The War of Art: Steven Pressfield

The War of Art: Steven Pressfield | Rich Roll Podcast

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Rich Roll sits down with author Steven Pressfield to discuss creativity, purpose, overcoming resistance, and his new novel 'A Man At Arms'. Read more about Steven here 👉🏾bit.ly/richroll584
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00:00:00 - Introduction
00:02:20 - Steven's Impact on Rich
00:05:40 - Steven on Writing the 'War of Art'
00:09:29 - The Plantpower Meal Planner
00:10:28 - Defining Resistance
00:13:03 - First Step to Conquering Resistance
00:16:07 - Rich's Resistance with Writing
00:19:24 - Balance of the Practical and the Mystical
00:22:39 - Going for Depth
00:24:18 - Distractions with Internet Technology
00:27:12 - Seeing Oneself as a Brand
00:31:53 - A Shameless Society
00:35:25 - War with the Self
00:43:20 - Steven's Fear of Success and Implosion
00:46:37 - Steven Runs Away Across America
00:51:53 - Hitting Rock Bottom and Using It as a Catalyst
00:58:10 - Why Does the Hero's Journey Still Work in Storytelling?
01:05:53 - The Warrior Ethos
01:11:00 - Embracing the Slog
01:13:04 - Being a Disciplined Grinder
01:16:34 - Turning Pro
01:20:10 - Takeaways for Getting Past Resistance
01:23:50 - A Day in Steven's Life
01:27:35 - Steven's New Book "A Man At Arms"
01:31:24 - Getting to "I Love You"
01:35:46 - Inspiration for the New Book
01:41:41 - Writing the Legend of Bagger Vance
01:44:46 - We're All Born with an Authentic Swing
01:52:29 - Difficulty Making a Golf Movie
01:53:42 - How Valuable is Talent?
01:57:02 - Life is Long
02:01:30 - Closing Remarks
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@MosesRabuka 3 жыл бұрын

“Life is long. Take some pressure off yourself, enjoy the trip pay attention keep your eyes open on the journey when it’s ready to happen it’ll happen”

@JonJosephKuhn 3 жыл бұрын

We are all at the destination right now.

@Stewbular 3 жыл бұрын

It doesn’t look as quite as long when seen from 67

@mathewforster389 2 жыл бұрын

💪

@rosyloveslearning3013 Жыл бұрын

❤

@nostalgic-one Жыл бұрын

Is it really long or is it short?

@kfmvmdksorm 2 жыл бұрын

What a sweet sweet sweet man, that is aware from head to toes.

@nicolakestel-lifestyleceo4040 3 жыл бұрын

I’m off to pick up my copy of The War Of Art today. I just turned 54 and have only just got out of my own way!

@workingfrocks5121 3 жыл бұрын

I'm 53 and when Mr P mentioned his first book published at 55 I thought, "That was the last hiding place of your excuses. Now go!"

@JonJosephKuhn 3 жыл бұрын

Awesome! I just sent a link to this talk to my mom. ❤️

@mcnallyaar 2 жыл бұрын

Great book!

@thewariscomingtoatownneary7572 2 жыл бұрын

Islam is the truth, come to Islam

@daniel_najar 3 ай бұрын

Better late than never

@EddyTritten 3 жыл бұрын

The only book I have read more than once

@christaknappen3355 3 жыл бұрын

Steven Pressfield is the most well accomplished and humble person. This man is truly a Buddha and has no idea. I’ve listened to War of Art at least 6 times and it is THE most accessible, transformational books I’ve read.Changed my life.

@Guitargate 3 жыл бұрын

WAR OF ART. It's been on my desk for years. Read it so many times. It's been one of my guiding lights in my creative journey. I highly recommend it, and thatnks Rich for getting him on the show!

@divineloverofbliss8933 2 жыл бұрын

Me, too. I have the audio. I listen to it over and over.

@carni6319 2 жыл бұрын

@@divineloverofbliss8933 I recently bought what I thought was an ebook and it turned out it was the audio book. I love it!! I walk daily and listen to this over and over.

@samantha-kemp-therapy 3 жыл бұрын

Theres a lot of love and respect here. I felt like I should have been sitting round a campfire.

@JackCarver_Reporting_in 3 жыл бұрын

I really think this is the best podcast for growth on KZfaq. Being still young (26) it's difficult to find people around my age that are willing to be vulnerable enough to show you that they're struggling too. So having these greatly achieved humans come talk about their blunders really is the best kind of company.

@quantumpotential7639 2 жыл бұрын

I soooo excited for your new growth. This makes me incredibly happy and grateful for you. Mistakes and blunders are air under our wings, not tree lines we're clipping and trying to avoid. If you're not making mistakes, then you're not learning. True gold does not fear the refiner's fire. So if gold rusts, what will iron do? I get sooo excited from this. Remember, God loves 💕 you and BELEIVES in you. Thanks 💕👍🥅💪🏋️😊🇺🇸🥧😀🍨🍦❤️

@monikapandey8792 Жыл бұрын

Yess😇

@albertpayaro2283 Жыл бұрын

Keep looking Jack. I am sure you will find the right people with whom you can be vulnerable and real

@majarubesa5850 Жыл бұрын

💓💗👍🧙 Btw, I'm 47 and still feel young ❣️❣️ 😉🤗

@Prograffable Жыл бұрын

We exist Jack, 29 here. Keep growing

@lydiasharp6070 3 жыл бұрын

Wow guys, wow...and thank you both.

@seraphimsanctuary 3 жыл бұрын

The war of art has helped me change my life and become a better Director. To be able to have these 2 people who both have given me a path forward both in sobriety and a methodology for the expression of creativity combat the resistance to both. I feel blessed for this talk today. Thank you Rich and Steven.

@anonaki-mt6xb 3 жыл бұрын

Wow. What a wonderful comment. I was listening to Rich discuss how Steven affected him as I read this. Thank you for sharing Sean )

@formidable2368 3 жыл бұрын

In the first 2-3 seconds when Mr Pressfield started speaking I already felt the positive energy and gratefulness...amazing podcast. Congratulations!

@yawni__emptysullivan840 3 жыл бұрын

I am always a big fan of blue collar writers who come into it later in life. He reminds me of bukowski. I love the blue collar ethic !

@KristinaAlbrecht 3 жыл бұрын

PLEEEEEEEEEASSSSE have him on again, this was fantastic

@jenniferrobinson9325 3 жыл бұрын

The positive energy in this interview is unparalleled and I so appreciate it

@middleverse3838 3 жыл бұрын

I had no idea Pressfield was this kinda energy. Pleasantly surprised.

@quantumpotential7639 2 жыл бұрын

He's highly respected in his particular discipline of excellence.

@jelizabethpetrie6656 3 жыл бұрын

Spoken with a few known writers in my time. That voice of resistance is there every time they start a new book. Then they start by reminding themselves they’ve accomplished this before. Just start with a germ of an idea.

@bettyglick2679 3 жыл бұрын

This was so enlightening

@sarahjaded 3 жыл бұрын

Everything I needed to hear right now... Trying to launch my business at the moment and the critic in my head keeps me awake at night picking my work apart...

@montygemma 2 жыл бұрын

As a painting tutor who is very experienced one of the first things I say to students is that there is a mountain of books out there on painting and inspirational subjects but there's only a handful worth having. The War of Art is definitely one of them. Many people think art is all about inspiration or genius, but like anything else success nearly always comes from dedication and hard work. Best book on tackling procrastination out there.

@cleokarma7818 2 жыл бұрын

WHAT AN EXCEPTIONAL GENTLEMAN Actually 2 incredibly exceptional men. Thank you for showing us that decency , respect , love , respect and hard work still count for something . For reinforcing the belief in the muse and the different examples of them through the ages. This was such an uplifting intelligent and enlightening podcast . Cant thank you both enough and all I can say is keep it coming and stay blessed . 🙌🏻❤️❤️✨✨✨✨🤗

@katherinecudney9204 3 жыл бұрын

Nothing in this world can take the place of persistence. Talent will not: nothing is more common than unsuccessful men with talent. Genius will not; unrewarded genius is almost a proverb. Education will not: the world is full of educated derelicts. Persistence and determination alone are omnipotent. ~ Calvin Coolidge

@yolandagaeta428 2 жыл бұрын

Great to see what a healthy male bonding looks like. Thanks Rich!

@juliet298 2 жыл бұрын

I've listened to this about 3 or 4 times, and I've bought and read 'The War of Art'. What a difference it's made, but I get benefit from coming back here to re-listen, just to keep myself dealing with resistance and imposter syndrome. Thanks for this Rich🙏

@meghan42 3 жыл бұрын

"And it is only the mind that is really capable of standing alone, in the sense of not belonging to any group, to any party, any community, any set of dogmas, beliefs, conclusions, it is only such a mind that can be creative. I think we have to go into that question of what is creation, what is it to be creative ..." Yup, it's a quote from Jiddu Krishnamurti.

@jasonvictor1798 3 жыл бұрын

Wow that ending remark "life is long". Def needed that reminder

@jimfrommars2591 3 жыл бұрын

One night I was layin’ down, I heard Papa talkin’ to Mama. I heard Papa say, to let that boy boogie-woogie ‘Cause it’s in him and it’s got to come out

@KokeBeast23 3 жыл бұрын

Couldn’t be a better guest for what I’m going through right now

@delphinekirkland1757 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks!!! Love this guy. Listened to "Do the Work" as well as this work years ago! Life changing for sure. Going to get that new book immediately!!

@anonaki-mt6xb 3 жыл бұрын

I simply cannot commit the time required to watch all of every one of Rich Roll's place-personaly-powerfully-representative-adjective-here discussions with some of the most truly extra-ordinary, demonstrably visionary folks alive today. I watched this discussion from beginning to end. Then, I downloaded the book and began reading as I wait for my hardcover copy to be delivered. In the forward of Steven's The War of Art, Rober McKee discussed making a slightly different distinction regarding his position regarding Book 3, 'The Higher Realm' being more genetic than representative of a 'higher realm'. I agree with them both, experientially. As G.I. Gurdjieff oft repeated, "Work as if everything depends upon work. Pray as if everything depends upon prayer". I subscribe to no particular religion or other 'belief system', yet am deeply, meaningfully informed by all spiritual traditions, mythology's, and respective sacred imagery. I can authentically offer the following: the very first time one is definitively touched by the 'higher realm', whatever form in which this may take place, there's simply no going back. Once the door is cracked, it opens, and the light...Such Existential Being expansion remains, for good. As my teacher said to me after a particular 'personal' singular experience, "Good. The door is now open". Indeed. Thanks Rich and Steven. Be Well All.

@Vestu 3 жыл бұрын

War of Art initially got me serious with music and my project Ace Buchannon. I got over my "resistance" by knowing what it is and why it is and how to approach it.

@ambrose75 3 жыл бұрын

absolutely affected my whole idea of going after my creative pursuits! this book was awesome! read it four years ago, and have now been rolling along making my creativity central in my daily life... in large part to many themes in this book.

@DJMIDIMACK 8 ай бұрын

Rich, thank you for all that you do. I am a BIG Steven Pressfield fan but it’s because of great interviews like this that I am also a BIG Rich Roll fan. Thank you. 👊🏽

@juderickman4584 3 жыл бұрын

This shows a different side of you, Rich. You are an elite athlete and your guest is someone who thought being offered a job on a ranch was hitting bottom. Bless your hearts.

@happydays9956 3 жыл бұрын

Had to pause this half way through. What an incredible conversation. I relate to every single thing steven is saying. Can not believe i haven't heard of the war of art.Life has been one hell of a struggle for me solely because of my negative procrastinated MIND. Been working on myself for a number of years,reading every book,exercising,meditating,cold therapy etc.. its so refreshing and a huge weight off the shoulders hearing other peoples stories with the same problem, that i am not alone. I cant believe he mentions the bit about washing the dishes and I'm standing here scrubbing away at mine. What a coincidence. Literally just paused the vid at this bit, phones all soapy and just bought the book. Cant wait to read it. Amazing

@mazgan3890 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Steven for saying all those things at the end about age and how things take time. Jah Bless.

@MicDrone 2 жыл бұрын

Chicago based videographer, artist and author. Great production on this video and thanks to both of you for being warriors cultivating warriors.

@iam_sne4n 5 ай бұрын

If you're here then trust me friend you got everything you're ever gonna need listen to this podcast fully and yes you then win in life

@juliesill8074 3 жыл бұрын

As always Rich your timing of guests and topics are the perfect complement to my life! ☮️ 🌱 🙏🏻

@taniateiri7265 Жыл бұрын

I am happy the universe connected me to Stephen via here then his podcast. Switching careers has me searching for deeper self realization of who I am. Just what I needed. My creative juices are flowing again. Kiaora!👋

@Levi_Allen 3 жыл бұрын

Oh wow! Now this gets my hyped. There is no book I recommend more than the War of Art. I regularly search to see if he’s done any new interviews and seeing Steven on your show in my subscription feed has me so excited! now time to give it a listen!

@JonJosephKuhn 3 жыл бұрын

Levi you changed my life. I just want you to know that. One day I was listening to you about the resistance, I closed out of the KZfaq tab and ordered business cards for myself. That was 3 years ago and it was one of the biggest days of my life.

@Levi_Allen 3 жыл бұрын

@@JonJosephKuhn woah Jon! That is rad to hear. Thanks for letting me know

@JonJosephKuhn 3 жыл бұрын

@@Levi_Allen it’s the truth man. I’m writing this to you in front of a job site where I’m using what I have learned about video to feed myself and my family. I remember the day I heard you basically give myself permission to start. Many other people had said similar stuff, but it was your voice and your video that finally made the beginning of a very journey “officially” begin.

@JohnSWren 3 жыл бұрын

@@JonJosephKuhn how’s it going now?

@JonJosephKuhn 3 жыл бұрын

@@JohnSWren it’s going great!

@0ptimal 6 күн бұрын

I watch a lot of things of this nature, but this talk is truly gold. I've listened to Stephen before, but i mustn't have been paying attention because his ideas are a revelation. And applicable to everyone because they are to do with fundamental aspects of mind.

@yawni__emptysullivan840 3 жыл бұрын

Yes!! A legend!! I feel the same way you do Rich. Mr. Pressfield is the best!!

@junlagramada2514 3 жыл бұрын

Best so far, Rich!

@BastosSandler 3 жыл бұрын

This is far away the best episode!

@powerpath659 Жыл бұрын

I am going back to college after listening to Stephen Prssfield.

@jon0830 2 жыл бұрын

war of art changed my life, thank you Steven

@egorpiskunov680 3 жыл бұрын

What a great conversation! It is like 2 men became best friends in the first 5 minutes. And what a pleasure to listen to the two of you! Thank you very much.

@TheSachinRK 3 жыл бұрын

Rich has the perfect voice and energy level to be a podcast host 🙂

@miggi8144 3 жыл бұрын

Rich, I think you'll have to get Steven back. He was just beginning to warm up and let his thoughts flow. Another time for sure.

@catsteinhilb2880 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you both; Rich you have introduced me to gem upon gem of the best humanity has to offer when I’ve needed the push to grow again, but THIS, this gentleman, Mr Pressfield, and what he is saying is resonating so profoundly I’m literally buzzing. I’m so grateful...Cannot/will not wait to read The War of Art

@authentic_tone Жыл бұрын

Rich's Tenacity & Professionalism with each guest is always very admirable

@magicmarker8421 3 жыл бұрын

Riveting interview. Thank you, both. 🙏

@devanshsadh8894 2 жыл бұрын

Whosoever hasn’t read “War of Art” I highly recommend it, it’s Worth itttt, the knowledge in it is pure gold 💯

@Stewbular 3 жыл бұрын

First hearing the title “the war of art” I instantly thought of “the Artist Way” “Resistance” brings Barbara Sher to mind She wrote & gave a lot of classes & formed groups about resistance I enjoyed this thoughtful & inciteful conversation

@SebasCoghi 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you! Great Episode, will get the book for sure.

@LeveragedFinance 2 жыл бұрын

The things that hold resistance dont nessecarily provide the most value. Podcasting which feels easier and fun to do and makes Rich more money than writing another book.

@mimmyloftinauthor 3 жыл бұрын

This was good. Steven is correct about life, timing, when the writer writes & my fav- ‘It’s your Soul unfolding’ concerning each book you work on.

@Jgotmilk555 Жыл бұрын

I agree that life is long. Enjoy the trip. Success will happen when it happens.

@MoikaloopTV 2 жыл бұрын

I love this man. His book really changed my life as an artist and for that I will be forever grateful.

@kyonas6047 2 жыл бұрын

the same here buddy i read the book/listened to someone explaining the whole thing and the idea stuck in my head and i couldn't forget what resistance is and how to beat its ass LMAO

@alexemery3045 3 жыл бұрын

Omg I love Steven. I’ve been through his book like 4 times. The war of art baby. Loooooove it.

@lisascott5670 3 жыл бұрын

What a lovely man Steven is- another phenomenal podcast!!

@tetranome2982 3 жыл бұрын

Love that you took this to another level Rich. Nice to hear Steven elaborate on his concepts.

@alexlorenz7 3 жыл бұрын

Mr. Pressfield is wonderful! I have ordered the War of Art and can't wait to read it

@101stores Жыл бұрын

Steven, you were a great impact on my life too. thank you.

@MrAugustopc 8 ай бұрын

I love this man, he changed my life, thank you for this interview!

@erinodonnell386 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for this. This podcast was something I really needed to hear right now, not just during COVID but just at this juncture in my life.

@leahparsons7907 3 жыл бұрын

Have to get this book. What a great conversation. I love being the hero of my own journey.

@PhillipDrumz 3 жыл бұрын

I’ll get his new book once I can afford it - aka pay day next Friday! Thanks for your work RICH- I have been sober for many years now - you rule! Thanks Stephen

@vibrationoftheone 3 жыл бұрын

Artists Way Books is one of my faves. I find people who didn't get much out of the book didn't do the exercises "self inquiry" The morning pages are something I live by to organize the inner disorganization. I read the War Of Art and felt really invigorated me and was happy that I already had a set of rituals. Like the cold shower. Spend time in silence for an hour or more. But it definitely is true that tools on how to engage the resistance are god send. Re framing your resistance and just taking the first steps is really empowering. It can really show you where your at when your reading a book and feel. Aha! And really kindred to the information presented. Or oh this is tough for me to read because it's causing me to self identify with the lack of just getting on with what you want to do. I think I feel the same way. When people ask you advice on how to do something it could be giving your power away. Or it may make us feel why are we sharing with people that like intellectualizing and not taking action. I find if you just don't tell people just start doing it because you believe in it is the best way to get the ball rolling. Also on the Vegan journey since 2011 but I didn't tell the world I just started to do it and doing my research. Energy levels GO UP! Healing and recovery, stamina. It was 2 years later people started to ask how did you do it or that you shouldn't. But then just said well already did it! I just didn't tell you why or what my reasons were for doing it. Resistance such a teacher and make it your friend. Which sometimes can take form of your friends. So keep your circle and round table a supportive one if at all possible. OR sometimes it's true you take a hard break and venture off your path and meet the new friends that are where you're at. Funny thing is the person that suggested I should read The War of Art went our separate ways. Thanks guys! This is really inspiring showing up just now. Ride the dragon. ;) morning pages are such a great tool for looking at your inner progress. Thanks for such a great in depth podcast. J Mini heroes journeys!

@lindenhillsjewelers7807 3 жыл бұрын

Steven was a HUGE influence for me as I began my own jewelry business 2 years ago. I can't say enough about how much he resonated with me and does. An absolute LEGEND. Thank you so much for having him on!

@simashakila 3 жыл бұрын

I was waiting for this one!!

@MsCristina38 3 жыл бұрын

Loved the book “Nobody wants to read your shit” from Pressfield on screenwriting. It was so funny and entertaining!

@serenesounds5410 2 жыл бұрын

this man doesnt like to "ramble on" but hes so interesting to listen to. self doubt isa hell of a thing.

@kimburleejostewartatmewell8147 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for introducing Steven Pressfield! This was a truly inspiring pod cast! I have just ordered The War of Art book!

@MosesRabuka 3 жыл бұрын

“O Divine Poesy goddess, daughter of Zeus sustain for me this song of the various-minded man... Make this tale live for us in all its many bearings, O Muse.”

@annieveganized9939 3 жыл бұрын

Life changing brilliance!❤️

@brentcantrell9334 3 жыл бұрын

Such a great title. Read it many times. I'd recommend to anyone. Especially non readers. It's super short with some chapters only a few sentences long. But its jam packed.

@mariannewolf57 5 ай бұрын

LOVE the energy of this wise and gentle man! Watching this for the third time- still finding gems. Thanks Rich for having Steven Pressfield on.- Love from Austria.

@loidepolli6132 3 жыл бұрын

This is life changing!

@JM-zi4in 3 жыл бұрын

Such a great guest!! One of my favorite authors! Awesome!

@BrianCarey 3 жыл бұрын

Just bought the War of Art. Thanks for this!

@srourfamily 2 жыл бұрын

war of art is a great book i believe in Jesus has our lord!! Mr.Pressfield and i agree about harmony for all of us!! But i believe as Christianity to be humble and charitable has given me a life with explorer. This a great book and glad to meet Steven many years ago> Have a great life and give back to others!!

@kokolores.4690 3 жыл бұрын

I cant put into words how much I needed this podcast without even knowing it. Thank you!

@MrJoshuaAwesome 3 жыл бұрын

Wow! This is such an exciting episode. I haven't had the time to watch one in a long time and wow :-) I'm really really enjoying it. One of these days I definitely need to dive into the artist way and his other books because this man is so World changer. How which describes Steven is almost identical to how I describe Rich to people who I meet :-) I'm guessing there's a lot of people that do the same :-) thank you both for existing :-) 💚 💚 💚

@FunLovingAnimals 3 жыл бұрын

Excellent discussion, Rich! It took a lot of courage on your part to acknowledge to Steven your own resistance felt as you wrote "Finding Ultra". Neither an Olympian nor an ultra winner, yet you knew that you had a message others needed to hear. As a "recovering attorney" myself preparing to launch my own memoir, I found comfort in your disclosure. Thank you. 🙏🏻

@JonathanORear 3 жыл бұрын

I just bought the war of art book

@timtucker2201 3 жыл бұрын

Oh man! I'm a HUGE fan of Mr. Pressfield's historical fiction (Gates of Fire is an amazing retelling of Thermopylae) AND I greatly admire Mr. Roll. Incredible convergence and fantastic interview. Thank you!

@GeorgeEdwardsVlog Жыл бұрын

This and Cal Newports “Deep Work” has gotten 5 short stories out of me since rehab.

@maxlbnv 3 жыл бұрын

Just so amazingly inspiring and reminding about the inner war and really only way to discover yourself. Thanks a lot !

@Self-Care-Embodiment-Coach Жыл бұрын

What an important and impactful conversation. It resonated!

@LaurenVacula 3 жыл бұрын

Steven's book literally changed the way i work. Thank you!! Excited to dig into this interview!

@ArtJournalLife 3 жыл бұрын

One of my favorite books of all time! Worth reading over and over. Thank you both!

@starfighter1972 3 жыл бұрын

I just purchased War of Art. I'm into the same war right now so this would be good for me to read.

@RallEeyeRedact 3 жыл бұрын

Needed to use a credit on audible, so thanks for the recommendation

@joseepepin9274 3 жыл бұрын

Such a blessing hearing this, the Universe answered through both of you, as this is exactly what I am going through and struggling... your words, your truth and honest heartfelt experience touched my heart and soul... I felt connected, supported and uplifted. Much gratitude 💕

@alexmurphy5289 2 жыл бұрын

Really great chemistry here…thank you. The cobwebs have built so heavily on me lately it’s absolutely unbelievable. This is a really important time for this book, resistance has eaten me alive during the pandemic

@mikimiki-s9g 2 жыл бұрын

I have no doubt this interview saves lives! Great interview!

@user-tv9yo4bx9h Жыл бұрын

This is one of the best Postcasts that i've ever heard. Thank you Rich for having Steven Pressfield!

@margarett_b 3 жыл бұрын

What an inspiring conversation. Feeling very motivated to finally pick this book up! Thank you so much guys for showing us this incredible side to overcoming what stops you from getting out of your comfort zone!