Please tell us which jazz box you like the best a 1978 Gibson L5, a 1993 Heritage Golden Eagle or a new Heritage Eagle Classic
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@guru63935 жыл бұрын
That L-5 though... All 3 are gorgeous but that L-5 hits me right in my soul
@reedmak775 жыл бұрын
They all sound wonderful! Mostly because of the color and finish, I'll have to go with the blondie 2018 Eagle Classic.
@Jeb_binch3 жыл бұрын
L-5 sounds more classic, but the Heritage axes are just a touch brighter in a way that I think improves their articulation and musicality.
@javsmith865 жыл бұрын
Love the Golden Eagle '93 sound..
@joephillips40825 жыл бұрын
Even as a long-time Heritage Super Eagle player, I was prepared to like the L-5 the best. However, I liked the Golden Eagle best among the three. I instantly liked the tone better than the L-5 and the appearance appealed to me more. The Eagle Classic absolutely kills it as well, in both appearance and sound. These are three guitars anyone would be proud to own and play.
@joedenisco60335 жыл бұрын
Rich, I think the L5 sounds like what an L5 should sound like, even with the thinner top (which was shocking). I think the Eagle classic comes close. The Golden Eagle sounds like an L5 through a cloud. Thank you for doing this. It proved to me that only an L5 is an L5.
@davidconnelly4 жыл бұрын
All three sound great. I would say they sound identical. Great playing. Thank you!
@jduncan10005 жыл бұрын
I've been partial to the L-5 for a long time. All of these guitars sound fantastic though!
@ejtonefan2 жыл бұрын
All three guitars had a wonderful jazz tone. The Gibson L-5 sounded the warmest of the three and would be outstanding for comping. The Heritage Golden Eagle sounded tight and punchy and would be great for soloing. The Heritage Classic sounded tight and punchy and a bit warmer than the Golden Eagle making it my favorite tonally of the three.
@RichSeversonGuitar2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for weighing in, Mark!
@jazzman19544 жыл бұрын
Probably the only guy out there qualified to demonstrate these guitars. Beautiful playing.
@shaft90003 ай бұрын
I played a late '70s L5 and a 2020s GoldenEagle yesterday @ Angelo Metz's place. SUBLIME. (got his PhD in Jazz Guitar @ USC, btw ;)
@heavenlyguitar59134 жыл бұрын
All three are great. I noticed the second guitar seemed to have more volume and a slightly brighter tone but all three sound gorgeous. The third guitar seemed to have more bottom end. Rich’s playing is sweet. Rich you have a great touch on the guitar. Thank you for posting this.
@jerryanderson9161 Жыл бұрын
I like the Eagle Classic.
@googo1512 жыл бұрын
YOU'RE A PHENOMENAL PLAYER AND I THANK YOU SIR, FOR YOUR FINE DEMOS. FROM NYC, THANKS AGAIN.
@arthurhyde84283 жыл бұрын
I have a 2018 exactly like the one you reviewed. I couldn't justify the price of an L5 also, I have had issues with Gibson quality. I couldn't talk the good folk at Heritage into a a floating pickup Golden Eage like the one you reviewed in the other video. In the end, though, I am super satisfied with the quality, finish, playability and tone of the Eagle Classic. My concerns over the pickup were not a big deal. I think it is about the best guitar value out there -- I love it.
@leafcountry8882 жыл бұрын
demo timestamps L-5 2:12 golden eagle 5:39 eagle classic: 9:36
@gusmartins16603 жыл бұрын
You could make a broom sound great with your touch. Very nice. Love to have them all.
@UnicoATX3 жыл бұрын
just stunning.. all three are gorgeous with you playing them! less dark, more dark- is the main thing difference I hear..
@victormilianti579523 күн бұрын
They all sound beautiful! To me, you seem to take just a bit more time in phrasing when playing the L5, like it wants you to listen just a bit more. It has such a soul warming essence.
@lorenzopetrocca4 жыл бұрын
1 L5, 2 classic, 3 golden eagle
@davekana83884 жыл бұрын
God Bless the Child, all three have that wonderful archtop sound!
@otamardecarvalho5 жыл бұрын
All the models of three guitars (Gibson L5 and two Eagles) are beautiful.
@ddw1324 жыл бұрын
First, you make all those guitars make great music. But, to choose, the L5 is my preference by a nose over the Second one (G Eagle?). By contrast the CEagle sounded darker overall. Maybe I’m swayed by your comment that the L5 top was thinner, however that’s exactly how they I perceived the tone and liveliness. To the eye the second was very beautiful but I’d find it hard to walk past the L5 for sentimental reasons.
@L5player Жыл бұрын
They're all beauties. I bought my L5 new in 1971, but it's a '68 model with the sharp Florentine cutaway, and the tone is as sweet as you might imagine. The finish is still as original, no checking, as it has spent 90% of its life in the case. Unfortunately, the original nitro pick guard material deteriorated badly, so I had to have many of the gold parts replaced at Gibson's shop in Nashville.
@tomculhane66482 жыл бұрын
Eagle Classic is nice. Would like it with fretboard inlays. All are beautiful.
@krokobaldo Жыл бұрын
I agree !!
@adamwatson69162 жыл бұрын
The 70s gibson L5 solid body is also a fantastic guitar. I heard a 1975 L5 solid body which had the low output version of the Gibson super humbucker/tarback pickups designed by Bill Lawrence the neck was 5.1k and the bridge was 7.5k and they had a short ceramic magnet which is a weird pickup choice for a guitar like a L5s but they sounded fantastic and they nailed rhe mid 70s jimmy page tone .
@KlausPeterFriedl4 жыл бұрын
One for the Heritage! Simply love it.
@threeleafflutes5 жыл бұрын
They all sound fantastic. Each has its own voice. The heritage guitars, esp. the Classic seem to have more clarity of individual notes. The Gibson seems to have more depth. thanks
@daveanderson56805 жыл бұрын
All 3 are gorgeous but I suppose the blonde Eagle Classic has the voice I like best...probably the Seth Lovers p/u’s
@Chiller112 ай бұрын
I like your solution. One of each
@3r1cratpool22 Жыл бұрын
i want one!!! 😑 i want to be able to not want to go back to my older too. i find that white knob is brighter than black knob too. thanks for sharing. wonderful guitar, super great tone
@girliedog Жыл бұрын
Your playing is a joy to watch.
@4578a3 күн бұрын
The last one sounds the best
@mwpv112 жыл бұрын
I had that exact L5 and it was a great instrument. Unfortunately I had to sell it. Maybe another in my future but I do like they Heritage as well
@hkguitar19842 жыл бұрын
Thank You for sharing your guitars with us. I've been a Practicing Guitarist since 1974, all of those Arch Tops are beautiful. I'd say the L-5 is my favorite if for no other reason I've wanted one since taking lessons back in '74 and seeing one at the store. The Heritage are (IMHO) every bit the equal of the L-5, to own any of those would count a Player as fortunate. I'm a New Subscriber, Thank You Rich
@jamestonguet17372 жыл бұрын
gorgeous tone for all three. Flame maple backs came from the violin tradition
@bluzman002 жыл бұрын
I’ve owned all three. The Golden Eagle was my favorite until I bought a Super Eagle. Heritage makes great guitars.
@peterbrooks539 Жыл бұрын
All nice sounding and looking guitars. I have a 1986 Golden Eagle natural finish with floating neck pickup that sounds and looks great. I thought the Eagle Classic was the best option money wise and would be my choice if starting out.
@russk197118 күн бұрын
The Heritage is my choice here. I will have to play the golden eagle and the eagle classic to see what feels better.
@robertgreen37023 жыл бұрын
Masterful playing....so beautiful.
@Gitfidlpickr Жыл бұрын
I have an L5 and I love it
@janviljoen70012 жыл бұрын
Mr Severson is a true artist with a philosophical knack.
@4gcole5 жыл бұрын
It sounds like the Golden Eagle has a quicker response than the L5 but I like the Eagle Classic :)
@robertnewingham3763 ай бұрын
I'm partial to the L5 because of the Wes Montgomery connection but if I were buying it would be the Eagle Classic. The sound difference is negligible but the price difference is astronomical.
@RichSeversonGuitar3 ай бұрын
I fully agree! I like my Heritage archtops more than my Gibsons.
@fepatton4 жыл бұрын
They all sound amazing, however I suspect you'd make a ratty old Kay sound great. I hope it's not wrong to want the L-5 because it's...the L-5! I just love them. Maybe someday. :-)
@guntrenr4 жыл бұрын
Rich, I misplaced your email... Re: heritage 4 sale I’ll send email Ray@midbellmusic.com
@ronaskew5 жыл бұрын
Newer hollow body guitars seem to follow similar standards like making the tops and backs thicker. This results in less acoustic influence on the sound as the price for reducing feedback. I like the more resonant and complex sound only available on a hollow body with thinner tops and backs. If I wanted a sound influenced only by strings and pickups, I’d play a solid body.
@daw1624 жыл бұрын
I can't say it's always the case, but I have had a golden eagle (it was a bit dull, but i didn't play a bunch of them - just ordered one from the factory at heritage around 2003 or so - maybe it wasn't a good one). I've since bought two used Eastman AR910CEs, and the design is different so it's hard to make a direct comparison, but one of them is absolutely alive acoustically. Loud, bold, resonant. I am not a 100% fan of any one brand, so that shouldn't be construed as saying all eastman's are great - I have no experience with the lower models, and two of their other guitars (a flat top and a les paul copy with varnish) that I bought used were pretty uninspiring, the latter having some stability issues. The 910s averaged $1350 each, so it was hard to resist trying them. I agree about the newer guitars being tighter, but don't know for sure why that is (if it's top thickness, wood sourcing, etc). I doubt most of the factory makers really give someone the time to go through, select and cater the top carve to the piece of wood used - they're probably just knocked out and sanded after a CNC or duplicarver setup. It seems better these days just to cycle through a few used guitars to find what you want. I lost a lot of money on the golden eagle when I let it go since I bought it new and it wasn't really a good player acoustically - it took a long time for elderly to sell it for me. A good learning experience, and one not to repeat.
@genec83932 жыл бұрын
@@daw162 I bought 2 GE at different times. The 2nd one was used and had a great sound. I traded a guitar in for the factory ordered GE and that guitar now is worth double the GE. I bought into the "Heritage" story. Bad investment.
@stevebuckerfield38685 жыл бұрын
The new Eagle is just sublime. Easily the best choice. And now we can buy them in London!!
@omrizlikovitch97262 жыл бұрын
Where in london? Im trying to find one to buy..
@stevebuckerfield38682 жыл бұрын
@@omrizlikovitch9726 Anderton’s Music - outskirts of the city stock Heritage models now. A Denmark st shop had a few but now disrupted by the refurbishment sadly. Happy shopping. Steve .
@Landerdog2 жыл бұрын
All good. At a certain point, that all 3 surpass, it's up to the player. We shouldn't discount pick thickness, amplification, fingers, or technique. A great player can sound good on an Ibanez Artcore. These are beautiful and what a player would want.
@pnojazz3 жыл бұрын
Each sounds like a very capable instrument in the hands of a pro like you Rich!
@revelationsoundstudio Жыл бұрын
The L5 IA the classic jazz sound if that is what you want. I prefer the more open sound of the Heritage.
@MrTroposphere5 жыл бұрын
Delicious playing as always, thankz so much. The L5 has it by a long shot, listen to that mystical attack followed by such creamy smoothness, only a top Gibson jazzbox can do that and, O God, I am saving my pennies in the pig.
@richardfinette85065 жыл бұрын
Great guitars...however more importantly, wonderful feel and beautiful playing..that's the magic!
@picker615 жыл бұрын
You DO know Heritage is 100% the Gibson of old...it's 100x the quality of modern Gibson
@gf122 жыл бұрын
I've owned two of the three plus a Gibson ES-175 and the L-5 was a winner hands down. The dark tones gave me inner chills and the highs just sparkled. The ES-175 would have been number two. The lows weren't as deep as the L-5 but, everything else was sweet. The Golden Eagle was ok, but, something was missing. My high end guitars are gone now , but, I still l have the cherished memories. Gary Flagg Buffalo, N.Y.
@RichSeversonGuitar2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for sharing this! It really is hard to beat the L5! I appreciate you watching and commenting, Gary!
@gf122 жыл бұрын
@@RichSeversonGuitar Hi Rich, I'm always enriched by your instructive and entertaining videos. Thanks to you I learned about the Quilter Micro Pro and now am loving my own w/cab for several years. I always appreciate your choice of material(music and gear), and of course superb playing, my favorite is the chord melodies. Looking forward to future videos. Regards, Gary Flagg Buffalo, N.Y.
@snellyd3 жыл бұрын
i really like the way you demo all the guitars
@Esaw1003 жыл бұрын
Absolutely Fabulous Guitarist and Guitars!
@kenster8657 ай бұрын
Just stumbled across your site here. I love what Heritage is doing in the archtop arena but I just hate the look/shape of the headstock. It doesn't look right to my eyes. I had a Heritage Super Eagle in the early 2000's and loved the way it played and sounded. The headstock just turned me off and I sold it. Probably was a big mistake. I've lusted after an L5 for years and finally have the dollars to get one. I'm 72 and need to make this decision soon as I may not have too many more years to go, just sayin' buddy. Guitar has been my whole life starting in 1961! Currently have an Asian built Epi archtop which I changed the floating pu out. It sounds and plays decently. I also picked up a used Gibson ES-175 in a cherry red finish. Regardless, I think the L5 is the cream de la cream. Of course, there's Benedetto's to consider as well. 😉
@grantgre Жыл бұрын
The L5 has a little more bass to it and it’s got a little more grit a little more attack. I don’t know I think it’s a little bit deeper than the heritage probably I looked on Reverb today and an L5 is going for anywhere from like eight grand to 15 grand.
@grantgre Жыл бұрын
The L5 is such a weird guitar because in it’s electric form The wood is pretty thick and it doesn’t resonate that well compared to a thinner cut of wood like in the purely acoustic L5 s on the other hand sometimes it has such a great electric sound. and even the older L fives from the 60s that had that weird bridge with the white saddles that Wes played has a totally different sound than the newer ones. I was always wondering if that saddle made the difference with Wes which is like a bell like note sound that when he plays single not lines if you try to play that on the newer ones you don’t quite get the same sound . yeah so it’s quite interesting. I played an L5 from the 60s that had that sound and it was all beat up and I should’ve bought it at the time because Mandolin had a whole bunch of them. Because it was all beat up. I didn’t buy it.
@ES175jazz4 жыл бұрын
They all sound good. If you want to sound like the older guys like wes get the L5. The heritages that I've played have had high tonges and would need some filing down on the last 5 frets or so. This was also true with a 95 es 175 that I had. But you should compare these guitars to maybe a D'angelico - new or even ibanez budget models. These newer lower budget guitars sound amazing and are about 1/10th the price of these pups and they have great fret work believe it or not.
@jacobbrown16904 жыл бұрын
get an epiphone broadway
@ES175jazz4 жыл бұрын
@@jacobbrown1690 Epiphones are good too. lots of great choices for players these days!
@genec83932 жыл бұрын
So true. The top 5 frets.
@ozotel4 жыл бұрын
I think that Gibson pickups produce more rounded sound in comparisson with Schaller’s. Schaller pickups are louder, but it lacks of midrange because the bottom end is too big. Eagle classic has ebony bridge, so it sounds a bit more different than first two guitars. Thinner top of L5, also is more responsive. Interesting fact: Gretsch archtop guitars from golden era also had thinner tops with the same result - they were more responsive. I think, that the main reason why companies start making thicker tops is feedback. Unfortunately, another side of coin is lack of responsiveness.
@stevepierce51082 жыл бұрын
Superb Rich!!!
@RichSeversonGuitar2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching and commenting!
@Tonetwisters Жыл бұрын
Always good to have a guitar that is better than you are! They are inspiring, and make you want to play them and grow into them ... that's after 61 years of playing ... And you are PLENTY worthy of an L-5 ... And the amp you are running through makes a big difference in tone, whatever it is. The L-5 sounded wonderful. But I think both Heritage guitars have a bit more dynamics and articulation ... just my nearly 76 year-old ears. And the Eagle is the prettiest. I don't think Gibson is making the L-5, here in 2023.
@2hardbackrub7435 жыл бұрын
I would feel like a boss playing any of them... and I'd prefer the classic over the goldie, but something about that L5, just seems to have more of "that sound". Some slight refinement in the tone of the highs when you play the chords, like a deep sour cherry. I'll keep playing the lotto xD. Nice video Rich!
@DavideSchachterJazz4 жыл бұрын
It might just be the age of the L5
@blacjazzz4 жыл бұрын
DavideSchachterJazz I think it is. Playing an instrument “in”‘definitely opens it up.
@megagatvol Жыл бұрын
All have a gorgeous tone…but I’ll have to go with the L5…
@bluesman974 жыл бұрын
For my taste I like the Classic..
@tomasvanecek8626 Жыл бұрын
The L5 sound is just unmistakable. It is THE sound.. with flatwounds... yes.. Now - swapping pickups in hollow/semi guitar IS a big deal.. ever went fishing through the f-hole for a lost pot ? Gosh.. better get it right the first time... 😂 and never have to do it again... I´ve played a few Heritages, years ago, hoping to get me the Gibson sound... but it never happened. Same guys building them.. IDK, it just wasnt the same.
@500fatdog4 жыл бұрын
What a nice guy.....fair and impartial....of 3 great guitars...
@wisnuadiputra48434 жыл бұрын
3:37 Montgomery sound 😍
@Trombonology5 жыл бұрын
I think our hearing tends to be engaged when our eyes are on the headstock. ... I love the sound of all three -- perhaps in large part because you play so well, Rich -- but the Eagle Classic comes closest to my ideal, which I realize is brighter than what seems to be commonly defined as "jazz tone."
@petedonaghyguitar4 жыл бұрын
I was fortunate enough to pick up one of the Epiphone Elitist Broadway guitars they made in Japan for a couple of years. I always thought they should have made a Wes Montgomery version in the Elitist factory. It would have been a steal at 2000$ compared the the 11,000$ Gibson wants now.
@docpearson3 жыл бұрын
I have never listened to a more beautiful jazz sound in my life when I heard that 1978. L5 Gibson you just played. It’s like all your life you are looking for that sound and not really knowing what it will be until it’s there and all of a sudden music like an angelic Choir just came down from heaven. My heart was broken to see that it is has been sold. I have found in the past that sometimes you’ll find a great guitar but even been listening to another model of the same type it just doesn’t have that sound. I wonder if all the L5’s sound this beautiful. PS could you please please please tell me what pick ups were in that L5. You did not tell us on this video.
@RichSeversonGuitar3 жыл бұрын
They were the stock pickups for the time. The fellow I sold it to replaced them with some 60's model throbacks and says it even sounds better. Consider a Heritage Eagle
@docpearson3 жыл бұрын
@@RichSeversonGuitar I like those pick ups. If I ever get in there at five I hope it sounds like that one. Thank you
@docpearson3 жыл бұрын
@@RichSeversonGuitar I listened to your video over and over many times. I personally liked the L5. I think it smoked the heritage. But all things are subjective and other people may like the Heritage. That is why i wanted so so so so bad to know what pickups they were. Do you know what stock pickups they used.
@mercury4metal5 жыл бұрын
The Gibson L5 has to be the best sounding of Jazz guitars. Even better than the Gibson 335, or 355.
@dananthony62584 ай бұрын
I’m shallow. I’m a mush for the Gibson headstock . Always have been always will. It’s the same with fender guitars. You just know it’s going to do the thing it’s supposed to do.
@lkgreenwell4 жыл бұрын
Love them all, but on first hearing I’d have to go with the Classic. Hairy price!
@FloydManFloyd Жыл бұрын
I find a white knob is a little brighter than a dark knob too rich.
@jesterkatz2234 жыл бұрын
Heritage classic sounds best for my personal preference. More balanced. L5 was too dark. Golden eagle was nice but little bright.
@raefblack79062 жыл бұрын
sounds Golden
@bluesdog36215 жыл бұрын
You're right all beautiful guitars, and you make them sound great! my favorite is the 2018 Heritage,very nice. thanks for the demo.
@Flat5Henry2 жыл бұрын
That Eagle Classic sure held its own up against that Golden Eagle and the L5, didn't it?
@sonijam3 жыл бұрын
#1 L5 #2 Eagle Classic #3 Golden Eagle
@sparnz8811 Жыл бұрын
Hi Rich. I cannot afford a Gibson L5 at this moment so as a Students I am appropriately considering the Ibanez GB10se or an Eastman AR503CE SB or AR803CE which doesn’t seem to be available! Please let me know what you think and advise me as there are other options. Thank you 🎉
@vicbarker5739 Жыл бұрын
i want to improve the pick ups on my inbanez looking for a smooth jazz sound can you suggest what i should be loking for
@ThePdxster2 жыл бұрын
I bought an Eagle Classic back in the early '90s. Well built but I still prefer the sound of the L-5. Considering many of the same guys that worked for Gibson stayed in Kalamazoo and went to work for Heritage, including the famed Gibson tap-tuner (can't recall his name) I always wondered if tap-tuning the top and swapping out the pickups for Classic '57s would give the Eagle Classic the same sound as an L-5 at roughly half the cost??
@donarmando9163 жыл бұрын
Like em all but really the Heritages do hold up to the L5 and i think they are quite a bit less expensive.
@thelowmein91434 жыл бұрын
Purely aesthetic, but I wish they’d jazz up (pun intended) the neck and headstock of that classic, maybe some inlays or the eagle design on the headstock.
@RichSeversonGuitar4 жыл бұрын
Agreed but they are going for a more affordable instrument with still the same quality feel and tone Who knows they my bring back the Golden Eagle , that had glam.
@robbyclark69154 жыл бұрын
That’s some awesome playing!
@RichSeversonGuitar4 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@daveyandell2017Ай бұрын
At the 2:12 mark you play a song. it is beautiful. What is the name of that sone?
@lorenzopetrocca3 жыл бұрын
L5
@reedmak775 жыл бұрын
On the acoustic test the 2018 had a much bigger sound.
@jazzthing71572 жыл бұрын
Nice review, thank you very much! Bought a modified Eagle Classic in 2006 with 1 Seth Lover and block inlays. This is basically a Heritage version of the Gibson Wes Montgomery at half the price. Sounds and plays beautifully and I would take her to a deserted island. Acoustically very fresh and loud enough for practicing and a tonal beauty on the amp. Interesting side note: The guys at Heritage placed the tone and volume controls close to the rim. I prefer this over the Gibson placement on the Wes Montgomery, where the tone and volume control are located closer to the PUs. But how often do you really change the setting when playing such a guitar? I like it, because it leaves the top as unaffected as possible, even though this might have a slight "voodoo touch".
@RichSeversonGuitar2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comments, Jazzthing71! An Eagle Classic is a phenomenal guitar! And that is an interesting thought about the knobs. But it makes sense to keep that top as unaffected as possible.
@donlessnau39834 жыл бұрын
I think he's playing an L5-CES not an L5. The original Montgomery L5 had no cutaway and just one PUP. He's holding an L5-CES, not an L5.
@billb14135 жыл бұрын
I have a 90's Eagle Classic which I love (after swapping the neck pickup for a 57 PAF). A great guitar. But the L-5 has that extra something to the sound. Not that it's worth the extra $$, unless money's no object for you. All three sound great though!
@steveb93255 жыл бұрын
That's exactly why it's worth the extra money. Sound/tone playability. Know what you mean about dead presidents though.
@MartinLang16253 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Great Vid!
@3r1cratpool22 Жыл бұрын
il take it
@jasonwilcox6334 Жыл бұрын
Well Im late to this party but... there are no losers in this race!
@James-hb6ee4 жыл бұрын
I think I liked the Golden Eagle the best. but feel free to send me whichever one you don't want! I liked the blonde looks of the Eagle Classic. What is the knob for on he upper horn of the Golden Eagle?
@hermanbril26824 жыл бұрын
LOVE the L5 btw....
@patrickh92264 жыл бұрын
Beautiful playing, talking points well made, and NICE axes!
@GoneSailingCA Жыл бұрын
Thanks Rich, good information, do you have any opinions on a 1990 L5 CES, was that a good era for the L5? I’m not much of a player but thinking of buying one
@RichSeversonGuitar Жыл бұрын
I'd say its a good year
@Rightupbass Жыл бұрын
Golden Eagletomy ears
@TheIkaika7772 жыл бұрын
Heritage guitars are the REAL deal!
@pinacoco24 жыл бұрын
There is no better or worse here. All 3 sound like an archtop should do. I personally like the heritage eagle best, because of the look. Soundwise all of them are killer.
@jfmax20005 жыл бұрын
Awesome Demonstration Rich.. Ya Gotta Love Em All.. But That 5 Man.. :) (y)