Rich Food VS Poor Food

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Townsends

Townsends

29 күн бұрын

What’s the difference between Rich Food and Poor Food when the same ingredients are being used? What exactly is the dividing line between the two classes when it comes to the supper table? We try to find some answers in this episode.
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@DrLicuid
@DrLicuid 27 күн бұрын
I glanced at the preview with asparagus standing in a loaf of bread and my first thought was - "Happy Birthday!"
@righteousviking
@righteousviking 27 күн бұрын
I would be a sad 21st century American if I was given bread and asparagus instead of cake hahaha!
@faithrada
@faithrada 27 күн бұрын
​@righteousviking Actually the Asparagus "cake" would not disappoint here. I'll take Asparagus soup over Asparagus ice cream however. 😉
@Sorcerers_Apprentice
@Sorcerers_Apprentice 27 күн бұрын
@@righteousviking I would love it as part of a side dish for a nice birthday dinner.
@AdamtheRed-
@AdamtheRed- 27 күн бұрын
Worst. Birthday. Ever. Lol
@oldasyouromens
@oldasyouromens 27 күн бұрын
Yes, with hollandaise would be wonderful. ​@@Sorcerers_Apprentice
@robzinawarriorprincess1318
@robzinawarriorprincess1318 27 күн бұрын
We live near Andrew Jackson's home, the Hermitage. It is a super nice house, but it has a lot of construction fakery, such as wood columns painted with a sand mixture to look like stone. They also painted plain wood with grain lines to make it look like expensive wood.
@roberttalada5196
@roberttalada5196 27 күн бұрын
Yeah, I’m not surprised.
@sr2291
@sr2291 27 күн бұрын
"Rich" people have always been full of pretenses to make them feel they are better than the rest of us.
@Norbrookc
@Norbrookc 27 күн бұрын
@@sr2291 One of my cousins, who was fairly well-to-do but not "Rich" told me about moving into their new house. They were apologetic to the moving people because of all the furniture, and the movers told them not to worry about it, and that many of the 'upscale' houses in the area really didn't have much in the way of furniture. It was all about appearances.
@sr2291
@sr2291 27 күн бұрын
@@Norbrookc Thanks for sharing that.
@littlekong7685
@littlekong7685 27 күн бұрын
@@Norbrookc Yup, my grandmother did catering for rich families back int he day. Apparently she had to bring her own cutlery because most only had 1 set for each person living there, she also had to bring table cloths, serving dishes, and a bucket to wash dishes in because the sinks were fake (Sometimes the fridges were too). She would be working while rented furniture and rented lamps were brought in for the party. The family either lived in another house, or only in 1 room and went out to dinner nightly (And the 1 room they lived in had the cheapest most well worn stuff imaginable).
@davea6314
@davea6314 27 күн бұрын
18th century: Salmon is much cheaper than chicken. 21st century: Chicken is much cheaper than salmon.
@silverjohn6037
@silverjohn6037 27 күн бұрын
Yes and no. If you're close to the source salmon and lobster would be common but, inland, they wouldn't be available to even the wealthiest person. Likewise, before refrigeration and reliable steam powered transportation, even royalty couldn't expect fresh fruits and vegetables year round the way the poorest people can today.
@Kelnx
@Kelnx 27 күн бұрын
@@silverjohn6037 A lot of it had to do with tastes and attitudes too. All shellfish for the most part were seen as poor people food during the colonial era, not only because they were so plentiful but because of some social attitudes towards "bottom feeder" sea food (the primary exception being oysters which also got cheaper as popularity exploded). It also didn't help that, before the lobster industry took off, there were so many lobsters off the New England coast that piles of them would wash up on shore and just rot and stink. Not something that really added to their appeal.
@MrTeddy12397
@MrTeddy12397 27 күн бұрын
@@Kelnx i have heard that back in the day they first killed the lobsters before boiling, making them taste disgusting.
@mrjones2721
@mrjones2721 27 күн бұрын
@@MrTeddy12397Nowadays restaurants kill lobsters immediately before boiling. The kill isn’t the problem, it’s how long you wait after killing. If they were killing lobsters well beforehand, I question their common sense. Surely it’s easy enough to keep a lobster in a bucket of water until you’re ready to cook it.
@dividingpicnic
@dividingpicnic 27 күн бұрын
Chicken didn’t get cheap until post-WWII I think. One of the early 20th century presidents (Hoover?) campaigned with the slogan “a chicken in every pot”, which was supposed to suggest bringing luxury to everyone, because chicken was a somewhat fancy kind of food.
@jaydoggy9043
@jaydoggy9043 27 күн бұрын
"Purges by urine." - That might be my favorite description of asparagus ever.
@NoPantsBaby
@NoPantsBaby 27 күн бұрын
You know when you're REALLY rich? When the food isn't edible anymore. When you're just supposed to appreciate it as an art piece.
@blargghkip
@blargghkip 27 күн бұрын
Pineapples come to mind
@WaterZer0
@WaterZer0 27 күн бұрын
Someone is attending dinner with the Shogun.
@Chris-ut6eq
@Chris-ut6eq 27 күн бұрын
@@WaterZer0 Or certain roman emperors.....
@dziooooo
@dziooooo 27 күн бұрын
This is why I DESPISE cake covered in fondant. It's barely edible, and almost always the "art" is of the quality you'd expect from a 6th-grader playing with Play-Doh.
@Just_Sara
@Just_Sara 27 күн бұрын
@@blargghkip I heard the other day that people used to RENT pineapples, you too?
@katertran1718
@katertran1718 27 күн бұрын
It's so fascinating that the more complex dish isn't even considered the main dish, it's just a side. Crazy how different people were eating
@PySnek
@PySnek 27 күн бұрын
Yes but food back then was so much more than today. No TVs, no Smartphones, just a very small collection of books. You'd spend much more time thinking about food preparation and presentation than today, because it was one of the main attractions. Nowadays food has to be something that we can be done with as quick as possible or we eat while watching TV or KZfaq/streams.
@teneillesw.4312
@teneillesw.4312 27 күн бұрын
@@PySnek i mean we still make giant spreads at thanksgiving and Christmas. normally we're more like the poor people of times past haha
@TonyFontaine1988
@TonyFontaine1988 22 күн бұрын
​@@PySnekmaybe in the USA. Not in Europe
@sd-ch2cq
@sd-ch2cq 20 күн бұрын
It reminds me of 'instagram food', which is all about presentation
@floramew
@floramew 27 күн бұрын
This kind of video is why I love you guys. I mean, "just" focusing on the recipes themselves is interesting enough already, but I really love connecting bits and pieces of knowledge together, trying to get a more holistic view of things, and like you said, reading in between the lines and drawing cultural conclusions etc from the context -- absolutely fascinating, thanks so much.
@LookingBackwards
@LookingBackwards 27 күн бұрын
The quality of content and production in these videos is phenomenal. Don’t ever change, thank you for doing what you do
@Breitman123
@Breitman123 27 күн бұрын
Spot on!
@benjaminscribner7737
@benjaminscribner7737 27 күн бұрын
Our man Ryan once again wowing us with his knowledge. Another great video.
@workingguy6666
@workingguy6666 27 күн бұрын
Ryan is such a great presenter.
@aribantala
@aribantala 27 күн бұрын
I absolutely did not expect a crash course on "Diplomatic posturing", if one may forgive the term... And how the dining table was (and frankly is in many parts of the world) the place where you conduct diplomacy... Even if it's as simple as bonding a person to person relationship, or as grand as geopolitical correspondence. The inner, basic but fulfilling desire for food is such a strong force that it's really baffling that something as simple as "Making foods presentable" can forge the fate of Nations
@Vaeldarg
@Vaeldarg 27 күн бұрын
"Panda diplomacy" started that way. IIRC the story went that Ms. Reagan commented on the image of one on a pen of an official from China at a dinner. She said it was cute, and pandas were offered as a diplomatic gesture. Next thing you know, the U.S is turning a blind eye to human rights abuses otherwise have children crying over their zoo having to send back the pandas whenever the CCP gets upset.
@littlekong7685
@littlekong7685 27 күн бұрын
The entirety of the middle east's land borders were drawn after WW2 over dinner and handshake agreements. The strategists and experts made maps in conferences and with great debate, but all that was basically ignored because the men approving the lines made their own maps over dinner and wine.
@FruitMuff1n
@FruitMuff1n 27 күн бұрын
Ryan's solo videos are just getting better and better. Love it!
@sonipitts
@sonipitts 27 күн бұрын
Early Americans were really leaning into the "fake it til you make it" strategy. But in the end, we never lost the cultural impetus to obtain and maintain the appearance of wealth (or, more likely, what we *think* wealth looks like) regardless of our actual circumstances. Also...now I'm craving asparagus. 😆
@strongback6550
@strongback6550 27 күн бұрын
Should also be pointed out that many who didn't make it often turned to piracy and other forms of crime.
@silverjohn6037
@silverjohn6037 27 күн бұрын
Starbucks has made a fortune catering to that mind set. Their coffee isn't necessarily that much better than what you could brew at home but all the fashionable people have to buy the cup everyday to pose with rather than bringing a thermos to work.
@SRMC23
@SRMC23 27 күн бұрын
makes sense, it was a bunch of people being sent out or escaping from England to get a better jab at life, people wanted what the higher society had back in London or other big cities but they had to come by with what was around in the frontier.
@hrhtreeoflife4815
@hrhtreeoflife4815 27 күн бұрын
​@@strongback6550 😂 They made it through theft They didn't die of starvation
@aidansearle5023
@aidansearle5023 19 күн бұрын
They still do that don't they? Lol
@palaceofwisdom9448
@palaceofwisdom9448 27 күн бұрын
This vaguely reminds me of green bean casserole, taking a humble green veggie and elevating it to something remarkable.
@MC-810
@MC-810 27 күн бұрын
My favorite Sunday morning activity! A leisurely cuppa and Townsends.
@Grandwigg
@Grandwigg 27 күн бұрын
A side dish of a second course for one, the whole dish (meal?) for the other. Says a lot. This was an excellent video for sure.
@janemack8852
@janemack8852 27 күн бұрын
I wish you had tasted the bread with each. That seems an important ingredient.
@virongreene5146
@virongreene5146 27 күн бұрын
A history class with a cooking show mixed in....or do I have that backwards. As always, love the channel!
@maiabravo5978
@maiabravo5978 27 күн бұрын
This is the only channel recipe I've ever made myself. Loved it.
@jackknifer1
@jackknifer1 24 күн бұрын
I love this presenter, he has an air of tranquility around him. Lovely video, thank you
@tatalsaba
@tatalsaba 27 күн бұрын
Food showing class and social hierarchy is a very interesting subject, both abundance, type of dishes, ingredients, cooking method and utensils all play into it.
@gtbkts
@gtbkts 27 күн бұрын
Thanks for all the awesome content and great videos!
@SimpleDesertRose
@SimpleDesertRose 27 күн бұрын
We have asparagus growing in our garden this year. Come winter it should have been growing long enough to start harvesting crowns. I want to try this recipe. Most of my veggies I cook in butter, but this looks and sounds really good.
@deborahcaldwell9775
@deborahcaldwell9775 24 күн бұрын
You really cheered me up with this analitic explanation. Wonderful.
@Faceplay2
@Faceplay2 27 күн бұрын
Always love these videos!
@rikwilliams6352
@rikwilliams6352 27 күн бұрын
Fascinating, thank you for shareing.
@dmr6640
@dmr6640 26 күн бұрын
As always, I really like Ryan's topics and presentations. Keep em coming.
@christophermeister3706
@christophermeister3706 27 күн бұрын
Always love your insight talking about the why behind these things.
@hayeonkim7838
@hayeonkim7838 27 күн бұрын
Thanks for interesting and valuable video as always ❤❤❤
@KitsVlogLife
@KitsVlogLife 27 күн бұрын
Thanks Ryan...the way you explain the history of each dish makes me want to try them all the more. I also like asparagus and going to add this to my recipes.
@martykitson3442
@martykitson3442 27 күн бұрын
It looks like john has almost entirely handed the cooking over to you, good job Ryan🤠👍👍
@olddawgdreaming5715
@olddawgdreaming5715 27 күн бұрын
Thanks for sharing with us. We use to get our asparagus the same way in Colorado along side the roads. Thanks Ryan for showing the differences between the haves and the have nots. Stay safe and keep up the great videos. Fred.
@kellymurdock5982
@kellymurdock5982 26 күн бұрын
Coat asparagus in some olive oil, finely chopped garlic and sea salt. Let it sit for maybe a half hour and then grill it. Cooks fast and it is so good. Once I tasted it at a restaurant I never boiled again.
@LissyVee
@LissyVee 23 күн бұрын
I bought a bunch of asparagus the other day and I just cut it into pieces, put it in some hot oil in a skillet with S&P and cook it for 4 minutes but I also put fresh grated Parmesan over it when it’s done and it is SO GOOD.
@malcolmdarke5299
@malcolmdarke5299 23 күн бұрын
To be honest, "in fat with a bit of salt" is a top-notch way of cooking greens. It works well for courgettes, Brussels sprouts (I used a bit of cayenne for that one), leeks and apparently asparagus. I'd say that I don't understand why people don't like vegetables, but I do. It's that they haven't experienced vegetables cooked properly, which is a crying shame. Get your veggies fresh and prepare them simply. Let the flavours present themselves!
@jeffhampton2767
@jeffhampton2767 9 күн бұрын
I like butter and fresh lemon on my asparagus
@ethangrazier4899
@ethangrazier4899 27 күн бұрын
Love Ryan as a presenter! Same with the sourdough video. 10/10
@amel2784
@amel2784 27 күн бұрын
Excellent research and presentation. Thank you very much. 👍💯🏆
@veesimmons2464
@veesimmons2464 27 күн бұрын
For the love of asparagus! The fancy one does look divine, but I'd love the simple one just as much. Interesting video. I'd like to see more like this.
@KakavashaForever
@KakavashaForever 27 күн бұрын
Great stuff as always!
@JJW77
@JJW77 27 күн бұрын
Excellent enjoyable video - I love the interesting history and comparison of the two food groups...
@dianebondhus9355
@dianebondhus9355 27 күн бұрын
Mmm, you guys find the best recipes! Thanks for another top notch video. ❤
@SheyD78
@SheyD78 27 күн бұрын
Am I the only one tempted to mix those two piles of asparagus together to make it buttter, cream and egg asparagus?
@zenhydra
@zenhydra 22 күн бұрын
I love it. Thanks for the great video. I'm going to have to make a variation on the "rich" variation this weekend, and I truly appreciate the modern options we have in part because of educational material just like this.
@TextileGeorge
@TextileGeorge 26 күн бұрын
great video guys, really enjoyed this on
@SargeOfTheGuard
@SargeOfTheGuard 27 күн бұрын
Your version of 'Asparagus Forced in a French Roll' as it was being prepared appeared more pleasing to my eye than the one that Jon Townsend did a few years back... but the way he sliced his open for consumption was more tastefully done than the way you excavated the innards of yours with a spoon... however, I'm sure that they both tasted just as good as one another! 😁
@walterengler5709
@walterengler5709 27 күн бұрын
Very nice episode. Thanks!
@Blrtech77
@Blrtech77 27 күн бұрын
Thanks Ryan for the history lesson. Amazing 👏
@xavierisrael3320
@xavierisrael3320 26 күн бұрын
Really like this format
@yep8058
@yep8058 26 күн бұрын
Really love your cooking videos
@donbachmeier7617
@donbachmeier7617 27 күн бұрын
You are a very good communicator, sir.
@davidshettlesworth1442
@davidshettlesworth1442 27 күн бұрын
Thank you for a great history lesson and entertaining video. Carry On Sir.
@jeffd.7092
@jeffd.7092 24 күн бұрын
Thanks for an informative video. I’m gonna try both recipes with my family.
@davestelling
@davestelling Күн бұрын
Everything looked very good, enjoyed - thanks Ryan...
@mr.stevens-pg6ff
@mr.stevens-pg6ff 5 күн бұрын
Showing this to my students. Thanks Townsends!
@SandrA-hr5zk
@SandrA-hr5zk 27 күн бұрын
Asparagus was cultivated in California by Chinese immigrants when the San Juaquin Delta was turned into agricultural lands. Stockton even has a festival for it. Filipinos and Vietnamese immigrants were also used for growing/harvesting the crop.
@DireWolf28
@DireWolf28 27 күн бұрын
Silent Bob is a great teacher. I find the history of how people dined fascinating!
@usapatriot4163
@usapatriot4163 27 күн бұрын
Great video! Love the poor food series. Thanks!
@outdooraddventure
@outdooraddventure 8 күн бұрын
I grew up in a single parent family. So I learned to appreciate what food we got. I know one thing for sure. My mother made us always good meals. Christmas birthdays etc was always great. We didn't have what all the other kids had. But I was a strong as hell athlete when I reached my early teens and into my high school years / adulthood
@Strix-gp9xg
@Strix-gp9xg 24 күн бұрын
amazing stuff!
@gerrymarmee3054
@gerrymarmee3054 27 күн бұрын
I love these videos!
@PulpParadise
@PulpParadise 27 күн бұрын
A recipe with nutmeg and Jon's not around. I hope that doesn't mean he had to go to nutmeg rehab. 😉This looks like such a lovely recipe - thanks for sharing Ryan and @Townsends!
@cliffwoodbury5319
@cliffwoodbury5319 24 күн бұрын
I know i said this before, but AMAZING VIDEO. It's cool you are on this channel, because you have what it takes to have your own channel, and I would hope in the future this channel expand if it can attract other talents of the same pedigree, because it is cool to have multiple talents under one roof/channel, covering the same topics in their own unique entertaining way.
@Blondie42
@Blondie42 27 күн бұрын
6:12 I am utterly amazed that you found an old script font that includes the long s that looks like an f
@cherub3624
@cherub3624 27 күн бұрын
That asparagus coming out of that thing looks like a 7 year olds first attempt at creating a dish.
@peterott-tn6pf
@peterott-tn6pf 26 күн бұрын
Awesome video man! Asparagus is one of my absolute favorite veggies!!
@DannysGalaxyTab
@DannysGalaxyTab 27 күн бұрын
Hope we see more of this guy!
@sheilam4964
@sheilam4964 27 күн бұрын
The narrative contains a lot of great observations between the poor and the well-to-do, all worth remembering and keeping in mind when reading about the past.
@truthreigns7
@truthreigns7 27 күн бұрын
great presentation.
@jojomojo6569
@jojomojo6569 27 күн бұрын
Great video, loved it! Also, he looks a bit like Penn Jillette?
@gailsears2913
@gailsears2913 27 күн бұрын
Good one Ryan!
@rahannneon
@rahannneon 22 күн бұрын
Excellent video.
@MsLeenite
@MsLeenite 25 күн бұрын
Thank you, Ryan.
@larrymiller5253
@larrymiller5253 25 күн бұрын
Bruh! Love your videos
@BlessingsfromNorthIdaho
@BlessingsfromNorthIdaho 26 күн бұрын
In Wyoming along the irrigation canals asparagus grows wild and you can cut bags of it in the spring ❤.
@lynnsenger9950
@lynnsenger9950 27 күн бұрын
My dad grew asparagus. We were the only two in the family that liked it. I thought I was the luckiest kid in the world.
@beckypennington79
@beckypennington79 27 күн бұрын
Thanks for the video it was fun and very interesting
@chicagorandy
@chicagorandy 27 күн бұрын
Thanks for sharing the novel recipe and the history behind it. I do believe that to know any people, learn what they eat and try it.
@successthruknowledge
@successthruknowledge 23 күн бұрын
I think that I will try to cook the wealthy family's version of the asparagus recipe! I meant several times to try some of your recipes. I love asparagus so you must succeed with such a simple recipe!
@goofusmaximus1482
@goofusmaximus1482 24 күн бұрын
The more things change, the more things stay the same. Three centuries later that does not change so much. Quite remarkable!
@brucetidwell7715
@brucetidwell7715 27 күн бұрын
Another great episode! The asparagus in custard looks delicious. QUESTION: When all of those dishes were laid out on the table, did the guests pass them around hand to hand, or did a servant bring them around the table and then leave them in the appropriate spot?
@gkeuler
@gkeuler 27 күн бұрын
This guy narrates amazing videos
@YankeeRebel1348
@YankeeRebel1348 27 күн бұрын
It's funny how some things do not change even in 2024. It's important to understand what people of the day were thinking and what society was like in order to even understand the time period. Even through the Civil War
@angelamneeley1797
@angelamneeley1797 27 күн бұрын
What a blessing Father is always right on time thank you fir your obedience to post about asparagus right now we just harvested some from the garden looking forward to trying these recipes. May YAH bless you and keep you and your families
@agimagi2158
@agimagi2158 27 күн бұрын
I was searching for a recipe for green aspargus (white is more common here). Guess I've found not one, but two!
@LaundryFaerie
@LaundryFaerie 27 күн бұрын
Fun fact: white asparagus is the same plant as green asparagus; the only difference is that one is covered with mulch so it doesn't develop chlorophyll.
@MakoRuu
@MakoRuu 26 күн бұрын
That Asparagus loaf is very similar to Green Bean Casserole that we make for Christmas time. Perhaps they share a similar origin.
@farmerswife51
@farmerswife51 26 күн бұрын
Oh yes! We still know where the wild asparagus is in our neighborhood, and still pull over in these spots, even though we have asparagus beds in our yard.
@debbralehrman5957
@debbralehrman5957 27 күн бұрын
One thing do notice different between those earlier cookbooks and now.(a side from not assuming you know things) Is I don't remember ever seeing urine mentioned anywhere. 🤔 Nope I sure don't. 🤷🏼‍♀️😉😅 Thanks Ryan and Crew another wonderful video. 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼🌹
@jamesellsworth9673
@jamesellsworth9673 26 күн бұрын
RYAN! RYAN! I miss you behind the bar in Thompson's videos, even as engaging as Jon's daughter is. You also do as fine a job of unpacking a historical recipe as Jon does. We just need to see your take and your presence in these videos.
@geomundi8333
@geomundi8333 27 күн бұрын
love this video; love his glasses. i have big old thick pop bottle lens so probably wouldn't work with my prescription lol
@dwaynewladyka577
@dwaynewladyka577 27 күн бұрын
A very nice looking dish using asparagus. Can you do a video on what dishes were served at banquets in the 18th century, in North America? Cheers!
@mrjones2721
@mrjones2721 27 күн бұрын
My father had an asparagus patch that was about 8x8. It took very little work, and during the spring it was woefully productive. (Did I mention that I don’t like asparagus?) You harvested the stems multiple times, until it got late enough in the season that it didn’t taste good any longer. After that you let it grow unhindered into an unbroken patch of fluffy green, decorated with little red berries. Because it’s a perennial, that piece of ground is permanently occupied by asparagus. That would be a problem in a tiny English country garden, but Americans had more space to spare. So I’m not entirely sure why asparagus became a “fancy” food, unless the attraction is having asparagus out of season.
@hawktheelfowl
@hawktheelfowl 24 күн бұрын
It always tickles me when one of the recipes featured is still something I make routinely. Asparagus cooked/ fried in butter is decidedly the best!
@ZippyMrMw
@ZippyMrMw 27 күн бұрын
The chart of dishes.. fascinating
@coppergearheart4125
@coppergearheart4125 25 күн бұрын
This episode reminds me of reading Alexis Soyer's works, and he weirdly differentiated between asparagus, and something called sprue grass which I could only assume is wild asparagus.
@thak44
@thak44 19 күн бұрын
This is so interesting I love it
@unclebob1959
@unclebob1959 27 күн бұрын
Proud subscriber for 5 years!
@jocelynnlillis2921
@jocelynnlillis2921 20 күн бұрын
I would love to see a video on the history of the Chef during this time frame , was they well respected? considered a servant? where they "peasants" and wht sorta foods would you find in a freestanding restaurant/tavern of the time
@chrisd7287
@chrisd7287 27 күн бұрын
I haven't kept up too much with the channel and i'm not sure who this chap is, but i like him . 🍻
@DavidCowie2022
@DavidCowie2022 27 күн бұрын
Going by the other comments, his name is Ryan.
@krisk4513
@krisk4513 17 күн бұрын
Pretty amazing how you can taste and experience something that can transport you a couple hundred years back in history.
@MaxSwenson-qm3uh
@MaxSwenson-qm3uh 15 күн бұрын
Bot????
@BobGeanis
@BobGeanis 26 күн бұрын
I had wild asparagus in the field once.
@Kennybecker777
@Kennybecker777 27 күн бұрын
Nice video ❤
@Bobo411
@Bobo411 26 күн бұрын
i'd like to see you guys prepare a whole dinner with several courses that a rich person would have back then.
@leoscheibelhut940
@leoscheibelhut940 27 күн бұрын
I assumed that the custard in the rich dish was going to set up and that the roll would then be sliced like a meatloaf with the asparagus in the middle. So both were served hot and the rolls were just coffin that many guests wouldn't bother to eat?
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