This was fantastically useful. I've watched quite a few reviews of this system, but they only touched on maybe half of what you guys did. Thanks a bunch for the info!

This is the only review of it that matters. No one breaks down stuff as well as you guys.

In regards to the reduction of flashing images, they were likely removed to pass Nintendo's lot check guidelines. When I was QA over at Sega, several VC games and some Wii titles were flagged for flashing images due to seizure concerns. I noticed that the sword strike during the Ninja Gaiden attract mode was removed and I can say with 99% certainty that it was due to the games failing lot check.

Wow the sound delay, it's very noticeable. No you are not crazy!

This is pretty much the best review for the NES classic!! Seriously, I *love* the little details you guys put into your videos :)

You guys are simply amazing. I hardly want to watch any other KZfaq channels now due to how professional you guys are. Now all I want is more of this RGB Master Class series for like, every console ever. Since I've gotten a Framemeister, you guys have helped me a lot in getting the best picture out of my retro games. Keep up the amazing work.

I can always count on MLG to deliver the best assessment and reviews. Thanks for all the great videos.

Was waiting for this episode ever since the NES Mini was announced. You guys rock!

Great Ep. on this NES Classic. One of the best deconstructions of this unit I've seen. A+ work!

The production values, and engineering talk on all your videos is stellar. Consider me a subscriber, and a watcher for as long as you keep uploading! Great work!

Thank so much for this review. I like that you went into the technical details of the nes Classic and compared them to the original and fpga consoles.

Great video guys. I love everything about your channel, right down to that intro song. My only gripe is the 2 weeks between videos, the waiting kills me 😂

This is the best breakdown of the NES Classic I have seen so far! Great job, guys. I'm definitely going to subscribe

Everything was "ok" up until the sound delay. Yikes! @_@'

AWESOME! This should be required watching for anyone pissed they missed grabbing one of these.

This was the review I was waiting for. Good to know what to expect when I finally track one down.

Thanks for addressing the sound differences. These videos focus so much on visuals (which is good) but one feedback would be to address audio in more depth as well :) Thanks!

Great video as always. I'm glad to see you guys were able to get your hands on one of these.

This shows theme always lifts my spirits :) Great review guys!!!

This video doused my desire for this evasive unicorn. Thank you.

I love your theme song, there is something very nostalgic/ sad about it. Absolutely amazing. And your videos are awesome too.

Always love seeing these educational videos from you guys! Keep up the excellent work!

Been waiting for this, one of the only videos on NES Mini worth a watch!

Awesome videos as always. Can't believe you guys don't have 500k subscribers

Really interesting video. I've been playing mine since release and thought all the games looked great and played great, so I was genuinely expecting nothing but praise. How wrong I was! Really enjoyed seeing your comparisons to original hardware and other emulation methods, as it's not something I can do myself, except for Wii U VC which I thought was fine until I got this! I'll have to give it a few days before going back to playing on it, so hopefully I don't notice all the things you have pointed out 😀

Answered my questions. Awesome video guys!

I was waiting for patiently for this video. Thank you

Nice work guys! Thanks Wes for letting them use your system!

I am quite surprised about how this channel does not have a lot more subscribers

So awaited review... yeah! finally you did it guys!

The NES Classic Edition is hacked, you can add the whole NES library Also the epilepsy filter can be switched off, so there wil be no blurring when you see a in game flicker. There is also an option to use a button combination (down + select) to go back to the main menu

Great video was looking forward to this one, worth the wait! and yes we can hear it..... wow

Fantastic video, as always. Keep up the great work!

Great video. Been waiting for it since the release of the mini.

I was looking forward to this video. Thank you!

First of all! Congrats. I bow to your videos and RGB series! Would be great to see one about the SNES Classic and the Mega Drive Classic (apparently there seem to exist several editions ! Which one the best!

Nice video! I thought it was cool how you put up the sharpening filter to reveal how much noise there was.

Great review, guys! As usual. Very even handed. I can understand why some people with expansive collections and various HD setups (RGB, AVS) give this thing a hard time (not that you did) but, but for people like me who've only recently been able to put time and money into game collecting and AV improvements, it's a great way to play the games, and very convenient. Of the 25 NES carts I own (mostly my childhood collection), only six are on the NES Classic. Besides, I froze my butt off getting one at launch lol.

Best review of NES Classic around, by far.

Thanks for another great video guys!

Very good analysis. Great work!

Great work guys. Top class production and very in depth. Always look forward to your content.

Finally video from you guys! :D

The sound lag is actually a bit of a deal breaker for me.

Most underrated retro themed channel on YT.

Always love your videos guys. Awesome job.

Finally a good video on this system! Love you guys.

Great video guys. Keep up the good work

Well done, thanks guys!

Thank you, this is what I have been looking for.

This intro is so epic !

Something is severely off with the noise channel on the NES Classic. No reviewer until now pointed this out which drove me mad. Thanks for the thorough analysis guys!

Great job guys!

Amazing video like always :D

Phenomenal job as always!

I appreciate you emphasizing the point of input lag by selecting and inserting a Seiken Densetsu 3 cartridge - as much as I like that game, it really emphasizes style over controls ^^;

Great review!

Love the channel guys! When is the SNES classic edition video coming out?

This is the best review of this system so far.

Superb review! The Classic NES looks awesome on display, good thing too since I forgot how much I didn't care for the 8 bit era of games XD Bring on the SNES!

Always good stuff!

Best review for the NES classic guys!!! Please do the retrobit generations!!

always interesting to see the options for games.

Awesome video, exactly the questions no other channel answered. The sound mix is pretty disappointing for me, input lag is not an issue because I'm not good enough anyway.

The Raspberry Pi Retropie option runs Circles around this console. Besides the fact you can choose the RGB color Palette the NES classic Uses, you can even use a NES Classic Theme for the Frontend on the Raspberry Pi. and the emulation is superb even if it's not original hardware. Amazing Video!

I love the power up sounds that's a nice touch good vid I will be receiving my nes mini soon I hope think I'll get it this time maybe next year we'll get a snes classic edition or n64👍.

I have been waiting for this review since the NES classic was announced.

great videos guys !

Still looks amazing sitting on the shelf.I normally play my nes games on my av famicom on my ol crt.

nice!!! keep up the good work!

I love that intro music!

I finally got one from GameStop. I had to pre order it last week. They came out last week on July 20th.

It's a shame MLiG never did a video on the NES Classic when hacked :( This one was really great though!

That sound delay was noticeable in your presentation. I think that would bother me, with the input lag... the AVS system is still looking like my pick since I have a good library of carts and possibility of getting more games. Thanks MLiG!

Best review of nes classic!

"Nintendo has always prided themselves on the accuracy of emulation on the Virtual Console service" NO THEY DON'T! The ending to Ninja Gaiden is glitched on Wii VC (castle remains intact). The input mapping oversteers causing racers to spin out for no reason in Mario Kart 64 (much like using some unofficial 3rd-party controllers on a real N64), the analog mapping uses translation that mucks up certain moves, like Link's magic-less sword spin in OoT, the resolution of N64 emulation isn't even close (double), and the Classic Controller Pro will disable the B button when you get fancy with the analog stick (I uploaded a video to my CZroe channel). Every time they improve an emulator to release a new game those improvements don't get ported back to previous versions, which is why you see the spinning N on some N64 games and not others. Sorry, but their VC has always failed to impress and has never been something to be proud of. Look at the stickers hiding their shame on the back of Classic NES Series GBA games: it covers mention of a 2p mode that still exists in the emulator. There's just WAY too much latency to be playable.

I love the intro song.

Потрясающе ! Теплые и детальные обзоры! Спасибо за открытие!

Funny thing is, I recently got this thanks to my sister who was able to grab a couple of NES Classic Editions on ebay at a good deal after finding out about the discontinuation, and I didn't really notice any input lag when I tried the thing out, at least not to the point where it would hinder gameplay for me. Actions were quick and responsive for me. Maybe it's probably because my TV can handle these kinds of things better than some others. (Probably helps that the HDTV that I have only outputs 720p and 1080i.)

15:28 It will ALWAYS be Mike Tyson or no punchout for me.

Thank you for posting this. I spent so much time trying to get one that I now feel like I wasted my time. I'll just wait it out. I might even pass on it. The sound and input lag will drive me nuts. I always felt something was up with Punch Out on Wii U when I couldn't beat Soda Popinski and with lag on the mini that just sucks. The hype left me when I saw these issues.

sick intro m8

Insertion Shots: 1:04 2:01 2:03 2:05 2:10 2:16 2:32 3:24 3:26 5:36 5:51 14:54

maybe that staticy fuzz noticed from sharpening the image is from some sort of feedback in the system itself, or maybe how it's powered

I think these mini consols are brilliant. I have taken them on caravan trips and to friends and family homes.

How about an emulation mini-series? Maybe introduce some filtering methods or scaler like HQ, Lanczos, SAI,SAL, phosphor etc.? I bet most people really don't know their specific effects ^^ After introducing the NES Mini Filtering-Methods it would be nice to have a small compendium at hand and I think you guys are the perfect fit for this topic :)

Awesome review! Please make one for SNES Mini. The emulation quality is much better. Without sound problems and the input lag is just 25ms more than the original SNES(around 70ms vs 95ms). Thats really good for emulation! Well done Nintendo, or better the french retro studio which designed the "Canoe" emulator for Nintendo!

This thing is definitely worth it for the ability to mod the console to put every nes game onto it

Good job guys

i can deff hear it!!

Where did you get that Phantasy Star graphic showing the characters from PS2,3, &4? 2:40

Have you look into the scene?? I read you can take off the epilepsy filter and a lot other stuff. I would like to know if you can only leave the scanlines without the composite filter, since is 720p it should look nice.

I still want one of these because, man, that's a lot of great games for the price. That audio lag is definitely there though and that would drive me nuts. I'm hoping the success of this encourages Nintendo to make an official multi-console someday. Like, their version of a Retron 5.

Some of the problems mentioned here can be fixed using the popular hack known as hakchi. Not only does this open up the ability to play more games than just the built-in selection, but it offers the ability to remove the epilepsy protection so those flashes run as intended, and change the way the CRT filter works so that you get a crisper image but still retain the scanlines. Also I don't personally own the NES classic, but I have modded my SNES classic to play NES games and I don't have any noticeable input lag. I don't know if that's an improvement in the SNES classic hardware/software, or the fact that I'm using a pc monitor with a 1ms response time (much less than you usually find on TV's), or both. Either way, though, that sound issue does still exist. I noticed the sword beams in Zelda 2 tend to make the noise just after the beam leaves the sword rather than as the stab motion occurs. I thought I was just misremembering the original and it was my imagination, but I'm glad you proved otherwise. It is a good option for those on a budget but there are better options out there as you guys have shown if price is not a barrier to entry. But if price is an issue, I'd argue this is better than running original hardware through composite, and if you don't own an original NES this is still good value for money especially now that it has been re-released and seems to be more readily available than before. If nothing else, it is definitely superior to the virtual console offerings and cheaper when you look at it in terms of price per game.

It could also serve as a preview of what NES VC will look like on the Switch. Hopefully they can knock a few frames off the sound lag there. Does the CRT display mode seem comparable to the one in Mario Maker?

I pre-ordered mine back in July & got it on release. Unfortunately it's a Xmas present so I have to wait till Xmas to play mine but I did start it up quickly just to be sure it's working, and I'm very happy with it. I do however need to buy a longer HDMI cable & I might try get one of the WII classic controllers to have a longer cable. ps. The console doesn't come with a plug. it was advertised that way so not sure if it's all of Europe or just Ireland that was hit like that.

does anyone know if these lag and scrolling issues are solved with the re-release version?

While I never noticed any sound lag maybe its due to me having Game mode enabled on my TV. There is input delay as well it is very noticeable with Punch Out because that game is impossible to beat on the NES classic Edition compared to emulation on PC and on actual hardware. I was able to beat Double Dragon II with no issues. Makes me wonder if you ran this thing through the Framemeister or converted the HDMI signal into component and then connected it to an old CRT TV that had component video inputs and hooked it up that way would improve the lag situation?

Is the NES Virtual Console different in America or something? Because I live in Britain, and the NES Virtual Console looked pretty good when I saw my brother was playing Kirby’s Adventure. It was sharp, and vibrant.

I think I rather get a retrousb AVS after seeing this. Nice video on this as well.