DIRT CHEAP, EBAY, AMAZON, SLOPPY LS CAM TEST...SLOPPY STAGE 1 VS STAGE 1.5 VS STAGE 2 VS STAGE 3

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6 ай бұрын

HOW DO ALL THE ORIGINAL ELGIN SLOPPY STAGE CAMS COMPARE? WHICH SLOPPY CAM MAKES THE MOST TORQUE? IS THE SLOPPY STAGE 2 THE BEST CAM EVER? HOW MUCH MORE POWER DOES THE SLOPPY STAGE 2 MAKE THAN THE SLOPPY STAGE 1? DOES THE SLOPPY STAGE 2 MAKE MORE THAN THE SLOPPY STAGE 1.5? WILL THE SLOPPY STAGE 3 FIT STOCK PISTON-TO-VALVE CLEARANCE? WHICH SLOPPY CAM MAKES THE MOST PEAK POWER? CAN I RUN THE SLOPPY STAGE 3 CAM ON MY 4.8L? CHECK OUT THIS VIDEO WHERE (FOR THE FIRST TIME EVER), WE TESTED ALL FOUR SLOPPY STAGE CAMS ON THE SAME MOTOR ON THE SAME DAY ON THE SAME DYNO. HOW DID YOUR FAVORITE SLOPPY CAM DO?

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@charlesgraham9954 4 ай бұрын

don't see how this channel isn't in the millions, because Richard will save u money and time on getting the engine u want. i watch listened and built a 410 LS stroker well over 500TQ and pushing 600HP, all from listening to Richard...!!!

@richardholdener1727 4 ай бұрын

congrats

@Born_Stellar 4 ай бұрын

lol, because no one works on stuff anymore. we are a dying breed, people who work on their own cars.

@erik120719 4 ай бұрын

@@Born_Stellarwe aren't dying , we are getting crippled and broken lol...I still manage to make my hands work for at least 6hrs a day in my shop, not that I NEED the hours in but more to the point of I LOVE what I do. I remember throwing trans and rear ends around by hand, not the cherry picker lifts EVERYTHING but tires for me. I've prolly put a 100 transmissions in on my back in the ground when I was younger, now it'd literally kill me. At least I got my own shop and set my own pace now. I do the jobs I WANT to now so it's a labor of love not a job for necessity anymore

@ls_812 2 ай бұрын

I remember when I first decided to try to go work in a shop work on cars... I was talking to my dad about it cuz of course that's what he's done all his life. And I was saying how much I love working on cars and so I'd love to do it for a job. He kindly told me that doing it for a job can we'll take the enjoyment out of it. A lot of times. I no longer turn wrenches for a job but I keep my vehicles and my kids vehicles going which turns into a lot of weekends sometimes. But I love fixing things. And it's easier to fix cars than it is people

@erik120719 2 ай бұрын

@@ls_812 agree 💯 but unfortunately I'm stuck in my rut of sore back and arthritis ridden hands lol

@bluecollarhotrods9781 6 ай бұрын

For those asking... SS3 is 238/242 @ .050, .595" lift on both, 112 LSA.

@MrPhukyew 6 ай бұрын

I'm shocked that it fit, I think with the big intake valves on the rec port heads it would probably not fit.

@MrPhukyew 4 ай бұрын

Good to know! @@slicksloth_416

@trevorstrauss9978 3 ай бұрын

@slicksloth_416 how do you like it? Do it again?

@Cultofpersonality09129 2 ай бұрын

@@trevorstrauss9978wayy to big for a street car. I have one in 6.0.

@mikemichael4960 Ай бұрын

@@Cultofpersonality09129 stage 3?

@tptrsn 6 ай бұрын

Well damn, my converter grabs at 4k, I might as well throw the SS3 back in! Thanks Richard!!

@patlandymore7035 6 ай бұрын

Thanks for orchestrating such a comprehensive test! 👍🏼👍🏼 Awesome info from the best.

@krashanb5767 2 ай бұрын

1.5 looks like a winner for me. SUV used on streets and offroad.

@ticojason8868 6 ай бұрын

I've been waiting on this one for YEARS! I have the SS3 and I love it

@trevorstrauss9978 3 ай бұрын

What's the motor ?

@Ed70Nova427 6 ай бұрын

Thank you Richard. Great data!

@troy8940 6 ай бұрын

I am so glad that you decided to do a story on these 3 cams. I just found out that the 1.5 existed. I brought the sloppy stage 2 and purchased stage one for a milder build, And never heard the stage 3 but I think I may use the 3 in my main build instead of the 2 because it sounds way more radical but Semi tamed the car is not shaking . I'm guessing the 1.5 is for individuals whom don't want to upgrade cylinder heads but they want a little bit of boost in the kubush you know. Once again teacher you've been a great help I truly appreciate you. Thank you. I would have chimed in live with you today but I have to go eat lunch 😊

@DodgyBrothersEngineering 6 ай бұрын

I see no point to the 1.0 when the 1.5 offers virtually everything the same down low and more up top. Unless there is significant feel difference below what the dyno can measure, I'd drop it from the product line up.

@hondatech5000 6 ай бұрын

Yes to chassis dyno in the background that was a nice treat 😂

@WD-sr8qz 4 ай бұрын

You're the man Richard!

@jmflournoy386 6 ай бұрын

We sold lots of Elgin, Wolverine, Melling and other cams ground by the big 3 "Detroit" production grinders. Their FT HYD and Mech cams are mostly obsolete however the roller cams can't be that old. I'd check the timing for ANY cam, at least check the springs and do new valve stem seals. Many hot rod cam grinders rebox these cams. The seat durations are given in SAE which is .006 at the valve or .004 with a 1.5 rocker so the durations look a little long compared to say Comp cams which gives durations at .006 at the lifter. These cams are designed to be user installed and trouble, they do not "Push" the lifter side loading, i.e.not a winner for heads up racing but great for brackets. Their FT cams may not be the latest masters but still wear well.

@abdullaalameri90 3 ай бұрын

Great test 👌

@oldschool6268 6 ай бұрын

I have done my research over and over, I'm finally about to run a stage one in a LQ4 chevelle with mild boost with a 6 speed(3:55 gears). The stage 2 is to much loss for a manual low compression car, the 1.5 would be great I'm sure, but the pac 1218 springs would be close to there limit. I can't wait for this build to go down !

@james10739 6 ай бұрын

When you went thru 1 thru 3 I was like man to bad he didn't get the 1.5 but then BAM

@cryptoredneck8255 6 ай бұрын

Great comparison!

@richardholdener1727 6 ай бұрын

thnx

@Go69 6 ай бұрын

I was previously running the 1.5 but did not know that's what it was called. In my .020" over 6.0L with factory injectors, 799 heads, and gen 3 intake like Richard was running in this video, it was pretty calm.. Then I swapped to the TBSS intake, and 36 lb./hr. injectors along with the SS2, and a home ported set of 706's and it feels like it gained 100HP. It went from a truck that would barely spin the 315's from a dead stop, to a tire frying machine... Literally if I'm rolling along at 30 mph and stomp it, it will kick down to 1st (4L80E) and demolish the tires... pure smoke show... This combo that I have now is what I would call a starting point on all of my future builds. The 1.5 cam was very easy to tune, had just enough lope at idle that it was noticeable, and got decent gas mileage, but the combo in my opinion left a lot on the table. The new set up is night and day power production compared to the old. Oh, also forgot-Nick Williams 92MM throttle body with the new intake. LOTS of parts changed, but the reward was worth it. I got LEGIT Elgin cams-nothing from Sham-a-zon, or Fleece-Bay.. Those china knock off cams are GARBAGE.. several people have tested them and they rarely match the specs they are sold under, and one guy posted results showing the ground the lobes backwards.. STAY AWAY FROM CHINA CAMS and anything else that is internal engine. If you buy trash, it might destroy your engine... Not worth the risk.

@johnbarksdale4915 6 ай бұрын

Solid info thanks

@diem8093 5 ай бұрын

what website did you get the cam from?

@Go69 5 ай бұрын

@@diem8093 My local machinist ordered it for me. I have no idea where he got it. It came in a legit ELGIN box, with the correct part #. Check with your local performance machine shop.. they can get the real ones.

@swfltechnician7562 Ай бұрын

I also have a 6.0 gen 4 and I would like to know would which max cam can I use with stock pistons. (Daily use RCSB)

@wailingalen Ай бұрын

Bro u got a new sub and like. 👍 You got right to the point, it's nice to see du ở back to back comparison of these different cam stages.

@richardholdener1727 Ай бұрын

welcome

@RobsNeighbor 6 ай бұрын

This is awesome data! Your edits are great!

@richardholdener1727 6 ай бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

@jeffcraven2437 6 ай бұрын

@@richardholdener1727 Can you explain how advancing and retarding would change their useable powerband RPM ranges please? Thanks in advance…

@mattgraham1983 6 ай бұрын

🤔 I wonder how much of a difference a "performance" intake manifold would make to the stage3, I wouldn't expect much maybe tidy up the lower rpm.. great test👍

@brandonrohrer7914 6 ай бұрын

Thank you

@Lagrange1186 5 ай бұрын

Boooo we ( and when I say we it probably just means me) the best cam too! Thanks for the comparison video sir. Didn’t realize there was a 1.5

@erickbernard8208 6 ай бұрын

Fyi ur doing sloppy central PROUD!!!!! Thank you for ur service lol

@gearhead7896 6 ай бұрын

Finally the SS3! Now do the TN on a LY6 (make sure it has rec port heads)!

@christophershafer5615 6 ай бұрын

I would love to see the Truck Norris vs. Torquer V4!

@jcanfixall1585 6 ай бұрын

I love your ear protection... 😂

@ronaldrey8474 3 ай бұрын

Love to hear the idol x 3

@Ninelinegarage 6 ай бұрын

I've had my eye on the 1.5 for a while now. It will go in a 6.0 LQ4 with 862/706 heads. It should make for a fun street engine in a heavy truck!

@jordantrujillo293 6 ай бұрын

Nice! I’m doing the same with the new Sloppy Best Cam in a Jeep XJ on 37s.

@MrPhukyew 6 ай бұрын

I've done that exact combo it works really well and you can even run it on stock converter. With good tuning this cam will idle great at 650 and have enough vacuum for anything ya need.

@Ninelinegarage 5 ай бұрын

@@MrPhukyew Any idea what your power numbers were? I've been guessing it would make around 460/460.

@jeffpriest4017 5 ай бұрын

im running ss2 in 2500hd 706 heads headers great truck motor. tow and play.pull 30 ft camper with lop and no converter its great

@MrPhukyew 5 ай бұрын

@@Ninelinegarage at the wheels it would probably be closer to the low 400s or high 300s depending on many other factors.

@mattflang-te5om 6 ай бұрын

Put a ss3 in my 56 Chevy truck, all the chop, kinda soggy down low but turned on .

@802Garage 5 ай бұрын

Hey, Richard. Love your videos! Just wanted to mention the audio on this one was a bit rough. I really couldn't hear the engines idling or running, and then you're talking in between sessions was sometimes loud. Only meant as constructive feedback. I wanted to hear those cams!

@corceil Ай бұрын

AGREED, it slightly irritated me as well

@LionPride-bv9cs 6 ай бұрын

Re: Yesterdays video I was actually replying to a comment when you took it down, but somebody was asking about the 8711R1 in the 5.3 with the Katech heads. I bet you could get really close to 500 with that with the TBSS on top. Like ti see how it would compare to this and similar 500ishhp combos. Speaking of lower lift and valvetrain stability, I'd be curious to see how the Summit Stage 3 8708R1 faired in comparison.

@jimmyford796 6 ай бұрын

Hey Richard another great and informative video for the Chevy guys lol. I’m a Mopar guy but I still enjoy all of your videos. I going to swap a factory 6.4 hemi non mds cam into my 2010 5.7 hemi. It would be nice to see a comparison of the 5.7 and the 6.4 cams. I chose to go this way because I’ve read that it requires no tuning, and the VVT works with both cams.

@chipcurrey653 6 ай бұрын

Well the factory engines have a narrow band o2 sensor when defaulting over to speed density (full throttle) and a very small range of possible air fuel adjustment. From looking at my copy of hp tuners for those engines the max range of fuel adder based on O2 sensors is about half a point of air fuel ratio. So you can reverse engineer that if the other camshaft "needs no tuning" the power gains are very, very small or it would create a lean detonation condition.

@sniperpronerfmods9811 6 ай бұрын

6.4 is awesome coming from cheby guy

@JesusMendozaCovers Ай бұрын

Thankyou!

@richardholdener1727 Ай бұрын

You're welcome!

@srage9188 6 ай бұрын

Good morning 🐱

@gothicpagan.666 6 ай бұрын

That motor is becoming legendary. Bit more work and your into 100bhp/Ltr. What else would you do, set or higher ratio rockers?. That was a lot of work in a short amount of time. Had to catch up with the previous upload, at least you managed to stay awake🙂👍

@richardholdener1727 6 ай бұрын

please see the 542-hp 5.3l vids

@gothicpagan.666 6 ай бұрын

@@richardholdener1727 I'm now left wondering if the BTR cam that gave 542bhp in the other video, had too much exhaust timing relative to the inlet, it doesn't follow what you'd expect as shown by this Sloppy cam test. Perfect test for that 8-1exhaust though 😆👍

@msh6865 6 ай бұрын

5-7 horsepower or lbs ft torque aren't going to be noticable on the butt dyno. Heads or power adders will. I wouldn't get too caught up in chasing minimal hp gains. Find the appropriate cam for your application and rpm range then build around that.

@bowhite1293 5 ай бұрын

2:55 caught me off guard brah. Shot Dr Pepper out of my nose 😆

@erickbren8702 3 ай бұрын

with a 230/230 do I still generate enough vacuum? I am concerned of the extra costs of getting a big cam like a e-break booster or something. Thanks for your help!

@b00sted_SS 6 ай бұрын

I run the SS3 on a 6.0 with twin vsracing 67/62’s , it’s got ALL the chop at idle!! Hot idle, cold idle, no timing, all the timing, it’s full time CHOP

@DodgyBrothersEngineering 6 ай бұрын

Any time you get over 230 on the intake it is pretty hard to tame the idle no matter what you do. Not that you would want to, but if you did...

@b00sted_SS Ай бұрын

@@cmovezz3192 for N/A, blower or nitrous stage 3 is great, but for turbo it’s not a good choice. Picked up summit stage 2 turbo cam I’ll be installing in the next week or two

@b00sted_SS Ай бұрын

@@cmovezz3192 just using the pac 1219’s I have, summit said the pac 1218’s or 19’s are fine with that cam and the ones I have maybe 1000 miles on them

@stephanouellet3673 6 ай бұрын

Richard can you do stage3 on 6.3 LS3 compare ss2 thanks 💪

@Rattle_canned_restorations Ай бұрын

Ive ran the 2 and 3, loved both of em will do it again. I bought the $80 ebay versions though 😂😂😂

@hayden6056 Ай бұрын

How many miles did you put on them any issues?

@ronwest7930 6 ай бұрын

I couldn't hear the choppy idle. I would like to see torque cams tested. Find the best usable street cams for a big block.

@Cultofpersonality09129 2 ай бұрын

Texas speed has this stage 3 cam as their MS3 cam.

@AnDrEw122100 6 ай бұрын

Curious how long it takes you to do a cam swap on the dyno mule ?

@MasterOfSpaceTime 2 күн бұрын

You have AMAZING dentures dude! Where did you get them? I need to get my 88 year old dad there because your dentures are GREAT! 👍

@richardholdener1727 2 күн бұрын

ALL ORIGINAL

@chrism-xe5ku 6 ай бұрын

I would have liked to hear each cam at an idle for a few moments. Some guys like me aren’t worried about every point of HP or torque. Idle sound!

@DodgyBrothersEngineering 6 ай бұрын

Are you after smooth idle or lope?

@richardholdener1727 6 ай бұрын

there is idle in the clips

@H1shman 6 ай бұрын

SS3 in my boat. Only need power from 4500+ and running beehives was needed for marine duty. PTV was close. Can’t imagine with 30 thousands taken off the head!

@cmovezz3192 Ай бұрын

Did u end up with the stage 3 ? How do u like it?

@johndishong5083 6 ай бұрын

Would it be possible to get some idle vacuum numbers for cam reviews. I still like my power brakes.

@pumpybenis3122 5 ай бұрын

Get a vaccum pump and canister

@michaelblacktree 6 ай бұрын

I'm the type of guy who puts the SS3 cam in a 5.3, for the chop. You gotta have chop. 😛

@richardholdener1727 6 ай бұрын

chop chop chop

@erik120719 4 ай бұрын

@@richardholdener1727 I like the natural cam sound vs the chop. I really wanted to go with the ss3 but did the SS2, really need a stall but rolling 40 this thing lites em up when u stand in it. 7400lb monster, has 5.13s now ( going to drop 3/4 ton axles in soon, poor 10bolt rt now gets beat up) , 243s I ported and had decked, 4.8l flat top pistons, SS2 , gen 4 intake , full long tube exhaust, 4l80e. kzfaq.infoGWDoB6UFH3Q?si=8mh15DFwg8hA_PMj

@ndemarco2013 4 ай бұрын

L33 w/ SS3 and M1 please!!!

@danielochoa9454 3 ай бұрын

Hi Richard I love your work! Have you tired the even cheaper EBay cam runs around $80 for a stage2 cam or should I go with the Elgin instead. Just feel like it’s made by the same Chinese factory?

@richardholdener1727 3 ай бұрын

Elgin is not China

@charlesleake930 6 ай бұрын

driving down level road at about 50 MPH ....all ... you need to do this is about 20-40 Horsepower......you know this as well as i do.......

@11SpeedFreek11 6 ай бұрын

Would have been nice to see "sloppys best cam" along with the others..mainly since that's what Im running, currently, I also have an SS2 on the shelf..

@foreignautomobiles 6 ай бұрын

How would anyone know what the best cam is without knowing the exact specs and usage of your build? That's a very specific thing.

@richardholdener1727 6 ай бұрын

Sloppy Best cam is a new cam offered by Matt Sloppy

@nono-fn3zc 6 ай бұрын

This is exactly what I was thinking; where the Sloppy “Best Cam”. Richard you tested the Sloppy “Best Cam” a year ago against the Truck Norris. Are you saying there’s another Sloppy “Best Cam” out there :confused?

@Lagrange1186 5 ай бұрын

Yes the sloppy best cam is its own cam. Really close to the 1.5 just a fuzz tighter LSA

@chevrolet355 Ай бұрын

Im curious what a junkyard motor completely stock minus springs and ss2 and ss3 cam power numbers

@swfltechnician7562 Ай бұрын

Im curious on what max cam could be used with stock pistons on a gen 4 6.0

@joshgessinger4509 6 ай бұрын

So how did these cams compare to say big name cams. Texas speed or BTR cams for example. Do they make comparable HP or is it worth buying a better brand name cam. Good stuff as always Thanks Richard

@richardholdener1727 6 ай бұрын

you buy cam specs-not names

@joshgessinger4509 6 ай бұрын

@@richardholdener1727 Ya im not really good with specs so ur saying long as the specs r around the same or the same then should be good right. My mind has never been good with numbers have a really hard time remembering numbers. One thing thats always made me feel stupid. Lately a lot of things been making me feel stupid 😂 So long as specs r same as the name brand should be as good then. Thanks Richard.

@boost1728 6 ай бұрын

Surprised and sad the Best cam wasn’t included

@james10739 6 ай бұрын

Ya I was wanting to see a stock cam too but he has all those test you can kinda guess and figure it out possibly do some math and fioit the percentage difference

@boost1728 6 ай бұрын

@@james10739of course we can. But that being said we’ve already seen him do other cams extremely similar to those in this video so we could’ve done math to create the entire comparison…. But that’s not the point. As viewers we like to see data. Would’ve been cool to see ALL of the sloppy cams in one video- including the Best. The End

@MrBama14nc 2 ай бұрын

Anyone run the Stage 1 216/220? Looking for recommendations on torque converter.

@terrymitchell8081 5 ай бұрын

How would a l92 react to a ss3 cam? do you think it would be a good fit? Also being a bigger cid engine do you think cam timing could help any power loss lower in the rpm’s?

@richardholdener1727 5 ай бұрын

the SS3 cam will work on a 6.2L. It will lose power down low-but it has more to start with on a bigger motor.

@terrymitchell8081 5 ай бұрын

@@richardholdener1727 thank u for the reply do you think that cam timing could correct any of that or would I run into piston valve clearance issues? I’m only suggesting 4 or so degrees

@kirbyswarp 6 ай бұрын

Richard, have you ever tested if an exhaust with lots of curves and turns affects power vs one that doesn't?

@johnparrish9215 6 ай бұрын

Over at Enginemasters they dented the hell out of a set of headers before they could measure a meaningful difference..

@kirbyswarp 6 ай бұрын

@@johnparrish9215 I saw that, but in theory velocity of air gets reduced when it has to make turns. I wanted to know If the exhaust has a bunch of sharp curves to get around suspension/gas tank if it would make a difference to flow.

@richardholdener1727 6 ай бұрын

don't worry about the flow change, just build the exhaust

@DodgyBrothersEngineering 6 ай бұрын

@@johnparrish9215 strange how that happens, but the dyno shows it to be true. I used to own a car that started life as a 4 / 6 cylinder (same body) and I dropped a SBC in it. The only way to get extractors on it was to weave them between the lower control arms. So they weren't ideal pipes. One of the pipes got a significant flat (maybe 50%) of the pipe diameter hitting the ground over bumps at speed, but it never seemed to make any difference to the power. Looking at it you would have thought otherwise.

@largesfc 6 ай бұрын

Would advancing the cam 2-4 deg bring some of the torque back down low?

@vrm86gt 6 ай бұрын

Probably not enough piston to valve clearance on those bigger cams

@stevecobratei8538 3 ай бұрын

Advance will increase low end torque. Go the other way and you lose torque, but increase high-end HP.

@JohnDoe-ud2cc 6 ай бұрын

What would be the best cam for a lifted truck and for hauling and towing?

@stlchucko 6 ай бұрын

A small one

@redneckrevolt1 6 ай бұрын

How much fuel do you push through those 80# injectors? Jw if your going all out with the fuel or if the air is limiting the hp

@richardholdener1727 6 ай бұрын

plenty of fuel left-we also tested e85

@hectormurillo646 5 ай бұрын

What's up, i have a question for my daily ride 5.3 Working on the heads replacing some lifters i realized that i also have to replace this cam and for the price looks like a real good deal but as is for my daily ride i'm wondering if i'm passing smog check using any of this cams ?

@richardholdener1727 5 ай бұрын

no idea on legal cams

@polishedturdspeedshop 6 ай бұрын

Real Elgins are not dirt cheap, the video title makes it sound like you are testing the dirt cheap amazon and ebay ss2 cam china copy which many have said are lazier duration wise and a few other quirks

@BruceLee-xn3nn 6 ай бұрын

Quirks like POS wear out fast?

@chrisdieunlimited 6 ай бұрын

That's exactly what I was hoping to see, good info regardless but I still want to see China cam Dyno.

@Born_Stellar 4 ай бұрын

cheapest aftermarket cams I've found that I would be willing to run. @@chrisdieunlimited power is made by the spec of the cam, lift, duration, seperation. a chinese cam will make the same power if it has the same specs, but its more likely to do something bad to your engine. no point in power testing.

@zacharyandrew2653 6 ай бұрын

How are people’s experience with the Amazon sloppy stage 2 cam and lifter kits ? I hear so much about the experience about the cams but never the lifters that you can get with any of the many cam kits available or any other components that come with them . Would really love to know because I have a 5.3 that I’m trying to decide how I’ll build wether it’s all ls7 lifters and a btr or call it a day at a 500 dollar sloppy stage 2 kit with everything

@richardholdener1727 6 ай бұрын

don't buy cheap lifters

@jamesderoche7143 6 ай бұрын

Hey Richard, great videos!! They're very informative. Quick question, how can I increase low end torque (below 3000 rpm) on an 08 6.0L LS LY6? It's in a 3/4 truck that I tow a 7500lb trailer with. Thanks.

@l8tapex 6 ай бұрын

Truck Norris is close.....

@bluecollarhotrods9781 6 ай бұрын

Boost

@daveunbranded 6 ай бұрын

If you follow Richard at all you'll know that you can make more torque by increasing your runner length.

@acunit1639 6 ай бұрын

Roots style supercharger

@stlchucko 6 ай бұрын

Headers and maybe a small cam with a narrow LSA. Gains below 3k will be minimal. For larger gains down low, it’s either more displacement or boost. Honestly, let it rev. A LY6 makes its peak torque above 3k.

@omarboone1220 6 ай бұрын

Totally unrelated but a serious thought: If you had twin turbos, not compound, 1 small to spool quickly & 1 large to make big top end power, how would that work?

@richardholdener1727 6 ай бұрын

sequential turbos-works well

@MonzaRacer 3 ай бұрын

Im midding an Ls4 GXP so considering my trans selections i chise to keep my cam moderate and went with Elgin 1839/SS1.5 and its my daily so running at or over .600 lift is hard on valvetrain so im goin tbss, 50# injectors, 1839, obd macimizer headers, ill free. Up exhaust as best i can and choose the 4t80 with appropriate final drive and 3njoy my ride. And maybe down road ill add some squeeze,,,,,,

@user-rv4rz3ii5n 6 ай бұрын

what are the cam specs on the SS3 Great work

@richardholdener1727 6 ай бұрын

595, 238/242, 112

@adonismoore7938 5 ай бұрын

Do you think the ss3 would have ptv issues in a lq9 with ls3 heads?

@richardholdener1727 5 ай бұрын

yes

@djverhulst 6 ай бұрын

a lot of power for a 4.8 L atmospheric engine

@richardholdener1727 6 ай бұрын

this was a 5.3L-please see the 542-hp 5.3l vids

@justinphillip3200 3 ай бұрын

How would the sloppy stage 2 camshaft perform with a 5.3 l engine that has 11 to 1 compression?

@richardholdener1727 3 ай бұрын

same as it does with any other compression ratio. The compression just adds power to any cam

@Cultofpersonality09129 6 ай бұрын

Texas speed repackages the SS3 as the ms3 cam. It’s good on a high compression 6.0. The 1 is a good all around cam, the 1.5 is good if your going to run a converter. Imo. I bought a SS3 because it’s $300 and in a bored 6.0 with good heads and a big of nitrous it can’t be beat imo. As long as you buy a converter.

@Ls_swap211 5 ай бұрын

Wonder what the heads are making vs stock 862/706 heads ? I’m running the ss3 on a lm7 with tbss intake 92mm tb with 862s I home ported my 862 heads but I wonder how far it’s off vs the tf heads he uses

@richardholdener1727 5 ай бұрын

these TFS heads are the best I have ever seen, but not sure how much we are utilizing them with a mild combo

@Ls_swap211 5 ай бұрын

@@richardholdener1727 so they are probably making what 25-30ish hp over as cast stock heads ?

@canizales27oscar 5 ай бұрын

@@Ls_swap211Did you have an issue with piston to valve clearance with the ss3?

@Ls_swap211 5 ай бұрын

@@canizales27oscar nope I used a .55 btr gasket

@Ls_swap211 5 ай бұрын

@@richardholdener1727 what pushrods did you go with on the shaved heads ?

@DBSSTEELER 6 ай бұрын

I think you need to build your own LS dyno mule Richard. Sort of like the Gladiator small block. You could call it the Super Ritchie Mule. 4.125 bore and 4.125 stroke to really show THA GAINZ!

@cedricwilson2055 6 ай бұрын

Thing is most aren’t building sbe an head and or cam intake and roll out

@stlchucko 6 ай бұрын

Wish you also had a stock cam in there so there was a baseline

@jcanfixall1585 6 ай бұрын

You probably wish you understood the video as well...

@stlchucko 6 ай бұрын

@@jcanfixall1585 I understood it just fine. If you'd like to post the link to the video of this flat top piston TFS headed L33 with a stock cam so I can compare the curves, that' be great.

@cedricwilson2055 6 ай бұрын

@@stlchucko he has a few stock cam baseline videos. They usually start the same down low and roll off earlier, due to the short duration

@sKid-ts7hr 6 ай бұрын

I have a question can i stroke my l92 to 415 and run gt11 cam would it sound close to stock or it would be easily noticble ?

@richardholdener1727 6 ай бұрын

what are specs on GT11 cam?

@sKid-ts7hr 5 ай бұрын

@@richardholdener1727 .

@canizales27oscar 5 ай бұрын

Will the sloppy stage 3 cam have enough valve clearance on a stock Gen 3 5.3 with stock pistons & stock 706 heads?

@richardholdener1727 5 ай бұрын

yes

@canizales27oscar 5 ай бұрын

Thanks for the info! Appreciate it. @@richardholdener1727

@kennygarrett4501 12 күн бұрын

How streetable is the ss3 in a 3200 # car? 4l80 and 354 gears . Thanks

@richardholdener1727 12 күн бұрын

WHAT STALL?

@hayden6056 6 ай бұрын

Shame the stage 1.5 isn't on a tighter lobe seperation a 108 or 110 would make it a ripper little street cam.

@hefftoneGA 5 ай бұрын

Check into the Sloppy "Best"

@hayden6056 5 ай бұрын

@@hefftoneGA good looking cam only 1 degree of overlap at .050 still. A 110 would make 2 degrees a 108 would make 6 degrees. Around 5 degrees seems to work pretty well with an LS.

@stephanouellet3673 6 ай бұрын

Its my new cam on my Silverado SS 6.0 bored 6.2 ,stage 3 cam replace ss2,new 2'' headers replace 1 7/8,and 3600 stall replace 2500, very impatient to see the difference

@cmovezz3192 Ай бұрын

How you like the stage 3 compared to the 2? I’m building a 6.0 30 over and can’t decide on which one to use. It’s gonna go in a 95 Chevy single cab

@stephanouellet3673 Ай бұрын

I dont finished my motor,i will convert my stage 3 in solid lifters,i will try to complete this summer

@cmovezz3192 Ай бұрын

What made you wanna change from the stage 2 to the 3?

@zacharykelley359 5 ай бұрын

Sorry for asking a basic question that everyone knows but me…but if you don’t recommend this cam would you recommend for. A 5.3 truck?

@richardholdener1727 5 ай бұрын

need more info

@zacharykelley359 5 ай бұрын

@@richardholdener1727 well for me it’s a stock 2000 gmc sierra z71 single cab short bed want to cam it now and turbo later

@dayofleo8550 2 ай бұрын

Did you need to upgrade valve springs to run that stage 3 cam

@richardholdener1727 2 ай бұрын

we already had springs

@302hobronco 6 ай бұрын

Did they all share the same lobe seperation?

@richardholdener1727 6 ай бұрын

all but the SS1 had 112 lsa, the SS1 had 114

@derekchisholm6602 6 ай бұрын

What are the power numbers for that engine with a stock cam?

@richardholdener1727 6 ай бұрын

less than 400

@erickbernard8208 6 ай бұрын

Hey Hey Hey ( Fat Albert voice )

@JA-xv8qk 28 күн бұрын

How good do those ebay and Amazon cams hold up?

@richardholdener1727 27 күн бұрын

lots of horror stories with those

@Thumper68 6 ай бұрын

What’s the LSA on these cams this makes a lot of difference I imagine all these cams probably have to much LSA.

@richardholdener1727 6 ай бұрын

too much for what? and you don't even know what the LSA is

@Thumper68 6 ай бұрын

@@richardholdener1727 That’s why I asked what the LSA was first.And also why I said imagine as in I don’t know but I’m guessing the LSA is higher then optimal for peak output.

@jeremiah_c10 3 ай бұрын

What about nitrous instead of turbo for that big stage 3 cam

@richardholdener1727 3 ай бұрын

not sure we see much unless M1 or M5

@hallnvideos8400 5 ай бұрын

Any info on the sloppy "Best" cam?

@richardholdener1727 5 ай бұрын

see the sloppy best cam video

@adonismoore7938 5 ай бұрын

I have the ss3 in a lq4 which heads should I use I have 862 5.3 heads and 823 ls3 heads

@richardholdener1727 5 ай бұрын

823 MAKES A LOT MORE POWER-BUT LOWERS COMPRESSION

@adonismoore7938 5 ай бұрын

@@richardholdener1727 yeah that’s why I’m trying to get an opinion on which to use for a street car

@danielochoa9454 5 ай бұрын

862 Send it! Higher compression more torque and power below 6k RPM! Hey Richard! Would you recommend those EBay/Amazon Cams there low prices are attractive but not trying to get a cheeply made cam?

@gabelgabel255 5 ай бұрын

I REALLY NEED AN ANSWER..DID YOU DEGREE THE CAMS

@richardholdener1727 5 ай бұрын

why do you really need an answer...but the answer is no

@TRX199 3 ай бұрын

Does anyone know if the ss2 runs well on a 05 Cadillac cts

@richardholdener1727 3 ай бұрын

it will

@studio571 6 ай бұрын

No specs on the ss3 ?

@richardholdener1727 6 ай бұрын

595 lift, 238/242 and 112 I should have included all those

@jacobsmith1800 5 ай бұрын

Whats the link for the cams u used

@richardholdener1727 5 ай бұрын

Summit cam part numbers were provided

@v8trikebyers756 6 ай бұрын

Any chance of a 400 block 327 crankshaft combo build?

@lesliesimoson8124 6 ай бұрын

It's already been done the videos are on KZfaq the name of the videos is CE performance crate engine builds from 2 years ago. He also built one with a 283 crank. Very high winding but not much power output. Especially down low.

@lesliesimoson8124 6 ай бұрын

The engine in my profile picture is a 377 it loved to rev to 7500 rpm with a 650 solid roller and fully ported brodix track 1s 227cc

@cedricwilson2055 6 ай бұрын

Frieburger ran a 372 at one time on em

@cedricwilson2055 6 ай бұрын

Basically a 377 mirrors any other small cube engine. More displacement more torque. 406 more torque than a 377

@lesliesimoson8124 6 ай бұрын

@@cedricwilson2055 no not necessarily true a 377 is a very large bore short stroke engine. My engine was a 4.155 bore. It made 625hp and 535 lb ft of torque. Albeit at higher rpm, but when I added the nitrous it was insane torque

@dbaird8784 6 ай бұрын

Would a 383 stroker Ls be able to bring the low end torque back up to compensate for the low end loss the 5.3 has with the bigger cam?

@richardholdener1727 6 ай бұрын

bigger will help low speed

@jmac636 6 ай бұрын

Yep, I have a LS1 383 with a 242/244 and it lights the tires up on demand. 238/242 will have a little more torque down low and less hp up top in comparison.