Review: Maschine+ Plus vs Akai MPC vs i7 MacBook Pro: 400+ questions answered...

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loopop

loopop

Күн бұрын

Keep asking questions in the comment section! See below for follow ups. If you like the insights in this video, there's plenty more in my ever-expanding book of electronic music ideas, tips and tricks here:
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Check prices here (affiliate links help the channel - thanks!):
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Here's my video on morphing MIDI instruments using the Lock feature:
► • How to create and morp...
Here's my comparison between Akai's MPC One, Live and Live II
► • Did Akai fix the "cons...
For those asking about WaveSkimmer:
► www.modwheel.co.nz/waveskimmer
For those asking how to get Reaktor ensembles on MAS+:
1. Make sure you set the Meta Info to Instrument as I show in the video!
2. At the top menu: File - Save As to save the ensemble somewhere
3. Move the .ENS file to the SD Card in this path: Native Instruments - Maschine 2 - Sounds
For those asking how to create and then get Kontakt NKI's on MAS+:
1. Open up Kontakt, and make a new instrument
2. Add your samples in the Mapping Editor
3. Open up to Kontakt Browser and go to the Automation tab
4. Select Host Automation (not the MIDI tab!)
5. Grab any of the available slots and drag them onto a parameter you want to control
6. Make sure you save the NKI files as "Patch + Samples"
7. Copy the .NKI file and samples folder to the SD Card in this path: Native Instruments - Maschine 2 - Sounds. I saved the .NKI in the Sounds folder, and the folder with the samples goes in the same Sounds folder (so, basically the samples live in a sub folder, inside the sounds folder)
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ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS I GOT ASKED AFTER MAKING THE VIDEO:
- The internal sample rate is 44.1khz/24 bit, with a sample buffer of 128. I matched the settings on my computer, but increasing the buffer size didn't really improve its performance
- Stress testing multiple audio tracks got to 27 simultaneous tracks compared to 80 on my Mac
- I'm told you can connect a USB ethernet adapter if you're anti-wifi
TIMELINE:
0:00 Intro
0:40 Plus vs MK3
4:20 Plus vs 2.7ghz i7
5:50 CPU: Full songs
12:35 CPU: Samples
13:55 CPU: Drums
15:20 CPU: Plugins
22:35 Plugin params
23:40 Kontakt, Reaktor
25:10 Kontakt .NKI
31:05 Reaktor .ENS
32:25 Plus studio hub
33:50 Ext audio interfaces
35:35 MIDI templates
36:05 Locks 4 ext gear
37:40 PLUS VS MPC
39:00 MPC pros
42:00 Plus pros
48:25 Workflow
52:00 Arranger clips
52:50 Misc differences
53:50 Outro jam
Want to email me personally?
► Ziv (at) loopopmusic.com
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@RedMeansRecording
@RedMeansRecording 3 жыл бұрын
This is unbelievably helpful. Thanks for your hard work on this video!
@loopop
@loopop 3 жыл бұрын
🙌🏻🙏🏻
@lelluc
@lelluc 3 жыл бұрын
Hello Jeremy 👋
@SirBoopBoop
@SirBoopBoop 3 жыл бұрын
OMG it's "Rer Merns Rerording!"
@Paul......
@Paul...... 3 жыл бұрын
Did u buy the m+?
@datpiff8550
@datpiff8550 3 жыл бұрын
My sentiments
@DopamineOverload
@DopamineOverload 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing video as always. Longtime Maschine user, here. When Maschine+ was announced, it was the catalyst that made me take a chance on an MPC One (open-box) for only $540. I absolutely love it. Just as much as my Maschine MK3. If anyone's on the fence about these two-- go the MK3 route, or the MPC One. Why the MK3? 3rd party plugin support (absolutely none on Maschine+), and all the storage/RAM you need (depending on your computer). I'm using Maschine on a 10-year old quad-core Dell with an SSD system drive, Windows 7, and 8gb ram (initially, now 32gb) and I had no issues whatsoever even with 8gb. It's stable, it runs everything, and it's the same thing. And, if your laptop has decent battery, your MK3 runs on USB power. Close the lid, and it's a Maschine+ for less than half the price. Re: battery-- the Krisdonia battery bank works great with the MPC One, and gives you 6-8 hours of runtime. If you have $1400 to spend, get both, because they're both awesome.
@camreese1444
@camreese1444 3 жыл бұрын
This is review is simply phenomenal and answers all the questions I had about the unit.
@Knight2Bee
@Knight2Bee 3 жыл бұрын
So far this has been the best demonstration MK III+ that I seen. Thanks for getting into the guts of the Maschine + and the comparison to other products.
@bastiendocquois2104
@bastiendocquois2104 3 жыл бұрын
The effort put into this review and its quality are phenomenal, great job!
@echo_opera
@echo_opera 3 жыл бұрын
Wow. I literally had this dream last night and look at what you did here. Thanks for this. 🙏🏼
@aloharay
@aloharay 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Loopop, as always you put a lot of hard work into teaching the masses so they can make an educated purchase decision.
@Jegkedermigmega
@Jegkedermigmega 3 жыл бұрын
Completely unrelated to this video: just wanted to give a 'thank you' for the Patreon book. I feel like this is the bible of synthesis. So well-written and with loads of ideas, that I hadn't thought of. I feel you've sparked creativity back into my workflow :) Thanks!
@loopop
@loopop 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks very much both for the comment and your support - totally my pleasure!
@dwilliams4142
@dwilliams4142 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely excellent breakdown. Thanks always loopop.
@zooblestyx
@zooblestyx 3 жыл бұрын
As a fan of the Yamaha QY series machines, I'm encouraged to see that with Maschine+, Deluge, 1010 BlackBox, etc, there seems to be a trend building toward what I guess could be termed the DAW box, as the next step up from the groovebox.
@cedrickivits
@cedrickivits 2 жыл бұрын
Damn, this video explained so much and gave such a clear representation of the pro’s and cons. Thanks a lot man! You’re a great instructor!
@trevorbrown8737
@trevorbrown8737 3 жыл бұрын
Top video as usual been looking forwards to this and didn’t disappoint!! Thanks
@DavidPeck
@DavidPeck 3 жыл бұрын
I think the Maschine+ is good news for MPC users! The competition should motivate Akai to improve their platform and continue to add features.
@DavidPeck
@DavidPeck 3 жыл бұрын
@Catholic Truth Sure, but the Maschine+ is a portable device. It's much more fair to compare it to the MPC One or Live/Live II in terms of hardware specs. The MPC X hardware is definitely in it's own class.
@DJDigitalJosh
@DJDigitalJosh 3 жыл бұрын
@Catholic Truth Nope! The Casio XW-PD1 TrackFormer was a standalone sampler/groovebox with a speaker made back in 2015.... It did suck, but it's "truly standalone" as well.
@drizzl8899
@drizzl8899 3 жыл бұрын
If I was a Maschine user it wouldn't make much sense to me to spend money on this. Thats a mk3 and a laptop or mk3 and komplete 13.
@jonathansoko1085
@jonathansoko1085 3 жыл бұрын
At the one's price point, it is obliterating N.I right now tho
@jacobarmstrong5308
@jacobarmstrong5308 3 жыл бұрын
@@drizzl8899 imo that's its biggest downfall. pay double the price of an MK3 just to go computerless?
@danieljung2810
@danieljung2810 2 жыл бұрын
This needs to be updated. The firmware update and price of the MPC One vs. Machine + IMHO makes the MPC One amazing value.
@ImpactSpace
@ImpactSpace Жыл бұрын
Now even more since 2.11 (or 3.2 on the Force) NOTHING beats those beasts right now.
@K33HOLDA83
@K33HOLDA83 3 жыл бұрын
Always a pleasure to hear your reviews
@leslawrenson
@leslawrenson 3 жыл бұрын
I've just bought the MPC One, and for the money it is fantastic. As regards the lack of plug-ins, that is no big deal. The onboard synth is good enough (on the road) to lay down a track, and when you get back into the studio you can hook up your favourite synth and use the midi data to play it back into an audio track. Or, auto sample your favourite synth, and then use the midi data to play that into a midi track. The best thing about the MPC One is is portability and its touchscreen. That puts it head and shoulders above anything else on the market, for me.
@olafmolenveld4985
@olafmolenveld4985 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome and very extensive review/comparison, thanks a bunch!
@avace917
@avace917 3 жыл бұрын
In comparing the MPC Live 2 to the Maschine +, another difference in regards to using either as a centerpiece is the Live has extra MIDI ins, outs and audio outs. I think the deciding factor is whether or not you're using whichever device mostly on its own or along with other hardware. I've used MPCs since 1992, so I always had the intention of using it with several synths at once. In my personal studio and on records I produced, I used 4. Plus I'm planning on using a modular synthesizer in the future.
@rydx5445
@rydx5445 3 жыл бұрын
Thank You for Answering our questions!!! Awesome review!!! Thanks
@evoprox1
@evoprox1 6 ай бұрын
Outstanding video here, second to none, incredibly helpful even if you made up your mind or have invested into one or both systems already. Thanks for putting this up.
@chrisperpina6326
@chrisperpina6326 3 жыл бұрын
Another great vid, Helping the community!
@edgi55
@edgi55 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comparision and this very informative video
@jandostalik6290
@jandostalik6290 3 жыл бұрын
This is so great and useful review, unbelievable, thanks a lot!
@jamesmuprhy
@jamesmuprhy 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like the main factor with your setup is gonna be whether you use plug ins or you have analog equipment. Personally the best part of the mpc one is the multiple tracks, sequences and as a general midi master device. I use a lot of analog gear and never found my grove on a traditional daw, using the mpc like a live looper and sampler as well as a midi sequencer is pretty great. There are definitely clock issues but I've found that for myself just having analog equipment the mpc one is a game changer with 2.8 and the portability puts that track to edit generally anywhere as opposed to a pc. Don't get me wrong the machine is a better value if you're looking for just the best range, having a one time price access to all the NI plug in suite with a portable daw is worth it alone but as a lame ass analog purist, I'd have to point out the compatibility of midi ready analog devices that shines on the one to the others out there.
@sisterzzbro4215
@sisterzzbro4215 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your videos. These are the best for me to understand good. Good job Sir! 🧐 Machine Plus I have never realized ...
@stvcolwill
@stvcolwill Жыл бұрын
my first video from you.... EXCELLENT JOB on all!!!!!! thanks so much!!
@feedingthehydra7134
@feedingthehydra7134 3 жыл бұрын
Would love to see this revisited with the new update on the mpc 😁😁
@DoctorNemmo
@DoctorNemmo 3 жыл бұрын
Well, this is a lovely way to start a sunday. Thanks.
@parkaybaby
@parkaybaby 3 жыл бұрын
I have a home studio which I'm still using Maschine MK2 with Logic but I also just purchased the Maschine Plus for when I want to go on my patio, when I'm on lunch break at work, whenever I'm flying out of town or taking road trips it works plus I'm not a sample type guy but the MPC live 2 is something I definitely like and would of bought if I sample music either way the way you utilize your art/talent you cant go wrong with either.... much love everybody keep creating no matter what you have blessings good luck 2021!!! Blessings!!!
@ZAYAZOfficial
@ZAYAZOfficial 3 жыл бұрын
Your videos are always incredible man! Love it
@hugoclubs9676
@hugoclubs9676 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for this detailed review loopop. And thank you all the good people you support this channel on Patreon 👍
@duartedasilva5949
@duartedasilva5949 3 жыл бұрын
"That's what I do for science."👍
@frankogio5715
@frankogio5715 3 жыл бұрын
got the Akai Force , and not interested of buying Machine, but was watching your review with the pleasure ! thanks for your work !
@crybo
@crybo 3 жыл бұрын
Finally! Been waiting for this.
@davidseaman7485
@davidseaman7485 3 жыл бұрын
I remember when the mpc touch and live came out people were screaming about how pointless the touch screen was and how they didn't need it. With the maschine everyone seems to love touch screens all of a sudden.
@tgoodjenkins
@tgoodjenkins 3 жыл бұрын
MPC heads shit on everything. Seen people knocking the 4GB of ram but their MPC has half that.
@5etz3r
@5etz3r 3 жыл бұрын
I'm firmly in that camp and not budging at all. Hate touch screens, and anything that involves cell phone integration.
@BIGPUN4EVER
@BIGPUN4EVER 3 жыл бұрын
Good point!
@txbrown_
@txbrown_ 3 жыл бұрын
Maschine does not have touch screen :/
@BIGPUN4EVER
@BIGPUN4EVER 3 жыл бұрын
@@txbrown_ we know, that was the whole point of his comment 😂
@tony113000
@tony113000 3 жыл бұрын
Again thanks for a great video - very informative
@danielclifton3319
@danielclifton3319 3 жыл бұрын
Yes! Nothing like some good competition, to get Akai back in the game!
@PlayEngage
@PlayEngage 3 жыл бұрын
NI can really compete with Akai if there will be a Maschine standalone that has touch screen, expandable internal storage (for SSD), internal speakers, and of course internal battery. I feel that the current Maschine+ is not enough to call it a standalone, because it is the price of two Maschine MK3 or two MPC One.
@nissieln
@nissieln 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the informative review ^__^ This is great!
@D-One
@D-One 3 жыл бұрын
Best reviewer in the game! 👊🏽
@Shakshuka69
@Shakshuka69 3 жыл бұрын
I think I've watched this video like 50 times now. So much good info. Ended up going with Maschine Mk3 because I'll be working at my desk near my laptop anyways and the UI on a laptop is always going to be better than a small screen with convoluted menus and functions.
@Re-bl5sr
@Re-bl5sr 2 жыл бұрын
Think I'll be going with the Mk3 too ne honest. I already use the S61 Mk2 which was one of the best purchases I ever made so I think I'll stick with NI for my Drum Machine in the new year.
@jfphotoandlife8287
@jfphotoandlife8287 2 жыл бұрын
@@Re-bl5sr Me too 👍🏻
@nathanjmansfield9969
@nathanjmansfield9969 2 жыл бұрын
Makes so much sense to go for the MK3. When the +PLUS doesn't offer any benefits worth considering. Still needs a power supply haha
@ploytuell1332
@ploytuell1332 3 жыл бұрын
very informative review. thank you!
@UniqueThaPoet
@UniqueThaPoet 3 жыл бұрын
MPC one for sure. Easiest and most straight forward way to make beats.
@eddmtz4028
@eddmtz4028 3 жыл бұрын
Your opinión Made me make a good decision , Mpc one easier
@UniqueThaPoet
@UniqueThaPoet 3 жыл бұрын
@@eddmtz4028 glad I could help.
@MattiasHolmgren
@MattiasHolmgren 3 жыл бұрын
Great comparison Loopop! I wish we could swap the CPU of the Maschine+ to boost it (like any other computer) if we are unhappy with the native CPU. Maybe they will add variations of the Maschine+ in the future!? Great video!
@effex75
@effex75 3 жыл бұрын
simply the best reviews you can get
@kalubandali2241
@kalubandali2241 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your service :)
@DopamineOverload
@DopamineOverload 3 жыл бұрын
Loopop strikes again! Thanks again for yet another perfect video.
@jeremyellismusic
@jeremyellismusic 3 жыл бұрын
Kind music people, if you are like me and watching your 11th Maschine + video, I urge you to utilize the 1.25 or 1.5 speed setting. Actually, most of youtube is better this way. It's youtube's built in warp setting. Have a nice day.
@loopop
@loopop 3 жыл бұрын
I’d be offended if I didn’t edit this in 2x
@LaFamiliasEmpire
@LaFamiliasEmpire 16 күн бұрын
Lifesaver 😂 I’m on my 13th by the way 😢
@PoliPopo
@PoliPopo 3 жыл бұрын
I just might have to pick one of these up 💯
@cyxman3940
@cyxman3940 3 жыл бұрын
Tanks, simply the best music hardware channel.
@PlayEngage
@PlayEngage 3 жыл бұрын
I love this review! Maschine+ have tons of synths, MPC has now 4 plugins including the latest DrumSynth from version 2.9 firmware. I can make full songs with just basic electric piano, analog modeling synth, and drum kits...I am overwhelemed with the plenty of plugins from Komplete or any expansions from both. I came from Maschine MK3 then sold it to switch to the MPC Live. I realized that Maschine+ is double the price of a Maschine MK3 but without internal battery, touch screen, and internal speakers (compared to the MPC Live II) which I found to be less practical to spend 1,200 to 1,400 dollars. I think a valid reason to get a Maschine+ if you do not have a decent computer to produce music or if your current computer keeps crashing when using a DAW or music softwares, but then the MPC One is still the practical choice. :)
@PHeMoX
@PHeMoX 2 жыл бұрын
The issue is you can get a decent enough laptop + a Maschine MK3 for less money in total. Especially if you don't care about getting a brandnew MK3. Or even better, get a Mikro MK2 used and a great laptop and you'd get even more for your money's worth. Even worse, Maschine+ DOES NOT support all available plug-ins, meaning you're SOL in some cases which is just 100% unacceptable for a $1200-1400 device.
@josejuanvelardesevil8379
@josejuanvelardesevil8379 2 жыл бұрын
This will be solved with new actulizacions is all ready on the table of ni so no worry's about it I own a Maschine plus and have a MacBook pro i7 and I have Maschine MK3 also but I decided to upgrade because the standalone mode and that is a beast Maschine the materials are really cool and I don't care about touchscreens because if is broken you're fucked up have to pay a lot for the screen plus the installation so I'm very comfortable with the plus i recommended highly and works with link with Traktor and Ableton or logic Pro X flawlessly the link option is great I recommend Maschine Plus over Akai MPC one but far away I had both and I sell the Akai i like the workflow of Ni Maschine and I have integrated the jam with the plus and I use them in control or standalone mode and works great is a perfect combo for the ones that are owners of the Jam or if you find one at good price because they are going up the prices instead of go down NI is making the Homework very good and comes a lot of super actualitations for Maschine and Maschine plus the flagship Equipment of Ni with the Sl49 MK2 that is beautiful controller and keyboard
@JeffCfreeradiorevolution
@JeffCfreeradiorevolution 3 жыл бұрын
Great job LP! Looks very promising... i think they really need to fix the interface so that we can see the macros clearly on their instruments. Now it’s your turn... Ableton....
@Dikkedimi
@Dikkedimi 3 жыл бұрын
only thing I'm missing is sampling quality comparison! maybe you could make a small vid about that. MPC's tend to sound nicer with hot signals, so it'd be interesting to see how machine+ stacks up
@truman5838
@truman5838 3 жыл бұрын
I think stand alone is a nice option and sets it apart from other devices. It's an absolute game changer. I'm excited to see how they develop and improve upon stand alone devices. A maschine , a headset , and im good to go to the park or beach. A beautiful setting can inspire beautiful music.
@amfimoll9428
@amfimoll9428 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing video. Thanks a lot!
@zeneixi
@zeneixi 3 жыл бұрын
Great review.
@rabbitfist
@rabbitfist 3 жыл бұрын
Being able to load my own custom Reaktor ensembles imakes the difference between wanting this or not for me. This is the first I’ve heard of it. Everything else I saw or read said it wasn’t supported so I had just about written the Maschine + off. NI really should let Reaktor and Kontakt owners know. Thanks for another great video that gets into the important details!
@BIGPUN4EVER
@BIGPUN4EVER 3 жыл бұрын
So Kontakt and Reaktor are compatible?
@soulscientific2685
@soulscientific2685 3 жыл бұрын
Even tho I'm happy with my mpc live classic its nice to see how the mashine+ works!! Thanks i love your vidz there always crazy informative.
@loopop
@loopop 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Bottom line is both are a ton of fun :)
@tonybattlethebeatmaker447
@tonybattlethebeatmaker447 2 жыл бұрын
Biggest gripe for me between the two is the MK3 has a “mic in gain” and the + has an “input gain” knob. Which owners know with the MK3 to get a decent sample recording from the inputs you needed an extra Audio I/O to get a good level unless you were comfortable using the normalize feature every time you sample external sources which I found very limiting for me vs. the MPC lineup which all units have a gain stage knob for sampling. That and the limited 4 GB of Ram in the + vs. a laptop with up to 16GB attached to the MK3.
@BoBeats
@BoBeats 3 жыл бұрын
Great work as always!
@loopop
@loopop 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks - much appreciated!
@leesimz_
@leesimz_ 3 жыл бұрын
Totally agree with the Mk+ GUI's ... surely we should have envelopes on the screens instead of mini plugin gui's???? What about an assignable lfo in effects section and waveform gui's? Like a midi clip import folder on the SD Card.. Keep up the great work @ loopop.... Much appreciated dude ❤️
@0e0
@0e0 3 жыл бұрын
It would be really fun if you could run special version of Traktor on this with the two screens
@fitagoraz
@fitagoraz 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine
@weyoun6535
@weyoun6535 3 жыл бұрын
On the MPC if you hold down the Q-LINK page button it shows all of the current assignments on the screen for all 4 banks.
@loopop
@loopop 3 жыл бұрын
Indeed, it's still quite slow compared to just seeing the parameters on screen
@0e0
@0e0 3 жыл бұрын
if i could load my own reaktor ENS (which are very large and involved) in these boxes...I would buy two right now.
@ildarkinildarkin
@ildarkinildarkin 3 жыл бұрын
You are 100% right on Q-links. I think the problem is that there are so many screens, pages and parameters where they could be useful, that designers have just put it on a user shoulders to arrange (program) them. And programming them is headache for me to tell the truth. BTW if anyone has useful tips on programming Q-links the better way, please let me know.
@AnalogueRecall
@AnalogueRecall 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for a great video comparison. I've never got on with Machine sadly. I'm wondering about the MPC now. Touch screen with keyboard would make a massive difference to me. For example, moving a knob for each character is like wading through mud when you want to get things done.
@nucentury08
@nucentury08 3 жыл бұрын
Just got my Plus Friday Love it I’ve owned every Maschine made💪🏾🚀🚀🚀 I also Own the MPC Live II but the NI workflow is 🔥 and 80% of the features at the making of this video now work or you can do.
@gabrielegelfofx
@gabrielegelfofx 3 жыл бұрын
Great review. Soon or later Maschine Plus with 8 cores cpu, single touchscreen display, 16GB ram, 1TB ssd, tb4, 192Khz.
@IDONTPLAYENT
@IDONTPLAYENT 3 жыл бұрын
$3k
@user-lo2hw7vw9f
@user-lo2hw7vw9f 3 жыл бұрын
Maschine+ vs MPC Live 2
@JDVVV378
@JDVVV378 3 жыл бұрын
Great videos for gear, for me the best on youtube and verry helpfull.
@FRST2012
@FRST2012 3 жыл бұрын
As an Mpc One owner, the Maschine+ certainly seems to have a better workflow and freedom with clips. Quite often I get to a point on the MPC one and think ‘I should have just written this in FL Studio or Ableton’, even though I prefer the interaction of using hardware.
@GregDixson
@GregDixson 3 жыл бұрын
eek! i'm considering an mpc one and that's exactly what is concerning me, the arranger / song mode is something which is there in every DAW, yet in hardware it seems a rare luxury :-s
@stevenicholsonproducer
@stevenicholsonproducer 2 жыл бұрын
Really great Video, specially with Maschine + now around £850 in price!
@LukeLine
@LukeLine 3 жыл бұрын
Loved this massive comparison... I'll stick with my MPC but excited for more updates and future standalone features between AKAI and Maschine!!
@jonsilvermann2473
@jonsilvermann2473 3 жыл бұрын
Renaming Samples ect. via pads would be nice. Just a graphic on the dsiplay where letters are and you can rename everything like with keyboard...
@dracul74
@dracul74 3 жыл бұрын
I bought the Mpc Live (original version) when it came out. I didn’t anticipate how big of an impact not being tethered to the PC would make (for me) creatively. I still use it a few days a week. It’s great to see more standalone products. Good job Maschine. The real value to me is the plugins vs what MPC offers.
@Artek604
@Artek604 3 жыл бұрын
Give Akai few days ;)
@ploytuell1332
@ploytuell1332 3 жыл бұрын
i had this experience when i bought the octatrack. extreme creativity boost!
@boimesa8190
@boimesa8190 3 жыл бұрын
@@Artek604 make that years
@12tribes61
@12tribes61 3 жыл бұрын
Pc laptops kill creativity i agree
@Artek604
@Artek604 3 жыл бұрын
@@boimesa8190 All points to days, actually. 1 in best case scenario :)
@strangestrains.
@strangestrains. 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks loopop!
@DoctorNemmo
@DoctorNemmo 3 жыл бұрын
33:48 The superpower we all wish we had.
@therealjackfisher
@therealjackfisher 3 жыл бұрын
Naaah.. I dont want it.
@hubertoef6878
@hubertoef6878 3 жыл бұрын
Hi @Loopop. Thanks for the insightful video. You mention that the fact that Maschine requires are files in a single folder is a "temporary issue". I am wondering whether there has been any progress here. Is there a convenient way to simply browse through different folder levels? I have recently purchased an MPC live II as my standalone device, and part of the reason was that Maschine is really unfriendly when it comes to browsing user files, unless you go through the trouble of labelling everything in the desktop software, which I have always considered a big hassle when using my Maschine MK1 and MK3.
@DopamineOverload
@DopamineOverload 3 жыл бұрын
Loopop, do you think you could go over in detail using Clips with the upcoming Maschine 2.12? We're all dying to know! Thanks!
@loopop
@loopop 3 жыл бұрын
I can't guarantee it soon, they're going to update it further soon and if I cover it I want to whole thing...
@maceoplex
@maceoplex 3 жыл бұрын
Would make more sense a comparison between Maschine+ vs Akai Force.
@mickvdzwan
@mickvdzwan 2 жыл бұрын
What a lot of knowledge here :) great video. What would be the nr1 standalone ( no other equipement planned, period ) be? After years of making no music ( techno ) at all, I would love to buy a device, sit down on the couch and fidle around!
@djbowlz2128
@djbowlz2128 3 жыл бұрын
You can search by projects, sounds, sequences etc on mpc too. It's on the tabs above the directories on the touch screen.
@loopop
@loopop 3 жыл бұрын
I know, those aren’t based on genre categories and subcategories - just object types.unless I missed something.
@djbowlz2128
@djbowlz2128 3 жыл бұрын
loopop ohh I see what you’re saying now. Yea, I think the only way to do that is create your own custom expansions with the mpc expansion builder software. Anyway, great info as always. Very much appreciated.
@ajv820
@ajv820 3 жыл бұрын
Mileage will vary with not only synth presets but also the number of oscillators, and how many voices (MIDI notes) you're sending to a synth. You could easily quadruple CPU usage on Massive by increasing unison voices and playing chords on one instance.
@issiewizzie
@issiewizzie 3 жыл бұрын
Nicely done
@shapeshiftersmediagroup
@shapeshiftersmediagroup Ай бұрын
Fantastic video as always Loop. You're the goat. Do the Kontakt Guitars work on maschine plus standalone? Either as they are or maybe modified as a custom preset and resaved then loaded on Maschine plus? (without doing a multi-sample work-around)?
@skyddsrum3350
@skyddsrum3350 3 жыл бұрын
Great work as allways! If I understand this right, It's possible to transfer my +4000 Massive-presets to the PLUS? That would be a big bump in the instabuy direction!
@loopop
@loopop 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks and yes it should work. Feel free to email me some good ones - happy to try ;)
@Weareroses
@Weareroses 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve been debating between a bunch of different groove boxes… I think I’m headed toward the mpc one. Still watching videos and still debating, but thanks for this video… on to the mpc one videos 😂
@GregDixson
@GregDixson 3 жыл бұрын
ha! same here. mpc one seems like great value, and pretty much a daw in a box
@Weareroses
@Weareroses 3 жыл бұрын
@@GregDixson yeah definitely looks like I’m getting one… Also gonna pick up a few cheaper synths/ groove boxes too like the model samples and the sonicware stuff is looking dope too
@jessepace8868
@jessepace8868 3 жыл бұрын
@46:00 if you hold the q link button down for 2 seconds it displays what each bank does, and which bank you are currently on
@Iredidv
@Iredidv 3 жыл бұрын
About the lack of cv on maschine, their audio cards are compatible, wich means you could add an audio 6, wich supports cv.
@aloharay
@aloharay 3 жыл бұрын
After using the Maschine+ for a few weeks I really find a few of my worries were not a big deal. a) using knob to enter text is really faster than i thought it would be. b) no internal battery will make it easier to replace/solve in a few years when a battery has failed or reaches end of life. c) note selection and editing without a touch screen really is not bad s I feared. I can get done what I want without much effort. BUT I am looking forward to better IOS functionality. Midi over lightning cable to my ipad works fine, but not audio. Looking forward to a firmware solution to this in future.
@DoctorJRx
@DoctorJRx 3 жыл бұрын
if maschine plus had touch screens ..i would see the $1400 value but until then i'll stick with mk3
@michaels5166
@michaels5166 3 жыл бұрын
Listen folks,good content..As soon as something comes out,some one is swearing the last thing is slower,worse,different,outdated,blah,blah,blah.In the meantime,there's folks out here using Stuff like Portastudios,AkaiS612/Ensoniq EPS16+s,and a home desktop from CostCo,and they are making music/money.Take your time,unless you are getting $500,000 to finish an LP in a week,learn the gear you have,manage your time,learn how to compose,and make some great music.If you need a computer,invest heavily in RAM,storage,and find some great open source to go along with your commercial software.
@jmcg123
@jmcg123 3 жыл бұрын
I’m more interested in a comparison with Akai Force now that the Force has update 3.0.6 with arrange mode etc, rather than with the mpc.
@tubeMonger
@tubeMonger 3 жыл бұрын
I will stick to my MBP Pro and Ableton for recording and retouching the tracks from other devices. It will be nice to see how these dawless DAWs will develop from their current state. Thanks for sharing!
@SunTzu192
@SunTzu192 3 жыл бұрын
Here's my 2 cents after owning the MPC LIVE Gen 1, Maschine MK3 and Jam. I use the MK3 and Jam as my centre piece in my studio. I use the MPC standalone and when I'm out of the studio. 1. Browser Functionality- The browser to me is worlds better on the Maschine. You can tag and organise your samples i maschine saving time and helping my creative process. MPC is rather more manual and cumbersome to find your sounds (I am highly organised with my folders too). NI have just made finding particular sounds such a breeze. 2. NKS System: Another workflow advantage of NI is the NKS system you can browse presets on 3rd party plugins as thought they came stock with the maschine. Check out more on this. I don't use outboard gear/synths so cant speak to that integration. But have to say I do enjoy the workflow on the maschine especially paired with my jam. The MPC is just amazing as well, while my missus is doing her retail therapy, I opt to remain in the car and without any fuss can start sampling off my phone or downloading sounds from splice and get to work.
@mwachner
@mwachner 3 жыл бұрын
Great vid as always, thanks! Pricing is still a huge deal I think, is M+ really worth double? Hmmmm Not so sure. $999 maybe..... but $1400 is a steep jump that requires a lot of justification, and I'm not sure NI has provided that.
@drizzl8899
@drizzl8899 3 жыл бұрын
Mk3 bundled with komplete 13 sounds like a much better deal if I had that budget available for ni products only but as many of us now often we just want to have the latest hyped toys instead of what really makes sense for us. But I agree. If I didn't have a mpc from the current line allrdy I think I'd grab the live mk2 over the m+. Still I think the Maschine looks great so far but the price seems a bit off
@RikMaxSpeed
@RikMaxSpeed Жыл бұрын
Really helpful video showing that the Maschine+ has not really been designed for DAWless, you still need a computer to use it, unliked the Roland MC-707 for example.
@dblockvillin
@dblockvillin 3 жыл бұрын
I like the fact maschine has a ton of built in plug-ins. i have the mpc one and 3 simply is not enough wish they could have incorporated more but look at the price difference lol
@ildarkinildarkin
@ildarkinildarkin 3 жыл бұрын
All in all Machine + is still developing and hopefully will be even better, especially taking into consideration it's price. I was really surprised that CPU is overloaded sometimes - hope those limitations are fixable and just a matter of time. Thanks for the video!
@wiederwissen6124
@wiederwissen6124 3 жыл бұрын
I think CPU overload will never be fixed because you can always load more stuff. They only can make restrictions, like in the MPCs were only 8 synth tracks are aloud. To keep it open and let every user find his own limits I think is much better.
@ildarkinildarkin
@ildarkinildarkin 3 жыл бұрын
@@wiederwissen6124 Right, let it be limitless. Actually I meant better hardware/software integration. But who knows how far they can make it better...
@DarioMiticocchio
@DarioMiticocchio 3 жыл бұрын
@@ildarkinildarkin you're probably correct, I can see how as they polish SW and FW the box will get more lean and swift
@trimusfree
@trimusfree 3 жыл бұрын
Outstanding review as usual, Many Thanx!
@boimesa8190
@boimesa8190 3 жыл бұрын
Are the full plugin versions (massive, fm8 etcetc) included and if so, will it run in my DAW without maschine+
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