JP vs gief is doable. Just need 2 or 3 combos. SF4 was much worse for gief.

​@@yesxplain5965here we go with the B.S. 😂

​@@interceptingfist5682He has a point, to be fair. Gief didn't have Drive Rush to deal with zoners in sf4, just his overrated Green Hand. I'd rather deal with JP or SF6 Guile over sf4 Sagat or Guile any day. The dude you replied to wasn't being a "sf4>sf6" guy, he was just stating facts

@@chapapa-papa Green Hand overrated yet it didn't return in SF5 or SF6 LOL.

@@chapapa-papaHe has no point. It is one of his worst matchups. Saying a matchup is “doable” means nothing. Every matchup is “doable” lmfao

Right? A lesson on being patient. 99 seconds is a long ass time. And no matter how much time and effort it took to get in on JP, the round never ended by timeout. And there's definitely a life lesson in that.

@@TMNTfeveryup and meanwhile he was getting spiked, battered and bruised but he kept advancing little by little not giving up

For real. Nothing helped me improve like watching Snake Eyez and Idom working their spacing like they do.

Snake is no stranger to 5-0 reverse OCV's, just ask Norcal :V

Why ate spoilers on top!!! Stop spoiling and stop liking the spoiler to get it to top comment. I click video to enjoy the content and 1st thing I see is 5-0 from snake eyes. Wtf

@yami-kay9099 I didn't know this shit was gonna get 325 likes, my b. In my defense tho: if you don't wanna be spoiled, hard ignore the comments. Otherwise you just asking for it.

@nugzmedallion8929 I did. This is literally under the video, so as I watch the video. That 1 comme t is there ruining the vid but it's not all you. These people liking it forced it up top so whoever watching now, k ows the outcome before it starts

@@yami-kay9099 watch it before going to the comment section, thats your own fault

TBF the top 8 had 1 JP , 1 Ken , 2 Juri's 1 Luke , A Gief and a Rashid lol.

​@@F.Hakeem89Thanks for the stats, that's very cool to know.

@@tomkrawec No Problem.

Tbh not fussed, don’t think Ken’s been top tier in over 10-15 years

​@@BrowneVisualsits mostly the saltiness from the kend in bronze through gold in sfv

Buff Zangief when?

@@tarantulathree-one8013 try a search. Already made it

I think the new mechanic really helps Gief out. In sfv he'd already have lost 1/3 or more of his health chip damage from blocking or gray health from vskill armor by the times he's able to get in from all the zoning.

Indeed! He is Snake Guy 😝

What tournament was this .

@@nashhenry9314read the video title

LEGEND.

yea this is up there

I only played the two CBTs and even I know how hard it is to beat JP. The recent tournaments showed how tough it is to deal with his zoning game. Snake is just on a whole different level. Other Giefs would most likely be blown away.

​@GeminionRay True and Snake would have had a much harder time against a top Jp like Kakeru.

I think Guile and Luke are harder for Zangief than JP

Nah it didn't look easy at all

​@@rexflores8461What about Dhalsim?

I remember first seeing him make a statement with orange pants Gief in ST HD Remix, he won EVO 2010 for that. I think he preferred ST, but then learned SF4 because of the competitive direction.

didn't he change to shoto during SFV?

Immaculate is the word I was looking for. Every move at it's best range. NO MERCY, NO REMORSE!

I was so hyped watching it live, NO MERCY NO REMORSE!

Here! Here!

Cheers 🥂

“For all my loyal fans!”

🔥🔥🔥

Real talk 🤟🏽🤟🏽🤟🏽🤟🏽

Or a Ryu

I do the same with Ryu. A lot of matches end early too. I’m not keeping in mind there’s 90 seconds.

The game isn’t even a year old…. Let this sink down.

With the worst character in the game🤣🤣🤣

@@Paris.Malaga Lily??

⁠@@SilverShionno,zangief.

@@dontworryaboutit5490Lily is infinitely worse lol

lily has wind stocks and options to force her way in as well as big buttons with a command grab. She is def better than gief at least@@acecun6202

yeah nothing will beat this. The odds are just too great and he was down so much.

Caba vs Punk top 8 @ CEO.. another hall of famer.

Exactly. Gief players know how hard this is, yet non-Gief players like to lecture that it's "doable". I'm platinum 4 too.

As a diamond gief, it is certainly a tough matchup, but don't use that as an excuse, use that as a reason to spd jp even harder, best of luck comrades

​@@lukeblaker8009- Not an excuse no, the match up is still fun, especially when you bag a win. Just saying it's in JP favour - because Gief cannot afford to burnout and lose parry, whereas playing an opponent in burnout is no different to usual for Gief.

@@lukeblaker8009 I never say it's an excuse. But it's a clear fact for Gief that he needs to work super hard to beat JP. And btw, i have four characters at Diamond (Ryu at Diamond 2, Lily-Marisa-Luke at Diamond 1) so i know how hard the matchup against JP with other characters as well.

I think Ita could get in, but we'll see.

@@UFACILita is good but bro mashes level 3 on wakeup, block or hit whenever he has it, he plays a bit more braindead than snake, which idk if rhat can win you a tour in japan but who knows

​@@bigjc5546no it cant, ive watched him play against daigo and daigo kinda just whoops his ass

@@z1u512yea thats kinda what i thought would happen tbh

You were right 😂

He's been kicking ass on Guilty Gear as potemkin for a while

Because crapcom nerfed(very unnecessary) zangief to the ground. He went to games where people are not little b1tch3$ about playing against a grappler.

​@@MsRafael345You're NOT talking about Guilty Gear LMAO

Need the green hand back.. 😢

@@akarapongboonrat9338 He doesn't need greendhand, he needs a real reversal, oki and the ability to actually stay in on someone after landing an SPD.

@@ramijackson3978 Why would you want Zangief to have the ability to stay in after landing an SPD? With as much damage as they incur, that would make him top tier.

@@ramijackson3978 tell me you only started playing Street Fighter with SFV without telling me you only started playing Street Fighter with SFV.

​@@PGO_Gamingbecause he would be broken or they would have to nerf SPD damage

@@GamingCentralTV1 Only Gief's EX- Lariat should hit people from behind. He should have to pay with meter in order to anti-air that effectively. Forget the extra move and keep the damage. That makes every match with Zangief nerve-wracking, and that is the way it should be.

Maybe instead of calling for nerfs focus up and improve like Snake Eyez. We not getting a balance patch for a whiiiile, and fortunately the game is in a state where anyone could win and the most represented character Ken is also just the most popular character

Snake is also a pro player, and yeah it was a hard thing to do, but that only talks of the caliber of player snake is and grief is in desperate form to get some buffs.

@@Amaling snake eyez is in the top top top percentage of fgc players who also so happens to play a low tier character. there are few characters in the game that can carry a new to mid level player much further than the rest, one of those being jp. to say the average player needs to focus up is dodging the fact that jp does need nerfs of some kind, as does the other top 4 or 5 characters. if you play any fighting game, its a given that you would try to get better at it despite the obvious disparity in character balance. you cant tell everyone to ignore the glaring issues of certain characters and to simply get good like the pros.

I feel like people going "Zangief doesn't need a buff, just look at Snake Eyez" forget that Snake Eyez has historically always been a Zangief player. He was famous for it in 4, famous for it in 5, and is hella famous for it in 6. He can't be used asa reference; he was going to find a way to make Zangief work no matter what and if the expectation is that players just commit the same time and effort to achieve similar results, that is simply unrealistic. Zangief needs buffs. I wouldn't say it's the weakest he's ever been, but you FEEL the absence of Green Hand and Flex Parry.

He already said he doesn't want to, he's a OG slow grappler player and tier lists be damned hes gonna play them anyways

@@z1u512 I know. I just like seeing him up there in some of these majors. If he can do it with Gief only everytime im on board of course lol

Sorry but its not about abusing characters, those you mentioned are easy to play. The problem is that people don't want to struggle to play the game, and that's what playing with zangief awful tools is, struggling all the time.

Speaking to a Gief main here Comrade lol always been a anti meta kind of player myself. Hate using the popular cheese gods lol

You’re really reaching bro. Snake eyes hasn’t hit top 8 in ANY of the three majors held for SF6.

Yea cause Snake Eyez is constantly saying on his own streams that Zangief isn't competitive in tournaments, and pointing out every single flaw he has while playing lol

Juri ain't even good lmao.

Its admirable for sure, but you're projecting a bit too much meaning, let people pick what they want even if its just for winning lol

@@quarium5681 I don't care who players pick. It's up to them. But when you pick JP, Ken, Luke, Guile, or Juri, YOU HAVE TO WIN YOUR MATCHUP. No excuses. You can't say you are at a disadvantage. When a player picks the worst character (generally speaking) in the game, and wins a major tournament, he gets ULTIMATE respect. When you win a tournament with one of those 5 that I mentioned, you are a good player, but you SHOULD win. Reynald should be embarrassed for getting 3-0d in that second set. I don't care that it was Snake Eyez on the other side.

@@PGO_Gamingsnake eyez is just himoty, reynald shouldn't be embaressed for shit, he got second in a capcom tour tournament, when you do that, you'll be able to tell people that they are trash, until then, foh with that bullshit

correction: SEz makes me want to buy this game and learn to play Gief.

Nemo in shambles rn