Oh for sure, I blame it on the timing of the record, had it come out on its original release date (and Question for the Culture not happen) it would have been more loved tbh, it had to fight so much then Blue Banisters dropped the same year 😭

For sure! Blue Bannisters took all Lana stans by stormmmm

​@@farisakram8013I WISH but it was unfortunately just NFR

FINALLY SOMEONE SAID IT

It was a tough year but we made it through (and the album was still amazing!)

Her controversies make me love her more

not a Lana listener during the Chemtrails era, but what is this controversial all about??

Oh Chemtrails definitely is her Evermore to NFR’s Folklore (I argue Folklore owes a lot to NFR despite being produced by Dessner who’s yet to work with Lana)

I agree with you that NFR is my fav and chem trails second bc the production for both is so cool. I also agree it’s dumb to think something is automatically bad because it is similar production wise to a prior work. This being said, I think the biggest issue with comparing folklore and evermore to these albums is that they were presented as two separate entities. I’m not a swifty, but ik a decent amount about taylor through friends and family. This being said, Folklore and Evermore were clearly intended to be “sister albums” by their name, aesthetic presentation, and close release dates. This is not true with NFR and chemtrails. While they are very similar production wise, they had a year and a half between releases and she took a departure from her explicit Americana LA aesthetic to be more of a road-trip album imo. This along with all the controversy discussed in the video, AND the immense success of NFR, it was easy to paint this album as a lack-luster attempt to recapture the magic of NFR without committing to the idea. While I understand that these shouldn’t be compared directly and appreciate both as I said prior, that’s why I think it was so poorly received at the time.

It definitely got overshadowed by so much but was overall a pretty sweet and well-done low-key album, glad you loved it! Thank u sm fpr watching ❤️

Thank you! So jealous! I went down to my local taco truck to pick up some food in honor of Ocean Blvd's stunning closing track!

@@EljohnMacaranas beautiful choice, tacos!!! Obsessed with that track. What a movie this album is

It’s a v low-key breezy sweet record, I do think a lot of people treat it harshly for not being a sprawling ambitious masterwork the way NFR was or attempting to be as bold as her earlier works but again there are highlights and strong visuals sprinkled throughout.

@@EljohnMacaranas was there any chance you would do a video on Violets Bent Backwards? I have an unconventional opinion that its lana's second best work, I know its a poetry book but each poem is melodic while her pen game throughout is at her best not to mention the ties back to May Jailer in Sportcruiser, the question for the culture and the expectations on her as in American writer. I believe it to be one of her strongest contributions for what I hope one day is her receiving the Pulitzer in music

That’s how you know the casual stans had so much to learn like Lana never looks back, constantly finding a new place and sound (like Ocean Blvd itself is yet another somewhat radical reinvention 🤭)

@@EljohnMacaranas exactly i feel like this album picks up in NFR but it transitions to it own moment in Lana's discography it evolves from the calm sound of NFR to a most country folk one at the end .

I really liked Chemtrails up to Yosemite but after that I feel like the album slowly goes downhill and the end track, For free, was underwhelming.

it does sort of fall off after Yosemite.. With the exception of 'Dance till we Die.' LMLYLaW & NAWWal are the only skips in between honestly. It's a very front-heavy record.

And I don't know why!!! NFR is so dull and repetitive! COTCC was so much more diverse, creative, and optimistic while keeping her iconic wistfulness.

Love the little quotes around scandals like in hindsight it felt very minor and the only real reason it really spread like crazy was because people were stuck at home and wanted to start dumb drama. It's genuinely a good standalone record, it was never going to be a landmark record but that's by design. It deserved better though. She kinda dropped the era fast to get BB ready.

​@@EljohnMacaranasthat, and her mistake she made was name dropping musicians with notoriously aggressive and deranged stans.

Literally one of her deepest cuts!

So true! It’s a very sweet album!

I think Doja herself subtly agreed in a deleted instagram comment so like it wasn’t an invalid question to ask, it just needed some writing time. Chemtrails paying the price for it and it being mostly ignored was a bit sad, hope to see some of its tracks on a future setlist should Lana tour again!

I think it was just a stupid way to get cancelled, you literally made something that IS unproblematic, look problematic.

@@hoesmad8207 Question for the Culture was like a perfect recipe to get cancelled: namecall several insanely popular artists, not consider their race in a time when everything is (being made) about race, reference feminism, call yourself delicate, mention minorities, go on a rant... I'm sorry she had to take that backlash, but it was 100% to be anticipated.

I heard it awhile back and I’m sad LMLYLAW got butchered by Jack 😭

Oh Neil’s shoot was perfection! My friend has a copy with the dress and the green valley and the picture disk with that from the UK store 😭

I didn’t realize LMLYLAW was an Ultraviolence cut… huh, that kinda tracks 😭

Thanks for watching! And I do see all your points for sure. Re: Blue Banisters, her Rolling Stone UK interview where she said she didn’t really promo or do much with it bc it was a “for her” record and not really meant to be released in her eyes makes it make more sense to me. I’m in the midst of my 3rd relisten of Ocean Blvd, I want to give every track a fair chance before I talk about it!

Thank you sm! I feel like pop music (whether it’s alt or traditional or just trippy) gets so much flack when it’s become an art form and proper medium, it deserves discourse! Lana is a master of the genre, I’ve loved talking about her with y’all sm.

Thank u sm! For watching and commenting and everything!

It’s probably one of the crown jewels on the album. Was originally gonna be title track under White Hot Forever. 🖤

Thank u sm! 😭

Wait, slay 🫡🥹

Keep being the beautiful woman that you are💗

I feel this so deeply!! Lana's music warms my trans heart. Love Song hits similarly to me, especially the second verse. Bless!

Same but as a gay man who used to be in love with a straight man 💀

@@MrAsyo1 omg same😭 TWICE

Thank u sm! 🖤

That reading tracks! There was a lot of cryptic imagery and like general mystery to the record most people ignored for controversy which is sad, I felt like she dropped the era a little too soon and moved on v fast!

It's a v sweet and simple record like I don't get why people rank it dead last like...

It’s so good! 😭 I always revisit it from time to time!

NFR’s a sweet quick listen but the drama of the era and Lana sorta shutting down around release and feeling “over it” soured it for some 😭

Honestly that’s a pretty solid take! Like DYKTTUOB feels like a new chapter for her in a way we haven’t seen in a bit!

@@EljohnMacaranas Yup. That's what I thought and my intuition felt like. Those four albums seem to exist in the same universe.

Karma and time genuinely proved her righr

NOT THAT ACRONYM lmao but honestly, I feel like you know a record's true worth years after the fact and when people who weren't around for whatever was happening evaluate it for themselves. I genuinely adored Reputation (which many loathed) years after her whole Kimye cancellation saga. While they really don't have anything to do with each other, I hope to see Lana stans (old and new) reevaluate this record without the baggage.

Thank u sm! I’m glad u have been enjoying them! I love your picks! And honestly, I can’t wait to share my thoughts on Ocean Blvd, there’s so much to unpack… it’s such a rich album. Already cracked my top 3 ngl… 😭

Up until LFL dropped, you're experiencing the Ultaviolence stan lifestyle.

Thank u ♥️

Tulsa Jesus Freak is one of her best songs yet!

Oh that was October 2018 so around the time she launched Mariners and NFR's era and OMG "i will won't not f*** you the f*** up up" has to be one of the most iconic tweets ever

*is

Variety agrees!

I have to agree on the vocals, she really pushes her limits here even if she dropped Dealer the same year

Chemtrials creates its own world. But in my opinion, her best vocal album is whether Honeymoon or Blue Banisters, those two are her best vocal eras. I'm also including her most recent Ocean Blvd, a complete collection of gorgeous and heavenly tracks.

@@Julian.Romero13 I totally agree, maybe what I meant to say is that her voice is more versatile in cotcc (see dance till we die, white dress).

that's a plan i have for after i do the series and maybe after a brief break from talking about Lana

I pray everyday that we get to click add to library on Say Yes to Heaven. I will def do an unreleased video but after a short break

@@EljohnMacaranas Yay looking forward to it, enjoy your well-deserved break!

Oh I keep changing what I want to say about Ocean Blvd like I'm writing my review and I have to say this is another career defining record much like NFR and it's truly her modern Honeymoon in a way (not sonically but in terms of challenging listeners)

I think it felt like an EP sister to NFR, like I love the callbacks but it never felt standalone

I’m waiting on Part 2 which was rumored then announced(?) apparently it’s a rock album! I’ll do both within the same week

Oh for sure. This album was overshadowed by her getting "cancelled" because no one had anything else better to do bc of the pandemic.

HAPPY DYKTTATUOB DAY 🤭

@@EljohnMacaranas fave song of Blvd?

@@EljohnMacaranas a+w or sweet I forgot the name

Blue Banisters always felt like a scattershot scrapbook of old demos reworked to tell a complicated story for die-hards. I do like Chemtrails for its relative simplicity, it was always meant to be NFR’s midwestern sister.

@@EljohnMacaranas couldn't agree more, although blue banisters has grown on me by a lot, it still remains as my least fav Lana album, I think chemtrails always captivated me for the exact reason, that it is simple, it always felt like an album it too hard to understand and get into, it always felt like the album I could listen late at night tin the forest, and imagine my own life in it, tbh it quite gives me vibes of being a summer album but being outside with ur friends near the night at the beach with ur guitar, jamming and dancing around the fire, in the night.

Honestly those tracks are my favorite. Sure they do sound too much like NFR but I think we needed them!

You came in the same way many BTD Paradise stans did: expert difficulty!

My first era was NFR fortunately 😭

Tbh probably not, Variety named it the best record she’s dropped!

Remember this was during the pandemic so everyone WAS chronically online at the time amplifying the actual backlash

@@EljohnMacaranas still doesn't change the fact that people who got offended are dumb. Some of us didn't have the privilege to be offended over an album cover in a global PANDEMIC with people dying and losing their jobs.

Is it the cop?

That’s fair, I think she dropped too much in 2021 like too much was going on for people to digest things!

BB was her more personal album of the two, she revealed in a Rolling Stone article she didn’t intend to release it so she didn’t promo it much!

To be fair, BB Lana revealed recently in an Interview that it was never meant to be released she just put it out there into the world to get her thoughts out (hence it never getting promoted well and sorta was just dumped)

I kinda enjoy COTCC but it definitely not a favorite and its weak in some areas; but I agree with Blue Banister it was so uncohesive and none of the songs stuck with me, also with the album having so many outtakes it just didn’t feel put together

Chemtrails is very good and her second best album. Blue Bastards is so mid.

I actually liked blue banisters when it dropped. The tracks from Violet for Roses till Wildflower Wildfire are my fav. The beginning and end of BB are a lil forgettable