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I've seen a hell of a lot of bikes with those power commanders and they almost all run super lean. They can be ALL OVER THE PLACE. My advise, get it flashed by a reputable shop and make sure its an unlocked tune so you don't have to go back to them if they mess it up. I got mine done at Moore Mafia and they did a great job.

I’ve installed a number of power commanders and one flash tune kit. The flash tune is way less work to install but a bit more technical with the software. But I love the flash tune. The amount of control is amazing.

If you fart in california you broke emission laws 😂

My favorite part of the ftecu kit on my FZ07 was lowering the fan temps. On slow rides on a hot day in a pack of running bikes, it helps keep the temps way down

Good video! One thing that was not properly mentioned is how easy it is to revert to stock with a power commander. You mentioned removing it which works but is not even needed. With a power commander all you need is to connect your laptop or even smartphone to your bike and change to any map (even stock) you want. You can even have 2 maps on it and add an external switch to change between them.

Glasses vs Lasik is the best analogy I've heard yet. Great video Ari.

so glad this dude is still making videos, i was an avid fan of mc garage

Cool vid man. There is alot of new riders that this will help because when I started alot of people were stingy with info which meant I cost myself some money and heartache but I eventually got it all lined out.

Hi Ari, good to see you back in a workshop! Greetings from Belgium!

ive watched a handfull of someone explaining whats the point of dyno tunes, ecu, and power commanders. adn thsi is the first one where I feel like I actually got to understand what was being talked about. the analogoly about glasses vs. lasik was gold

Your vids are super helpful and keep the spark going in motorcycling!

You do a great job explaining things without the bs and excessive product placements. Myself I have a fair bit of experience, but just manage to confuse most people. Thank you for a direction to point people in for reliable easy to grasp information. Again. (-; Revzilla's stuff just keeps getting better.

I enjoy Ari's videos and podcast's very much! Keep up the good work.

Slick new set and overall production. Looking forward to many more episodes

Glad to see you made a full recovery! Love your videos.

Great to have you back, you always provide good information 👍

love thew new shop! hopefully this means we'll get a lot more videos from you!

Feel much better now, this video came out just in time!! I just mailed out my ECU for a flash, it’s middle of winter so I got all the time in the world lol Thank you Ari for the video!!

Again a great video to start the day. Thanks guys!

Great language and images. Looking forward to all new episodes of technical matters.

Always love Ari's tech videos!

Great set up and a awesome video! I like this little segment and the dude is pretty cool

I had ECU flash on 1250 bandit bit of backfire from slip-on and air filter box mod cleaned it up nice and responsive down low pulls hard but still smooth and responsive very happy

How he explains the glasses vs lasik was really helpful..thanks

What I'd like to see from Ari would be to take all the bikes Zac uses for Daily Rider on a ride through some faster twisty mountain highways comparing them more as a fun bike, separate from their daily use. To top that off, take them to a track and do a dozen hot laps and put them on a list for best lap, showing the fastest lap as a video ending.

Nice to see you again Ari. "Get Busy Living."

The optimal approach also depends upon the capabilities/design of the ECU. For example, the advanced ECU of the 2020+ BMW S1000RR/XR/R supports fully closed-loop operation and tuning (continuously takes readings from the exhaust sensors), which adapts dynamically to conditions (temp, humidity, altitude, etc.) and so you can get a flash that works for all bikes and configurations (e.g., exhaust and filter changes) of a particular model. Besides more delivering more/unrestricted power, they provide earlier exhaust-valve opening, better idle, faster QS shifts, rev limiter increases, etc. It costs most of $1000 but totally transforms the bike.

Love this series, always learning something new. great production, script and presentation!

Hi guys. I had a k7 gsxr. Around 6 months after buying the bike was invited back to the garage in London where I had purchased my bike to meet the chef engineers about bike set up and help with R and D. Not sure if ECU's across the pond are different? But hear in the UK power commander's don't make a massive difference. In fact on this particular model the euc is already set up for this particular model. Was told by chief engineer from Japan not to waist money on a PC. As they are generally a con. Saying this did fit a power commander 4 to my honda sp1 which helped' smoother throttle control at lower revs. After re map a whopping 5hp. Goes to show a waist of £250 for 5hp. Smooth throttle control worth it. Like I say I know you're bikes are set up different and your cars because your emmission requirements are lower than ours.

This was perfect timing Revzilla! I've been on the fence on whether to get a power commander or just get the flash on my R1 and now Ari drops this vid! Def think I'm going with the pro flash and mail it out. Especially now in NJ with all this damn snow my bike has a little bit of downtime unfortunately.

Seriously love watching your videos man helps me Soo much bro

Awesome new set. Can't wait to see more episodes - and I hope that we can expect them more often as well :)

PC5 doesn't do much. The O2 sensor in the stock system (closed loop) nullifies most of your fueling changes. Woolich Racing flash seems to best way to go, but it's close to $500 bucks. Send it to Moore Mafia.

love the set so far. looks nice!

Great work as always, love this kind of videos.So much useful information in one place ! Gg Ari, Gg Revzilla

Nice to see ya back on KZfaq Ari, long time no see.

Definitely interested. Just got a GSX650F, and it surely is no monster. Sounds and rides great but I definitely want to bump up the 85hp.

Nicely put, Ari! 👏🏽

The video we’ve all been waiting for.

Great info Ari. Nice detailed breakdown of the two options and how they differ. What's your preferred option? 🤔🏍️

2:46 that's honestly the best way I've heard these two types of ecu tunes explained. Great job.

Very well explained topic. Well done.

Awesome video and great explanation. Thanks🤙

Great basics vid! Depends on the type of bike, pros & cons for each. For PC good if mods done Vs coming, & warranty. Piggy backs give you the option to continue to amend, start w/ pipes, but later add a cam, can change w/ no additional $. Also, new bike under warranty, if you have a piggy back & something goes wrong, you can go back to stock, flash is static & dealer may argue to void. Beyond the 2 options Ari mentions, Smart tuners w/ Autotune go further, sensing your elevation, temps, adjusting. & better than both a flash or PC, a true ECU replacement like a Thundermax Autotune. No piggyback, dyno tunable, larger O2 sensors than factory, then Autotune out of previous maps, revert back to old map at any time. V&H is simplistic Bluetooth option, quickly changeable in app, but limited, uses factory O2

Nicely explained sir. As an aside, anyone noticed that long established models that are tweaked to Euro5 tune are returning poorer MPG than previous Euro tunes? Point being that making a bike use more fuel seems counter intuitive to emissions endeavours (California).

A comparison on benefits between the two would've been a huge help.

please more content on re-flashing, tuning etc..

Please ,keep on bringing episodes like these with ari

Great explanation guys! Thank you

TBH, the cost of EFI mods always makes me appreciate carburetors for their budget-friendly-ness. They can be fussy, and come with their own issues/learning curve. But you can re-tune carb(s) for $50, a shop manual (!) and some basic tools, and have $250-300 left for your other mods.

Great editing on this one

Very informative thanks for sharing.

2:22 amazing how they've developed so much and so well

Had a Power Commander on my R3 and it still has throttle response issues. Once I flashed the ECU and removed the Power Commander, it ran like a dream. I also flashed my 2014 Yamaha Bolt when I installed a full exhaust and intake and the throttle response was butter smooth. Just wanted to put my input. Hope this helps.

Just wanna say, loving the feel of the PCV on my 16' ZX6R. Can tell the difference night and day and finding the tune was easy enough. Only chose the PCV over an equal flash because if I wanted to change my flashed settings, I'd have to remove the ECU everytime and have it sent out compare to just plugging the laptop in the garage to the PCV

Thanks for another helpful video

California: "NO MORE FUN OF ANY KIND!" Ari: "May I have ten thousand marbles, please?"

Top job! great info.

Thanks for your video. Well done!!!

Love that you have an R6 as background with this topic 🤣🤣

Super helpful video. Thanks

thank you for explaining

Thanks for this video, Trying to decide ??

Ari, thanks for the video. Can one gearthese options improve low speed/low rev engine response making the bike less jerky in below 20 Mi/h? I have a 1999 VFR800 that I very much like my major complaints are the engine response under 20 Mi/h (school zones) and how hard the clutch can get if I get stuck in traffic for a long time. Appreciate the videos! I wish you continued success.

Nicely done👍

The end had me chuckling.

Vcyclenut flashed my fz09...best $250 I’ve ever spent

Glad to see you back in front of a camera!

So glad to see you and Zach doing what I loved with what used to be a stellar mag. That subscription renewal died long ago. Go Revzilla and screw Cali (govt side that is).

I am surprised that you didn't talk about TuneECU. You download (and can adjust) tunes, and the app (on your phone even), can perform diagnostics, calibrate the speedo, help sync throttle bodies, etx

A professional re-flash is the way to go! It (which wasn’t mentioned) can be re-set to factory settings if required... 👍😎🇦🇺

Thank you!

I've recently read that clearing the stock ecu's tune and using a Power Commander 5 with an Autotune is the best way to get the most power out of some bikes. The Autotune added to the PC 5 allows the tuner to give parameters for the PC 5 to keep the bike in when there are atmospheric changes. Fact is, not all bikes have O2 sensors, one of which is my 03 R1, therefore adding the O2 and Autotune seems to be the best for my situation.

That R6 though 😍

That was amazing 👌

Flash are better for performance as you can remove all limiters. Most bikes doesn't give 100% gas then given 100% as ecu is limited. Power commander doesn't remove this limiters and usually just give 1-3hp and is mostly over 500$ for almost nothing. I would go for a full ecu flash with all limiters removed.

ECU Flash for me was awesome

Thanks and now I’m educated 🤙🏼

love the vids man!

I have a 2006 VStrom dL 1000 bone stock. I installed a “Booster plug” and that was a big improvement. Would flashing my ECU be another improvement? Bike runs great as it is but I’d like a lil more out of it.

Had a dynojet piggyback module in my 2012 S1000RR that thing made me run on 2 out of 4 cylinders every 800-1000km's or so had to keep changing spark plugs and what not. Removed it in the end never ran smoother

my weekend is complete (:

Very informative

Went with DIY and bought Woolich with the logbox to measure AF ratios with a wideband sensor. Seems much better, but gas mileage has gone down. So...

Can you also change the ignition timing on other things like fireworks?

That's cool I did not know he had an identical twin. It's also cool that they have the same interests

I have a xtz1200 with a flash and a PCV. It runs great. Did I waste money by adding the PCV? Would Autotune do me any good?

Excellent video. :)

Will the power commander work if I already have a quick shifter that is already piggybacking of the coil pack?

How common is it to have both a flash and a power commander? Also what's the benefits/drawbacks?

best bike channel on this planet maybe this universe

If you guys read this i just want to ask this Which one is better? Rapid bike or power commamder?

Ari i am currently facing a problem of fork oil leak due to a scratch please make a video on various reasons of leak and how to i can repair that scratch PLEASE

Hi I have a question would it be worth me reflashing my ecu on my stock hayabusa , I’m putting this engine in my dune buggy, how much power gain is there and reliability ? Thank you for the video

How does a flash tune work if let’s say the bike has rider modes like on my 2020 super duke r,,,can you specifically tune one of the rider modes? And then leave the others alone? And is that the same with a power commander?

Please make video for wire assembly for spoke wheel

I'll go tell my wife that we need a CBR600RR now that I understand the difference :o) As always, the clearest, no BS explanation on a topic in the shortest amount of time, free of crappy music overlay. Been following you from the beginning of my MC journey, glad to find you over here at Revzilla, Ari.

When installing a power commander do I need to Dyno tunes my bike? I am still new to all of this.

Is it possible to install both and if so will there be a huge gain I'm asking because I have a raptor 700 and a trx 700xx I would like to try it on