
@@markelijio6012 "were now acted as TV directors." Yikes. Is that sentence?? I need a nap...
@JoeyArmstrong2800
@JoeyArmstrong2800 10 ай бұрын
"Baywatch Nights" takes the cake for the best spinoff ever. It's so ridiculously entertaining.
@DCMarvelMultiverse
@DCMarvelMultiverse 10 ай бұрын
Allison Pregler's channel has an episode by episode series of both Baywatch and BN. Hilarious.
@seanm6215
@seanm6215 10 ай бұрын
​@@DCMarvelMultiversepretty funny and she's pretty far into it to. Lots of eps.
@nicktaylor2657
@nicktaylor2657 10 ай бұрын
It is missing the one thing it had going in Baywatch Good looking lifeguards running in slow motion 😊
@williammitchell4417
@williammitchell4417 10 ай бұрын
Sorry Hoff no KITT.
@bostonrailfan2427
@bostonrailfan2427 10 ай бұрын
NCIS, Laverne and Shirley, The Jeffersons, Frasier would like to dispute that claim…
@carrieannmcleod5219
@carrieannmcleod5219 10 ай бұрын
I wonder why I don't remember seeing any promotions for the show because I would have watched After Mash if I had known about it since I loved Mash and all the characters.
@babygirlzmommy
@babygirlzmommy 8 ай бұрын
I remember watching it recently.. online... I just can't remember where.. but pretty sure it's out there
@redwillow79schippers94
@redwillow79schippers94 10 ай бұрын
I loved Booker. Really too bad it was cancelled
@lizardog
@lizardog 10 ай бұрын
If Looks Could Kill was a fun movie too.
@spyderd8165
@spyderd8165 10 ай бұрын
I liked his show Marker which didn’t last
@babygirlzmommy
@babygirlzmommy 8 ай бұрын
​@spyderd8165 I managed to find the whole Season on KZfaq..
@ENDTIMEsVideoLibrary
@ENDTIMEsVideoLibrary 10 ай бұрын
You couldn't have said it better!! The beginning MASH Themesong definitely meant it was Time To Change the Channel for me as a kid too!! I didn't want ANY more MASH and was quite pleased when it went off the air as well as it's Spinoff!
@chrischar9428
@chrischar9428 10 ай бұрын
Not a spinoff
@ENDTIMEsVideoLibrary
@ENDTIMEsVideoLibrary 10 ай бұрын
@@chrischar9428 Still hated it just as much!! It was just a Spinoff in my own mind if nothing else! That was good enough to turn the channel..
@johnnybravado7141
@johnnybravado7141 10 ай бұрын
@@ENDTIMEsVideoLibrary Thank you Mr. No-taste.
@Turnheadcough
@Turnheadcough 10 ай бұрын
@@johnnybravado7141lame comment
@johnnybravado7141
@johnnybravado7141 10 ай бұрын
@@Turnheadcough lame brain
@indiefilmcafe
@indiefilmcafe 10 ай бұрын
Do one for Failed 90s spinoffs. I def think Models Inc was the 90s Living Dolls. Glad to see Just the ten of us got 3 seasons. That needs to be on Blu Ray
@radrobd123
@radrobd123 10 ай бұрын
Shows about models don't do well. In the 1980s, there was the soap Paper Dolls and the sitcom Living Dolls, both cancelled after 1/2 season. In the 90s, there was Models Inc., cancelled after one season. In the 2000s, there was The Beautiful Life: TBL, cancelled after a few episodes.
@indiefilmcafe
@indiefilmcafe 10 ай бұрын
@@radrobd123 wowww you’re absolutely right. Note to self don’t write a tv show about models lol
@markelijio6012
@markelijio6012 5 ай бұрын
I'm so glad to see "Just the Ten of Us" had ran for 3 seasons on ABC (1988-1990) and move to the USA Network which ran for a total of 15 seasons (1990-2005). Not bad.
@p.d.l7023
@p.d.l7023 10 ай бұрын
I loved Just the 10 of Us for 2 reasons: I'm a mark for Heather L. and I was a fan of Kirkenbower from seeing him open for Gallagher.
@mrScififan2
@mrScififan2 10 ай бұрын
Thank you for this wonderful video. In some alternate quantum reality, these shows are all huge hits!
@JoseTwitterFan
@JoseTwitterFan 8 ай бұрын
There was also Three's Company spin-off "The Ropers", especially midway through Season 2 when Louise Vallance joined the cast as Jenny Ballinger. Despite a late upward surge in the ratings, the show would ultimately be cancelled by ABC. She would go on to play Whazzat Kangaroo on "Zoobilee Zoo" and lend her voice to hundreds of cartoon shows since then.
@evelynbeveraggi8724
@evelynbeveraggi8724 8 ай бұрын
It wasn't a good spin- off, & neither was Threes a crowd, with just John Ritter. Three company was the best, with the Ropers, & my favorite Mr. Furly.
@gamewizard1760
@gamewizard1760 13 күн бұрын
@@evelynbeveraggi8724 All three shows were based on British sitcoms that came out earlier. Three's Company was based on Man About the House, The Ropers was based on George and Mildred, and Three's a Crowd was based on Robin's Nest.
@alexanderpostma7148
@alexanderpostma7148 10 ай бұрын
Kate Mulgrew as 'Mrs. Colombo'
@chrischar9428
@chrischar9428 10 ай бұрын
That's a whole nother mess
@markelijio6012
@markelijio6012 9 ай бұрын
Aired on NBC Late Night for 12 seasons from 1979 to 1990.
@chrischar9428
@chrischar9428 9 ай бұрын
@@markelijio6012 what did
@jhhone
@jhhone 10 ай бұрын
I love your videos. "Enos" may have faired better as a 30 minute sitcom. The one hour police procedural didn't fit with that character. Michael Learned had said if the show lasted she would have been fired and replaced with Marion Ross. She said they wanted her to be Charlotte Rae not the Eileen Ford type she played the character as. CBS later had Dick Van Dyke and Mary Tyler Moore shows follow each other. "The Van Dyke Show" aired before "Annie Maguire" in the late 80s.
@bradyguy7701
@bradyguy7701 8 ай бұрын
That was an odd choice. Few dramas have spun off of sitcoms (Lou Grant, anyone??) especially with such a silly character like Enos... It was always going to be a tough sell. Imagine Gomer Pyle going to the big city and becoming a teacher...or a lawyer...
@0011peace
@0011peace 8 ай бұрын
@@bradyguy7701 Trapper John, MD was drama that was spin off of Mash.
@bradyguy7701
@bradyguy7701 8 ай бұрын
@@0011peace Nope. Technically...and "legally"...not a spinoff. I've explained it a few times in other comments. Scroll down...
@0011peace
@0011peace 8 ай бұрын
@@bradyguy7701 in a lter episode they did give the mash number and it was 4077 go for teh mash which wasn't the numnber for the movie so they lied in court. The Movie was 8055. So sing the TV show mash number was proof they lied.
@markelijio6012
@markelijio6012 4 күн бұрын
The Emmy nominated hit television series on CBS that’s been lasted for seven successful seasons from September 1979 to March 1986.
@moleahy6880
@moleahy6880 6 ай бұрын
That was a big thing in the 70's and 80's especially on sitcoms. A very popular character would be spun off into his/her own show. Most of the time it didn't work out but there were some very successful exceptions. Frasier for example.
@Damsels2001
@Damsels2001 2 ай бұрын
You got me on Enos. I remember that show still till this day. Got me on another one Aftermash.
@j.r.cilliangreen4083
@j.r.cilliangreen4083 10 ай бұрын
I loved Just the Ten of Us!
@socalcol1
@socalcol1 10 ай бұрын
You missed that both Empty Nest and The Golden Palace was a spin off of golden girls - although since you specified 80s I think Golden Palace was 90s, but Empty nest should have counted.
@markelijio6012
@markelijio6012 10 ай бұрын
Lasted for 7 seasons!@darktitan6308
@mrg8581
@mrg8581 10 ай бұрын
​@darktitan6308 Empty Nest lasted for seven seasons.
@chrisbenson906
@chrisbenson906 10 ай бұрын
This one took me back. I remember watching this { Popcorn Float } Love it keep up the good work
@redbarron1010
@redbarron1010 8 ай бұрын
Wow I never heard of AfterMash. Really enjoyed this video 👍 my favorite spin off was Soap. Loved that show. 😊
@nashshaffer6235
@nashshaffer6235 10 ай бұрын
I liked Mash and After Mash. I liked seeing how they adjusted to civilian life Just the 10 of us and Checking in should have gotten a chance
@censusgary
@censusgary 10 ай бұрын
“Flo” was, among other things, one of countless examples of how bad Hollywood is at doing TV series set in Texas. I’ve got to think the writers (and the accent coaches!) have never been to Texas. A major exception was “King of the Hill.” That animated show was an accurate portrayal of the culture and dialect of Garland, Texas, and was very well-written.
@behindthescenesphotos5133
@behindthescenesphotos5133 10 ай бұрын
And on Frasier, Roz was supposed to be from Wisconsin despite her Texas accent which is never addressed.
@jgrab1
@jgrab1 10 ай бұрын
The creators of Thirtysomething never visited Philadelphia until the show's second season. They said they were surprised how slovenly Philadelphia people dressed compared to the characters in the show (who looked far too "LA"). They didn't quite state it that bluntly, but that's what they meant.
@MrJacMac1968
@MrJacMac1968 10 ай бұрын
Same with Mollys younger sister on Mike and Molly who was supposed to be from Chicago but had a Deep South accent
@paulleckner8235
@paulleckner8235 7 ай бұрын
I liked After Mash. It showed how veterans adjusted to civilian life. Max Kilnger brought his wife back to the USA and struggled. I appreciated the scene where the heartbroken veteran got the letter that his fiance got married to a local man. He bawled to Klinger's wife that Max was a genius. He wouldn't let her get away. Love is so important!
@ozzielee9058
@ozzielee9058 10 ай бұрын
I remember liking "AfterMash." And, I only watched MASH sporadically. Excellent compilation & commentary. Thanks much.
@davidhooie4692
@davidhooie4692 10 ай бұрын
I loved Enos! I wish it was available to purchase or stream somewhere!
@Ilovesharks444
@Ilovesharks444 10 ай бұрын
I haven't checked yet but the alot of older shows end up on daily motion, you might be able to find it there 🙂
@HHH-ye1ro
@HHH-ye1ro Ай бұрын
Just the Ten of us was a big part of my sitcom viewing. Really enjoyed it.
@sha11235
@sha11235 10 ай бұрын
Glad you mentioned Just the Ten of Us, which has been rediscovered on here by Retrofat Channel.
@ukyo1975
@ukyo1975 8 ай бұрын
Just the 10 of us was one of my favorite shows of my teenage years. I had a HUGE crush on Jamie Luner. She played Cindy Lubbock.
@markelijio6012
@markelijio6012 Ай бұрын
After a few flops, Jamie Luner finally got great success with Profiler for three seasons and replaced by Ally Walker in its fourth and final season.
@NickMichalak
@NickMichalak 9 ай бұрын
Honestly, Booker was great! Perfect fusion of charm, action, drama, and humor with an excellent, stylish lead. Grieco never really was able to break through like Depp, but showed he was marketable and exciting to watch. Unfortunately, the DVD set was incomplete as music licensing was a problem for the b.b. King episode, and the original Billy Idol theme song still remains missing from the show even on Peacock. At least Peacock reinstated the episode "Someone Stole Lucille."
@babygirlzmommy
@babygirlzmommy 8 ай бұрын
I have Someone Stole Lucille on my dvd set..
@vela0854
@vela0854 8 ай бұрын
I barely remember the show Alicia, but I remember Flo. I loved her. Watched reruns at my babysitter. I liked Just the 10 of us. Most of the other shows didn't register my memory.
@normanlennox4949
@normanlennox4949 10 ай бұрын
I similarly couldn't stand MASH as a kid. Now I'm working my way through it, and loving it.
@skiprockjr.6881
@skiprockjr.6881 10 ай бұрын
I was a fan of Booker. Great theme song, Billy Idol's "Hot In The City".
@rony41165
@rony41165 10 ай бұрын
I wonder how the djow would have fared if johnny depp was tge star instead of grieco. He was offered the spin off but turned it down
@skiprockjr.6881
@skiprockjr.6881 10 ай бұрын
@@rony41165 I think it would've been doomed to fail regardless. 21 Jump Street had run its course by that time. If Looks Could Kill is free on YT here. I'm gonna watch it right now.
@markelijio6012
@markelijio6012 9 ай бұрын
New World Entertainment didn't hit it big again until "The Commish," "Silk Stalkings" and "Renegade" - three of TV's long running hit programs for the Disney based television studio.
@stingrey1571
@stingrey1571 10 ай бұрын
the last few seasons of murder she wrote, angela lansbury was just coasting. she had it worked out where she worked half the time. to fill her absence, cbs did a bunch of back door pilots disguised as murder she wrote episodes.
@kareneverett7497
@kareneverett7497 6 ай бұрын
There were a couple of seasons where she was recovering from surgery too. I can't remember which but it was knee or hip surgery. I think after that, physically it was just too hard to do that many episodes a year.
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