John Hogan and Chris Northover from Superbike Magazine take a closer look at getting into racing without breaking your budget.
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@motormadness99758 жыл бұрын
You guys literally predicted the Yamaha r3 and cbr300r excelent!
@xorbe28 жыл бұрын
As soon as the bikes start up, they blast the sound track with music. As soon as the music stops, the bike engines stop. -__-
@Daniel-vu4qu8 жыл бұрын
There's a good reason why... they sound like shit.
@MigSv928 жыл бұрын
ya i own the rc 390 and it sounds like shit (1 cylinder bike) unless you get the akrapovich it still sounds awful but it's something ..
@shreveswat10 жыл бұрын
Interested to hear the lap times of both riders on both bikes. Please
@orangelion039 жыл бұрын
Getting our own RC 390 Cup here in the US...part of the MotoAmerica program. Really looking forward to seeing them at the WSBK weekend at Laguna next July.
@jakej49259 жыл бұрын
I wonder how the purchasing process will be for the RC 390 race bikes. When MotoAmerica announced the inception of the KTM cup class, I couldn't help but be skeptical of their availability. I'm too young to really know, but I'm going to guess it will be a lot like how Yamaha sold the TZ250s (that is, how I have heard the TZs were sold); you gotta have a name and a badass check book to even be considered.
@hikermikem89 жыл бұрын
Yeah for me its the kwak 300 all day long.. price, rideability and reliability.. Fare enough the KTM may be a good trackday weapon, but in the real world the ninja is an awesome alrounder for uk younger riders.. I may be a tad biased owning a ninja 250r and 300 I have test rided the ktm rc390 and for me it lacked rev range on the road.. but on the track its good very good, but not much in it. If on a budget go for the ninja300 or a restricted classic 400.. we all have to learn road and trackcraft from somewhere 80)
@tzartrex8 жыл бұрын
Really stumped for choice with the A2 now man. Struggling to pick between the zx3r, yzfr3, cbr500r and rc390. D: No idea what to do, how is the ninja insurance wise? Think ill have to ring up and shop around to find the best deal i guess :)
@hikermikem88 жыл бұрын
Tzartrex Yes it is confuseing nowadays regarding Which Bike to purchase whilst on an A2 licience.now that there is far more to choose from... For me personally I bought the ninja300 after owning several bigger cc bikes ie Suzuki gsxr600, triumph triple 675, pegaso 650, and my first big bike was a Kawasaki er5 I have also owned for a while a Honda cbf600 but that was too big and heavy for me been a shorty.. As for insurance, I couldn't comment as everyone is different and will get differing quotes from all over the place.. Regarding your choice of bike, I would say, go and test ride the models you are looking into and choose the one that you like the most regarding the insurance and running costs.. if you buy a bike just on the overall cost, you will proberbly soon get fedup with the bike you have chosen, esspecialy if you see the bike you really wanted out and about.. The Yamaha, Kawasaki and Hondas are more likely to be real word more reliable.. The good thing about the Honda cbr500 ( even though the initial cost is more at first ),.. once you have passed your A test you can have the Honda 500 deristricted if you wish, instead of stepping up from a 300 or 390 and buying another bike. The only reason why I stick with a ninja300 is I have had this for nearly 3 years now and it still gives me a big grin factor when out riding covering an average 300 or so miles a day on B roads A roads town and country.. Often riding with mates on much bigger cc bikes. But where as they have too top up there fuel tanks 2-3 times during our days riding I often only have too fill up once from the start and maybe a quick top up at the end of the day depending on how many miles and how hard ive been riding, plus I have more fun in the tight twisties 8)) Theres also a new kid on the block to have a look at, the Mv Augusta 320.. I haven't seen any around at the dealers yet for a test ride, but if its something different you want, the Mv is it.. but reliability is unknown.. If its a sporty ride and looks you want.. Yes go for either the Kawasaki 300 or the Yamaha yzf3 both bikes ride outstanindly well on the road, parts will be cheaper and as I'm shaw the insurance will be as well.. The KTM, Yes it looks the part, has a higher top speed, but for me the gearing and with it been a single and not a double like the Kwak, you will be up and down the gearbox even more than on the other 300s,.. But it would make for a brilliant trackday bike as its designed for racing from the get go.. If you have the funds and is quite tall, go for the Honda 500 as it wont be a slow coach, a good bike to learn on and once you've passed your test you can have it deristricted to gain more bhp and be able to keep up with bigger cc bikes on the open roads.. Like I say, I have had the ninja 300 for a while now, it has almost 50.000 on the clock as I'm never off it, it has done several trackdays also and not once has it let me down, it is that reliable and such fun to own.. Good luck with the bike decision making I urge you to test ride all the ones you mentioned and find the one you really like and suits you best. Ridesafe..
@tzartrex8 жыл бұрын
michael upton Fantastic response mate. Ive been on the 125 for a few years now, A2 is booked for late july really excited. The ninja is looking like a really good option. Will deffo go have a test ride on a few bikes before i decide, then itll be a matter of saving up as much as possible :) Thanks again for the help :D
@hikermikem88 жыл бұрын
Tzartrex Cool, I was lucky, as I'm an old git lols 46 and was able to do the direct access, which I took over a week to complete ie hazard perception, and theory test on day one.. then out on an ER5 for 3 days training and test day on the ER5 on the Friday which luckily I passed, I then bought the ER5 of my instructor because I couldn't wait to start my biking years 8)) Good Luck with your A2 hope it all goes well and once passed you can book several test rides to find the one, and that's when your biking really starts ie learning and enjoying a bigger cc machine.. Saying that 125s are great fun to ride, but yes they can be frustrating on open A roads if you need to overtake slow traffic quickly and safely.. But on country B roads and in towns they are great... I have seen secondhand Ninja300,s with low milage and full history go for between 2-3.000 still, even 3 year old versions like mine. If you purchase secondhand, make sure its been definatley looked after, has service history and HPI clear.. Mine is regualary serviced by myself or my local Kawasaki dealer and at almost 50.000 miles on the clock, she is still as quick and torquey as when I got it new.. Just keep an eye on the rear swing arm and shock as corrosion is a problem, mine is showing its age now and even though I clean my bike as often as I can, riding it through winter when road salt is on the roads will affect some parts of the Kawasaki.. most kawasakis suffer from this but they are getting better... Not sure on the long term reliablitiy issues with the yam 300 or the ktm.. but Most modern bikes are quite bullet proof nowadays.. It just depends on how well you look after the bike, ie serviveing, cleaning and general maintenance... 8)) Again, good luck with your A2 and hopefully you will be out and about on your new bike before this winter comes along..
@vivek13938 жыл бұрын
You mentioned "If on a budget" but here in India the Kawi is expensive by INR. 126000 than the KTM. That is almost 1900 USD. Would you still pick the Ninja if it was that much more expensive?
@Phantomdirt9 жыл бұрын
According to KTM's own tech sheet, the rc390 is 43hp. Apart from that great review. EDIT: this may be a 2015 upgrade, the 2015 also has upside down forks which suggests there's been a few changes...
@motoarch9 жыл бұрын
the cup bike is de-tuned by 6-7hp under the street model
@Phantomdirt9 жыл бұрын
William Kessinger Ahh that explains it, thank you.
@ianloughney95709 жыл бұрын
Is that at the crank or at the rubber? Because thats an important distinction.
@electric_boogaloo4969 жыл бұрын
Comparing stock for stock RC390 is much lighter and and makes more, and is closer to the race build. So, rc390 FTW.
@AlienInCloset79 жыл бұрын
it really depends on the track you are riding in...if its more of a spread out- long straight circuit then ninja will certainly won because of its 2cylinder and taller gearing ratios...but when its a more technical circuit with short fast corners ktm will take the leads because of greater pickup and shorter ratios of gears..
@TheShahrum19859 жыл бұрын
skip video to 3.35
@BikeWorldTVshow9 жыл бұрын
Why King Rom????
@TheShahrum19859 жыл бұрын
to skip the chit chat, straight away about the KTM and ninja
@Kopfschuss4519 жыл бұрын
Good on the younger reviewer for wearing a neck brace. Really wish more people would give those Leatt race or street braces a try.
@asamaddar39 жыл бұрын
OOH I hate that hairstyle....
@manghuhf6 жыл бұрын
Medusa
@yichenliu79419 жыл бұрын
1:25 what did they do to the ninja to make it look sportier? The stock bike is like the same as a naked but just with fairings which doesn't look as sporty as the rc390 but this one looks very sporty
@Soysaucemoto9 жыл бұрын
Shaun White's long lost British brother?
@OCanadah8 жыл бұрын
LOL
@Blahde10 жыл бұрын
This video is great. Cheers guys. Love it
@BikeWorldTVshow10 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@CruzinKrispy9 жыл бұрын
one of these may be in my future hard to say though theres allot of high value bikes coming out like the fz09, duc scramblers
@Shadow_Reyu10 жыл бұрын
Great video guys. Nice work with the trails and information.
@Zeldi4ka9 жыл бұрын
I would like to see some old Kawasaki Ninja ZX-4R or Suzuki Bandit 400 VS KTM 390. Because for these years price is getting higher only,not the performance IMO.
@phuntshodrukpa63258 жыл бұрын
actually wat is da difference between twin cylinder 300cc and 300cc ktm
@r6mt099 жыл бұрын
Where can I get that neon yellow helmet?
@cjrperformancecameronjones10977 жыл бұрын
Where can I get that windscreen for the ninja 300? Been looking everywhere
@mikaelkanerva15914 жыл бұрын
I'd like to know aswell!
@cjrperformancecameronjones10974 жыл бұрын
Mikael Kanerva “skid Marx” or something along that line I believe was the name of the company. Took me a long time to track down
@mikaelkanerva15914 жыл бұрын
@@cjrperformancecameronjones1097 Thanks mate 👍🏼
@ZoneTelevision9 жыл бұрын
Beginners should watch this review.
@paddyoclown7 жыл бұрын
ok id like to just say a massive thumbs up for. including sponsored in your head headline
@RanjMN10 жыл бұрын
Bike World Great video!!..please do share their respective lap times and also of a 600..just for a reference :) thank you!
@jerryldavis18239 жыл бұрын
KTM is great but I think its front head light would create a lot of drag and that's why it losses on drag race with duke 390 coz it has same engine and more weight
@ydkoll79759 жыл бұрын
I have to give this video a thumbs down for three reasons: A- never record a video without proper noise cancelation. The motorcycles in the background made it very annoying and difficult to hear what they were saying. B- They could have made this video in 4 minutes instead of 10. I lost interest at some point. C You guys didn't talk about how these bikes would perform off the track. Aftrer all these bikes are geared for beginners. How would they perform on city streets?
@BikeWorldTVshow9 жыл бұрын
Hi, I think you missed the point. The feature was about getting into racing and these bikes could be a good budget option. We will be doing full road reviews of both bikes very soon. Sorry about the sound, it's not easy to find somewhere suitable at a track like Brands Hatch...
@a4569879 жыл бұрын
These were the race versions
@74BONGz9 жыл бұрын
+Bike World ...the sound is fine. 👍
@Real_MisterSir8 жыл бұрын
+Bike World I really liked the video, but in that case you should perhaps rewrite the title as it is rather misleading. I clicked this video expecting an actual Ninja 300 vs KTM RC390 review with all that includes. I didn't expect track modified CUP versions to be raced, and the vid being about entry level racing. All in all great vid and concept, but you are leading on an unintended audience :)
@vvoinick9 жыл бұрын
Totally different in malaysia. We can get full license when you were 16 just like me
@furyrc72019 жыл бұрын
The KTM looks awesome but the ninja is the best looker in my opinion, are the lightless fairings custom made?
@musashidanmcgrath9 жыл бұрын
It's track bodywork. No lights at the track.
@furyrc72019 жыл бұрын
musashidanmcgrath I figured, cheers.
@WoodomainJeremyBroun9 жыл бұрын
Good video
@leonoff899 жыл бұрын
what's up with the class moto licenses in the uk, U.S doesn't have that, you could start on a liter bike if you want, not smart, but you can
@Blindingsun9 жыл бұрын
it's so dipshits who just passed their test don't get on a litre bike and plough themselves into a tree at 200mph
@XJ550CAFE9 жыл бұрын
Here in the states, the majority rules, majority of new riders are middle age men, going through midlife crisis. If they had to start off with anything smaller than a 1200 CC Harley, they'd probly park their over price SUV on a set of railway tracks and wait for the next train. That is just my opinion. I think starting out on a learner bike is a great idea.
@jonathantringle81729 жыл бұрын
Here in Canada licensing for a liter bike(or 600 sportbike) is 1200$/year and you can only ride from May to October. If you are under 25 insurance is going to be another 1200$ or more. Makes it almost impossible for a 18-20year old to spend over 200$/month on licensing+insurance. So if you want to start racing, these small bikes are very nice because owning a ''regular'' bike for the street and a small track bike for the track can end up cheaper than a single R6 or R1...
@leonoff899 жыл бұрын
wow that's crazy i'd be running from the law riding without insurance in that case
@jonathantringle81729 жыл бұрын
Yeah...But if you get caught you loose your motorcycle license AND your car license. When I was 20 I was quoted 2200$/year to ensure a used Yamaha R1...I guess the prices are similar in the UK, France, etc. In usa owning a bike is insanely cheap, especially if you live in the south where you use it year long...
@MrWalidsafie9 жыл бұрын
what kind of windscreen of that ninja?anybody know?
@tHeO145739 жыл бұрын
Walid Iskandar Safie Zero gravity racing makes some like that - e.g. SR-series, Corsa...
@bil2kil3 жыл бұрын
Skidmarx uk
@leviloomes3169 жыл бұрын
what track you at
@BikeWorldTVshow9 жыл бұрын
It was at Brands Hatch!
@conceptsmart7 жыл бұрын
Cheers! Nice review
@MeplusYellow9 жыл бұрын
"Don't wanna sound like a douche bag." Lol. Ace video cheers. What's that neck brace Chris has on??
@BsharaFaddoul8 жыл бұрын
0:14 a fart
@johonanandrewgomes75938 жыл бұрын
lol
@Vingadorcarioca10 жыл бұрын
Tenho uma ninja 250 e vou trocar por uma 300, gostei do vídeo... Vlw... Aço na Alma Óleo nas Veias...
@cvsvlogs30905 жыл бұрын
Ninja spot ctyty Rc 390 super spot Nice super spot KTM RC 390
@Orenchis10 жыл бұрын
This was great !
@bestplaceforbikers----bike69769 жыл бұрын
very cool
@perryvanengen47938 жыл бұрын
they are not factory stock,still a biter,no thrill!
@speladoom50210 жыл бұрын
life is orange :)
@Jackorias10 жыл бұрын
Nice vid! I could see you were wanting to say the new licensing is shit! believe me, as a 19 year old (almost!) I think so too!
@udaysingh35459 жыл бұрын
slightly Inconclusive
@thorsmitersaw10519 жыл бұрын
licensing problems?
@HeinzLammerding088 жыл бұрын
rc390 looks more cool and its a fun on track
@joncrich3 жыл бұрын
because of this i got.the rc 390 hahaha now using it and loving it
@connormcquade61149 жыл бұрын
man I cant even afford a 125 yz how the hell am I suppost to buy that
@raulhero32679 жыл бұрын
+Connor McQuade watch review of scooty
@lesliemari78719 жыл бұрын
i want these bikes not the shitty stock bikes
@kuelee93826 жыл бұрын
Can't understand what you guys are saying.
@vinayjoearmstrong8 жыл бұрын
im 22 yo..i have duke200....cnt affrd 390 fml...:(
@shaneweightman7 жыл бұрын
To much rattle in the first 3 mins for me
@MrAlfasul7 жыл бұрын
storm the ambassy-----------------------------------------------------------------------------chris northover he is nuts
@zoomjoo5 жыл бұрын
no offense, but you don't ride like a fast group rider. need to work on your bp.
@Alex_WorldWideWeb9 жыл бұрын
in india rc is 44 bhp
@kainhall9 жыл бұрын
HAHA my fucking 1974 kawasaki g5 makes 11 at 7,500 RPM (close to 25 at 13000) 40 years and 200CC and you only got less than 20 HP over me. HAHA
@JETZcorp9 жыл бұрын
The G5 is a great bike! If you want to get more performance out of that thing, it is ridiculously easy to see some pretty insane power from the little rotary-valve Kawasakis. The G31M "Baby Green Streak" had an engine very similar to yours and made 18.5 horespower, at a time when no one in the world knew a damn thing about two-stroke porting. Get a shop to massage the transfer ports, make some calculated cuts to the rotary disc, maybe add a rear boost port, and compliment it with a custom expansion chamber, and you'd have a G5 that would shit all over a modern YZF-R125. I'd love to give that kind of treatment to my '67 Kawasaki C2 someday. As it is, it's got a really basic expansion chamber that was made about the time when Rome defeated Carthage, but it still transformed the bike into an aggressive and peppy little ass-kicker. Stock piston and rings, too! The small-bore rotary-valve Kawasakis are bullet-proof!
@kainhall9 жыл бұрын
Stuart Hardy Cull im cool because i ride a bigger bike. fucking stop it..... i dont see how i was bragging either.... you even put bragging into quotes yourself...i was making a comment on how all this "amazing modern technology" hasnt done much besides marketing.... must have went over your head. how is bragging about what ever bike you ride any different? i bet theirs a bigger bike than yours..... i know theirs cars which have more displacement and power... and are quicker... and not sure how my dick plays into this....even if i was bragging... how does having a small bike equal a small dick? a better thing to say would be that its small, but acts bigger than it is. i guess.... IDK i stopped making dick and fart jokes a few years ago.... im 20 years old and 180 pounds... 6 foot 5. the bike is too small for me I KNOW....but that doesnt change the fact that im getting more power per unit of displacement than modern day bikes. (that concept might be to complex for your dense skull) and.... guess what. another rider who thinks he is hot shit because he rides the bigger bike.... i bet you also pick up girls with low self esteem? do you also cock off a lot? oh wiat... nvm.... ya you do.
@trulydualcharts9 жыл бұрын
***** Woah! Sorry mate, just joking! we don't know each other so please don't take it personally. Genuinely sorry to have upset you but I thought it was funny at the time! Just YT comment humour.
@kainhall9 жыл бұрын
Stuart Hardy Cull joking my ass.... but thanks. lets just fucking ride dude....
@_TrueDesire_9 жыл бұрын
***** new bikes gets great milage though :) when 1L costs around 1.6 Euro , every ml of gas counts :p well for me anyways. old school still got its charm and noice/sound but the handling etc is often improved on newer bikes. still love all sorts though :)
@Itzak158 жыл бұрын
edgy
@a4569879 жыл бұрын
Lol, I don't wanna sound like a douchebag but...
@a4569879 жыл бұрын
Lol, I can't remember where I was going with that comment
@paulovarillas16155 жыл бұрын
boriiiinnnnnngggg!!!!
@leonoff899 жыл бұрын
ktm seems better quality, kawa is cheap
@yankeewa1nla9 жыл бұрын
awful video, too much talking!
@phuntshodrukpa63258 жыл бұрын
actually wat is da difference between twin cylinder 300cc and 300cc ktm