[Eng sub] Is Nissan Skyline GT-R R33 really the worst GT-R ever made?

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6 ай бұрын

Nissan Skyline GT-R R33 (BCNR33) was launched in 1995 and discontinued in 1998. Just three years is a very short life for a car, and the cumulative sales volume is therefore much less than that of the Skyline GT-R R32. After the launch of the GT-R R33, it became famous for breaking the production car lap record at the Nurbling. It was also tested by many Japanese domestic media at the racing track and achieved better speeds than Japanese sports cars of the same level during the same period. However, since its launch, the Nissan Skyline GT-R R33 has been rated as a GT-R that has lost the essence of the R32 GT-R. Even today, Japan's JDM has become an internationally popular car model, and the R33 is not the most popular model in the GT-R series. Compared with the R32 or the R34 launched in 1999, it is not as popular in terms of price or popularity. . The reasons for the failure of the R33 GT-R are generally criticized. First, the car weighs 100kg more than the R32, and the wheelbase is much longer. However, the factory data shows that the engine (RB26) has not been changed much. Another theory is that in the incident between Keiichi Tsuchiya and his R33, when the R33 arranged by the factory and the R33 bought by Keiichi Tsuchiya were tested in the same field for lap times, his own car was actually much slower than the factory vehicle, and he was found out. The factory R33 is not completely original. Today, Sir Long and Edmond Lau test drive this very original Nissan Ares GT-R R33. The test drive route is Tai Mo Shan where they last tested the R32. It seems that the so-called failure is not that Nissan did something wrong with the R33. The truth is exactly the opposite, but why is the R33 still the least valued and underestimated generation of GT-Rs in the past?
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@REVChannelhk 6 ай бұрын

唔知呢度有無R33嘅Fans呢？😎

@jackycmy 6 ай бұрын

其實睇樣, R33都份頭都靚

@748kelvin 6 ай бұрын

最愛R33

@jayvanlg3014 6 ай бұрын

33最靚仔

@chichungho9128 6 ай бұрын

當年因為睇 Best Motoring 架 400R 鬥 F40 而中意 33，係嗰三代入面個人覺最申仕又最靚仔嘅 GTR

@sumnip5133 6 ай бұрын

我！！！最愛呢代 GTR R33❤️❤️❤️

@brianku9805 6 ай бұрын

R33並唔係失敗品，而係當年d人唔欣賞佢，點樣去形容3架GTR，R32生得似古惑仔，R34就好似健美男，而R33就同你哋一樣似暖男大叔，簡單講R33太低調毫無殺傷力，我覺得並不是壞事，R33想塑造平平無期但有戰鬥力感覺，我都認同當年經濟差，會買R33都係d有錢佬攞去飛灣岸(首都高速) 好多人成日笑R33共用平台，但大家並唔知道R34係共用房車底盤，泡沫經濟時期算好彩Nissan有錢放資源去造，如果R33真係失敗品點會出400R或者同Autech出部4門GTR呢？加上又有Nismo LM，已經可以證明係有要心去做，只不過Nissan唔識宣傳，你下睇之後leaf廣告幾on9，學下Toyota點樣打廣告啦 R32前期的確係1430kg，只不過要通過安全法規，後期R32v-spec改到1500kg，所以R33只係重咗30kg 其實R32影片都想留言話頭d最憎Nissan，又誤導人GTR推頭，寫到揸Nissan幾乎都係廢，星野好造原型就係星野一义，一樣對R33有偏見，而且頭d漫畫版啟介重話過R33係豬嘅飼料，所以千萬唔好得罪咗車手(土屋)，加上唔好出貓，就係e個原因R33沒出現喺頭d，但隔籬灣岸就有R33，加上係Nissan車嘅天下，不過都係要食鈑金大餐我有個R33小知識，當年日本R33係唯一架車裝尾翼可以超過車闊，因為日本法規判定R33尾翼係屬於車身一部分

@user-xf3kq6uu6b 6 ай бұрын

其實係土屋圭市帶頭抵制日產，並非只係抵制33。原因只有一個：就係日產由一開始誠信破產!!坤咗唔少人。土屋佢本人俾日產坤咗兩次，第一次就差啲連命都無埋。其實唔止土屋，山內一典＆重野秀一都有和應支持抵制。忘記一題：【1】喺土屋受騙案前，《Best Motoring》曾經推介過33。，並問幾個車手會唔會買。【老手】黑澤元治＆【綫皇】中谷明彦話唔買!!好明顯係俾咗預告大家話日產信唔過。【2】星野好造嘅原型係星野一義……話雖如此，但令34行得行雲流水，星野一義係做唔到(只係強在於GT賽事)，嗰啲強技係中谷明彦喺筑波賽車場做出最佳成果｛能夠似5代RS(三菱Lancer Evolution)咁做出一條理想嘅綫(包括漂移)｝。

@JerryChanD 6 ай бұрын

隔離灣岸對玩車人個種心態及現實既描述，唔係當年頭D 個類熱血青年所能理解，我都係一樣。但慢慢細味之下灣岸追既唔係邊個車手贏，而係個個車手點犧牲其他野放心機落架車。比架車跑，越過一道又一道橋上燈光拋去後面。追既係 300km/h，舞既係極限。唔 care 個幾公里山路，只求係幾十公里既高速環狀線上以最快既車尾燈劃過。為既係咩？純粹既速度追求。我諗全世界係得日本先會有咁誇張既都市及高速公路會係城市火光之下咁樣穿梭，以前又捉唔到幾多之下先有咁多日本高速傳說

@wingsingchan7524 6 ай бұрын

作為一個前33車主，我完全同意佢哋所講。其實架車今時今日揸都唔會話好落伍，如果係997年代，直情仲幾有睇頭。快揸得慢揸又得，日常實用性極高，根本就係一架好好嘅跑車，可惜係唔多人識欣賞。

@jackycmy 6 ай бұрын

可能當年俾Best Motoring 試車同市售根本2個tuning, Riding height 同 camber都唔同. 最大件事土屋圭市係最早一班車主之一, 即時拎兩架車出嚟比較. 喺日本咁講誠信嘅情況下即係自殺

@bunnybugs2174 6 ай бұрын

呃咗個呃唔起嘅人

@user-xf3kq6uu6b 6 ай бұрын

@@bunnybugs2174大把人都俾日產呃!佢哋(日產)以N1改裝車(跑車)當係原裝車咁宣傳賣車!結果造成部分車手人命傷亡!! 其實日產無乜好嘢!!好嘢只會留返俾跑職業賽嘅車隊或自己友。點會益大家啦(由此至終，日產都無當土屋圭市係自己友!第一次爭啲將土屋葬於碓氷，整唔死佢咪用呃字坤佢水)？曾經效力過日產嘅【老手】黑澤元治、【綫皇】中谷明彦＆清水和夫都心水清，知道日產幾無良啦!! 莫講話跑車，連房車、貨車都無樣好!!如果真係好，點會有人就揾機會去賣咗日產車而改買第二間廠嘅車？！

@nellyfeatd12 6 ай бұрын

當年一出真係無乜驚喜，同R32比較好似無乜進展，但望多幾眼又覺得好靚好吸引，400R一出直頭將外殼曲線欠缺嘅完美補回，唔誇張又夠型

@66778899joey 6 ай бұрын

其實一直都覺得33靚，成個感覺係好似壓低左部車咁又夠長，。 32係經典，但視覺上比例冇咁修長。 34夠曬霸氣，但車身線條真係冇33咁矮咁貼地

@bunnybugs2174 6 ай бұрын

車主呢套鈴無論offset定款都好正，十分襯呢款車。 r33個人而言有d 越睇越靚嘅感覺👍🏼

@金毛獅皇 6 ай бұрын

淨看數字 R33, 的確不如後來的GTR，但令車迷懷念是那種機械性能，直接由車手感受得到，少了很多電子操作介入，多了一種馴悍感是現代車所缺乏。❤❤

@prosushicfu9198 6 ай бұрын

當年對R33嘅認識真係來自星野好造😂但估唔到今日，我地嘅「港版神之腳」龍Sir（又稱為黃金右腳）幫咗R33平反。期待下一輯！

@alexlau1918 6 ай бұрын

星野一直都用R34，我記錯？😅

@bunnybugs2174 6 ай бұрын

@@alexlau1918當中佢有d 內心讀白戲係講佢玩gtr 嘅心路歷程

@disinque6961 6 ай бұрын

@@alexlau1918有句內心戲係講佢好鍾意32 之後33一出就換但係好唔滿意覺得係最失敗嘅作品之後即刻換返32 直至出34 年代久遠唔記得細節

@AlexWong0803 6 ай бұрын

佢係入面係渣R34,佢對白其實係禁既係GTR系列裏面我已經換左四架車禁多架喇，當R32一推出既時候我真係覺得非常之震撼，但係當我買左架大d既R33就真係非常之失望喇，依個簡直係失敗之作！於事我就將架R33賣左佢然後再換返架R32返黎,之後到第四架車，就係我依家渣緊依部GTR34喇！依架R34真係一架好出色既車，就連R32唯一既唔好處轉向不足既特性都冇埋喇，依家制動同轉向都好好，所有既問題都冇曬，跟本無其他車比得上依架車，只有唔識車既人一有錢就買benz同法拉利，雖然我自己都好有錢但係我對過d野1d興趣都冇，就算我死都要簡 GTR ar!

@prosushicfu9198 6 ай бұрын

@@AlexWong0803 師兄你真好嘢🤣成段搵返出嚟。不過佢呢段獨白確係好入腦。特別佢尾個句「只有唔識車嘅人，一有錢就買Benz法拉利」🤣對我影響至今

@748kelvin 6 ай бұрын

33最敗筆咪就係個樣唔討好，但如果你揸過會發現架車好好揸，容錯率非常之高

@user-xf3kq6uu6b 6 ай бұрын

真正敗筆唔係樣衰，而係日產以誇大宣傳為口號，並以呃字為實際行動。都令好多人造成傷亡!! 土屋圭市喺嗰次(揸人生中第一部車：Skyline4門車，喺碓氷炒車)大難不死已經算好彩。

@MMKJ 6 ай бұрын

當年長谷揸32落澳門砌，外形同性能表現，就好似攞住把寶劍咁…斬呀！斬呀！斬呀！到R33面世，好多人都打過突，33好明顯係輸個樣啦😂

@sunnyoskl128 6 ай бұрын

果然！專業人士就是專業，好車有好專業人士推介，好電車有好電專業人員介紹，各適其適，祝業務興隆、路路亨通。

@jesterdans 6 ай бұрын

剛剛睼完Misha嚮Nürburgring試一架light tuned R33 570bhp，除徂turbo lag多徂少少，基本上係一部好穩定好好飛嘅車❤

@paulchu8347 6 ай бұрын

我當年就係揸R33，其實幾好揸架。2波走天涯，年輕時新牌仔第一架車，仲記得當年朋友架車😅抛錨用過江龍揾唔到舊水電。原來喺車尾🤣，不過真係好大架車頭又長。入停車場泊L位個頭掃到對面。去燒烤場又弄花車尾。滿滿的回憶☺️

@st191rr 6 ай бұрын

當年睇車書新佈第一眼望感覺肥左好多但依家越來越鍾意R33

@ckcheang4243 6 ай бұрын

感謝兩位精彩解說！正👍🏼

@raymondchan554 6 ай бұрын

記得當年我在紅磡區的街上第一次見一架白色的R33 GTR，就是被它那4圓尾燈的車尾吸引，再看埋車頭，完全是我杯茶，可惜當時買不起，現在價錢更離地，唯有看龍Sir的片止渴😌

@hcy2925 6 ай бұрын

分析好有趣，學到嘢

@gordon_wong_113 6 ай бұрын

希望rev channel 有機會試 subaru wrx sti (2014-2019)

@jordanping4022 6 ай бұрын

下次試完R34要試埋R35前期喇🤣期待💪💪😎辛苦晒🙏💖🫶

@samwong2532 6 ай бұрын

你好。龍sir 我又學到野啦。thx

@andy6951 6 ай бұрын

希望你哋可以試S 15

@vitusyu9583 6 ай бұрын

期待試R34!

@chr2501 6 ай бұрын

多謝Rev ! 雖然我最鍾意嘅係R34, 睇完呢條片之後都鍾意埋R33😍

@oceanhoikwongwong5629 4 ай бұрын

希望試33 LM

@sll7207 6 ай бұрын

33部LM Limited超靚🤤 35就算把啦😅都唔再係嗰樣嘢，不過有片都一樣會支持😂

@1127brucelee 6 ай бұрын

見到隔離台試evolution 好想你地試下聽下龍sir見解

@itsracer7495 6 ай бұрын

其實Media 車同廠車都一定會做依D小手腳，我一個朋友以前在Mazda Motorsport 澳洲部門工作佢話for 某一D重要event 係會由日本廠已經mark定某幾部要用的production car 甚至原廠電腦都係open code 由佢地再做手腳for media celebrity race 或者真正比賽如 Targa Tasmania！最有趣是有一次BP sponsor 的event 但BP 自己無靚brake fluid 所以佢地用BP 帖紙遮住castrol SRF 來用😂

@sir167 6 ай бұрын

😂

@jetchew1 6 ай бұрын

I am from Malaysia, R33 is my dream car, looking forward your next video with R34.

@ST-vg5ni 6 ай бұрын

今集一定要like 啦, 不過我都覺得, 是個車尾冇R32 R34, 咁靚仔當三部車尾平排, 就明了, 係個氣勢

@djchuniz 6 ай бұрын

我只能夠揸公司車，試過 06 年 URVAN E25，HIACE 200，到今日揸 HIACE 300。車，做得最好，舒服，成熟，最快，最大馬力，絕對係 300 系，但揸得最開心，人車合一，最有 WOW FACTOR 既，始終係 E25。你地所講既任性，可能就係那個 WOW FACTOR 了。

@xx166888 6 ай бұрын

要計當年泡沫經濟爆破，R33被迫共用底盤，加上當年主要玩飛山，on paper 冇咁靈活，加上放送車事故造成的公關災難才是這架車「被失敗」的原因，根本這架的主場是高速公路同平均速度較高的賽道，又冇出口，得日本本土在泡沫經濟下疲弱消費力的結果

@sunnynkm 6 ай бұрын

支持試埋34,35, 有機會想睇埋Nismo 270R同400R🤤

@raylam3842 6 ай бұрын

32, 33, 兩代都揸過, 講好揸, R33贏R32, 而唔受歡迎係因為個樣好唔好揸係買咗, 揸落先知, 但真金白銀幾畀錢買, 第一個感覺就係個樣

@Jharjit 6 ай бұрын

Very nice 👍🏾 video Rev Channel 💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾+oil test more JDM Cars 🚙 🚗

@godloveyou 6 ай бұрын

有強逼症好想幫Edmond反返條安全帶😅

@REVChannelhk 6 ай бұрын

😂

@Jo-bt3xr 6 ай бұрын

我都有同感🤣

@Rossi-qg5ov 6 ай бұрын

專業評論

@kenji1633 6 ай бұрын

試晒佢！34 and 35 ! 要有高橋龍sir !

@faimai3280 6 ай бұрын

希望有400R试看

@keithleung8245 6 ай бұрын

咁啱嘅… 今期專跑紐布靈個汽車發燒友 misha charoudin 正正又係揸 GTR33😝

@winghonglai1892 6 ай бұрын

如果可以試埋400R,LM版就好了

@sunnyboyJJ 6 ай бұрын

收藏家D車，保存得好靚❤

@henryt5869 6 ай бұрын

內涵更勝外表👍🏻

@lihyangtang3439 6 ай бұрын

個人覺得是不是那個時候在數據來看100KG是一個不小的重量。外型也是當時人看覺得沒有那麼的侵略性！32，34看到骨線，線條直直的霸氣，33就圓潤點比較像披著羊皮的狼😂

@user-gb3gu4tq9w 6 ай бұрын

我鐘意啲離地嘅，400R, 但好難有得試

@jackleung6579 6 ай бұрын

當年揸32，朋友買咗架33，一齊揸出來，無論識吾識的人，比較下都係話架33吾靚，32靚好多，朋友最後揸咗3個月即換7仔。有幾多車主真的能揸到咁專業可以發掘33的優点，但揸出來成日比人話架車吾靚就肯定揸得吾開心。而想買的人，問吓朋友意見都係話架33吾夠靚，加上冇咩賽績，咁就會考慮其它。所以賣得少過32的結論肯定係32靚太多，賽績又深入車迷心中，33立刻被比下去了。

@bunnybugs2174 6 ай бұрын

可惜可惜，經過咁多年，32,34見太多，反而醞釀咗33個款果種正出嚟。認同自己架車比人話醜真係會好唔開心😂

@carmini9654 6 ай бұрын

早幾年前香港有部白色4門版

@amtravel 6 ай бұрын

算係幫33平反小弟少少心意資助2升汽油比34同榴槤😂

@edmondlau9773 6 ай бұрын

😂多謝你

@sir167 6 ай бұрын

謝謝你！😊❤

@mr2cqql 6 ай бұрын

R33 is the best looking out of all the GT-R, especially the 400R and LM.

@user-bs1yz1in9b 6 ай бұрын

終於可以睇油車啦😂

@lifeeps1071 6 ай бұрын

睇rev channel 除左學到車既知識外，四字成語都學到好多！❤

@sir167 6 ай бұрын

😅

@lifeeps1071 6 ай бұрын

@@sir167 你地講完既字，我真係有去google睇下係點解架xX

@VisuartStudio 6 ай бұрын

如果要試R35，就一定要一部早期一部近期黎比較，產期超過十年，馬力差超過百匹，一定好大分別🎉

@REVChannelhk 6 ай бұрын

問題係要搵原裝，難度極高

@user-xf3kq6uu6b 6 ай бұрын

可惜有部35係呢世都無機會試。嗰架就係當時葬於2001、2002年左右修改環保法例嘅35!!行RB26，6波車(棍波)，個相(車款外形)比而家所認識嘅35更加凶!!當時造咗兩架，而家擺咗喺東扇島嗰間唔對外開放嘅展館(工場之一)。

@tonelau2178 6 ай бұрын

反而好有興趣睇Rev試R35，無論擺係GT-R呢個系列、定日本跑車的類別，R35作為一架販售週期近二十年的跑車，係世界範圍內都係絕無僅有的。雖然到咗現在，R35啲貨尾都係為改而改搞啲無所謂的細節，不過睇翻係2007年果下，呢代GT-R的面世絕對係空前絕後的。

@KennethYiuHK626 6 ай бұрын

後面放到野對外國人係好重要 ,每出去都要買好多野返去,又或者出去一兩日都唔返屋企就要帶好多野出去!

@moonchung 6 ай бұрын

江湖傳聞唔係土屋佢地試完即刻賣車咩 🤣 不過當年為咗成本要共用其他車既底盤同佢地個expectation 有大落差都冇計

@bunnybugs2174 6 ай бұрын

聽聞都係，兩架賣哂之後數臭佢😂

@penguinsai 6 ай бұрын

梗係要試埋部34啦！龍sir扮星野似晒樣😂

@guangliu9438 6 ай бұрын

Edmond話美國車需要後邊需要空間載人。因為美國的保險機構認為有後座的車#就算是兩門的，都是家庭用車，每個月的保險費比無後座的兩門車低好多。

@chunsingso2533 6 ай бұрын

學到嘢！！！

@johnchai8546 6 ай бұрын

支持Edmond 龙Sir 我要买GTR佬

@faifai4773 6 ай бұрын

😃👏🏻👏🏻繼續👍🏻👍🏻

@wingwah1205 6 ай бұрын

想睇R34 同R35 最後4代同堂出一條平就very good 喇😊

@choopeng6408 6 ай бұрын

呢台R33嘅鈴系咪enkei？睇落有d似，搭配得又幾好睇

@DomCmoto 6 ай бұрын

試R35 想睇嘅係你地會點樣解構架車，支持試埋

@kennyl389 6 ай бұрын

R33 fans報到，我老豆以前就係開過R33(無turbo 兩公升四門)

@AlexWong0803 6 ай бұрын

Project d 神之腳星野好做都渣過R33🤣佢個內心戲對白如下係GTR系列裏面我已經換左四架車禁多架喇，當R32一推出既時候我真係覺得非常之震撼，但係當我買左架大d既R33就真係非常之失望喇，依個簡直係失敗之作！於事我就將架R33賣左佢然後再換返架R32返黎,之後到第四架車，就係我依家渣緊依部GTR34喇！依架R34真係一架好出色既車，就連R32唯一既唔好處轉向不足既特性都冇埋喇，依家制動同轉向都好好，所有既問題都冇曬，跟本無其他車比得上依架車，只有唔識車既人一有錢就買benz同法拉利，雖然我自己都好有錢但係我對過d野1d興趣都冇，就算我死都要簡 GTR ar!

@chaser0108 6 ай бұрын

好其待你地試 R34 同 R35

@networkip6618 6 ай бұрын

會唔會試埋初代嘅gtr，r34 同埋r35?

@tonyspeedhiro 6 ай бұрын

我係迷skyline迷，R33係好正，我鐘意左skyline都係因為試左R33，大大架但又好易揸，仲要係坐得好舒服，連後座都好好坐…

@tobychan5902 6 ай бұрын

好想你地試mrs 講講呢部最平mr

@moomoonel 6 ай бұрын

雖然冇咗skyline個名但始終都係GTR 試埋R35唔該😉

@fungericdante5046 6 ай бұрын

細個成日都幻想有部深紫色R33再NISMO＋ MINE’S 改裝 😄

@REVChannelhk 6 ай бұрын

Midnight Purple🤟🏻

@wilsonfu1282 6 ай бұрын

R33好靚喎❤，個人覺得靚過32 34。

@peterwu4747 6 ай бұрын

R33個樣好靚，當年玩遙控車都用佢😂

@nkwong2995 6 ай бұрын

對我來說，此車太大了。我最多接受WRX 或露荀之類的呎碼。

@pigpig71114 6 ай бұрын

有在大山試過原裝33，同當時熱門嘅2千4驅街霸比，佢喺柔順啲。同埋原裝鈴offset勁入，好快會出現側滑。要爽快啲揸，改出啲套鈴喺必需。另外32點解成功，因為在全世界A組賽場上八面威風。33點解失敗！33推出時A組例取消，只能在日本國內賽吓低級別的N組賽事。宣傳效果大跌！

@benzlsuzubaru6225 6 ай бұрын

其實一啲都唔失敗，反而係去咗一個更高層次嘅江湖鬥「LM」，其中22號車以第十名完成，成積嚟講係非常好。

@wrxsti22b 6 ай бұрын

This wheel the offset seems quite aggressive... BBS LM ?

@benfok9529 6 ай бұрын

後面坐兩個唔識阿之阿jor既真係笑咗，不過我係覺得R33 個尾係靚過32

@tsekarho4949 6 ай бұрын

當年街機剛出灣岸1，32,33,34，諗都無諗即刻出33

@qooooo 6 ай бұрын

今天的汽車快到識飛了。不過，當今嘅車已經不可能再好似片中當年嘅汽車充滿咁多話題，R32/33如是，嗰架古董寶馬如是，都係當年好嘢。今日啲車，一個字講完：悶😂

@freemanmiracle7975 6 ай бұрын

Yes, test drive R35 please!

@Iron_Martin 6 ай бұрын

試埋啦！

@bluz330 6 ай бұрын

想買！

@123456chosen 6 ай бұрын

Evo 10又係被世人批評既1部Evo 但係唔係真係咁差😢？可唔可以出片講解下🥲

@kevinlee8775 6 ай бұрын

情況有啲似Starlat EP82 同 EP91咁

@samyui9126 6 ай бұрын

想睇 34同35既Vspec

@Hoikaun 6 ай бұрын

個人感覺。樣既問題。唔阿惡😅

@ericcheung9115 6 ай бұрын

R33 失敗原理係参加《Hot Version》节目日產特登搞部改裝左33講自己係原廠........

@user-bs1yz1in9b 6 ай бұрын

祝你地三位身體健康，越做越紅，越來越靚仔

@sir167 6 ай бұрын

謝謝！❤

@yeehanglo8147 6 ай бұрын

終於等到，不過真係太分別，32前者，不論戰積同改裝，實在太強，到34而超越佢，其實佢好陰公😢

@kennyl389 6 ай бұрын

改裝33比32強太多啦。至於戰績32同33根本唔同組別。32鬥嘅係末期group.a同JTCC，唯一對佢有競爭力係serria rs cosworth，而R33鬥嘅係GT1同JGTC對手有porsche 911 GT2 evo、ferrari F40 LM、EB110 IMSA、Mclaren F1 GTR。而且佢係主要戰場利曼24小時同JGTC中只係輸過俾F1 GTR同F1 GTR longtail。