if you're good enough at something, you can get away with quite a lot, and still someone will want your skills.

It's because he's not in it to be famous, and he's not in it to have a movie that does well. He's in it to do the work, and do it well, and in a way that he sees fit. He still responds to kids on twitter who ask questions!

ask Banksy hes been ripped off

No-one I repeat NO ONE does animation without passion. Its like the most annoying and time-consuming process there is. You have to be a military general, an ascetic monk and generally crazy to truly be a great animator. Not matter if 2D or 3D that stuff takes for ever.

@@brittanymcmcmc9730 "He still responds to kids on twitter who ask questions!" or not, he's dead.

Or did he? Most animators are some form of crazy!

4:03 i wonder too

@@littlereuby Well I can only speak for myself... and some of my animation friends and a big YES all the animators I know are a bit crazy or lets just say they are not main stream normal. "WHAT EVER THAT IS" and THANK GOD! who wants to be boring :)

As an animator I can say animation is what keeps me sane. I want to do it. There’s a point where I get into a deep state of thinking and sometimes my workday is over before I’m ready to stop.

John Elliott yeah, there is a certain joy in getting completely submerged in the making of something.

The world really lost a creative mind today 😞 I hope his wife Imogen is doing well.

wait hes dead!

May he rest in peace

I had no idea who was the mind behind one of my favorite movies of all time, Who Framed Roger Rabbit... His enthusiasm for his craft is inspiring.

I still own that wonderful book.

I just download pdf from unknown source but I'll buy when i have income

I've been having the same thing going on! Makes me want to write screenplays for animated films.

Frank Thomas & Ollie Johnston's groundbreaking tome "The Illusion of Life" still holds up very well.

To add to what Tim wrote The illusion of life is a great book , it's goes back forth between the history of Disney and guide book for animators. Richard Williams also wrote a book that all animators use " the animators survival kit " the first 2 chapters are a great look into animation for anyone who loves the medium.

I love animating.

I really want to buy a scanner so I can do something like this.

That's sad. :((

Xynnful I mean.. what else were the animators supposed to do? He should’ve treated them with more respect if he didn’t want them to take what they’d learned with him elsewhere

@@Flowtail the thief and the cobbler was as he said; "his magnum opus" so of course he wanted it to be perfect i can't blame him for that

@Yousef Ghaneemah that's probably my favorite Ghandi quote.

@@Flowtail He was uncompromising. That doesn't mean he was disrespectful. If he wanted to change a scene and the staff couldn't or weren't willing to do it because it would take ages, the only thing both parties can do is separate.

That statement makes me wonder if he was unaware of the existence of anime 🤔😅

@@NoriMori1992 I don't know for sure when that quote was made, but judging by the audio quality, it was probably at a time anime was not in the place it resides in today, the days of the more artful and thoughtful directors like Satoshi Kon or Katsuhiro Otomo or Hayao Miyazaki were still yet to come. For most of the 60s and 70s, limited animation with simplistic concepts generally reigned in the Japanese animation industry. Of course, anime has come a long way since then, though for boomers and Gen X-ers who only knew the likes of Speed Racer and Astroboy from the odd dubbed broadcast run of their youth, they often seem to grapple with the idea it moved on from those days.

​@@NoriMori1992 The problem is that anime doesn't have a good technical animation quality, it's very locked and the characters don't have charm

It's because it's animated on 1's and with incredible attention to character movement. What people don't realize is animation can look beautiful if a huge amount of, albeit painstaking, effort is put into it

Kinda like the scene in Roger rabbit where Herman knocks over the pin and the floor Roger is rolling on acts 3d

the nose helps to achive it

If it's coming from Moikaloop, well, guess I'll be checking out both!

I came here from that lol

When it all comes together like that, assuming the plot is up to par, it just feels like total art to me, the greatest stories should be canonized through this gloss. Though the Old Guard(as ROFS put it) of traditional animation are sadly all but extinct.

Tyler Bowshier I agree. Dude you would not believe that there are so many people at my school that don't even watch these types of videos. They don't try to be better artist or animators. They just want to watch anime and get paid for it. Its probably the worst environment I've ever been around. So trying to talk,to people creativly about film and just learn is almost pointless unless its here with others learning about film and animation.

I definitely get that. I'm into writing more than film but I think the same applies. Many of the kids at my college, and these are supposed English majors, seldom seek resources beyond the assignments. They are satisfied with their shitty teen poems and already accept that they'll burnout on the whole thing in a few years and give up. I've always felt there's really no excuse not to know what the hell you're doing in the modern day. No one should be content to that bare minimum. “If something burns your soul with purpose and desire, it’s your duty to be reduced to ashes by it. Any other form of existence will be yet another dull book in the library of life.” -Charles Bukowski

Tyler Bowshier thats some heavy shit that I totally agree with. Some of these kids have traced stuff and gotten away with it and it pisses me off to no extent but I know they're only cheating themselves. They also have no original story telling they just do shot, reverse shot and just are content with side angles with no 3/4 perspectives. Its flat,boring, underwelming, half of the time I refuse to critique because ill come across an whole. Its just odd they don't care but I also think that is what will separate everyone by senior thesis.

Very true. It's funny to think how similar people are. The same assholes in colleges across America, just with different names. I wanna take advantage of this conversation to recommend you check out Waking Life, it's very original in its scope I would say. And super philosophical, which is my fetish.

Yes indeed and it's a unique way of storytelling and the characters are able to move around however and whenever they want. The only limit to telling a story through animation is your imagination!

Nowadays, some comic artists have mastered the art of drawing in perspective. Their comic panels look like they could be frames of an animation. However, it's still extremely impressive to draw a drawing per frame. The dedication is amazing.

Yes,very smart.

Patrik Jensen I just got that book! We're using it in my college class.

Dude! Read it! I got mine last year because I animate for a hobby and its wonderful! If you can, buy the 2009 Expanded Edition, it has a lot more stuff, as well as instructional videos out there!

got that book for meh birthday!

Omg same here! My dad got me the book for Christmas last year and when I watched the thief and the cobbler I realised it was the same logo! Definitely going to read it

I hope to get that book someday too Edit: I bought it and it's beyond amazing!

TRUE! people are ignorant these days! They just talk about James Baxter back and forth without understanding anything about animation!

Vicente Ortega Rubilar man I'm still surprised about Lasseter.

Lasseter? Lasseter never really excelled at traditionnal animation...

Blond Gabriel is that why he got fired from Disney?

Tom one No, he got fired because of sexual misconduct.

Kela van der Deijl no, I mean when he was young. Before Pixar

Leira Whitehart they are made targeted to kinds tho

@@static2140 Because marketers force it to be that way for kids without expanding from comedy and little action genre (animation in western world would be great for horror and drama too) when old animators literally stated themselves "animations/cartoons are for everybody" and some even said "I do animation on what I like." Last time I checked, those animators were 20 to 50 yrs old, so they don't know what kids like/care which is why cartoons from the past can be enjoyed by everyone unlike cartoons now where parents don't watch it with their kids. Basically Looney Tunes or Tom and Jerry vs Adventure Time or OK KO, and see which one parents will stop and sit down to watch with their kids.

@@thgritic102 i would totally watch adventure time with my kids but i get your point

If it makes you feel any better, a lot of foreign and independent filmmakers treat animation better than mainstream entertainment and uses it for different genres other than kids/family movie, crude, satirical adult cartoon, bland educational show for preschoolers, and 30-minute toy commercial disguised as a children's cartoon. And, yes, I am including Japanese animation as being "better than mainstream", but, like American animation, it's a mixed bag of quality , too.

@@canaisyoung3601 I mean, I already know that anime has a wider variety of the kinds of animations they put out, from cutesy, bubbly roundness, to terrifying blood and gore, to weird wackiness that makes no sense, but is fun anyway, Japan has a lot going for it with it's animation. I know that. But unfortunately, that doesn't make me feel better, because I wish for more of that *for us,* and that the people *here* would stop seeing cartoons as just kid things with maybe the exception of the adult swim and fox shows, but I've heard some people even call *them* kid shows, which boggles my mind. I think it's great that the Japanese have such diversity of content in their animes, but unfortunately, not a lot of anime appeals to me, and so I just really wish there was more western animation that could be like anime, with the kinds of tones, and experimental attitudes, but from a more American, or generally western perspective. While I generally don't care much for anime, there are some that I quite like, and one of the film's that I really liked from Japan was Paprika with it's dreamy animation, and fun colors, but serious undertones and subject matter. It's so *rare* when I see something like that from here, meanwhile Japan has stuff like that in boatloads! When are *we* going to have more stuff like this for adults? I dunno, but that's just me ranting a bit, I don't even remember what the video this comment is on was about, but man, I just feel passionate about animation, because I want to have my own animated show one day, and sometimes I wonder if I'll have issues, because my ideas feel too mature for kids, but not enough swearing or vulgarity to be considered "adult".

william's work is impressive, and he's great at teaching, but i have to agree. it gets tiring after watching the films for a while. sometimes simple is better

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@@arthrit7076 Not exactly "simple" as correct, since capturing emotions, the perfect facial expression for each moment, is not so easy

dan bark Sort of like how Williams said animation should be able to move slowly and with dignity

@@quijotapazos2750 oh, yeah. i get that. by simple i meant in contrast of all the camera movement and exaggerated expressions williams uses

Same although it's so HARD to master! D:

Exactly.................and these so called animation hsitorians seem to get the history of Max Fleisher wrong time and time again.....and Tissa David should be more noted in animation history....but alas.....sighhhh.....disrespect is the word for animators and cartooning overall folks.....at least for now ...jan, 2023......sheeech.

Kalla Blufyr you're right. I found the work on the Beserk Golden Age movie 2 battle/skirmish scenes very very visceral, with real weight, effort, and inertia behind the movement.

Never heard of him either. It was a very interesting video though.

Miles Martin same!! let's go back to our drawing boards and practice!

dont be discourage! its achievable!

practice!

Can't even draw anatomy right yet *sigh*

Now adding James Baxter. Can't believe I forgot about him.

In that case, I recommend you watch this video next: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/iL2kp5aF0tTNmmg.html

synchronicity confirmed