+Amagansett1680 Hyundai and Kia have come a long way.

+Fringe Colours I think it was more of a complement for a review well done (high quality). Subtlety does not translate well on the internet :)

+Amagansett1680 Time to come out of 2006 and join us. Kia is not the same company nowadays and haven't been for awhile.

+mozillagenesis Even then the 2001-2005 Hyundai Sonatas are really really solid. The V6 models have aluminum blocks and heads with FORGED steel rods, pistons, and crankshaft. The I4s are direct Mitubishi clones of the famous 4G63 engine, just without a turbo, usually. I've seen turbo Elantras with it.

I have a 2012 Kia Optima SX since new, 4 years and a couple of months of owning it and not a single problem. Still rides like day 1 with no rattles or wear, just very few rock chips on the lower bumper but not a single scratch. Our Toyotas have much more wear and tear than the Optima and have not been as reliable. Kia is making cars now like Toyota used to in its prime years. It is amazing how much better they have gotten in the last decade

I have a 2012 Optima SX-t and it is really fun to drive. This is coming from someone who drove Subaru's for 20 years ( including my SVX).

The 2021 model will be even better.

Fusion, Optima and Mazda 6 take the cake in the midsized category. Only issue with the Optima is the 2.4 and 2.0 Theta engines. They've gotten much more reliable, but still have carbon build problems, and finicky rod bearings. That being said, my best friend has a 15 Optima and it has been flawless for 140K of abuse, neglect, dirt roads. Cosmetically it's not the best, but the mechanics of the car are holding up fine for the amount of neglect the car is subjected to. All the suspension parts are tight as the day it was built even though it's been on rutted dirt roads more than paved. The Mazda 6 is more reliable and the Fusion and Kia are equally reliable (Not the 1.5/1.6EB Fusion)

How many miles on the odo? Still running smooth? I’m considering a 2016 EX

How many miles?

@@Albert-xl3nxI just traded it in for a Honda passport. It was the worst car I ever owned lol. Constant issues, oil burning, blown gaskets and just awful

Glad you appreciate it, and see so much value in it. Hope to keep it this way.

+savagegeese Love the music at the beginning.

+Justin Reid Spread out the good news.

Totally agree. I think you guys are the best (among many excellent) car review channels. Again, I really like how you examine the underside and engine bay of each car. Keep up the good work!!

Sharviin Sasasey what song

Laya Project - Hailasa (Eastern Sprit remix) A Tamil language song from India 👍🏼

and heard the seats are more comfortable than the sx leather seats.

Their chief designer is Peter Schreyer. Peter used to work at audi, where he designed amongst other things, the TT and the R8.

Vencarter how is it now?

@@gawdstockton483 i got her when she had 12,000 miles and now almost 4 years, a handful of oil and filter changes +50,000 miles later? I'm still in love with this car. Only thing I've had to replace the tires, I enjoy long road trips that end up with a bit of driving on gravel, snow, ect. Not to mention the one SavageGeese reviewed is an SX while mine is the SXL (fully loaded af). I've gone to Vegas, Utah, Arizona, and up and down California, a fantastic "GT" type of car. Only thing missing is AWD, massage seats and a bit more power. I wish they made this car into a similar body type like the stinger or just bring the wagon version from EU over to the states but I can only dream for now.

@@Vencarter What are your thoughts about the speed? I'm looking at a 2019 and just wondering if they accelerate pretty fast, I've never had one.

@@julienhill6127 speed is pretty good compared to others in 2016. After the all seasons wore out I switched it to a bit more performance tire and it actually made a difference in acceleration and handling. The key to beating almost everyone that isn’t tuned is sport mode, brake hold and hover over the pedal then press quickly but not stomp on the gas and feel 0-60 in about 5.4 sec with performance tires.

@@julienhill6127 don’t be afraid to test drive it then walk away from the dealership so you can make a level headed decision

Do it I just got a cpo 16 sxl for the seats and 360 camera and the little red L badge just looks so good I can't stop driving it

Monsieur Africain that's nice, but you can get 2016 Optima SXT with under 30k miles for $22k right now, I guess those are 24mo. leasing cars, but I think it's a good deal, it's at least $12k less than a brand new.

JC4 then you miss out on the upgraded headlights and foglights. But you are right, you can.

JC4 BTW got mine for $29k

Monsieur Africain you got a good deal, what state is that?

JC4, true, California. MSRP was $34,600. I bought it during the holiday in late November.

+iBJanky Honda/Acura is a 2016 project.

Hi, do you have any knowledge about the reliability of the engine (turbo orNA)? I have tried to do some research but some people say the GDI is not good after ~60k miles (knocks, oil build up in the cylinders). Any help would be much appreciated. Thank you.

Thanks for comment, Optima - Mazda6 - Accord V6 - Sonata - Camry. Try them be curious on your opinion.

GH4 with Nocticron and other lens also use host of ND etc. Sony Action cams and Panasonics.

Cameron Myrick you think the sx was worth it compared to the other models ?

rahemma smith how much did it cost you?

Just bought a brand new 2016 SXL today, cost me $34000 after tax.

+Silviu Bîtă Car does not have adaptive suspension. Sport mode just sharpens throttle maps, trans logic and steering effort.

Hi, do you have any knowledge about the reliability of the 4 cylinders? I have tried to do some research but some people say the GDI is not good after ~60k miles (knocks, oil build up in the cylinders). Any help would be much appreciated. Thank you.

Hi, do you have any knowledge about the reliability of the engine (turbo or na)?I have tried to do some research but some people say the GDI is not good after ~60k miles (knocks, oil build up in the cylinders). Any help would be much appreciated. Thank you.

I was thinking kia can go more towards sport division direction hyundai luxury

+tochjo772 That's exactly what I was thinking as well because most people already have that mentally about the two.

+Alberto Lemus Well, Hyundai and Kia are part of the same company, so a luxury Kia division would kind of be redundant.

Alberto Lemus I've heard kia also will take apart for their lux division. they are going full speed ahead with no stoppin. "the korean style"

Do you remember the inarguably poorly made Kia Sephia from the late 90's to the early 2000's? I just remember how everybody that owned them had NOTHING good to say about them, and their reliability was non-existent.

Norman Rivera that's not good for negative equity

Huss Ali Well I end it up.keeping my 2015 Optima...I'm not changing it after all...They want to charge me 700 monthly for the 2016 when I'm confortably paying 348 for my 2015 and is a good car...

Norman Rivera I currently own a 2014 Optima sxl I just hit 50,000 miles it’s well kept I was trying to figure out should I buy the Cadenza or stinger I want to go up a level I realized that I need a softer ride since I live in Missouri which has crappy roads

Agreed, end of the year I'll have a download for all the tracks.

+Tristan Han Because it's in my subscriptions. A mid-sized family sedan doesn't have to be boring. I used to own an M5. That was exciting, lol. Sad that you equate mid-sized family sedan to boring generic power plants. I guess you must not be all that imaginative. So why are you responding to my comments?

Hi, do you have any knowledge about the reliability of the engine (turbo or NA)? I have tried to do some research but some people say the GDI is not good after ~60k miles (knocks, oil build up in the cylinders). Any help would be much appreciated. Thank you.

@@hl6859 Well I can’t say anything about my specific car as I sold it before 40,000 miles. But I never had any problems. I did 2 oil changes, a battery change, and changed the air filters at the suggested time and never had to think about anything mechanical wise. However my father in law has a 2013 Optima that has basically the same engine but higher output and he’s well over 100,000 miles and doing all the scheduled maintenance. The only problems he has had was the paint peeling and something in the folding mirror wiring going nuts but everything engine and transmission wise works great. I think the goose has a fine print series on GDI engines and said that so long as you use a special cleaner every x amount miles you should avoid that build up problem but I could be misremembering. All in all, I think it’s a good engine, turbo or NA, and should be pretty reliable should you take care of it.

@@hl6859 Just know, like I soon will, as I'm getting a 2016 Kia Optima SXL, that these cars are known for engine failure. There was a class action lawsuit against Hyundai/Kia about 'faulty engines' and they had to recall like a million cars because of it. If you install the KSDS, it will give your engine a lifetime warranty. You have to be on point with your maintenance schedules, and to avoid headache in the future, only go to Kia to get those done or else they can more than likely deny any serious issue that may arise, should you wish to be compensated for it.

Yup this is the video that made me buy my 2018 Kia Optima. I watched it 3 years and fell in love with the car. Haven’t had an issue with my Optima since I got it ❤

Thanks, I drove the car, very impressed but never reviewed it.

Is the elantra sport faster then ur sonata?