Return of the King Side-by-Side: Rankin/Bass ('80) & Peter Jackson ('03)

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Matt Skuta

Matt Skuta

6 жыл бұрын

A side-by-side, shot-for-shot comparison between the Rankin/Bass and Peter Jackson adaptations of JRR Tolkien's The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King.
edited by Matt Skuta
The Hobbit (1977/2012-14): • The Hobbit Side-by-Sid...
The Lord of the Rings (1978/2001-03): • The Lord of the Rings ...

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@celtofcanaanesurix2245
@celtofcanaanesurix2245 3 жыл бұрын
7:40 it’s interesting how they both chose very different ways of showing the last ship to valinor, with the cartoon showing it as rainy and gloomy, perhaps to show the emotions of Sam, Merry and Pippin and the great unknown of Valinor to Frodo, while the movie shows a bright setting sun, showing that though it is sad Frodo and Gandalf have to leave it is good thing
@samuelroveda9706
@samuelroveda9706 3 жыл бұрын
I think the sunset in the movie is more related to the end of the age of the elves.
@BrettWMcCoy
@BrettWMcCoy 3 жыл бұрын
The book mentions that it is raining when the ship reaches Valinor, too.
@Thelaretus
@Thelaretus 2 жыл бұрын
@@BrettWMcCoy And that, from Sam's point of view, it was dark.
@spkanava
@spkanava 4 ай бұрын
1980
@baguettegott3409
@baguettegott3409 4 жыл бұрын
I'm really glad both versions decided to give Frodo pants in the Cirith Ungol scenes
@jamess3395
@jamess3395 3 жыл бұрын
This comment is why the youtube algorithm has sent me here, so it would seem.
@BronzetheGolden
@BronzetheGolden Жыл бұрын
I haven't read the books yet, planning to. But from what I gather here, Frodo Baggins' dignity was abused by Orcs💀
@Hinatachan360
@Hinatachan360 Жыл бұрын
@@BronzetheGolden I have read the books. The Orcs humiliated and tortured Frodo.
@pencilmania8622
@pencilmania8622 3 жыл бұрын
This is a pretty cool way of showing off each adaptation’s strengths. Both are extremely personal works by their respective directors and obvious labors of love.
@Helmutlozzi
@Helmutlozzi 5 жыл бұрын
I just realized how important the ending with Sam and his family is.
@ethanharmer5151
@ethanharmer5151 4 жыл бұрын
Helmut Ouzi oh dude it’s literally everything. I mean I know you probably know this. But that was literally exactly what they all fought and died for. So guys like Sam could live in peace with their families. But of course especially Sam. Someone who devoted everything he was as a person, so his beloved friend could finish the task he set out to do. I can’t imagine anyone in the world of fiction that deserved the ending more than Sam did
@JohnnyProctor9
@JohnnyProctor9 4 жыл бұрын
Still ticks me off that they left the Battle of Bywater out of BOTH versions...also in my opinion the truest ending is the one proposed in Clerks II, lol! 😆
@jessicaable5095
@jessicaable5095 4 жыл бұрын
@@JohnnyProctor9 dude, I just saw you complaining that Jackon put too many long and boring fight scenes. Make up your mind bruh 😂
@myview5840
@myview5840 3 жыл бұрын
Both films miss the revenge of white wizard on the shire. There wasn't anything to go back too. Just like when Tolkien got back from war, no jobs, massive poverty, rations, disease. Films like to finish on a happy note.
@bumpet4017
@bumpet4017 3 жыл бұрын
Too bad they left out the Scouring of the Shire. On the book you really see them changed when they came back and fought the Men and kicked out Saruman. Everything was put to order led by Merry and Pippin, and Sam planted trees and even a Mallorn (from Galadriel) in place of the party tree. Though Frodo really needed to go and find healing in the Undying Lands.
@EspritJ
@EspritJ 3 жыл бұрын
Say what you want but even 20 years past this movie is one of the best ever been made. All 3 of them.
@bobcostas6272
@bobcostas6272 3 жыл бұрын
Yes. And the old animated versions are also excellent. Perfect for kids.
@Slaveknight_gael
@Slaveknight_gael 3 жыл бұрын
40 years past. Fourty. :(
@ismailmiah1446
@ismailmiah1446 3 жыл бұрын
The best movies ever
@stephenbarringer235
@stephenbarringer235 3 жыл бұрын
Preach it, dude.
@danilovilasboas
@danilovilasboas Жыл бұрын
@@bobcostas6272 I don't think the old LOTR from 1978 is for kids. It's pretty dark. In fact, I think they should've used the same art from The Lord of The Rings on this one.
@Matihood1
@Matihood1 5 жыл бұрын
Eówyn in the Rankin/Bass adaptation sure was beautiful.
@tiaaaron3278
@tiaaaron3278 4 жыл бұрын
Anime waifu.
@georgelinford5576
@georgelinford5576 3 жыл бұрын
Like she wasn't in the Jackson version...
@rubenpartono
@rubenpartono 3 жыл бұрын
@@georgelinford5576 Very good point indeed
@kejiri3593
@kejiri3593 3 жыл бұрын
Too bad that was the only depiction they got right XD.
@kejiri3593
@kejiri3593 3 жыл бұрын
@@georgelinford5576 I think she was ok in Jackson version. But the way book described her was more of a monotone wild warrior in a sense. Shield maiden.. even though Eomer wasnt that happy when he found her there.. or from my short memory from the book. But Peter Jackson did much right in LOTR movies. Maybe not the hobbit movies but LOTR were amazing
@BlackAdder1970
@BlackAdder1970 5 жыл бұрын
Peter Jackson loved the animated shows (The Hobbit, The Lord of the rings, and The Return of the King) He used those movies as inspiration
@fadelmohammad4105
@fadelmohammad4105 5 жыл бұрын
beautiful! its soo beautiful!!!!!!!!!!!
@deirdregibbons5609
@deirdregibbons5609 5 жыл бұрын
I am glad to hear that.
@TheLifeoflink
@TheLifeoflink 5 жыл бұрын
That can explain why many scenes seem similar between the two.
@JohnnyProctor9
@JohnnyProctor9 4 жыл бұрын
It'd be nice if he had stuck to the source material like the animated versions did instead of messing it up so badly...
@bleedingmasque.6193
@bleedingmasque.6193 4 жыл бұрын
@@JohnnyProctor9 are you f*cking serious?
@BobGymlan
@BobGymlan 3 жыл бұрын
Man did this hit me hard.
@IsdudeMe
@IsdudeMe 3 жыл бұрын
It’s the music for me man, every time I hear certain motifs I get a kick in the chest
@bugrilyus
@bugrilyus 3 жыл бұрын
@@IsdudeMe me too
@pendarricrolynd7444
@pendarricrolynd7444 3 жыл бұрын
Hi, I'm Bob Gymlan
@pendarricrolynd7444
@pendarricrolynd7444 3 жыл бұрын
Love the vids Bob
@bobcostas6272
@bobcostas6272 3 жыл бұрын
IsdudeMe It makes me cry every time
@remembernavarro5344
@remembernavarro5344 6 жыл бұрын
Gollum gives me some serious Pepe vibes.
@JAGer-pl2vt
@JAGer-pl2vt 3 жыл бұрын
Same
@basildraws
@basildraws 3 жыл бұрын
I’m sure you mean Pepe gives you Gollum vibes.
@JesusFriedChrist
@JesusFriedChrist 3 жыл бұрын
Feels Precious, Man
@shermhart7617
@shermhart7617 Жыл бұрын
Makes you feel good man
@YuiFunami
@YuiFunami 6 жыл бұрын
fun fact, that studio that animated the rankin/bass lord of the rings was the precursor to studio Ghibli
@sabito2.075
@sabito2.075 3 жыл бұрын
Fun fact, every lotr movie is based on the animated ones. Knew that earlier!@
@TheSorrel
@TheSorrel 3 жыл бұрын
@@sabito2.075 Fun fact, the animated movies actually came first, Tolkien was just a contracted auther to write the novelization. And it was actually multiple writers, working under one Pen Name. J.R.R. Tolkien never existed. Neither does George R.R. Martin, the Game of Thrones writers used the "R.R." Middle name as a nod to the Lord of the Rings writers, when they adapted the Teleplay of the Show into a Song of Ice and Fire.
@atdynax
@atdynax 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah. The lord of the rings anime.
@Motownsports89
@Motownsports89 3 жыл бұрын
Fun fact, There is only one lord of the ring, only one who can bend it to its will. And he does not share power.
@jellyman123able
@jellyman123able 3 жыл бұрын
Now way! That's awesome.
@deirdregibbons5609
@deirdregibbons5609 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you , thank you , thank you for this amazing editing! I think most people think of the songs from Rankin Bass' version and forget they got a lot of the story spot on. I saw Bakshi's movie in the theatres as a kid and was angry it didn't end. It was so wonderful when this came out on network TV a year later to finish the story, and it was great for kids like me. We didn't see a lot of theatre movies in my family- expensive- so this coming out on TV made it possible to enjoy the end of the series. People have to remember this was a low budget network TV show and they had to pick up the pieces and end the story and may not have been allowed to show certain scenes and characters from the Fellowship and The Two Towers. They also got quite gritty for a network TV show- showing Frodo's whiplash wounds in the Cirith Ungol tower and having his finger bitten off by Gollum on 1980s cartoon standards was really on the edge, especially on network TV with all their censors. While I do feel the Jackson version is the better one, this version did some things better than the Jackson version. They showed Tolkein's book scene of Sam being tempted by the Ring to accept its power and how he rejected it. They also did a better showing of the scene where Sam finds Frodo in Cirith Ungol. The emotional reaction between Sam and Frodo of finding each other was really well done and better showed the scene from the book. I also like how the sailing off in to the west was more like the gray feel of the book- the Gray Havens. Their version of Sauron's eye also was really scary to me as a kid. Even today I find it really creepy, just as frightening as Jackson's version. I think because the Rankin Bass version looks more human at first and then you see after a few seconds something is not right and then it looks horrifying. Even if the songs were corny, if you listen to the words they tell the story really well, even "Where there's a whip there's a way" shows what an orc might have been feeling in the war. I know it's not in the books, but I liked the idea that Orcs might have known they were seen as disposable and they resented it. I saw this show once again after I saw the Jackson movies, and I still like it as an adult. I realize I have the perspective of seeing this when it first came out before Jackson's amazing movies, so I can understand why people who saw Jackson's movies first would find this lacking. But if you had seen them first and realized how avant garde they were for the time, this was an amazing show. Given that perspective I hope you give it a watch and enjoy it for it is and its limitations. Also it's a nice tough that the Japanese studio that animated this and the "Hobbit" for Rankin Bass eventually became Studio Ghibli.
@theonewithnoidentity3540
@theonewithnoidentity3540 3 жыл бұрын
wow very long cooment
@meistergedanken4790
@meistergedanken4790 3 жыл бұрын
@@theonewithnoidentity3540 wow very worthless comment
@maxfieldstanton5005
@maxfieldstanton5005 3 жыл бұрын
Long comment was neat. I’d like to add that the scene where the song “Who bears the ring, who wears the ring” during the Mt. Doom scene from the animation did a good job of replacing the scene from Jackson’s film where Elrond watches Izildur fail to destroy the ring.
@32kirby32
@32kirby32 3 жыл бұрын
I still remember almost every word to these songs. I just watched the movie on KZfaq and been stuck on lotr lore ever since LOL. This movie rocked
@lunatickgeo
@lunatickgeo 3 жыл бұрын
I think I've seen this only once when I was a kid because I distinctly remember the songs "When there's a whip, there's a way" and "Frodo and the Nine Fingers, and the Ring of Doom" and absolutely nothing else.
@jamescannon7935
@jamescannon7935 6 жыл бұрын
Lol minis tirith is flipping off mordor
@RenfromBespin
@RenfromBespin 3 жыл бұрын
^Minas
@dulmartovar2701
@dulmartovar2701 6 жыл бұрын
Smeagol the toad!
@goORIOLES236
@goORIOLES236 6 жыл бұрын
Dulmar Tovar The rarest Pepe of all...
@rafaelc.c.
@rafaelc.c. 5 жыл бұрын
Yes, hahaha.
@ScubzMcTalBowling
@ScubzMcTalBowling 3 жыл бұрын
Its Ducky from Land Before Time
@razvanefros411
@razvanefros411 3 жыл бұрын
it is wednesday, my hobbitses AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
@Studiosmediamilk
@Studiosmediamilk 3 жыл бұрын
They hired Kermit for the role
@theproplady
@theproplady 3 жыл бұрын
Two ways the Rankin Bass movie was superior: It had Sam's temptation by the One Ring - where he imagines himself as an all powerful gardener. It is the most adorable thing ever. Second, it had a scene where Sam and Frodo at their lowest imagine the Orcs becoming friendly. It's nice to think that the Orcs would revert to being just an ordinary race of people without the Dark Lord's influence, so it's kind of a heartwarming scene.
@ronin47-ThorstenFrank
@ronin47-ThorstenFrank 3 жыл бұрын
Ever played Elder Scrolls: Morrowind? The Orcs are the best builders there. That´s fantasy done right (without the big bad lurking).
@cjisawesome3686
@cjisawesome3686 Жыл бұрын
Oh man Rankin and Bass were Amazing, Peter Jackson 🤩🤓.
@blurryflag6466
@blurryflag6466 Жыл бұрын
the friendly orcs scene, indeed it is a very good scene
@Pan_Z
@Pan_Z 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this. It's neat comparing two interpretations of the same works. While I think Jackson's sense for cinematic framing is superior, neither representation is inherently better than the other. Both are quite charming.
@Gray.12
@Gray.12 3 жыл бұрын
All the other characters being shown before Eowyn made her even moooore attractive. It's like her animation/art style is out of place when compared to the rest haha
@nicmagtaan1132
@nicmagtaan1132 3 жыл бұрын
she looks anime
@Asertix357
@Asertix357 6 жыл бұрын
Why do I feel like I missed out on something significant by never seeing the Rankin Bass version growing up?
@geordiewalker2102
@geordiewalker2102 6 жыл бұрын
I don't know why you feel that, because it ain't that good, it's solid, and has fantastic moments, but it's not something you should feel bad about missing
@MagusMarquillin
@MagusMarquillin 5 жыл бұрын
Because you can usually love something more purely as a child - doesn't mater if it's that good. Then you'll maybe remember how as an adult. I only found out about this as a cynical teen and book purist, so I thought it was awful and embarrassing, but now I love the artistic labor, the music and moments from the book. My love for the Last Unicorn and Flight of Dragons is stronger though, because I watched those over and over as a tot.
@rikk319
@rikk319 5 жыл бұрын
When you're ten, like I was, and had no other film other than the cartoon versions...you were grateful that something was around.
@koichidignitythief7429
@koichidignitythief7429 5 жыл бұрын
You're not missing out, most of the dialogue is just the characters pointing out the obvious, usually stuff as it's happening.
@umadbroimatroll7918
@umadbroimatroll7918 5 жыл бұрын
Because you did
@terrorbilly3722
@terrorbilly3722 3 жыл бұрын
The soundtrack of Middle earth is so heavenly good, its a masterpiece. I think we would never witness this type of films again.
@3070Gordo
@3070Gordo 5 жыл бұрын
Rankin Bass did a fine for what they set out to achieve, but Peter Jackson did an extraordinary job. Jackson's LOTR are brilliant films, taken to the next level by Shore's score.
@Serai3
@Serai3 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, but what would Jackson's version have looked like if he'd made it in 1980? It's completely unfair to compare the two as far as technical issues go.
@GranMaese
@GranMaese Жыл бұрын
I, for one, prefer the Rankin/Bass version. That doesn't mean I don't like Jackson's. Heck I even like Bakshi's.
@alandavenport8975
@alandavenport8975 5 жыл бұрын
It is amazing how good the 1980 animated version is. Still watchable today, with a smooth (albeit highly cut-down) story, memorable visuals, and appropriate music. It's not meant to be anything like the Jackson version. It is its own rendition, and it's fantastic.
@JanneSala
@JanneSala 4 жыл бұрын
In many ways I prefer the animated version as a single movie, Jackson's films work wonderfully as a trilogy. I'm drawn more to the amazing soundtrack and stylized visuals of the animated version, and I love how the ring truly is its own evil entity in it!
@Serai3
@Serai3 3 жыл бұрын
I am getting really sick of people who insist Jackson's version must be the ONLY one. I'm all for more filmmakers making their own vision of the story, unconnected to PJ's. Classic stories deserve multiple different visions. That's what mythology does - it inspires many people to retell the stories in their own way.
@rikk319
@rikk319 3 жыл бұрын
Yarborough made good songs. But the orc whip disco song was a travesty.
@EnLaMatrix1
@EnLaMatrix1 5 жыл бұрын
Love the movement of the hair during the Witch King fight in the animation
@KOTEBANAROT
@KOTEBANAROT 6 жыл бұрын
man those cartoony orcs sure are cute
@trossk
@trossk 5 жыл бұрын
Thats a good song
@JohnnyProctor9
@JohnnyProctor9 4 жыл бұрын
Same basic Rankin/Bass animation model as Slythe from ThunderCats...
@JohnnyProctor9
@JohnnyProctor9 4 жыл бұрын
@@trossk - And true to the source material, the quote from the book that it's based on is "Where there's a whip, there's a will".
@kejiri3593
@kejiri3593 3 жыл бұрын
Sad that Bakshi never made Return of the King cartoon. His Lord of the ring movie made the orcs legit terrifying
@GKViddingHD
@GKViddingHD 3 жыл бұрын
I'm so emotional right now. This trilogy was the popcultural pinnacle of my youth.
@Cinemallennials
@Cinemallennials 6 жыл бұрын
One of the last and best film/adaptations Rankin/Bass made! Still have the songs stuck in my head! Especially “Frodo of the Nine Fingers” and “Where there’s a whip there’s a way”. Also one of the best adaptations of Tolkien
@NostalgiNorden
@NostalgiNorden 6 жыл бұрын
ehm no. The songs a catchy but cheesy as fuck.
@marvelfanatic9535
@marvelfanatic9535 6 жыл бұрын
Dave Lewis I agree, I love the music and this is the best adaptation of the animated movies!
@marvelfanatic9535
@marvelfanatic9535 6 жыл бұрын
Dave Lewis and also it had Biblical truth
@marvelfanatic9535
@marvelfanatic9535 5 жыл бұрын
Melkhiordarkblade shame on you
@ProfessorWhooves11
@ProfessorWhooves11 4 жыл бұрын
My most favorites are Roads Go Ever Ever On and It's So Easy Not To Try.
@WasatchWind
@WasatchWind 3 жыл бұрын
Gosh, the moment Frodo puts on the ring in the Rankin bass version 😂 "I am so happy to put this ring on!" 😁
@zorrothefox2000
@zorrothefox2000 4 жыл бұрын
This was great! I'm so glad you put together this side-by-side sequence.
@rummbolt
@rummbolt 5 жыл бұрын
That 1980 movie has been created by the same people who made "the last unicorn", right? Nearly the same style, and figure movements...
@JohnnyProctor9
@JohnnyProctor9 4 жыл бұрын
And ThunderCats...
@rikk319
@rikk319 3 жыл бұрын
They also did the Rudolph the Red Nosed Reindeer claymation film from the 60s.
@patrickdrazen3574
@patrickdrazen3574 3 жыл бұрын
Rankin-Bass farmed out their animation projects, including "The Last Unicorn" and the LotR films, to a Japanese studio called Topcraft. The director at the time was Toru Hara, but about 1982 was when Hayao Miyazaki started working on "Nausicaa of the Valley of the Wind". The next film after that ("Laputa: Castle in the Sky") was when the studio changed its name to Ghibli... and the rest is history.
@CyrusB1
@CyrusB1 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this, it's been awhile since I've seen the Rankin Bass version. Well done!
@what_memes_are_these9824
@what_memes_are_these9824 6 жыл бұрын
Why does the Witch King only have a fell beast in the animated Return of the King when the other Nazgul get horses with wings?
@theadmiralyt1574
@theadmiralyt1574 6 жыл бұрын
Sithbuster5 probably cheaper to animate.
@LowellLucasJr.
@LowellLucasJr. 6 жыл бұрын
Sithbuster5 because he Saurons favorite
@marvelfanatic9535
@marvelfanatic9535 6 жыл бұрын
Sithbuster5 because he was probably the leader of the eight Nazguls
@TheSaneHatter
@TheSaneHatter 5 жыл бұрын
Probably to make him stand out more.
@aytacmolla3932
@aytacmolla3932 5 жыл бұрын
Maybe the others decided to fight with their flying horses. Fell beast could be slower. I'm just guessing, not read the 3rd book yet.
@InnerspacePictures
@InnerspacePictures 5 жыл бұрын
Honestly? If you're going strictly by the book, story-wise the Rankin and Bass version is more faithful, in spite of the visual creative differences. For example: In the books, Frodo doesn't push Gollum into the crater of Mount Doom, Gollum is dancing victoriously upon recapturing the ring, then slips and falls in on accident. Also, Theoden did in fact die from being thrown off his horse (not very ceremonious, but it is what it is) hence when they bury his horse, the horse's epitaph reads "Faithful Servant, yet Master's Bane, here lies Snowmane."
@MK-fz6il
@MK-fz6il 4 жыл бұрын
Actually, it's "Faithful servant, yet master's bane, Lightfoot's foal, swift Snowmane".
@InnerspacePictures
@InnerspacePictures 4 жыл бұрын
@@MK-fz6il that's it! Thanks for correcting me!
@BkSonic
@BkSonic 3 жыл бұрын
no gimli , legolas or shelob , thats very faithful buddy
@diaryofagoat-lass1023
@diaryofagoat-lass1023 6 жыл бұрын
Rankin Bass knew what they were doing when they contracted Top-Craft (later Studio Ghibli) to make their animated films (including their LotR adaptations) :) Thanks so much for doing these! Nice to know people look back fondly on these films. Clearly Roddy McDowel's performance as Samwise went over well and Brother Theodore's Gollum is freaking creepy, like the hardcore drug addict he's meant to be. :)
@JohnnyProctor9
@JohnnyProctor9 4 жыл бұрын
Both Roddy McDowall and John Huston (Gandalf) were also great in the Planet of the Apes films...
@spkanava
@spkanava 4 ай бұрын
1980
@SocialAlexNYC
@SocialAlexNYC 4 жыл бұрын
Grond was scarier in the cartoon. The flying black pegasus makes it the Lol of the Rings. I saw it on tv in grade school and I remember the kids talking about how they liked it (stellar, awesome, universal thumbs ups, etc) recalling Gollum saying my precious more than anything
@AltairApprentice
@AltairApprentice 3 жыл бұрын
This is awesome. Thank you for making
@joaofarias6473
@joaofarias6473 3 жыл бұрын
This was wonderfully done! Thank you 👏
@SaRah-vr2mn
@SaRah-vr2mn 5 жыл бұрын
I loved both Eowýn parts. Epic in both versions!
@opinian1068
@opinian1068 3 жыл бұрын
Really fantastic job, man. Love this!
@xD1904
@xD1904 3 жыл бұрын
Good work, thanks for this cut!
@rkbkirin5975
@rkbkirin5975 3 жыл бұрын
Very cool comparison and great editing work!
@marinat2866
@marinat2866 6 жыл бұрын
This is amazing! Thank you, man!
@MrLordbubasith
@MrLordbubasith 3 жыл бұрын
JRR Tolkien never wanted a cartoon made of his work, he hated the idea, and the second he passed away the dumbed the cartoon version out.
@TALOSHD
@TALOSHD 6 жыл бұрын
Awesome.No words, it is brilliant. Very good job!!
@ML-HS
@ML-HS 5 жыл бұрын
I watched the cartoon first and then the movie. They both hold special place in my heart.
@timothyvandenberg2905
@timothyvandenberg2905 3 жыл бұрын
Congratulations on the beautiful work! :)
@marvelfanatic9535
@marvelfanatic9535 6 жыл бұрын
And what I love about the animated one is that it had more Biblical truth and it was actually Old English, and I love how the Warg looked and also the speech between Eówyn and The Witch King and also how Sam was briefly tempted but he resisted the Ring and also how the Voice of Sauron was drawn and also Frodo succumbed to the Ring in Orudrúin *snaps fingers* just like that, rather than staring at it for 5 seconds
@fernandoerbin6751
@fernandoerbin6751 5 жыл бұрын
"Biblical truth"? Wth? Also, I don't think you know what Old English actually sounds like (hint: you wouldn't understand it).
@maddymartin2240
@maddymartin2240 5 жыл бұрын
Mariah Raichert what do you mean it was actually Old English? Old English is incomprehensible to modern English speakers; it's basically a different language. Do you mean the dialogue sounded old timey? Also I have no clue what you mean by biblical truth
@marvelfanatic9535
@marvelfanatic9535 5 жыл бұрын
Fernando Erbin it does have Biblical truth and I do know what old English is but hey I have no time for arguing with you
@marvelfanatic9535
@marvelfanatic9535 5 жыл бұрын
Fernando Erbin I have better things
@marvelfanatic9535
@marvelfanatic9535 5 жыл бұрын
Maddy Martin Sauron is Satan, and so is the One Ring. And Aragorn is supposed to be a picture of Jesus
@Serai3
@Serai3 4 жыл бұрын
Man, that Rankin/Bass version is better than I remembered it being. I'll have to dig it up and watch it now.
@newwavepop
@newwavepop 3 жыл бұрын
in 1977 i was 5 years old and the whole world was going crazy for Star Wars, so was i. BUT my father was a big Tolkien fan and i was crazy about that too.
@ogbee9690
@ogbee9690 3 жыл бұрын
Star Wars is nothing compared to LOTR
@jesusa.quirozv.9043
@jesusa.quirozv.9043 5 жыл бұрын
Great work!!! Well done!!!
@ratlover7113
@ratlover7113 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this, Beautiful.
@brianholmes1812
@brianholmes1812 Жыл бұрын
I think the thing I find most interesting is how fantastical the Orcs and Hobbits and Elves seem in the Rankin/Bass version, while the Men seem quite grounded. there's such a contrast
@thribs
@thribs 6 жыл бұрын
Gollum is a lizard being? :)
@Strawberry92fs
@Strawberry92fs 6 жыл бұрын
Robert Hayes He wasn't very different from a hobbit once. I always saw Gollum as more of a living ghoul.
@hindsightpov4218
@hindsightpov4218 6 жыл бұрын
Robert Hayes Gollum in the books is described as being frog-like. I’m paraphrasing a bit. I’d have to check the books to see exactly what term Tolkien used, but that’s why the animators made him look the way he does in the animated film.
@alesiasredruby1511
@alesiasredruby1511 5 жыл бұрын
@@hindsightpov4218 I took "frog like" to mean he spent more time on his hands and knees then standing upright
@anshumandeshmukh780
@anshumandeshmukh780 5 жыл бұрын
Actually, yes. In novels, Gollum was a more of a lizard or frog-like creature unlike Peter Jackson's version.
@jarlbalgruuf7701
@jarlbalgruuf7701 4 жыл бұрын
Anshuman Deshmukh I’m pretty sure he’s not described as frog or lizard like. “Gollum is a slimy, skinny creature living in the middle of an underground lake underneath the Misty Mountains.” As Tolkien describes him, he is "dark as darkness, except for two big round pale eyes in his thin face" (5.12). He has spent so much time underground that his eyes have grown giant and protruding on account of all of his peering through murky tunnels.
@davidspencer9501
@davidspencer9501 Жыл бұрын
Gollum: *Falls to his death. KZfaq: * Interrupts the video for an ad about Universal's *NOPE.*
@shawndaugherty4445
@shawndaugherty4445 3 жыл бұрын
Just watch this again last night so it is fitting it was in my recommended.
@jimijzerman8172
@jimijzerman8172 6 жыл бұрын
Tnx!! I wanted to see those together 😁👍
@comradebusman3
@comradebusman3 5 жыл бұрын
I like how the cartoon kept the classic character design tolkien had in mind, but the new ones are really good too.
@flap.d.jack247
@flap.d.jack247 3 жыл бұрын
Skeleton comrade
@Thelaretus
@Thelaretus 2 жыл бұрын
They didn't LOL. The only things which are closer in the cartoon are the dialogue and some times the plot. Otherwise it's the furthest away. Visually PJ's version is closer. On ghe cartoon the lines are delivered terribly, the Witch-King sounds like skeletor, Isengard and Barad-dûr are a joke, the Balgog looks like an orc with wings (!); Aragorn, a Dúnadan, is a native American, and Boromir, another Dúnadan, is a Hun. There's no consistency or delivery whatsoever. PJs movies, except for deliberated changes, was closer, whereas the cartoon tried to be closest and failed.
@Kn1ght_Editz
@Kn1ght_Editz 4 ай бұрын
​@@Thelaretuswell, probably, for me live action/movie Return of the King 2003 did made better job portraying more emotions and depths
@mckenzie.latham91
@mckenzie.latham91 3 жыл бұрын
Hear you now, a story of good against evil An epic that has its beginning and an ending And ends at a beginning Listen as we speak of the fall of a lord of darkness And the return of a king of light Concern yourself with armies and wizards Phantoms and Emperors Cloud capped towers and bloody fields of our endless carnage Consider no less the cataclysmic transformation Of that ancient world of wonder and magic To the world we know now, Of man What mighty lord is hero enough to evoke such cosmic metamorphosis?
@danielallen3454
@danielallen3454 3 жыл бұрын
Why, no lord at all. But the littlest of fellows. Frodo the Hobbit. And his faithful squire, Samwise. Who, beginning at the ending, now approach Rivendell. The Elvish home of Elrond. There to help celebrate the 129th birthday of Frodo's aged kin. Bilbo Baggins, renowned tormentor of dragons.
@mckenzie.latham91
@mckenzie.latham91 3 жыл бұрын
@@danielallen3454 Oh man the opening narration still gives me goosebumps
@danielallen3454
@danielallen3454 3 жыл бұрын
@@mckenzie.latham91 There's much in the film that still gives me goosebumps.
@deoxys3869
@deoxys3869 2 жыл бұрын
The rankin bass version of the hobbit was able to capture the feel of the book unlike the Jackson films
@LowellLucasJr.
@LowellLucasJr. 6 жыл бұрын
Rankin Bass Gollum clearly wanted the Ring more! Great video!
@marvelfanatic9535
@marvelfanatic9535 6 жыл бұрын
And I love the music in this one
@cacadodo666
@cacadodo666 4 жыл бұрын
I wish rankin bass would come back and do do a proper 3 part lotr remake and true succesor to the mood of their Hobbit.
@JanneSala
@JanneSala 4 жыл бұрын
Aren't both Arthur Rankin and Jules Bass dead? It's a shame. And the animators went on to form Studio Ghibli, so I suppose the closest to a R/B remake would be a studio ghibli animation with a killer soundtrack.
@JohnnyProctor9
@JohnnyProctor9 4 жыл бұрын
@@JanneSala - Zombie animators, lol!!! 😆
@rikk319
@rikk319 3 жыл бұрын
@@JanneSala A full Studio Ghibli anime treatment of the Lord of the Rings could be a glorious thing.
@joeluiss
@joeluiss 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing! Simply amazing!
@rithrius5384
@rithrius5384 3 жыл бұрын
OMFG, the Rankin/Bass version of the Mouth of Sauron was hilarious. XD
@Slaveknight_gael
@Slaveknight_gael 3 жыл бұрын
If there was a Bakshi version, you'd run away crying like a child! :D
@Serai3
@Serai3 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, the animation in the Rankin/Bass was much better than I remembered it!
@editandopeliculas9726
@editandopeliculas9726 3 жыл бұрын
Nice work!
@spencergellsworth
@spencergellsworth Жыл бұрын
It's funny, but I never realized how much better the animation is in RB than the Bakshi one. Designs are consistent and the characters have real expressions on their faces and Sam looks like a burly little farmer, not some weird caricature
@rizzo-films
@rizzo-films 3 жыл бұрын
Beautifully done! Of course I cried at the end. AGAIN. fml.
@Noone-of-your-Business
@Noone-of-your-Business 3 жыл бұрын
This is weird. I never knew this existed. I have watched the Bakshi film and heard about the Hobbit series, but this here is entirely new to me.
@Raycheetah
@Raycheetah 3 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure Rankin/Bass saw an opening for Return of the King when Bakshi failed to complete the project. =^[.]^=
@arnavbhattacharjee2035
@arnavbhattacharjee2035 5 жыл бұрын
5:28 Best part for both movies, and the soundtrack really helps.
@a.f.soaress8
@a.f.soaress8 5 жыл бұрын
Sensacional, meu irmão!
@balrog13571
@balrog13571 3 жыл бұрын
0:53 Someone once made me appreciate the Minas Tirith of the 1980 version more by pointing out the difference in design. Sure Jackson made the White City look vast and impressive despite falling into decay...but the Rankin/Bass one seems to have based its architecture specifically around permanently flipping the bird to Mordor.
@amp8295
@amp8295 7 ай бұрын
And how Gondorian soldiers seem to panic a whole lot more in the 1980s version, like why TF did people give Peter Jackson shit for his portrayal, where they've actually been shown to stand their ground for a time before falling back instead of running around like headless chickens.
@spkanava
@spkanava 4 ай бұрын
1980
@josephzielinski8817
@josephzielinski8817 3 ай бұрын
Rankin-Bass Production released an animated TV movie in 1980, JRR Tolkien's Return of the King is based primarily on the first three novels.
@zachisenbletter1133
@zachisenbletter1133 4 жыл бұрын
At least theoden had a noble death instead of just falling of his horse.
@garydamberger
@garydamberger 4 жыл бұрын
Funny how much detail is renderred nearly identically, such as rock outcroppings and camera angles (0:20 for example). They must have used a significant amount of the animation for reference material and storyboarding.
@garydamberger
@garydamberger 4 жыл бұрын
I wonder how much of the other animated features parallel the Jackson films.
@JohnnyProctor9
@JohnnyProctor9 4 жыл бұрын
Jacksoff is a plagiarist and a talentless hack...
@benaoao6753
@benaoao6753 4 жыл бұрын
Johnny Proctor you’re crazy if you think there’s no talent creating cities, costumes, makeup, and photography such as PJ’s LotR
@jessicaable5095
@jessicaable5095 4 жыл бұрын
@@JohnnyProctor9 did he like...bully you in school or something? 🙄
@kyriakosxanthopoulos3468
@kyriakosxanthopoulos3468 7 ай бұрын
When Jackson's movies came out, I wasn't aware of the existence of the animated ones. Now I see that they were pretty good too. And so similar in many ways, especially the camera perspective, if I judge well fromy this small and edited comparison.
@bemasaberwyn55
@bemasaberwyn55 3 жыл бұрын
So, as much as nostalgia as people have for the animated trilogy, one undeniable fact is that the voice actors don't know how to pronounce Tolkien names
@niharsheth
@niharsheth 3 жыл бұрын
Lol true, Frodo pronounces Sauron as 'soarin'
@nicholasspecialmusic
@nicholasspecialmusic 3 жыл бұрын
It's incredible that Jackson's trilogy is quickly approaching the age that 1980 LOTR was in 2001-03. And just as incredible that in today's climate, nothing like LOTR could possibly have a chance of being filmed. Every second of film would offend and trigger someone, sending crowds of "people" into spasmic fits.
@rikk319
@rikk319 3 жыл бұрын
I don't know who you think would be triggered by Jackson's trilogy, other than some imagined stereotypes. I know people from all over the political spectrum that love the trilogy...even people who have nothing else in common other than loving the films.
@spkanava
@spkanava 4 ай бұрын
1980
@The1337Duke
@The1337Duke 3 жыл бұрын
The Jackson Witch king design is decent, but I do wish the went more the way of Rankin/Bass, with the missing head and floating crown. The Jackson design is more overtly menacing and a little over the top, but the headless crown is more mysterious and magical
@MrhBerkay
@MrhBerkay 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing
@ArchYeomans
@ArchYeomans 5 жыл бұрын
Nice work.
@ogbee9690
@ogbee9690 3 жыл бұрын
this just makes jacksons vision look more epic and brilliant
@And-ur6ol
@And-ur6ol 3 жыл бұрын
Watch Dungeon and Dragons (2000), and then realize that THAT was the standard people was used to when it came to fantasy films. And then one year later, FOTR comes out, just making every fantasy movie prior look... well... silly and cheap :D
@ogbee9690
@ogbee9690 3 жыл бұрын
@Anders Doktor you really expect me to take a comparison between fellowship of the ring and dungeons and dragons seriously?
@And-ur6ol
@And-ur6ol 3 жыл бұрын
@@ogbee9690 no. I expect you to look at dungeons and dragons, and then realize how low the bar for fantasy films were, prior to Jacksons LOTR. That is not comparing the films, that is looking at two examples, to understand how significant one of them (Jacksons) was for its time.
@ogbee9690
@ogbee9690 3 жыл бұрын
@Anders Doktor ohhh I see. Sorry I misread your comment haha (:
@davidconway6874
@davidconway6874 3 жыл бұрын
@@And-ur6ol No, Dungeons and Dragons was not the standard it was shit. Willow, which came out over a decade earlier is a better example as is Legend, Dark Crystal, Excalibur, Dragonslayer and Conan. Dungeons and Dragons should've set a new standard at least in special effects but it looked very amateurish .
@mattcat83
@mattcat83 3 жыл бұрын
As bad as the old Rankin & Bass version is, the songs were super catchy. In particular, "Where There's a Whip, There's a Way" is especially difficult to forget.
@mdjanz
@mdjanz 3 жыл бұрын
That music 🥲
@turbotj
@turbotj 4 жыл бұрын
Very Awesome!!
@MatthewSkuta
@MatthewSkuta 6 жыл бұрын
Side-by-Side series directory here: mattskuta.com/sbs/ Comment to help me choose my next side-by-side: Psycho (1960/1998) Cabin Fever (2002/2016) The Great Gatsby (1974/2013) Open Your Eyes (1997)/Vanilla Sky (2001) Romeo and Juliet (1936/1968/1996/2013) Animal Farm (1954/1999) The BFG (1989/2016) Avatar: The Last Airbender(2003)/The Last Airbender (2010) Cinderella (1950/2015) Clash of the Titans (1981/2010) Nosferatu (1922)/Nosferatu the Vampyre (1979) The Shining (1980/1997) Ghost in the Shell (1995/2017) The Jungle Books (1994/2016)
@martingenero6328
@martingenero6328 6 жыл бұрын
Jungle Book would be awesome
@malcolmmacinnis247
@malcolmmacinnis247 6 жыл бұрын
Wow im the only guy who liked it. Sad
@marvelfanatic9535
@marvelfanatic9535 6 жыл бұрын
This is incredible!!! This is my favorite one!!!
@jeffburnham6611
@jeffburnham6611 3 жыл бұрын
Funny how in the Rankin Bass version Frodo puts the One Ring on his ring finger, but in the Peter Jackson film , he puts it on his forefinger (index finger).
@TrekBeatTK
@TrekBeatTK 3 жыл бұрын
Weirdly, index finger is book accurate.
@Raycheetah
@Raycheetah 3 жыл бұрын
It may not have any bearing on LotR, but historically, rings were worn on different fingers to signify different things, for instance, a wedding ring being worn on the left ring finger in much (but not all) of the west today. I imagine hobbits had their own variations, when they bothered to wear rings at all. =^[.]^=
@danielallen3454
@danielallen3454 3 жыл бұрын
@@TrekBeatTK Not so. In the book, Sam specifically notes the third finger is missing. Which means, depending on where you counted from, it should be either the middle or ring finger of the right hand. Not the forefinger.
@cyrusrogers6887
@cyrusrogers6887 5 жыл бұрын
What is the name of the soundtrack in the beginning?
@Peter-uu2qg
@Peter-uu2qg 2 жыл бұрын
The Witch King in the Rankin/Bass version is much more accurate to Tolkien's description than the Jackson version is. Interesting.
@ladyvader2648
@ladyvader2648 3 жыл бұрын
The movies are absolute classic, that's for sure. But there is always a magical charm when it comes to the animation.
@Vikingr4Jesus5919
@Vikingr4Jesus5919 3 жыл бұрын
After seeing this, I'm convinced. Both are an masterpiece movie version of the books.
@artartcabalquinto4011
@artartcabalquinto4011 3 жыл бұрын
Still Same to me ! Pure Gold
@gusce6933
@gusce6933 5 күн бұрын
One must also consider that the animated version was made for television back in 1980; Peter Jackson's version was made for the big screen decades later with a huge budget and the special effects technology available at that point. I actually prefer the animated version, although the lack of Shelob and a few other things were flaws Mr. Jackson's version didn't have. Still, maybe Rankin-Bass caught some flack about the spiders in "The Hobbit" being too frightening (this was 1980 remember) and so decided to leave Shelob out. The animated version of Grond was certainly better, especially the way it drooled molten metal- you just KNEW the next blow was going to get the job done. The "hobbits are evolving into humans" may have been put in so small children would not think hobbits had been killed or just died off but are in a way still here.
@richardhambel648
@richardhambel648 2 жыл бұрын
The cartoon follows the book more closely but they both follow really closely (not perfectly but close)
@jonathanross149
@jonathanross149 3 жыл бұрын
Gandalf from R/B: Who causes the minutes to fall dead, adding up to no passing hour, bringing no change from day to night, as the unseen sun fails to filter into the ever-present shadows? Who is this Dark Lord who turns starless nights into sunless days? How does His piercing eye see through the ever-present darkness, seeing all-and nothing? The restless eye, in His Dark Tower, wearing a veil of protective shadows He has woven from fear. And yet He fears too. In the security of His protective realm He fears the winds of the world are turning against Him, tearing aside His veils and troubling Him, with tidings of bold spies that have passed through His fences.
@heraclitusblacking1293
@heraclitusblacking1293 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing. I don't recall that passage in the book either.
@jonathanross149
@jonathanross149 3 жыл бұрын
@@heraclitusblacking1293 It's not in the book, Romeo Muller wrote this bit of poetry just for the cartoon.
@paul_bellini
@paul_bellini 3 жыл бұрын
Grew up with those Rankin/Bass cartoons.
@hanamura310
@hanamura310 3 жыл бұрын
1980: The eye of Sauron is in the sky. 2003: The eye of Sauron is on a tower with 2 spires!
@spaceli0n
@spaceli0n 3 жыл бұрын
I've never seen the animation but it looks great.
@STLHouseLegend
@STLHouseLegend 3 жыл бұрын
The animated ROTK didn't end with Samwise and his family - just Frodo, Bilbo, Elrond and Gandalf setting sail on the white ship.
@Tom-sd2vi
@Tom-sd2vi 3 жыл бұрын
It is striking how similar these are
@YodatheHobbit
@YodatheHobbit 3 жыл бұрын
Something about this was very emottional.
@ogbee9690
@ogbee9690 3 жыл бұрын
the scenes on mount doom are extremely climatic and emotional
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