How to Make Art Pigments from Soil

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How to Make Art Pigments from Soil - Painting Tutorial

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7 жыл бұрын

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Learn about making pigments from soil in this tutorial with Canadian landscape artists Cam Forrester, Greg Hargarten, Paul Trottier, Roger Trottier, and Ken Van Rees. Watch as the Men Who Paint, make pigments from soil, bone and antler.
Since their formation in 2007, Men Who Paint have embraced plein air painting. Inspired by the work and adventurous spirit of the early Canadian painters, the group, until recently, has spent most of their painting time outdoors. Their travels have seen them at many Canadian locations, including Banff National Park, Ontario’s Algonquin Park, and Yukon’s Ivvavik National Park, Prince Albert National Park, Emma Lake, La Ronge and Cypress Hills.
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@flaviagoncalves8215 4 жыл бұрын

I'm just an amateur, starting in this wonderful world of Arts, but, make my own natural pigments is my dream and this video is fascinating. I will follow this channel to learn more about it. Thanks for sharing it with us. Best regards from Brazil.

@GregHargarten 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching Flavia!

@BombedByMe 4 жыл бұрын

it shows enough for me to know what to do so it was answering my "how" thanks

@GregHargarten 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching Woe

@jtbmetaldesigns 3 жыл бұрын

These earths and minerals are easy work. Wait until you try organic pigments like Phthalo blue and green and the quinacridones. Your arm will get T-I-R-E-D! Smaller particle sizes and much more surface area to deal with.

@gemstonetiles2 Жыл бұрын

Thank for making this beautiful video

@GregHargarten Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching! :)

@katheldridge8080 4 жыл бұрын

this is the sweetest thing! doesn't really tell me much, but it is endearing!

@Arianna632 4 жыл бұрын

Omg so beautiful !

@GregHargarten 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks Arianna!

@KathyBrooksArt 2 жыл бұрын

Fascinating, really enjoyed this.

@GregHargarten 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Kathy! :)

@artbykcappadona5166 4 жыл бұрын

I have dozens of tiny viles of powder pigments used in China painting. You mix it with oils and a tiny palette knife. This is how you make China paint. It doesn’t come in a tube. It’s a very specialized art. You make a palette of tiny piles of mixed paint. It lasts for months covered. When you need more you mix up more for just that color.

@marinakukso 4 жыл бұрын

what kind of oil do you mix it with?

@artbykcappadona5166 4 жыл бұрын

montcalm0 there are different oils. One called mixing oil has clove in it among other things. Keeps it from drying out. Other Oil has lavender in it. The paints remain wet until fired in a kiln. You paint them sort of like water colors. One layer at a time. Each layer is fired until you have a satisfactory look. Always leave your light areas unpainted till last because you can not paint light over dark, like water color.

@sailakleinestaarman5314 2 жыл бұрын

@@artbykcappadona5166 from where you get those oils?

@KatMa664 2 жыл бұрын

@@sailakleinestaarman5314 you have several suppliers. Look up China Paint suppliers. Ann Cline and several others.

@henkerfastwalker 4 жыл бұрын

I would like at visit and watch you all day long ! Sipping some tea ! Thanks

@GregHargarten 4 жыл бұрын

Haha, sounds marvelous! Thanks for watching! :)

@cliffdariff74 5 жыл бұрын

Didn't really tell us how...

@pseudolemon8272 2 жыл бұрын

what do you need to know? get soil through a filter, ground it with water, then mix it with acrylic medium.

@ooXChrissieXoo 29 күн бұрын

collect colored soil, stone anything that has color, dry it if it's damp, and get grinding. After you successfully grind them into fine powder, there's your pigment. You add different types of binder and grind them some more to make different types of paints.

@ahmadfadhli381 7 жыл бұрын

that looks fun!

@judithslawter372 3 жыл бұрын

Makes me think of boys playing in dirt😂😉. Fun to see.

@GregHargarten 3 жыл бұрын

Haha, Thanks for watching Judith! :)

@dshe8637 5 жыл бұрын

Best to wear face mask when dealing with powders like these

@CubicApocalypse128 4 жыл бұрын

If you can even get one...

@Jojo_Flake 4 жыл бұрын

They cut off oxygen if you wear it for a very long time maybe a electric one will do

@aoutsky 3 жыл бұрын

@@Jojo_Flake that's not true. You think 3M will sell masks that cut off oxygen? A lot of time, effort and research goes into designing masks. Don't spread lies about masks.

@Jojo_Flake 3 жыл бұрын

@@aoutsky well not all masks but some yes it limits oxygen and wearing it for a very long time can cause you pass out. I’m not spreading lies about masks but it’s true some masks do limit oxygen

@DCweldingAndArt 3 жыл бұрын

@@Jojo_Flake lol right...these men didn't need masks anyways. There are men men who use Band-Aids , and rubber gloves when they do dishes, And N95 masks outside in public..... And there are men who don't. Lol The ones who do would argue that they are also the men who die young. Only data doesn't seem to agree haha

@AB.926 10 ай бұрын

there is an easier way to make black, the same way asia has been making soot for kajal and sumi ink. With a lamp and collecting the carbon from the top of the flame, will also give the smoothest powder.

@GregHargarten 10 ай бұрын

Very cool, I'll need to try that! Thanks for the tip!

@maureenriggs4557 10 ай бұрын

Hi Greg, Really enjoyed watching your process in crafting your pigments from various and earth matter. Ive been making my own pigments for years now and am being asked more and more to facilitate workshops around my region in Australia. My main aim in commencing my journey was to ditch synthetics sold to us in single use plastic containers. Could you tell me why you go to all the trouble of creating your beautiful natural pigments only to make paint with an acrylic binder please? Thanks

@GregHargarten 9 ай бұрын

Hi Maureen, our aim was to learn and experience making the pigments. Being a painter with a background in acrylics, the gel was the first thing that came to mind for me to use as a binder. The others used a variety of different binders. In future projects I think I'd like to try something more natural. What have you found works best or what could you suggest?

@k.k8791 2 жыл бұрын

Satisfying process i use electric grinder it does a great job i really recommend it

@howlingwind1937 2 жыл бұрын

What kind of grinder is it? Would a blender do the job or does it need to be a different kind of grinder?

@k.k8791 2 жыл бұрын

@@howlingwind1937 it's a laboratory mill all metal and stuff..look it up the brand is "tower" i don't know if it's the best or not but it gets the job done with no problem..i haven't put in it a very hard rocks btw

@howlingwind1937 2 жыл бұрын

@@k.k8791 oh thanks yeah I'll look it up. Cheers!

@GregHargarten 2 жыл бұрын

Yes, an electric grinder would be very helpful! :) Thanks for watching!

@k.k8791 2 жыл бұрын

@@GregHargarten what i can say am a genius 😎

@raeanntheartist6393 2 жыл бұрын

Hi, great video! My client brought back some different colors of ochre from France to paint her house. I’ve never used ochre before or any sort of pigment like this. Would you recommend the process that you showed and adding it to acrylic paint? I’m going to play around with it but I am clueless and having fun with using a new technique. Thanks so much!!

@GregHargarten 2 жыл бұрын

Hi Raeann, I've never used ochre either, so I'm not sure if this would work or not. Can't hurt to try! :)

@wildcreatrix12 4 жыл бұрын

Also what are you adding to the pigments? What golden product?

@GregHargarten 4 жыл бұрын

Hi Ashley, once you have the pigments ground to a very fine powder or paste, you need to add them to a medium. I used Golden Open Transparent Gel, you can also use egg tempura, GAK 100 or any other medium.

@alexandrabalaoura6714 6 жыл бұрын

Reaaally relaxing 😌

@howlingwind1937 4 жыл бұрын

Maybe this is a silly question, but, can you use the stuff you can get from the hardware to colour cement? I think they're different coloured oxides. Cheers from Australia!

@GregHargarten 4 жыл бұрын

I don't know much about cement colouring, it could work.

@howlingwind1937 4 жыл бұрын

@@GregHargarten thank you, just thought I'd ask, just incase someone has tried it already, I'll get some and see what happens, you all looked like you were having fun. Thanks again for sharing. Cheers!

@gavinjenkins899 2 жыл бұрын

If it says on the package it's a mineral oxide, it should almost certainly have no fading. The pigments infamous for fading rapidly are vegetable ones. Some fade within mere days or even hours like beet juice or berries. Some will last months or some years like madder, indigo, or weld, but will still fade a lot compared to minerals. Some complex more delicate mineral pigments fade too, but basic oxides are some of the most stable compounds around and are almost always completely permanent.

@howlingwind1937 2 жыл бұрын

@@gavinjenkins899 thank you for replying, that great I didn't know that, with the vegetable or fruit dyes do they still fade even when they've been fixed with vinegar or salt or whatever. I'm quite excited to explore my new options and have always wondered how paint was made. Thank you.

@wildcreatrix12 4 жыл бұрын

I am curious, the tools used to grind down the powder into pigments at 3:32 in this video. What is that called and where do you get them?

@GregHargarten 4 жыл бұрын

Hi Ashley, these are called a pestle and mortar. You can buy domestic versions that will work on Amazon.

@michaelhemmingartist 3 жыл бұрын

I think the equipment you're asking about is the muller. You can buy a glass muller and slab online. Some people use a granite slab which you can get in home stores. The pestle and mortar is for the initial grinding to reduce the material to finer particles ready for mulling. I can thoroughly recommend experimenting with making your own pigments.

@fedorbutochnikow5312 3 жыл бұрын

@@michaelhemmingartist and was that water added for the mulling process? or was it some other liquid?

@michaelhemmingartist 3 жыл бұрын

@@fedorbutochnikow5312 I'm not sure Pedro, it wasn't my video, sorry ☹️ When I grind pigments I sometimes add water in the grinding stage but usually it would be a drying oil at the mulling stage 😊

@FeeldahVibe1 6 жыл бұрын

I wonder how these would of done with linseed oil or some type of water soluble oil.

@GregHargarten 6 жыл бұрын

I can't see why linseed oil or water soluble oil wouldn't work.

@zezinharias 5 жыл бұрын

Water soluble... oil?

@ohaunnameyer2185 5 жыл бұрын

@@zezinharias right? I thought all oil was not water soluble lol.

@fionaweedon6432 6 жыл бұрын

Great vídeo!

@GregHargarten 6 жыл бұрын

Thanks fiona!

@howlingwind1937 5 жыл бұрын

Loved the video, and you all seemed to have fun making the paint! How long would it last on a canvas before fading or will it it crack and fall off? Thank you for sharing. Cheers!

@GregHargarten 5 жыл бұрын

Hi! Since the pigment is suspended in the medium (in my case Golden Gel) I can't see why it would be any different then any other acrylic paint. It shouldn't crack, or fall off. As far as fading goes, I don't believe that soil fades.

@howlingwind1937 5 жыл бұрын

Greg Hargarten what a dill I am! You are so right soil doesn't fade! So I'll get some gel medium and have myself some fun too! I really did enjoy the video, I know that one was a while ago, do you think you'll put out any more? Cheers from Tasmania!

@GregHargarten 5 жыл бұрын

Some of the others used egg tempura and Gac 100 as mediums as well. So glad you like the video, I'm making more all of the time, but recently I've been more focused on plein air painting adventures!

@howlingwind1937 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for replying to my message, I shall look forward to finding more of your videos, I'll try mixing the free range pigments with the other mediums also. Thanks again for sharing. Cheers!

@k.k8791 2 жыл бұрын

Note: earth pigments are extremely lightfast so you should worry about the colors that you already have

@TheRedhawke Жыл бұрын

Thank you for making this very inspirational video. What surface are you using to grind the materials on with the mueller ? I was thinking of trying a Granite tile I use for sharpening plane blades because it’s very hard and almost perfectly flat.

@TheRedhawke Жыл бұрын

Forgot to ask could you leave the gel out of a given section, allow it to crack for a texture and then somehow seal it ? Just a crazy idea that popped in my mind that I would really love to explore.

@GregHargarten Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching! We used glass for the surface under the mueller.

@GregHargarten Жыл бұрын

@@TheRedhawke You'll need some sort of medium for the pigment to be suspended in. I used the Acrylic Gel, but you can also use Egg Tempera, GAK 100 or any other medium.

@jhb61249 3 жыл бұрын

It appears to me that these guys are seasoned vets in what they are doing but not necessarily into lecturing or preparing speeches or lesson plans and simply assume the viewer comes with some background knowledge and experience, not a beginner arts person. They are doing what they do and what interests them. In an abstract way of thinking, making (mixing cement, water sand and gravel - binder and pigment/binder) and pouring concrete (applying mix to substrate) is painting. Oil (or any other) paint is equivalent to concrete but specific in its own way.

@GregHargarten 3 жыл бұрын

Hi James, Yes, this was one of the first videos I made and could use some narration to help explain what is happening. I'm hoping to make an updated version soon. :)

@lazykitten4356 7 жыл бұрын

Are you using Golden Gel Medium? Do you know if I can mix Gel Medium with natural clay powder (for example white Kaolin Clay) to create acrylic paint? Thank you very much!

@GregHargarten 7 жыл бұрын

Yes, I mixed Golden Gel with the soil and bone pigments and it work out well. I'm not expert as far as Golden products go, but it sounds like you're doing the same thing we did, so I can't see why it wouldn't work.

@lazykitten4356 7 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much. The video really helps. So the bone pigments are just another pigment, and it is not any binder, correct?

@GregHargarten 7 жыл бұрын

Yes, it was a pigment. We ground up antler and bone after we fired it and mixed it with the gel to make black and grey.

@lorjo_lovetopaint Жыл бұрын

Enjoyed this video but an explanation of what you are using to prepare the soil would have been nice....or is it top secret?😊😊😊

@GregHargarten Жыл бұрын

Haha, no not top secret, just one of my early videos. I think I need to revisit it with narration to help everyone understand the process. Sorry.

@lindamiller1921 Жыл бұрын

What was the Golden product that you were using on your palette?

@GregHargarten Жыл бұрын

Hi Linda, I mixed the ground soil with Golden Open Gel to use as a medium. Hope that helps!

@lindamiller1921 Жыл бұрын

@@GregHargarten Have you tried making alcohol inks with soil and 96+% isopropyl alcohol?

@GregHargarten Жыл бұрын

@@lindamiller1921 No, I've never tried alcohol inks at all.

@avidinartsartgallery1277 2 жыл бұрын

What is Golden? Can you tell me a little bit?

@GregHargarten 2 жыл бұрын

Golden is a brand of acrylic paint and mediums. www.goldenpaints.com

@spiritsgyre2021 2 жыл бұрын

I knew I shouldn't have clicked. Using antlers to paint? If you were aiming to be "primitive", you succeeded.

@GregHargarten 2 жыл бұрын

Haha, thanks I think?

@spiritsgyre2021 2 жыл бұрын

@@GregHargarten A rifle is not a painting tool.

@GregHargarten 2 жыл бұрын

@@spiritsgyre2021 The antler was found.

@joshuastarwalker 3 жыл бұрын

what is the white glue did you mix with the pigment (5:40)? Thank you!

@GregHargarten 3 жыл бұрын

Hi Ayako, that is Golden Acrylic Gel. I'm using this as a medium to make the soil into a paintable, spreadable paste. You can also use Egg Tempera, GAK 100 or any other medium. Hope this helps! :)

@joshuastarwalker 3 жыл бұрын

@@GregHargarten : Its a great help. Thank you for sharing 👍

@angelahershberger7071 5 жыл бұрын

What size sieve does the pigment pass through?

@nhw8906 5 жыл бұрын

Could you provide more details of the materials you're using for potential pigments then step by step of the process? As a novice like myself I can't understand very well the process? Thanks

@GregHargarten 5 жыл бұрын

Hi! Essentially we've used soil for pigments. They need to be ground down to a powder, mixed with water to make a paste and then mixed with a medium (Acrylic Gel, GAK 100, egg tempura or what ever you like) for painting. In some cases we've used found bone and antler which was heated in a fire, then ground into powder. Hope that helps.

@nhw8906 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks. But wasn't someone holding an animal tusk. What was that for? Thanks Again

@GregHargarten 5 жыл бұрын

That was a found antler which was heated and then ground up.

@GregHargarten 5 жыл бұрын

@@nhw8906 Yes, some of the antler turned black when heated in the fire and some remained white. We ground both. The white actually produced a greyish color when ground into a paste with the water.

@steveford5763 4 жыл бұрын

I enjoyed the video, but you are saying I can take any color dirt and sift and press it down like you did and get a pigment ? I do scale models and need a cheaper source of pigment...

@GregHargarten 4 жыл бұрын

Hi Steve, yes, that's what we did. We mixed the ground soil with different mediums. Some used GAK 100, some used egg tempura, and as you can see in the video I used Golden Acrylic Gel.

@steveford5763 4 жыл бұрын

@@GregHargarten thanks, I will give this a try....

@jagdishmoktan2469 7 жыл бұрын

what is that glass tool called to grind the pigment

@GregHargarten 7 жыл бұрын

muller: www.dictionary.com/browse/muller

@audreyn1996 6 жыл бұрын

glass muller

@mustafatemel1513 4 жыл бұрын

When applying pressure with round glass, do you crush the paint?

@GregHargarten 4 жыл бұрын

HI Mustafa, yes idea is to get the soil, bone or rock into a powder fine enough to mix with whatever medium you will use.

@jtbmetaldesigns 3 жыл бұрын

Nope this is a dispersion and wetting operation. The glass muller breaks up any aggregates and forces the liquids to wet the solids. In the beginning, the glass muller will want to stick to the glass plate. But as you get the dispersion more even, the muller will slide with less friction. Also, most of the gritty sounds will disappear. I love doing this, I need to resume

@ooXChrissieXoo 29 күн бұрын

looks a little silly (in a cute way) seeing them sitting together burning and grinding some antler for pigment.

@GregHargarten Күн бұрын

Thanks I think?

@Lupis179 4 жыл бұрын

HOW CAN I CLEAN MY TOOLS AFTER?

@GregHargarten 4 жыл бұрын

Hi Maria, if you're using soil as a pigment as in the video, you can clean them with water.

@Lupis179 4 жыл бұрын

@@GregHargarten thank you😄

@triciacamero8946 4 жыл бұрын

what did you add at the end part??

@GregHargarten 4 жыл бұрын

I used Golden Open Transparent Gel, you can also use egg tempura, GAK 100 or any other medium. :)

@fathimashihana6989 3 жыл бұрын

Are uou using pig for this

@GregHargarten 3 жыл бұрын

Pig? Not sure what you mean.

@nhw8906 5 жыл бұрын

Could you add the powder pigments without the acrylic gel as a dye for plaster of Paris? Are you selling the paints? Thanks

@GregHargarten 5 жыл бұрын

I don't really know much about plaster of Paris, but I think you might need some other sort of binder if you want it to be permanent.

@nhw8906 5 жыл бұрын

@@GregHargarten Thanks So Much. You have been very helpful.

@audreyli9535 3 жыл бұрын

will the paint dry out?

@GregHargarten 3 жыл бұрын

Hi Audrey, the paint dries similar to any paint using the same medium. (ie: if you mix the pigment with acrylic gel as I did, it dries like acrylic, if you use egg tempura it will dry like egg tempura and so.) Hope this helps. :)

@darkdogstudios 4 жыл бұрын

It’s an interesting subject, and nice to see you doing it, but it’s not a particularly instructional video ;) thanks anyway! :)

@GregHargarten 4 жыл бұрын

Sorry!

@aliturkmen6875 6 жыл бұрын

gooooooooooooooooooooooooood

@crystalsnap 4 жыл бұрын

Are those glass pestlex that you are using to further crush the pigment???

@GregHargarten 4 жыл бұрын

Yes. Also to make it into a paste to mix with whatever medium you'd like to use.

@crystalsnap 4 жыл бұрын

@@GregHargarten Thanks so much!!!

@jenjen9562 6 жыл бұрын

Hi there, what kind of water before you grind with muller?

@GregHargarten 6 жыл бұрын

We used regular tap water.

@BeingBeverly1 5 жыл бұрын

@@GregHargarten Wouldn't distilled water be better?

@GregHargarten 5 жыл бұрын

@@BeingBeverly1 we didn't use distilled water, but yes it likely would be better-no organic material to decompose. :)

@moonshinevessel 4 жыл бұрын

What is that glass thing he is using?

@GregHargarten 4 жыл бұрын

It's called a pestle. It's a heavy tool with a rounded end, used for crushing and grinding substances.

@jasonadamik2206 4 ай бұрын

It's not a pestle, as in 'mortar and pestle', which are usually made of porcelain or stone and most often used in pharmacies to compound medicines or in the kitchen to hand grind spices. The blown glass item is called a 'muller', as in 'to mull', like when we say the phrase, 'mull it over'.

@masashiisan 5 жыл бұрын

the music is so relaxing may i know the title of this.acoustic music

@GregHargarten 5 жыл бұрын

The song is called "Vermont Sunset" by Mad Music

@HippieHodler 5 жыл бұрын

I don't get it friend, how black then colors??

@GregHargarten 5 жыл бұрын

Hi John, I'm not sure what your question is?

@HippieHodler 5 жыл бұрын

I watch the video with the antlers you fired but where's the pigment come from to change color?

@GregHargarten 5 жыл бұрын

@@HippieHodler The red and yellow colors are soil.

@seanwarren9357 6 жыл бұрын

👍

@geostk3659 5 жыл бұрын

ok we all know how to make oil paint from pigments. Oil+pigment and some cases also plus a calcium carbonate. But how we can make an oil paint with a little bit heavy body like some oil brands out there. Thats the question for me and i can't find it anywhere. If anyone has an idea i will appreciated.

@GregHargarten 5 жыл бұрын

Sorry, I'm an acrylics guy. :)

@jennifergreenfield6996 5 жыл бұрын

Have you tried cold wax medium?

@fionaweedon6432 6 жыл бұрын

Why use natural pigments and the mix with Golden chemicals? Why not use natural product like Gum Arabic?

@GregHargarten 6 жыл бұрын

Some of the guys used egg tempura. For me, being a landscape painter, the project was about painting the landscape with the landscape so I wasn't concerned about keeping it 100% natural.

@kayagms 5 жыл бұрын

Hi can you answer questions about this video?

@GregHargarten 5 жыл бұрын

What would you like to know?

@kayagms 5 жыл бұрын

@@GregHargarten Hi, actually is not about the video. Anyways, will it work if i mix linseed oil and eyeshadow pigment, to make oil paint or the formula wont work for that?

@GregHargarten 5 жыл бұрын

@@kayagms Hi Kaya, I really don't know that much about linseed oil, but I would wonder if eye shadow pigment is permanent and light fast (will it break down of fade over time)?

@kayagms 5 жыл бұрын

@@GregHargarten That was exactly my concern, I've googled everywhere, I don't think anybody have tried this experiment. I have a bunch of eyeshadows that Im about to throw away and i had this idea. But i didn't want to spend weeks or month on a painting to ended up being ruined.

@GregHargarten 5 жыл бұрын

@@kayagms Not sure what to suggest. Sorry :(