I can tell there is years of bicycling experience being spoken here with no industry marketing speak. This is refreshing!

Hi George, I agree completely with you regarding the Ritchey Logic being a go everywhere bike. Mine was riding gravel before all my local friends bought the latest gravel bikes. It is a true road bike that you can comfortably ride 30km on seal and then time on gravel before pushing the big gears 30km home again. Unfortunately my health has stopped me riding for a few months, bloody brain tumor but that is fixed and here I NZ the summer is about to start so I'll get the 61 year old body fit again and enjoy riding the logic. Thanks for the video. Regards Bill from NZ.

Have both the regular and breakaway versions. These are a serious steal (lol) for the price - 40 yrs of refinement, asymmetric triple butting, lugless, tubes inside are coated for rust, integrated headset cups forged into head tube, tire clearance to 32c. They work best for me around 25c-28c. 30c is a bit sluggish on pavement but perfect on dirt. This having been said, I'd prefer all of the above with 1" steerer, horizontal top tube and braze-on for downtube shifters - on such bikes, I'm still using 23c and they're great. More to it than ride quality, I'm climbing better when I can bend the bike. ps. there's no front hanger because the tube is super thin there.

I just ordered a 55cm frameset. I had a 1999 Bianchi Pinella Boron steel frame and loved it...but crashed hard in a race and the frame was a mess. I ordered the ti version as a replacement and raced that for 11 years...then raced a Spooky Skeletor aluminum frame for 13 years. At 52 years old comfort is now king. Also, some kid just got a bronze medal at Criterium nationals on this frame so you can't say she doesn't get up and go. I raced MTB's in the early 90's and Ritchey stuff was always good. It is hard to put into words the feel of a very good steel frame.

Sweeeeet. Can't wait to see a build video!

Nice video. Thanks for doing your part to put those great frames into homes. And double thanks for real talk on headset ride quality.

Looks awesome George.. 😊 congrats on the new new frame and fork..😃 great that the logos are almost a pink like your REV logo.. I’m also a steel, rim brake, tube, mechanical fan love mine ❤ look forward to seeing your build and first rides etc 😃😃🚴🏻🥇 just bought a Gilles Berthoud Galliber saddle to test.. Pete

Hi, I definitely agree with everything you say in the video. As I get older, I prefer comfort on a bike, and steel frames definitely deliver that. I have the same frame on order and I'm really looking forward to it. I'm going to build a Campagnolo Super Record mechanical kit on it and it will be super! Thanks for the video that convinced me to make a good choice!

Great unboxing video! Always love ur Content Master George!

So nice. I ride my Swiss Cross more than any of my other bikes. 1x11, 700x38, carbon wheels. It’s a real joy to ride anywhere.

YES! New colorway looks so sweet.

I ride a Road Logic and a Steel Some gravel bike. I recently got a good deal on a Trek Checkpoint with all the fancy stuff. I rode it almost a year then crashed it and needed to ride my Soma. Steel is where it's at. I haven't even test ridden the Trek since I got it back from the shop. I'm going to sell it any buy and Outback frameset. Great videos. Keep it up!

Frame looks great George! I also am a fan of steel, wish they would put a front der. hanger on the Ritchey. Thanks for your commitment.

I still ride my Peugeot PX10, with a modern groupset. a 1/2 million Km on it, carry my groceries on it as well ride 50 Km a day. I ride with an over 60 group, can drop anybody on the group whenever I want to, they all have carbon or aluminium frames. I just do not need to be any faster. For me the old school stell forks are the bomb for comfort.

I like being the only guy on a Ti or steel frame… it reinforces the belief I have that I’m better and smarter than everyone else. 😂 I’m joking!😜 No I’m not. 😏

George. Enjoyed. splendid - ciao!

Long live the rim brake!

Nice new color! Sure it looks even better under the sun. 😀Spring effect is really pleasant and easy to get when you step on the pedals with this frame.

Beautiful colourway, can't wait to see one built up. Never owned a Ritchey but did have a steel Genesis Singlespeed in a very similar colour. That colour will really pop out. Love the channel and the organised chaos of your workshop. I bought an SQLabs saddle based on your recommendation - very impressed.

I love the color. If I didn't just get the blue 50th Anniversary frame, I'd snap one of these up in a flash. On the 50th Anniversary frame, the claimed tire clearance was 30 mm, but there's no way one would fit on mine. The brake bridge is placed so low on the seatstays that the brake shoes are in the top of the caliper slots. I'm wondering why Ritchey didn't design it so the brake bridge was placed higher, so the brake shoes could be at the bottom of the slots. In any case, I'm riding 28 mm and just happy as a clam with the frame and ride quality, so no real complaints.

I've been waiting for this frame to release, since I couldn't find the rim version in europe. Finally, it's there 😍 live the color

Point taken George, theres always going to be a failure of some sort, Ive never seen one or heard of one on the fr. der. You see more repairs than I do. I just love a clean look without abuse on the paint. Enjoy!

I think all Ritchey frames have E.D coating ( electrophoretic deposition ) inside the tubes. Kinda like powder coating but a liquid instead of powder. Because it is liquid it coats the entire interior of the frame I guess the outside also. Should be a permanent shield against rust. My Ritchey outback is treated with ed. One problem I had when building mine up wa sthe seat post would slip so I used some carbon anti slip stuff, solved the problem. the ED coating is slick.

Hey George I really enjoyed the video. In the 80s I had a Trek 700 series Reynolds 531c steel bike. Today I’m riding an early 2000s Trek 5200 Carbon. I’m thinking about going back to steel!

I ride the ritchey outback v1...fantastic do it all bike!...carbon wheels, mix of ultegra/105 and ritchey finishing bits...recently replaced the top tube cuz damaged so the new paint job too (didn't like the original dark blue anyways)...got a custom steel rim brake road bike too...both just a dream ride...love your bikes folks!!

Hi everyone, i have posted here my experience with Ritchey Logic road but worth repeating because George is such a big fan and extremely bias . I am speaking from experience , because of this channel i purchased a Ritchey L 50th anniversary, Ultegra 11S. Hunt wide aero alloy , Ritchey bar , stem and seatpost. Continental gp5k. 28x700. Total weight 8.2kg. Very happy with the weigh, the build quality is supreme but the performance is not there. I wanted to like the bike so so bad but was disappointed, ride quality is there, climbs really well, supper stable but has no appetite for high speeds, up to 22mph average rides, upper tempo will keep up but if wanna go faster one must put down serious and consistent power, i am open to discuss this with any one who had better luck or different opinion , i have a Waterford Precession 2200 lugged frame with steel fork and is a faster bike, quicker everywhere and a lot flexier that the RL , not gonna compare with carbon bikes because there is no comparison but will compare with Caad 12. Rim , the Caad 12 runs circle around Ritchey or any other steel bike don't care who makes it, i am sorry but have to say as i have experienced it. Welcome your thoughts

Great video! To my understanding all newer Ritchey frames have frame saver applied at the factory. Love your points about weight and stiffness and how comfort is paramount when you aren’t a pro.

I have been riding Surly steel bike and never been so happy everytime i ride. Also a local in San Diego as well. I remember you sir from Nytro bike shop.

Sweet breakdown George. I subscribed. I’m getting older for sure LOL! I have a steel Ghost Grappler for bike packing. Cool that you remember your mom in that way. I lost my mom in 2021, liver cancer. Ride on bro!

saw this at my lbc a couple of weeks back. this colorway is a thing of beauty up close! my outback v2 guac might have a sibling soon!

Probably it's been commented already, but the seat tube isn't tapered for tire clearance. It's ovalized sideways for bottom bracket stifness. It's the same tube all the way, just ovalized at the bottom. So that it's stiffer against pedaling force.

Hi George from Scotland, just built up a lovely Swiss Cross with the cut out brake mount, to replace my 2004 custom 853, latter was 25mm max tyre so using 32mm (both bikes Conti 5000 / latex tubes) similar weight alloy wheels (Hunt aero v old Campag Shamals), feels great, nothing scientific done to compare performance and no plans to 😁 ps shop said frame pretreated for rust and i notice low torque spec for braze on clamp as maybe tube thinner here? Might get new carbon Shamals next year with 38-40mm for gravel, other kit is Ritchey stem, Hope bb and carbon seat post, GRX 46-30, TRP mech discs to work with my old SRAM etap red gears and shifters, 11-30, i have no issues mixing brands 😅

Agree with stiffness and comfort on frames factors. My single speed/retro bike is a cannondale 2008 CX 9 canti brakes (may go V brakes) and stiff as hell that just puts the power down for an alloy CX race frame. Excellent for the hour plus warmup/cooldown but that it is it for riding. Was an older 2x10 build for some years way back to replace a redline cx frame that given to me that was to small. After some years of hurting on longer rides had to get to another frame anyways for pit bike. But new frame became my A bike till pandemic due to the comfort for general use, not just race.

I believe the flattened seat tube at the BB junction is for lateral stiffness. I saw this design on GT steel mountain bikes in the 90's.

Cannondale used to do 25mm or so seatpost diameter

I clicked because it said rim brake. 😁 My mother passed the same way.

Great video about the new Ritchey Road Logic for rim brakes. According to you, is it possible to put a triple crankset on this frame ? For example a Stronglight 48x38x28. Thanks from Britanny in France.

Great video. Do you know if the disc version has any additional tire clearance? Thanks for all of your videos on Ritchey bikes. Super informative!

As an ex racer my road bikes never go above 25mm don’t ride gravel hate it. I did all my racing on Reynolds steel frames mostly Dutch Gazelle. towards the end of my racing I was using Alan aluminium frames especially in cyclocross

Brave choice of colors, I dig it, but might alienate some riders not into pink or burgundy. But that new price, oof! Worth it, but glad I got mine when I did. But with Waterford/Gunnar and All-City shutting down , Ritchey is pretty well positioned in this segment. I hope Soma brings back the rim brake Smoothie for people who don't want to spend $1600. I don't think there is much excitement for the disc brake version of that bike.

Nice❤❤

Hi George, great unboxing and review video! Highly appreciated, by a steel frame fan 😊. Could you give some additional sizing advice please? Which sizes are you and Jess riding with which size/inseam? I am 177 with 83,7 inseam and wondering whether 53 or 55 will be a better fit. Ritchey's table puts me (173-180) onto a 55 frame which has an even larger reach than my surly midnight special in 54. I am afraid to be too stretched out and/or only be able to run a suuper short stem 🤔

Dang it George, makes me want to get one, I love to try new things but worry about regretting my purchase, what to do

my grey frame was never that glossy. that's a great color.

YESSSSS

Awesome piece of art, is the pinky decals intended to be that color? or the white it's a bit transparent? about the treatment of the frame, as long as I know, the black ID treatment do the job, so no need to add any product inside. Cheers from Barcelona/Spain.

Thanks for this video it was just what I needed. In the near future I will be wanting a lightweight steel,do it all bike with 32mm tires and rim brakes. If you see his comment george, can you confirm the ability to use 32mm tires. If I need a different fork I would be willing to do that.

Thank you , The video was very educational👍👍

Is steeel reeal?

Oh hell yeah!!!

Thanks for a great unboxing. I have been interested for a long time in This bike. Having ridden everything the last 35+ years I want my next bike to be steel or titanium. I started on steel decades ago & these last 6 years been on Aluminum. While considering steel I think this Ritchey will be most like what I remember. While the newer Spirt steel type bikes strike me almost to be more like thin wall aluminum with its big tubes etc. I am thinking this Ritchey with its normal sized tubes will be lively like I remember steel to be in the SL days. Is this correct in your opinion? Thanks again!

Is there enough clearance for 32c tyres? If umming and arrring atm. 32 tyre clearance will tip me to make an order I think.

Awesome

Hi George..you’ve mentioned the use of RL as a gravel bike..would be the frame/fork able to handle gravel (not extreme terrain), and if so, what kind/size of tires will be preferable?

Hi George, your videos have convinced me to make a Ritchey my next do-it-all bike. I have a question. I got the opportunity to buy a previous generation frame from 2017 built up with full Ultegra and Hope RS4 wheels for 1250 EUR which I consider a great deal. I am really sold on the new frame though with the interesting colorway and the bigger tyre clearance. Having ridden it now would you suggest it's an upgrade worth spending quite some money on over your old frame? Also what are the rim brakes you would recommend as the standard Shimanos incldued in all the groupsets tend to ma out at 30mm clearance. Thanks, and love your vids, keep it going. P

Glossy because mf'n Ritchey prolly insists on major clear coats like Klein did too. I'm in the industry long time and HATE that so many companies have gone to almost like zero clear coats. It's stupid. I don't care if it adds a couple gramz. I guess I get it to not add cost to low end shite but yer 5k bikes ain't painted solid like they used to

Is the new frame for rim brakes and mechanical stops?

George... Excellent review.... The Big Question : What about the Shifters Mechanical shifters are there any modern Rim brake Mech shifters from Shimano... they do have Ultegra and duraace Discbrake Brake Shifter levers... But which groupo are you going to build this brand new 2024 Ritchey logic Rim brake frame ( if you do not get a Mechanical duraace or ultegra group) ??? Saludos from Monterrey Mexico !!! RIMbrake and Steel/Titanium Mafias over here |

Hi George, I’m curious if you had to choose: Tommasini Tecno or Ritchey Road Logic?

Hi George, great video. I'm also a rim brake fan. Can you tell me what rim brakes are you planning to use? I use Dura ace 7900 brakes, which clears 32mm tires, and I have another bike which I use mid-reach brakes ( Shimano BR-R650) which clears 35mm tires. Thanks

Hi George, your vids convinced me to make a Ritchey Road logic my next do-it-all road bike. I have the opportunity to pick up the previous frame with Ultegra and Hope RS4 wheels from 2018 for around 1200 EUR which I consider a good deal. But I am really sold on the bigger tyre clearance and the new color way. Having ridden the bike now, would you suggest the new frame is worth investing more money in? Also, what rim brakes do you recommend that could accommodate those 32-34 mm tyres and have good braking? Keep the good work going, cheers, Philipp

Why are colours now called coulorways? Nice frame.

No chainstay bridge?!? I think a regular shell is going to fatigue. It seems some steel manufacturing/design knowledge has been lost over time. Maybe the target buyer is not putting in the km to make it an issue.

Wait did you say you got it from Taiwan? What? That’s too bad. It loses its appeal when it’s not made at Ritchey’s.

Can I ask what is special about a Ritchey frame.

600 grams is way too much

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