Reviving my dead MP3 player - The NOMAD Jukebox

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A story about an MP3 player from my childhood, the Creative Nomad Jukebox. One of the first hard-disk based MP3 players ever made, and one that actually predated the release of the Apple iPod by an entire year.
In this video, the Nomad and I get reacquainted and I purchase a faulty one on eBay to repair here on the channel, but alas by fault finding skills were not at the level required to diagnose what was wrong with it. Thankfully, I got some help from the other side of the world and the 8-month repair story of a faulty Nomad Jukebox finds a happy ending.
Hope you enjoy the repair.
☎️ Getting in touch with Stefano Bassi
Facebook: stefano.bassi8/
Email: eglio1965@gmail.com
📖 Stefano's Nomad Jukebox Repair Guide & BIOS files: bit.ly/3wzcvZH
🛒 Specialty products specific to this project
DC-DC Buck Converter: amzn.to/3cpUiGQ
ChipQuik SMD Removal Kit: amzn.to/3pPzNqk
My philosophy on buying tools is to start small and to "outgrow" your gear over time. Expensive gear won't improve your repair and fault finding skills, only practice will do that. With that in mind below is what's in my current toolkit.
🔧 Toolkit
Screwdriver Set: amzn.to/2X7s0Gj
Automatic Wire Stripper: amzn.to/30F5TJm
Pocket Multimeter: amzn.to/3IdvzQz
Component Tester: amzn.to/3l5rHG8
🖌 Soldering Essentials
TS100 Soldering Iron: amzn.to/2YIJZUR
No Clean Flux Syringe: amzn.to/2NFUZvQ
No Clean Solder: amzn.to/2NHEAqQ
Desoldering Braid: amzn.to/312Grws
Tip Tinner: amzn.to/31w2EF4
Contact Cleaner: amzn.to/3dI93ly
🔍 Soldering Add-ons
An inexpensive Hot Air Rework Station to get you started: amzn.to/3w023bF
Fume Extractor with Hose: amzn.to/3hspLZi
Desoldering Vacuum Pump: amzn.to/3JdWex9
Circuit Board Holder: amzn.to/3k35Pzm
Helping Hands Soldering Aid: amzn.to/3ihgksP
🔥 Thermal Compounds & Tape
Kapton Tape amzn.to/3DEu0dd
Arctic MX-4 Thermal Paste: amzn.to/2Ak2y8w
1.5MM Arctic Thermal Pads: amzn.to/2Vv1RQU
🧴 Lubes and Epoxies
White Lithium Grease: amzn.to/2UApx5M
Plastic Epoxy: amzn.to/3up0LIm
Timestamps:
0:00 Intro
2:28 Testing the Nomad
3:04 Poor Man's Power Supply
4:38 Teardown
5:55 Fault Finding
10:57 Removing the BIOS
16:23 Installing a new BIOS
20:00 First Boot
22:07 Demo
25:03 Outro

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@BorderlineOCD Жыл бұрын

Huge thank you to Stefano for supporting the community with this project. There is a limited run of 32 BIOS chips now available for purchase directly from Stefano. Chips are €10 each. Shipping to US is €12 and Australia is €13.50. Tracking included. Other countries please inquire. Instructions: Email Stefano at eglio1965@gmail.com 1. Specify how many BIOS chips you want 2. Provide your name and shipping address Payment via PayPal in Euros (€) to eglio1965@gmail.com. Please do not send any funds before receiving a reply from Stefano with the exact amount to pay based on your quantity and shipping destination.

@DrBizz Жыл бұрын

Believe it or not, a family friend who I still know was a beta tester for Creative when they were in business here in California. When MP3s were talking off in the late 90's, he told me about how Creative was planning to make and release a compact digital MP3 player. He said it would hold 2GB of data and had all this inside info about it. It seemed like they were very ahead of their time with this idea. But Apple won out with the IPOD because of their deep pockets and...well just forcing their way to victory I guess. But there were some genius guys at Creative, they made brilliant audio stuff. He would bring home random recording hardware and try and have me crash it haha. I also tested some advanced 4 channel audio system for PC games at their office, so they would throw on random games for me to play while they checked stuff. I guess a 12 year old kid was cheap labor.

@nietjoost Жыл бұрын

What a small world

@BorderlineOCD Жыл бұрын

Fascinating tale, love it. Your were a lucky kid :) Creative was definitely a big player in the computer audio market in their heyday. I even remember having a Creative graphics card too (Riva TNT) at some point. Good times.

@DrBizz Жыл бұрын

@@BorderlineOCD Definitely! Glad to share the story. So their office at the time at least the one I went to was based out of Scotts Valley, here in California which is maybe 15 miles from where I live. Just south along the coast from the greater Bay Area, "silicon valley" as it's called. All the tech giants are here, especially game devs too. It was an office with cubicles and a shitload of prototype sound hardware, computers, keyboards, etc everywhere. EMU stuff was developed there too, I think they were different divisions of the same group of guys basically. Lots of the audio and sound devices were sold under that brand.

@Mrcaffinebean Жыл бұрын

Cool story and it's a neat device. But apple succeeded just by being better. This thing is huge compared to the iPod which had a better screen and UI. Not to mention Apple had developed iTunes to go with it. Jobs knew that without the content delivery network the mp3 player wouldnt go main stream.

@DrBizz Жыл бұрын

@@Mrcaffinebean For sure. I don't know the details of how it all went down but it's definitely a "Goliath won" type of story in the end. I bought an early gen IPOD back in the day, still can't believe I paid $400 for an MP3 player that worked for maybe 3 years and the hard drive crapped out. You had to bump the whole thing to get the drive spinning again haha. I always bought and collected CDs so once every cheapo android phone had an MP3 player I was good to go. Thank God for flash memory and our modern smartphones.

@x1dude Жыл бұрын

After literally YEARS of searching and hoping someone would figure out what was wrong with my most prized childhood posession, Stefano delivers. I am hoping to replicate your success to revive my own Nomad Jukebox I have kept all these years. Thank you for putting this content out there; I hope more people find this. Love your work.

@BorderlineOCD Жыл бұрын

Glad to hear it. Wish you success resurrecting your Nomad. I bet you have your own time capsule of songs from your youth. Let me know how it goes.

@charlybrown9024 Жыл бұрын

My DAP was plain dead. It was working just fine and the next day it was dead. I contacted with Stefano (such a nice guy, thanks Stefano) and he sent me a new flash chip. It has been the most difficult soldering job I have ever done. I came to think that I had killed my DAP, but after a lot of patience and going over the welds it finally started. I already have it working with a CF card. Thanks for everything to the maker of this video and Stefano.

@scouse1967 Жыл бұрын

That chip replacing was a dream to watch. Top class soldering work and to see that beauty power up was just amazing. Thank you for such a brilliant video :)

@BorderlineOCD Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the kind words. Glad you enjoyed it. It was a very rewarding project.

@larkan511 Жыл бұрын

I really hope that line about real/KZfaq techs was in jest and not directed at yourself. Whether you consider yourself a real tech or not you've got amazing skill and talent that many people would kill to have a fraction of, myself included!

@BorderlineOCD Жыл бұрын

Ha, thanks man. I think it's one thing to reproduce someone's work, it's another to be the guy discovering the fault/solution. Perhaps that's the philosophical end goal. Either way, you are where you are and everyone starts from somewhere. If anything it just motivates me to keep at it and build more experience with this sort of work because I really do enjoy it. I'm just really impressed that this guy casually found the issue, copied a BIOS from a working Nomad, ordered compatible chips that weren't even the ones used in the Nomad, and programmed them to work. Now that's some next level stuff right there.

@sittingstill3578 Жыл бұрын

@@BorderlineOCD It’s like the difference between _Adrain Black_ fixing a C64 and the _CuriousMarc_ team resurrecting and reverse engineering the Apollo hardware then integrating it into a real world scenario.

@ccoder4953 Жыл бұрын

@@BorderlineOCD Finding the issue is the hard part. Copying the bios is easy with a cheap EEPROM/Flash programmer. Finding a compatible chip is also pretty easy - most of these serial flash chips are pretty standard and can be interchanged with only a little care.

@joesalgadSF415 Жыл бұрын

This mp3 and Napster oh man those were the days

@BorderlineOCD Жыл бұрын

Oh man I think about those days more and more as I get older...

@HellScream107 Жыл бұрын

Such an awesome video! This was a great repair. I had a few friends in high school who also used Nomads, so it brought back memories of sitting in the cafeteria while being introduced to new songs. I'm glad there's still a community (or even just Stefano) trying to still support these devices.

@BorderlineOCD Жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it. I had one buddy who had one but that was it. We thought we were the coolest kids in school walking around with those Creative wrap-around-back-of-your-neck headphones.

@SinistarPro_Mike Жыл бұрын

The Nomad brings back some good memories for me. This was definitely an awesome treat watching you give it new life again.

@reggy_h 17 күн бұрын

When my player stopped quite a long time ago now, I was heartbroken. I thought that the hard drive had got corrupted. That was the 6.4Gb model. I found a 20Gb one and bought that quite cheaply thinking that if that wasn't working, I could try to make one good one out two. It was working but alas it it failed after a few months. Now I've got two faulty players. I was looking for the Jukebox software that would play on Win 7 but found you instead. So one really good thing has come from it. I can change the chip. I've got all of the kit. I used to repair stuff like that for a living. I just hope that the chips are still available. Thanks for this video, you've made my day.😁👍

@erinbuck129 Жыл бұрын

That soldering work was impressive! Really makes me want to get back to it myself and better hone my skills. Thank you also for giving us the info on the sped up sections (actual time especially!)

@Darkside1408 Жыл бұрын

Thank you to both Borderline OCD and Stefano Bassi for their work ! I have revived my Jukebox and it works great! You have to have soldering skills and good equipment as the flash chip is not that easy to replace. Really happy to have this relic of the past brought back to life. I will take it with me alongside my minidisc player.

@nevets9436 Жыл бұрын

I guess I better go check if my nomad still works. I guess It's going to die soon if it hasn't already. That's sad, It's a pristine unit in the original box.

@BorderlineOCD Жыл бұрын

Indeed, they will all croak out eventually as that Atmel chip fails. Now you know how to bring it back to life ;)

@74bobby Жыл бұрын

Love seeing you bring this back to life..

@BorderlineOCD Жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it buddy.

@kenizzard Жыл бұрын

Just fired mine up for the first time in about 15 years. Got it working. Very chuffed. Thanks for the inspiration!

Жыл бұрын

This was awesome... Thanks to Stefano and thank you.

@BorderlineOCD Жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it buddy.

@AleksandarIlijevski Жыл бұрын

This was an awesome repair! Really enjoyed it.

@BorderlineOCD Жыл бұрын

Thanks very much!

@No1BRC Жыл бұрын

Congrats, great job :) It's kinda moving to see such old hardware coming back to life again. Especially with that kind of music- great taste I must say, I wonder what person was enjoying it before. And yes, get yourself a microscope, even the cheaper ones will be of good help. Your eyes will appreciate it :)

@BorderlineOCD Жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it my man. I’m considering the microscope addition. It was a bit hard to see what I was doing.

@s3vR3x Жыл бұрын

thank you thank you thank you thank you! i was able to buy a blank eeprom and use stefano's bin file dump to program and solder in, my player is working again! happy days!!!!!!

@s3vR3x Жыл бұрын

oh my gosh! I had one of these long before the ipod and carried it with me everywhere in college and when i was studying in london. It died a few years ago and I wanted to figure out how to fix it! Not a lot of info on the internet about repairing these. this is a GREAT video!

@twistedtxb Жыл бұрын

I love all your videos, and I'm so glad that you're back after that long hiatus. May I recommend some video mods, like HDMI or RGB mods for retro hardware. I would love to see that!

@BorderlineOCD Жыл бұрын

I'm definitely open to doing some mods. A few that I was interested in a while back seem to always be out of stock so I'm late to the party. I think an upscaler is something I might invest in soon which would probably motivate me to do some RGB mods. Right now I have no good way of using RGB.

@ianwalker2259 Жыл бұрын

Keep up the good work!

@LOLMAN9538 Жыл бұрын

This is an amazing example of how far a proficiency with soldering can get you. Incredible work.

@fatedghostgaming2267 Жыл бұрын

I love your vids they are so relaxing

@lesliew.2333 Жыл бұрын

Same for me…how much would you charge to check my nomad which is not powering up.

@designer-garb572 Жыл бұрын

I bought 2 of these and still have them both, one I used for a couple of years and presumably still works the other is still brand new in its original packaging, good to know they still sell

@gregwhitaker438 Жыл бұрын

Interesting video, I’m glad people like Mr. Bassi are finding solutions on old bits of kit like this! As others have said a digital microscope will be handy. You might find one secondhand if you need to keep costs low.

@BorderlineOCD Жыл бұрын

As it goes with most of this retro tech, its a labor of love. There's really no other logical reason to do it.

@briancoulomb Жыл бұрын

Excellent repair. I love your style.

@BorderlineOCD Жыл бұрын

Thanks very much!

@PokemonMp3 Жыл бұрын

I like that you speed up the clip but also put the original time it takes to do the soldering. nice touch!

@djahyeahh Жыл бұрын

You mad lad, you did it! Happy for you man.

@BorderlineOCD Жыл бұрын

Haha thanks man.

@olivierauberger Жыл бұрын

It's funny that you fixed this Nomad. I was thinking about my old Archos that would shut down. Man I had so much fun with that device.

@BorderlineOCD Жыл бұрын

I remember those, vaguely. Never had or used one but the name sounds very familiar.

@Saberwaisen Жыл бұрын

You should set a reminder for 2042 so you don't forget to change that chip.

@BorderlineOCD Жыл бұрын

Lol

@usdms13 Жыл бұрын

Good shit my Guy! Keep it up man

@BorderlineOCD Жыл бұрын

Thanks man. Cheers.

@richardsmith4992 Жыл бұрын

What a great vid, been looking for this fix for years. I've managed to grab about 5 of these over the last few years, even a brand new cellophane sealed one - yep none of them boot! The closest I got was the backlight coming on...I'm definitely going to follow this up and see if I can get any of mine working, I did own one from new back in the early 2000's, be really cool to get one of these working again.

@AB-wi2mh Жыл бұрын

You have mad skills my freind 👏

@alan16cr Жыл бұрын

Master of soldering salutes from Costa Rica 🇨🇷

@andrewgrant6516 Жыл бұрын

I'm still using my nomad jukebox, 20 gig of music, awesome build quality. Can't change the music on it any more, but there's so much on it, not a problem.

@Eyetrauma Жыл бұрын

Congratulations on that solder work. I do hobby electronics but don’t feel like i have the dexterity to pull it off, nice job!

@morebasheder Жыл бұрын

Haha for me it's not the dexterity, it's just that at my age I have 0.3 megapixel eyeballs and everything is too near or too far to see properly 😂

@Jagernaughty Жыл бұрын

I remember my office back in the day banning personal cd players at your desk. It was about a week before "whatever the blue thing is" got banned too.

@fergusmd Жыл бұрын

Great content! Keep it up Hope to see Sega Saturn repair in bright future

@morebasheder Жыл бұрын

I remember having one of these. I had a set of NiMH batteries for it, and after an hour journey to work, and an hour back again, they were pretty much done. Great machine at the time, but then of course along came solid state devices a short time later and it was game over, but I loved mine. Took an absolute age to upload stuff onto the hard drive though

@Fyshtako Жыл бұрын

Brilliant job on that chip!

@BorderlineOCD Жыл бұрын

Thanks! Cheers.

@bstar777777 7 ай бұрын

I just pulled out my Jukebox and it still works fine. Other than the headphone jack needing some deoxit, it's working great. Kind of neat listening to the old recordings I have.

@vali103 Ай бұрын

It will die eventually 😢, mine was fine 5 months ago.

@kenny9648 Жыл бұрын

Your soldering work is so relaxing to watch. Thanks for your wonderful work!

@BorderlineOCD Жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it my man.

@pedromimoso8804 Жыл бұрын

Great work! 👍👍👍

@BorderlineOCD Жыл бұрын

Thanks buddy. Cheers.

@exodous02 Жыл бұрын

My older brother had one of these and I got a iPod. He was so delusional he tried to tell me the iPod was stupid and his was way better. His audio jack broke and mine I used for years after that until I just wanted more than 20GB. I miss my iPod, that wheel was genius. It is really cool you got it to work. -I know there is CF card hacks for older MP3 players so the spinning HDD don't drain the battery, you should try one on this player!- Looks like I spoke too soon!

@jensmaa Жыл бұрын

Little tip from my side: Use Rose's Metal instead of Chipquik. Costs only a fraction but does exactly the same.

@PaulTheFox1988 Жыл бұрын

That's a great tip, I just looked it up and 400g (~1lb) is £25, whereas chipquik is not far off that for only maybe 30g

@jensmaa Жыл бұрын

@@PaulTheFox1988 You're welcome! Just don't skimp on the amount of flux and always have proper ventilation =)

@BorderlineOCD Жыл бұрын

Haven’t heard of it, I’ll have to check it out.

@ftlbaby Жыл бұрын

I had one if these in college!!! So good with 6gb spinning hdd.

@christopherrasmussen8546 3 ай бұрын

I kept mine alive all these years. It's slow with a bigger hard drive. This and the Zen. The Zen has an SD card upgrade.

@jampots1202 Жыл бұрын

Very interesting and well done

@BorderlineOCD Жыл бұрын

Thank you! Cheers.

@gehx Жыл бұрын

Nice work!! :)

@BorderlineOCD Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@aliasdjavanguard Жыл бұрын

Great resurrection

@xpavpushka Жыл бұрын

8 gigs for mp3 player in 2000? That's HUGE! My first flash drive was 256mb back in 2004 or so

@MrAlan1828 Жыл бұрын

I had a Diamond Rio when it first came out with 32mb Media Card....in 1998 I think

@taskanawa9604 Жыл бұрын

well done

@glassvial Жыл бұрын

Borderline OCD: doesn't have half the tools the guide says to fix the thing Also Borderline OCD: fixes it anyway 🤣 I'll be honest, I don't even remember these things being on the market, probably a mental block due to the insane price tag back in the day, or the iPod and Sandisk offerings being more available/popular around here back then. Great job on fixing it!

@taltechchip5827 Жыл бұрын

Proud at you, your skills are definitely improving 👌 next step is a stereo microscoop and dive intro the micro soldering world.

@BorderlineOCD Жыл бұрын

Haha thanks man. I still remember your comment on one of my earliest videos a few years ago when I was using a $10 Weller soldering iron to fix a PSOne. It ran at a constant 450C with no temperature control LOL and you were one of the folks encouraging me to get a better iron. I ended up pulling the trigger on the TS100 the same day or the next day. Needless to say I'm a lot deeper in this hobby now but encouraging comments from folks like you meant a lot back then especially since I was just starting out and had no clue what the heck I was doing. So thank you for the continued support over the years. It's positive comments from people like you that encourage new electronics hobbyists and small creators to keep going.

@taltechchip5827 Жыл бұрын

@@BorderlineOCD Nice to hear I made a difference, Means alot to me as well. I guess Life is all about that. Help to improve each others skills. I used to train repair technicians in a company. You are definitely one of the better ones. Eager to learn and to improve. Very nice to see that. Keep up the nice videos. You have made a difference to alot of people by now :)

@osgeld Жыл бұрын

computer repair side hustle, mmm that brings back good times. A couple a buddies and I had that going and using funds from that I went out and bought a 20 inch Mistubushi LCD monitor ... which in the year 2000 was over a grand after sales tax. Though to be fair it was my main monitor until like 2012 and I still use it today on my Mac G4

@BorderlineOCD Жыл бұрын

Haha nice. Yep it paid dividends to be the tech kid in the group. Computer repair and custom audio CDs. Those were the days.

@Helladamnleet Жыл бұрын

Watching you solder that chip in with no microscope gave me confidence.

@BorderlineOCD Жыл бұрын

It can be done. Tricky but very doable.

@repukiro Жыл бұрын

Great job! I allways wanted an upgrade to my muvo 128mb.. amazing design powered with a AAA battery...

@MrAlan1828 Жыл бұрын

Mini Discs were also powered by a single 2AA too

@thenoid5131 Жыл бұрын

Ok this episode got you a new subscriber, no microscope and not afraid to take a chance 🤓👍

@BorderlineOCD Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the sub!

@mr.flex3017 Жыл бұрын

Nice 🙏 work step bye step is key 😊

@BorderlineOCD Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@smithincanton Жыл бұрын

I had the same 6G version of the Nomad! Annnd off to eBay!

@BorderlineOCD Жыл бұрын

Good luck. I checked just before posting this video and I didn't see as many listings as earlier this year. But if you really want one a Saved Search wouldn't hurt. I'm sure you can get one for $25 with this fault.

@Yogi8156 7 ай бұрын

I still have my old creative nomad zen extra and it works great. Just need to get the headjack fixed on it and I will still use it.

@SpartanX360 Жыл бұрын

Back then they where the shizzles!! Way before iPod was born. If you had one everyone knows you’re a baller and bring it to parties. Perfect jukebox player ever.

@BorderlineOCD Жыл бұрын

Haha totally. Those were the days…

@deusprogrammer_thekingofspace Жыл бұрын

I always wanted one of these back when I worked at Best Buy in the late 90's early 2000's. That and I wanted the one that used that miniature Zip disks. Can't remember the name of them.

@clivekapijimpanga7990 Жыл бұрын

The robot voice, Hahahahaha! Great work! I actually shelved mine because of a similar issue

@jeffgoodnough9704 Жыл бұрын

You're the Bob Ross of soldering. I can't believe Creative put the BIOS on a 20-year ROM chip but then used all tantalum and ceramic caps... I bet the signal noise across that board is negligible, though, and as soon as I saw the quality of the components, I understood why Mr. Bassi took on the project of reanimating the Nomad.

@BorderlineOCD Жыл бұрын

Ha, thanks, that's high praise indeed. It's apparently a real audiophile unit, and some of it's unique features are lost on someone like me. But, it was a fun project and I'm glad I have a working one to mess around with.

@jeffgoodnough9704 Жыл бұрын

@@BorderlineOCD High praise is in order; thanks to your videos, I have attempted my most intense projects and achieved my greatest successes with soldering. I've developed a deeper enjoyment of electronics hobbies and built skills and confidence that I didn't have before- and it's all because I really connect with the way you detail your process. I have learned a great deal just because you equipped me to engage with the information; your channel is a boon to electronics hobbies!

@Dorff_Meister Жыл бұрын

I like your poor mans variable DC power supply. I have a couple of those and will put one to that use.

@BorderlineOCD Жыл бұрын

I'm about to pony up for a proper bench PSU but that little buck converter has served me flawlessly for 2 years now.

@charlybrown9024 Жыл бұрын

I have that model, in perfect working condition, and the firmware version it has is: Version 2.98J 7-18-2003. I do not know if there is a more recent one, I updated it more than 15 years ago.

@TheJackal483 Жыл бұрын

I really enjoyed this video. Gutsy move not using the paste to solder the chip.I would of chickened out and used the paste. You have mad skills.

@SummonerArthur Жыл бұрын

Also, props for the chip in which the BIOS probably got dumped from. It probably will save lotsa Nomads

@chbuddah86 Жыл бұрын

Ah man. I had the ZEN Xtra and STILL think it's the best mobile audio device I've owned. Had a 2.5" drive that you could just swap with a larger one...I had an 80GB jukebox you could just use Windows File Explorer to drag and drop .mp3 over to in like 2004...Good..ol..days.

@cosmokramer4585 Жыл бұрын

Great video as always and yes a microscope will change your life when it comes to board level repair. Worth it to spend a little money on a good one with a camera.

@BorderlineOCD Жыл бұрын

This is probably the first project where I really felt I needed it but I'm considering it. The ones with a screen and recording capabilities aren't cheap though...

@Mrcaffinebean Жыл бұрын

impressive repair! pretty amazing that their is still support out their for these things!

@MatijaErceg Жыл бұрын

I'm not crying, you're crying

@BorderlineOCD Жыл бұрын

I'm here for you brother. It's going to be okay.

@QsTechService1 Жыл бұрын

Good job on the soddering 👍

@BorderlineOCD Жыл бұрын

Thanks buddy.

@GoWstingray Жыл бұрын

Great work and another step of learning, sorry to be tip guy, and as long as you get the desired result who really cares but, no need to tin the pads once braided, better to tack one of the end legs then align the opposite set of legs and tack, you can then jump straight to adding flux an flowing out the legs, add a blob of solder to one end and draw the iron across, spreading the solder evenly the flux does the work. Best iron tips for flowing the legs would be one with a hoof, as it provides a well of solder when flowing out, and when clean can be used to draw off excess solder from the side you flowed to using capillary action, make sure it’s in good condition as it can easily catch a leg and bend which is annoying. Well done again.

@BorderlineOCD Жыл бұрын

Thanks buddy. I'm not allergic to tips and feedback, they are always appreciated here. I guess I've evolved and mellowed out a bit as I get older. If only I could kick my know-it-all younger self in the ass, he sure deserved it.

@sheerkhanful Жыл бұрын

I owned one of these and used the hell out of it playing music at work. Can't say that I miss it though. It took forever to load via USB. There was an even more ambitious one released by Rio called the Karma. I had one and it was cooler than the Nomad but also had super flaky software. You had to put it into a cradle and load it via ethernet.

@refridgedude1841 3 ай бұрын

So glad to have found this. I hope Stefano still has chips.. I have 2 of these....my original one crapped out a few years ago...so I bought another one on ebay that worked for awhile but when I went to use it this year it wouldn't boot...would basically just lock up at the creative logo... now it acts like yours...nothing. no backlight or anything. The drive spins up but that's it. The other one won't even spin the drive. Must does nothing. That one died about 5 yrs b4 the ebay one... so I guess some chips do in fact last longer. I wonder why they just fail... Do you have those other 2 chips still and if so would you consider selling one?

@fgmenth Жыл бұрын

I had a Jukebox 3 when I was young, but it got unfortunately stolen. Does anyone remember the classic music library that came preloaded with it? I used to listen to it every night. Is there a way I can find it somehow?

@TRONMAGNUM2099 Жыл бұрын

Love the videos. You can get a little 100mhz pocket scope off Ali Express for less than 60 bucks. Mine has come in handy for some C64 repairs.

@BorderlineOCD Жыл бұрын

Which scope did you buy? I'd love to get one with an embedded screen rather than one that needs to run off PC software and I'm not finding much below the $150 range.

@TRONMAGNUM2099 Жыл бұрын

@@BorderlineOCD ZEEWEII DSO1511G. You can get a 1 channel for 60 USD and the 2 channel for 85 USD. For the occasional signal check it works well.

@wilsondavenport6939 Жыл бұрын

I like the idea of putting an ssd in there maybe upgrading the storage. Would be cool seen it done on old laptops and iPods

@MrAlan1828 Жыл бұрын

you can use a 16gb sd card but woud need the software boot loader cannot find anywhere

@Crftbt Жыл бұрын

2 more nomad jukebox repairs with the spare chips? :)

@BorderlineOCD Жыл бұрын

Great minds think alike ;) I’ve ordered another one already lol. I think I’m gonna save it until I do some research and get an oscilloscope so we can learn something new in the next one and probe the dead BIOS chip.

@mandc20022 Жыл бұрын

Damn in 2001 I had a 128megabyte mp3 player the rca lyra

@ikerrodriguez9465 10 ай бұрын

Many thanks for the video! I also have a 2000 DAP Jukebox that does not start, but I thought it was because of the dead 3V lithium cell soldered to the PCB. Why you didn't change that cell (CR1220)?

@BrainSlugs83 Жыл бұрын

Slick repair, I know those pins are much smaller than they look on video... but one thing was kind of bugging me: the brand of the old EEPROM chip is "Atmel", not "Amtel". (Atmel is the same company that makes the AVR microcontrollers used in the older 8-bit Arduinos; versus Amtel which is apparently some sort of phone company that is used by the prison system? I didn't look too close. 😅)

@thesickness1992 Жыл бұрын

I would love to see a DosDude IDE SSD upgrade on this to replace the mechanical drive

@redneckwarriors1 Жыл бұрын

the good ole days of limewire, dang were old

@linuxares Жыл бұрын

omg I had one of those!

@tengkusulaiman Жыл бұрын

In 2001 I was badly needed a mp3 player. But this thing was super expensive. Other choice was portable mp3 cd player. Yet expensive but cheaper than solid memory type. But I was scammed because that cd player, had terrible decoding quality and battery hogger. Until 2011, I bought my first Samsung phone, It worked as I intended, but it was on BadaOS. Terrible support. Then in 2014, moved to android phone with jetaudio plus. And 2021, hey I moved to android with youtube music premium. Let see in 5 years later, what I will use. Will comment again in 5 years.

@jamesarmenti8876 Жыл бұрын

Definitely invest in a microscope. Game changer as far as smd work goes. Even the cheap ones (150cad) are worth having over nothing at all. Keep up the good work. Love your content!

@BorderlineOCD Жыл бұрын

Do you have one in that price range that you’ve tried and you’d recommend?

@mercster Жыл бұрын

Hah... Amazing how big that thing is. I had an MP3 player pretty early, I don't remember any being that size. Maybe it was for kind of, sitting on a desk or something.

@mercster Жыл бұрын

At first I thought maybe it held a CD you could rip to the hard drive. But then, yeah... this is hard drive based, forgot that.

@LCDLCD-cl2qp Жыл бұрын

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@jeremiefaucher-goulet3365 Жыл бұрын

I'm surprised to hear the flash is an issue on these devices. Granted they only guarantee 20 years, but usually they last much longer than this.

@bobmcbob4399 Жыл бұрын

Well, pretty much every product has a "planned obsolecence part" in it, designed specifically to breakdown after a reasonable period. Perhaps this is that part. Would not surprise me at all.

@kaydiam7065 Жыл бұрын

Are there any solutions to improve the USB1.1 speed? As a workaround it would be nice to know how the filesystem works, so it would be possible to copy files directly to HDD/CF.

@shady0808 Жыл бұрын

Never noticed before but there is a subtle reverb in this video, sounds like a faint but deep second voice. Maybe check your audio setup, haven't checked your other videos

@momo1975 5 ай бұрын

Great video, i have the same model. Did you figure out how to install the drivers for windows 10? I can't find them anywhere

@vali103 5 ай бұрын

Check the cloud drive link in description.

@ACMEsabers Жыл бұрын

Excellent work brother, you should definitely get a microscope

@peteregan9750 Жыл бұрын

chipquick is just a brand name product / it is jut flux and low melt solder. like you videos, keep it up

@BorderlineOCD Жыл бұрын

It's been a while but when I first used the Chip Quik stuff on a Neo Geo BIOS swap I read all sorts of interesting things about it. They are apparently secretive about their formula although forums thats discuss the composition have discerned that the main alloy is Bismuth along with some other exotics. I haven't tried the Chinese stuff marketed as "low melt" solder and I'm sure it works just as well. I use it seldom enough that I like buying the small Chip Quik alloy/flux kit. It works very, very well.

@StefanoBassi-iy7kl Жыл бұрын

A new update for nomad jukebox DAP6G02 the Bluetooth interface! 21:28

@vali103 5 ай бұрын

Mine just died. On the screen apears "Corruted code", i think the flash memory is not completely dead, but no longer hold various bits of data. Already contacted Stefano and is willing to help me.