Wave, are your replacement batteries $900 apiece? I’m wondering if I should buy this mower and one of my concerns is the cost of replacement batteries

My RM480 went 5 yrs. on the first set of batteries and paid for new ones in savings at 54 months. Upgraded from 75 ahr. to 100 ahr. batteries. Mower runs better than new. Absolutely NO maintenance issues in 177 hrs. of run time. DOD is down 2%, so new batteries should last even longer.

J Dee, are your replacement batteries $900 apiece on this mower? I’m wondering if I should buy this mower and one of my concerns is the cost of replacement batteries

@@reality1958they shouldn’t have to be replaced for a long while (5+years) and by then, they should be a lot cheaper

@@waynereibsome I hope so. It’s now down to this mower and the Greenworks!

Almost one year later, has yours held up well?

That is true of the Ryobi that this seems to be based on. You can go into reverse gear with or without the blades spinning. They recommend not mowing while in reverse. People recommend lots of things ... 😅

Yeah, planning on getting it closer to Fall when the leaves are coming down. I've always had a problem with how to handle leaf collection and that'll make it much easier

I have 7 Ryobi 40 volt packs of various ahr. and so far (3 yrs for the oldest), no issues with any of them. I use them in rotation so they get evenly used. I have had one 18 volt Ryobi pack fail after 13 years and 2 more are 14 years old , but showing degradation when used under heavy load (circular saw). Again, all six are used in rotation. The life span of any of the 80 volt lithium packs in the riders is up in the air until they start failing.

It appears that the Ego 56 volt ARC packs are starting to fail after 3-5 years. No idea how they are being used/abused, but I have neighbors with them that are failing. One is looking into changing platforms (brands) because of the bad life spans.

@@jfrye6057 I've heard similar things with the EGO batteries. I have to wonder if it has anything to do with the rapid chargers they use. They claim to have advanced battery tech and cooling, but that's more than likely all marketing.

@@e.z.e.932 Don't know, but the 40 volt Ryobi batteries I'm using with their rapid chargers are OK so far. the rapid chargers have fan cooling and the batteries have internal temperature sensors that communicate with the chargers. Again, time will tell.

I'm on my 11th year of my Ego mower and other tools. Original blade and battery, and it all runs and works like day one. I take proper care of my things and keep my batteries inside the house. I can see them degrading if people leave them in a non temperature controlled garage, which I know a lot of people do. It gets too cold in the winter and too hot in the summer for them.

I think it is a Suzuki TU 250x, if I'm not mistaken.

bought a nice less than 100 hr used john deere x384 for less than that. I wonder whos mower will last longer :) that deck looked really flimsy

What parts do you think would wear out? Most wiring and electrical parts are pretty generic besides a main control board.

Yea

Just disconnect the speaker!

The charger is pretty heavy but I brought the charger and batteries inside to stay charged all this winter.

I'm very happy with it so far. Kind of overkill for the size yard I have but so much nicer than a push mower. If I didn't buy this, I'd probably be paying over 3k to hire someone to mow. Check the r/electriclawnmowers subreddit. I have a list in there of many battery powered mowers and their basic stats

You said it got stuck on hills. I live on a hill. You think this would be okay on a dry day?

This mower uses the 80v mower. It would have different connectors. I still haven't confirmed myself if the Ryobi 80v is the same as Hart

I realize that. What I am saying is the companies regardless of volt. Have different connecters. Pins are different. Guess my comment went right over your head.@@mushroom89

​@scrambler69-xk3kv Do your own video, you clown. Maybe you can contribute something positive instead of being an Internet a hole.

I've read the Ryobi and Hart 80v batteries interchange with a simple plastic piece removed but still looking for additional confirmation. The packs do look identical and made by the same parent company which makes me feel that battery options will remain viable.

Agreed, basically same as the Ryobi riding mower (not the zero-turn), except using the 80v rather than the 40v batteries. Both brands are owned by the same company - TTI.

My roommate's about the same and he can ride it just fine.

Funny questions. 1 shallow cup holder. No apple play and no USB port. You're stuck with whatever you can get on your phone and with your data plan. Iheart radio and Spotify come to mind. Since it only has a 1 hour run time, I guess there's no need for a USB port.

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I think that's what this is.

I just checked, and yes the batteries can be plugged into the same charger that plugs into the mower directly i.imgur.com/CzyQR1R.jpg

@@mushroom89 thank you very much for the reply and info.

No it doesn't. Ryobi batteries not compatible with Hart. Similar is not same. Looks same. Different proprietary connectors.

@@claytonyoung1351 Oh is that true? I hadn't tried to swap them.

It's on sale right now

I've seen them for $500 each on discounted tool sites that I have used and trust. These batteries should last 10 years before needing to be replaced also. They're not like lead acid where you need to replace it every couple years.

@@mushroom89 I see. Could you please tell me those discounted sites? If I can get the batteries for that price I might just pull the trigger. Also. Some sites on lawn mowers say that electric mowers last about 5 years and gas mowers 10 because they are more durable. Do you agree that electric riding mowers aren’t durable? Like the cutting decks for example? You are a big help thank you

@@reality1958 Direct Tools Outlet has big sales occasionally and I've seen the Ryobi 80v batteries for $500. A lot of people that are pro-gas mowers typically don't bother looking into battery options because of their bias towards gas. A battery mower can last just as long or longer than some gas ones. Gas mowers can still be made from cheap plastics and have the added cost and potential for needing repairs more often just by the nature of gas motors (oil changes, spark plugs, air filters, etc).

@@mushroom89 I see. Thank you so much…I will contact Direct Tools. Something that a rep at Home Depot told me is that the mowing decks on a lot of mowers are not robust. He was telling me that the John Deere’s mowing decks are heavy duty. But I only have a standard suburban 1/4 acre house lawn so that shouldn’t be a problem. I think you may have redirected me back to electric!

@@reality1958deck durability depends on type of yard mostly, for someone who mows every other week or etc with a decent flat land doesn’t need heavy duty decks. Since your not a mowing company.

I can mow for an hour and the battery still at 90%.

Well, the 80 volt Ryobi 0turn mowers went up in price by $2,000 after the initial pricing. Lithium ain't cheap.

... and Ryobi is "on sale" for $3500 now... soooooo...

No they are hung and float from the chassis. Some, like my RM480, have adjustable anti-scalping wheels on the corners of the deck

Nearly all of the 30" decks don't have anti-scalping wheels. Larger decks do.

For reference, a Toro 30" self propel walk behind is now $1500 (dinosaur juice)

​@@wadeb.5509Dinosaur juice had me laughing.

The Ryobi RM480 has lead acid batteries doesn't it? At 48v and lead acid, I think the Hart's 80v lithium mower is a better deal.

@@mushroom89 Again, the cost of operation with electric riders is dependent on the lifespan and replacement cost of the batteries. The 75 ahr., 12 voltSLA/AGM batteries in my RM480e ran for 58 months, 160 hours of use, and 2,082 charges. It cost me $660 to replace them with 100 ahr. batteries which the savings over an ICE mower hit after 54 months. Few of these lithium powered mower makers will state the life span of their battery packs. Ego does state a limit of 1,000 charge cycles for their 56 volt packs. CubCadet doesn't state a limit, but the lithium pack in their electric riders costs $4,000 and requires a CC technician to service the replacement. FWIW, Tesla stated the first generation battery packs in their cars were good for 1,600 charge cycles (300K-500K miles) and cost $19,000 to replace. My point is that the lithium riding mowers haven't been around long enough to establish any sort of cost effectiveness regarding the batteries.

@@jfrye2475 Did you watch the video? This mower has removable lithium batteries. You can use the same ones Ryobi makes and they're $700 I think.

@@mushroom89 Yes, I did view the video and the batteries do look like the Ryobi 80 volt, 10 ahr. packs. The Ryobi packs list for $899 each. Didn't see any comparable Hart batteries listed anywhere. Again, no one is saying how many charge cycles these will do, and they haven't been in use long enough to see. When I bought my RM480e, Ryobi was saying about five years of life span for the Leoch batteries. The Ryobi system limits the Depth Of Discharge (DOD) to 30% (70% remaining) and Leoch stated the batteries should do 1,500-1,700 cycles at that DOD. Battery sites state the SLA/AGM batteries will do five times the 50% DOD rating at 10% DOD. The 50% DOD rating was 500-600 cycles, so at 10% DOD, they should do close to 2,500 cycles. My mower has a DOD of just over 10% and saved $685 in gas and maintenance over 54 months and the four replacement batteries cost $660 total. My question is: Will the lithium batteries last long enough to pass the breakeven point? The batteries in this Hart mower will cost $1,800 to replace. Will they last long enough to make it a cost effective solution?

@@jfrye2475 I don't have the time or interest to look into the specific rated number of cycles for the batteries or if Hart even has that documented anywhere, but typically Lithium batteries have a longer lifespan than lead acid, have higher capacity, and their easy to remove. Their capacity should be more since lead acid can't discharge past 50% without permanent damage. The cost difference between Ryobi's lead acid mower and Hart's lithium mower is not much. I would go with lithium.

Likewise for people who cut grass when it's wet...not good for the grass either.

My dad is 81. most cantankerous curmudgeon you could possibly meet. has a Yanmar tractor with rice patty tires and mows wet ground all the time. finish mower is completely rusted out and the yard is covered with ruts and grooves from the mower and the tractor.

If you leave the battery on the charger all the time you will kill it. After you finish mowing go take a shower and when you are finished, but the battery on charge and as soon as it is fully charged remove it from the charger. Take it in the house do not leave it in an unheated shed or garage over the winter. Take it in the house during the summer months as well. These batteries do not tolerate temp. extremes. Not to hot and not to cold. Mine is three years old now and I can mow both mine and my neighbors yard on a charge. Little more than an hour run time. I love mine. 40volt 20inch walk behind.

My 88 ariens gt18 will outlive any new machine on the market today