Why Everyone Hates Half-Life: Source

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Richter Overtime

Richter Overtime

Жыл бұрын

Half-Life: Source is the most* controversial game in the series, but is it really that bad?
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*Not counting Hunt Down The Freeman

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@RichterOvertime
@RichterOvertime 8 ай бұрын
Today's the 25th anniversary of Half-Life 1 and Valve has now officially de-listed Half-Life: Source from Steam Pretend I put a Breaking Bad walter white "I won" gif here or something lmao
@hyperhypa
@hyperhypa 8 ай бұрын
Because of this video, I have bought the game and I'm going to play it as my first half-life game. Also, apparently you can still buy from a bundle and it gives both Half-Life: Source and Half-Life Deathmatch: Source.
@Ne_Ne_Vova_UA
@Ne_Ne_Vova_UA 8 ай бұрын
I've bought every hl game, and playing for the first time, should i take my money for hl source and hl deathmatch source?
@swlchl
@swlchl 8 ай бұрын
I just came back to this video after this happened to see what people would say!
@Ne_Ne_Vova_UA
@Ne_Ne_Vova_UA 8 ай бұрын
@@showey no, i haven't gmod
@meric12131415
@meric12131415 8 ай бұрын
​@@TaxiCabColeyou sure that was the reason so modders can still use it?
@Silverman160Zero
@Silverman160Zero Жыл бұрын
For as careful as Ross was when making Freeman’s Mind, I still remember a bug where a security guard's body fell through a grate in a hall. He played it off but I forgot how.
@numnaut1314
@numnaut1314 Жыл бұрын
Don't forget the hopping houndeye, that was funny.
@SourGummiWyrm69
@SourGummiWyrm69 Жыл бұрын
@@numnaut1314 "Today's lesson is on muzzle energy and momentum!" as it does a springboard jump into the green soup below the catwalk
@Guymanbot97
@Guymanbot97 Жыл бұрын
@@numnaut1314 "Yeah go do your little dance, you freak!" Probably one of the lines that sticks in my head the most from that series.
@DSaC_
@DSaC_ Жыл бұрын
He legit just looked away really quickly and continued as if he saw nothing.
@CatsT.M
@CatsT.M Жыл бұрын
Episode 47, he killed a Barney and just looked away to shoot some H.E.C.U
@jimbo2revengeance
@jimbo2revengeance Жыл бұрын
There was a specific point in time, circa 2006, where Half-Life GoldSRC was barely compatible with most newline GPU's, due to it's dependencies on old obsolete drivers, and Half-Life: Source was the main way to play. What a lot of people don't realize, that the reason HL1 runs so well nowadays, is because Valve actually went back, and kept updating it.
@Josh-le6lu
@Josh-le6lu 11 ай бұрын
I remember that but as recently as 2010.
@jimbo2revengeance
@jimbo2revengeance 11 ай бұрын
@@Josh-le6lu Could be, the steam pipe update launched around 2012-15, and honestly i have no idea when the Half-Life update happened.
@RUNTER_18
@RUNTER_18 10 ай бұрын
i got a trashy old computer so i should be fine
@giovannibongiorno186
@giovannibongiorno186 9 ай бұрын
@@RUNTER_18yeah, they fixed those issues a long, long time ago.
@meric12131415
@meric12131415 8 ай бұрын
​@@RUNTER_18ah you got a potato fantastic enjoy it man😁
@kenshiku
@kenshiku Жыл бұрын
4:39 what kind of goddamn milk are you drinking
@skinskinner
@skinskinner 3 ай бұрын
real
@realskii
@realskii 29 күн бұрын
Why is your milk green?
@Austen54
@Austen54 Жыл бұрын
i hope the game isn't ever fixed I love seeing all the strange bugs as the game decays over time
@AnnaSue81
@AnnaSue81 Жыл бұрын
@Inhuman the literal
@SlumpDrunko
@SlumpDrunko Жыл бұрын
Truly the real Half-Life Decay was the game we broke along the way
@newolku
@newolku Жыл бұрын
It's in the name. Half life
@Giygas-c5n
@Giygas-c5n Жыл бұрын
I agree
@El_Descarriado
@El_Descarriado Жыл бұрын
Gabe finally got his real-time moss. Except instead of moss, it's degenerating code.
@F_I_J_I_W_A_T_E_R
@F_I_J_I_W_A_T_E_R Жыл бұрын
The HD models being lifted from a GameBanana mod is the real icing on the cake.
@sparkywilson1405
@sparkywilson1405 7 ай бұрын
5:30: If that's what the milk looks like at the store in your area I would be VERY concerned
@BlahGuyson
@BlahGuyson Жыл бұрын
MAD respect for the Gman Squad shoutout. It's one of my favorite forgotten early internet relics and I adore it in its own way to this day.
@SovietMarmalade
@SovietMarmalade Жыл бұрын
I am a Gen Z-er, and I remember G-Man Squad very vividly. Not sure how old it was when I watched it, but I definitely remember watching it when KZfaq still had stars and the yellow subscribe button. Feels weird being called one of the older ones, cuz that shit was honestly one of the reasons Source games hold a very special place in my heart.
@BlahGuyson
@BlahGuyson Жыл бұрын
@@SovietMarmalade For real man. It came out when I was in high school, so had to be at least 2008. Crackbone still lives rent-free in my head to this day.
@niichhe
@niichhe Жыл бұрын
got them braindawgs
@RichterOvertime
@RichterOvertime Жыл бұрын
@@niichhe I GOT THEM BRAIN DAWGS!!!!
@niichhe
@niichhe Жыл бұрын
@@RichterOvertime IM ON YOUR ROOF, I WAS LOOKING FOR MY CAR KEYS
@DaRealBruner
@DaRealBruner Жыл бұрын
I love how for some random reason, the viewmodel for the pistol gives Gordon these red triangles on his fingers instead of orange. I'm guessing Valve did a lil' dumdum and accidentally used like an early viewmodel texture on the hands, since in some pre-release screenshots, you can see the suit was originally red.
@havoc3-243
@havoc3-243 Жыл бұрын
Yep, and there's a lot of pre-release leftover assets in Half-Life Source. Such as textures for a dumpster model.
@kebab_hill
@kebab_hill Жыл бұрын
These red models are also found inside the models folder in Half-Life, not to mention the SDK
@CourierSiix
@CourierSiix 10 ай бұрын
​@goobelius.gjoobertwrong
@rasputin15832
@rasputin15832 Жыл бұрын
The Source: fixed mod does a great job at fixing it and it's really an amazing way to play the game
@STAIR_WAY14
@STAIR_WAY14 Жыл бұрын
How to download it?
@STAIR_WAY14
@STAIR_WAY14 Жыл бұрын
@@rasputin15832 thx bro, i needed this
@jtsuxatgames
@jtsuxatgames Жыл бұрын
I love HL:S Fixed. I have a lot of nostalgia attached to Half-Life: Source, as it was the first HL game I ever played back when I was a kid. I remember when I played it, it wasn't nearly as buggy and broken as it is now. I don't know what the hell happened to it but it's clear Valve doesn't really care about it anymore as much as it does the other HL games. HL:S Fixed fixes nearly everything wrong with HL:S and I love it.
@SirYodaJedi
@SirYodaJedi Жыл бұрын
I appreciate the effort the modders put into fixing the game, but Half-Life: Source just isn't Half-Life: Source without all the bugs. There's something charming about the jank that makes it more fun to play and laugh at. It's a case of being so bad it's good, I guess. If I wanted a stable version of Half-Life with prettier graphics, I'd probably use Xash.
@christiangottsacker6932
@christiangottsacker6932 Жыл бұрын
@@jtsuxatgames i think a major part of why it gets jankier is when steam updates all source games, they dont even touch HL source. So it gets the tweaks to the engine but essentially for every other game and it confuses tf out of HL. Thus it looks and acts horrible.
@waspennator
@waspennator 8 ай бұрын
Looks like valve is pushing hl source off to the side to fix up the og version
@tacky4237
@tacky4237 Жыл бұрын
7:40 that early 2000s pre rendered promotional screenshot sheen.
@RainingMetal
@RainingMetal Жыл бұрын
When I was a kid, we had a computer that wasn't just bad, it was uniquely bad. It could technically run Half-Life and Half-Life 2, but the former would inexplicably crash during loading sessions (except Opposing Force because that game loaded its levels differently). So I was hoping Half-Life: Source would be a technical remake of Half-Life on the Source Engine, much like what we have with Black Mesa today. When I played Half-Life: Source at a LAN Party service, I got this. I was expecting so much more (but at least you could load at the start of each chapter without using the console commands). Later I would discover that swinging the crowbar during the loading sessions would guarantee the game wouldn't crash. Later we got a computer that could actually run games and had decent specs for gaming, which negated this issue. But this was my first exposure to Half-Life: Source. I dodged a bullet by not buying it.
@portospl8781
@portospl8781 Жыл бұрын
"i dodged a bullet by not buying" what do yo mean????? Half-Life Source is the greatest gaming achievment ever. Our lord and saviour Valve created yet another masterpiece that they update liek every single fucking day. Half life source is a 10 out of 10 and you're pretending like its a broken shitty game for 9 USD no its not you dumbass. If you don't like half life source then you have atleast 17 IQ and should cry in your shame that you didn't buy half life sorse.
@mariosskl8347
@mariosskl8347 Жыл бұрын
Similar experience here but with CS instead of Half Life. Had a horrible laptop and CS: Source would actually run better than the original Counter Strike for whatever ungodly reason.
@RainingMetal
@RainingMetal Жыл бұрын
@@mariosskl8347 That is baffling. Although with our crappy computer it could only render in Software mode, so the UI models were stuck as left-handed. With CS: Source the game still ran like crap but we had access to right-handed models.
@edfreak9001
@edfreak9001 Жыл бұрын
As annoying as it surely is to have to work around such limitations part of me adores the whimsical quality of solutions like "I can continue playing the game semi normally if I just remember to swing the crowbar when walking into level transitions" like what the fuck could the game possibly by doing where that's the difference maker
@oz_jones
@oz_jones Жыл бұрын
"When in doubt, apply crowbar"
@delta9685
@delta9685 Жыл бұрын
I actually was disappointed with the fact that Blue Shift and Opposing Force didn't have their own Source versions, simply because I wanted to play them in Gmod.
@maesterdanteamadeus444
@maesterdanteamadeus444 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, this is something that also annoyed me when I got it bundled with every other Valve game.
@quantizedanson
@quantizedanson Жыл бұрын
Black Mesa is getting a Blue Shift mod, keep an eye out
@Rookie417
@Rookie417 Жыл бұрын
@@quantizedansonit came out already just not complete now only up to I think chapter 4 and of has some parts ported
@hat9527
@hat9527 Жыл бұрын
@@quantizedanson you cant play that in gmod, that was kinda their point :P
@poudink5791
@poudink5791 Жыл бұрын
@@hat9527 Really? It's still Source, so it should work in gmod.
@RadJordy
@RadJordy Жыл бұрын
I remember Ross speaking on the jankness with HLS on the second Meeting of the Minds. He discussed having to noclip in and out of the level while looking at the barnacles so their tongue wouldn't be stuck all the way up and actually show up as it was supposed to. He also made some video tests on his website where he showed how stuff like the laser on the rocket launcher doesn't appear to record at the same framerate or somesuch, and that's why it looks so goofy in the episodes where he uses the laser guided rocket launcher.
@stevensonbak
@stevensonbak Жыл бұрын
Appreciate the video, and greatly appreciate the nod to Cortex Command at 5:20 with the music choice! Talk about projects that didn't get enough love, amirite?
@GamingBlarg
@GamingBlarg Жыл бұрын
Fucking hell thank you mate, was dying trying to remember what the song was
@whoisanarnb
@whoisanarnb Жыл бұрын
The iconic floating scientist
@fartedlitterbox
@fartedlitterbox Жыл бұрын
Ah yes, he was born to fly (only on the Source Engine though)
@whoisanarnb
@whoisanarnb Жыл бұрын
@@fartedlitterbox Born to Fly, Forced to Sit
@DeepseaOddities
@DeepseaOddities Жыл бұрын
When I played HL:S the Gonarch was unkillable. Like you literally couldn't kill her and finish the game without using the level select that already had every level unlocked😂
@fartedlitterbox
@fartedlitterbox Жыл бұрын
@@whoisanarnb true
@TwoNumbahNiens
@TwoNumbahNiens Жыл бұрын
@@whoisanarnb you either a fly typah, or a shy writah.
@snapchipper
@snapchipper Жыл бұрын
I was the one who caused the HD pack. So glad to know it's my permanent legacy for the Half-Life franchise.
@Gameprojordan
@Gameprojordan Жыл бұрын
Half life: we do a little trolling it's called we go a little trolling
@Rookie417
@Rookie417 Жыл бұрын
Care to explain more?
@nickosman1556
@nickosman1556 Жыл бұрын
source or it didnt happened
@redfiretf2
@redfiretf2 Жыл бұрын
@@Rookie417 basically, chipsnapper made a post to the github issue tracker for steampipe, suggesting to add the gearbox hd models. however a gamebanana mod was linked and included retextured versions of the HD models, as well as world textures it got added to the HL:S beta branch, a week later the world textures were pulled, leaving only the HD models with fanmade textures and its still there today
@chaosquidquicklimeboi8437
@chaosquidquicklimeboi8437 Жыл бұрын
it's okay, based marathon man
@Slosten
@Slosten Жыл бұрын
I love how as soon as you mentioned Gman Squad, my mind instantly went to the scene with the trip mines, and just as I was about to write a comment about it I got to the end where you included a clip of that exact scene.
@andreworders7305
@andreworders7305 Жыл бұрын
5:30 that doesn’t look like milk. I’m confused.
@finn_in_the_bin5263
@finn_in_the_bin5263 Ай бұрын
I think what he meant was 'milky' as in opaque liquid but it definitely made for some fun roasting in the comments about his milk selection
@classicalmusic1337
@classicalmusic1337 Жыл бұрын
I never expected cancer to be a part of my story. I was a healthy, active guy in my mid-30s, working as a software engineer and enjoying all the things life had to offer. But when I started experiencing unexplained fatigue and a nagging pain in my abdomen, I knew something wasn't right. The diagnosis was a shock: stage 3 colon cancer. I couldn't believe it. How could this happen to me? I was young, fit, and had no family history of the disease. But as I sat in the oncologist's office, staring at the bleak statistics on the screen in front of me, I knew I had to fight. The next few months were a blur of chemotherapy and radiation treatments, hospital stays and endless rounds of medication. I lost my hair, my energy, and my sense of hope. The worst part was the isolation. I couldn't work, I couldn't socialize, I couldn't even go out in public without feeling self-conscious and vulnerable. One day, as I lay on my couch feeling sorry for myself, my younger brother came to visit. He had brought a gift with him: a copy of Half-Life: Source, a first-person shooter game that I had always wanted to play but never had the chance. I was skeptical at first. How was playing a video game going to help me with cancer? But as I started to immerse myself in the game, something miraculous happened. For the first time in months, I forgot about my illness. I was no longer a cancer patient, I was Gordon Freeman, a scientist fighting for survival against an alien invasion. As I explored the immersive, detailed world of Half-Life: Source, I felt a sense of purpose and accomplishment that I had been missing in my real life. I was using my mind, my reflexes, my problem-solving skills to overcome obstacles and defeat enemies. It was a welcome break from the constant worry and pain that had become my daily reality. Over time, as I played more and more of the game, I started to feel a sense of hope and determination returning to me. I began to think about the future, to set goals and make plans. I started exercising again, eating better, and taking care of myself. I even started to think about returning to work. And then, after what felt like an eternity, the day finally came when my oncologist declared me cancer-free. It was a moment of pure joy and relief, and I knew that I owed a lot of my recovery to the hours I had spent playing Half-Life: Source. Looking back, I realize that the game was more than just a distraction or a hobby for me. It was a lifeline, a way to escape the darkness of cancer and find a sense of meaning and purpose in my life. It gave me the strength and courage to keep fighting, even when the odds seemed stacked against me. And now, as I stand here, a cancer survivor, I am grateful for every moment I spent playing Half-Life: Source. It truly made a difference in my darkest hour.
@adama865
@adama865 Жыл бұрын
Someone make this a copypasta
@TheKaffeekatze
@TheKaffeekatze Жыл бұрын
This is a glimmer of hope in a big sea of negativity seen everywhere online, you deserve great things
@bluegum6438
@bluegum6438 Жыл бұрын
@@adama865 I never expected AIDS to be a part of my story. I was a healthy, active guy in my mid-30s, working as a software engineer and enjoying all the things life had to offer. But when I started experiencing unexplained fatigue and a nagging pain in my butthole, I knew something wasn't right. The diagnosis was a shock: full-blown HIV AIDS. I was riddled with it. How could this happen to me? I was young, fit, and had no family history of the disease. But as I sat in the doctor's office, staring at the bleak statistics on the screen in front of me, I knew I had to fight. The next few months were a blur of hospital stays and endless rounds of medication. I lost my hair, my pride and my dignity. The worst part was the isolation. I couldn't work, I couldn't socialize, I couldn't even go out in public without some idiot asking me if I was contagious. One day, as I lay on my couch feeling sorry for myself, my wife's boyfriend came to visit. He had brought a gift with him: a copy of Hunt Down The Freeman, a first-person shooter game that I had always wanted to play but never had the chance. I was skeptical at first. How was playing a video game going to help me with cancer? But as I started to immerse myself in the game, something miraculous happened. For the first time in months, I forgot about my illness. I was no longer an AIDS-riddled bozo, I was Sergeant Mitchell Shepard, a badass fighting for revenge against an armored mute brandishing a lever. As I explored the immersive, detailed world of Hunt Down The Freeman, I felt a sense of true existential dread and agony that even AIDS had failed to impress upon me. I was watching endless nonsensical cutscenes and stumbling through half-finished corridors. It was a perfect match for the constant worry and pain that had become my daily reality. Over time, as I played more and more of the game, I started to feel a sense of hope and determination returning to me. I began to think about the future, to set goals and make plans. I started exercising again, eating better, and taking care of myself. I even started to think about returning to work. In comparison to playing Hunt Down The Freeman, everything else seemed easy. And then, after what felt like an eternity, the day finally came when my doctor declared I had two months to live. It was a moment of pure joy and relief, and I knew that I owed a lot of my decline to the hours I had spent playing Hunt Down The Freeman. Looking back, I realize that the game was more than just a distraction or a hobby for me. It really illustrated the futility and absurdity of existence, and it comforted me to know that the works of man are all but dust in the face of an uncaring universe. And now, as I stand here, I am grateful for every moment I spent playing Hunt Down The Freeman. It truly made a difference in my darkest hour.
@ButtonMasherReal
@ButtonMasherReal Жыл бұрын
I almost thought this was going to be a copypasta about how Half-Life: Source gave you cancer. I guess this is good too, though.
@classicalmusic1337
@classicalmusic1337 Жыл бұрын
@@ButtonMasherReal I remember the day I was diagnosed with cancer like it was yesterday. It was a cold, dark winter morning and I had just gotten out of bed when my doctor called with the news. I was in shock, my heart racing as I tried to comprehend what he was telling me. The words "stage 4" and "terminal" kept ringing in my head, and I couldn't shake the feeling that my life was over. I couldn't believe it. How could this have happened to me? I had always been careful, always followed the rules. But then I remembered something - my obsession with Half-Life: Source. I had spent hours upon hours playing that game, ignoring my friends and family in favor of the virtual world it provided. And now, it seemed, that obsession had come back to haunt me. As it turned out, the game was full of bugs and glitches, and one of them had caused my cancer. The developers had known about the issue for years, but they had done nothing to fix it, and now it was too late for me. I was terrified and overwhelmed, and I didn't know how I was going to get through the next few months, let alone the rest of my life. But somehow, I found the strength to keep going. I knew I had to fight, no matter how hard it was going to be. Through the ups and downs of treatment, I tried my best to stay positive. I knew that I had brought this upon myself, and I was determined to make the most of what little time I had left. But as I lay in my hospital bed, staring at the ceiling and trying to come to terms with my fate, I couldn't help but feel angry and bitter. I was a victim of a careless, profit-driven industry that had no regard for the well-being of its players. And so, as I took my last breath, I made a promise to myself - to use my story as a cautionary tale, and to warn others about the dangers of playing games like Half-Life: Source. It was a small comfort, but it was all I had left.
@imurderragdolls
@imurderragdolls Жыл бұрын
1:31 this is why I love the Half-Life community. It always feels like we’re still in the years of 2006-2009.
@Gogglesofkrome
@Gogglesofkrome 8 ай бұрын
Half life really does put a lime light on some of the better elements of the early 15 years of this new, yet otherwise bleak century.
@jaaaaaked
@jaaaaaked Жыл бұрын
I really loved Half-Life: Source as a kid. Definitely through Gman Squad and late 00s let's play videos of it, with the weird ragdolls and HDR lighting on low-res textures. Something about it was appealing in a surreal way.
@kakokapolei123
@kakokapolei123 Жыл бұрын
My first introduction to HL:S was through Freeman’s Mind. Before that, I was playing Half-Life on the PS2. What made it really stand out to me was the ragdoll physics, and 10 year old me thought that was the coolest thing ever, and is probably what kicked off my love for good ragdoll physics. Imo, the fact that bodies could just limp over and die instead of reusing the same 3-4 death animations is worth pushing past all the bugs.
@Unethical.Dodgson
@Unethical.Dodgson Ай бұрын
I used to enjoy playing games in the PS2 era simply for the janky physics. I remember being enamored with the ragdolls of Hitman. Good times.
@ikiwyu
@ikiwyu Жыл бұрын
I actually think the 3D skyboxes they added to surface tension work really well. The maps feel tiny when you go back and play the original game, but when you load up half life source (espescially during the cliff sequence) the world feels large and expansive. I still remember the Acrophobia I got when I first traversed the cliff sequence in half life source.
@ikiwyu
@ikiwyu Жыл бұрын
Also that dig at the modding community? Cringe my dude, I think Stone and the gang did a great job at bringing the visuals more in-line with half life 2.
@when-do-we-get-a-block-button
@when-do-we-get-a-block-button Жыл бұрын
yeah, yikes, i saw the dig at the modders and just have to ask, why? what is wrong with people having fun
@uboa8012
@uboa8012 Жыл бұрын
it feels like he was looking for reasons to trash this port. To me it was always just Half Life 1 with ragdoll physics
@ikiwyu
@ikiwyu Жыл бұрын
It has a few bugs, mind you I do consider the current version of Half-life: source to be objjectively worse than the original because of all the game breaking bugs, but at launch it actually had a lot of minor improvements that were nice. Like the ability to select which chapter you want to play from the main menu.
@ImmaLittlePip
@ImmaLittlePip Жыл бұрын
Man you just took me back in time by mentioning freeman's mind and gman squad
@thealandude9146
@thealandude9146 Жыл бұрын
same
@PostIronicState
@PostIronicState Жыл бұрын
The fact that Ross is STILL making episodes of Freeman's Mind keeps my inner child alive
@vergilstatus17
@vergilstatus17 Жыл бұрын
Same dude i watched Gman squad without even knowing English way back when lmao
@pleasegoawaydude
@pleasegoawaydude Жыл бұрын
Remember to re-watch Freeman's Mind once per year, lest you mess with the Freeman.
@mathesonwarshawski380
@mathesonwarshawski380 Жыл бұрын
+ImmaLittlePip Believe it or not, Freeman's Mind is still ongoing as per Freeman's Mind 2
@primesuspect8567
@primesuspect8567 Жыл бұрын
1:13 Didnt know Kevin Spacey was in the hl2 beta
@AHurdOfBronies_
@AHurdOfBronies_ Жыл бұрын
4:59 I remember back when the cinematic mod was more recent and hearing how everyone was saying how good it apparently was. I saw this scene in a video showcasing the mod and instantly hated it because of how expressionless Alyx looked due to the face rigging being absolutely broken.
@Her_Imperious_Condescension
@Her_Imperious_Condescension Жыл бұрын
I remember buying HL:S specifically _because_ of all the goofy bugs. I don't regret it, it was a hilarious playthrough.
@ElijahBobingerDragonogh
@ElijahBobingerDragonogh Жыл бұрын
HL:Source was my intro to HL1. I don’t feel like I had any real problems with it, and I loved the physics in HL1. Granted, it was when I started with HL2, GMod, CS:Source, and Portal, but it still held up at the time
@AdrianRojasF
@AdrianRojasF Жыл бұрын
Same! I was tricked into thinking it was an upgrade to the original and I played it first. As far as I could tell it ran normally and I fell in love with the game. I guess it's good enough by itself so, for a first timer, it wouldn't make a difference. I didn't get all the hate at first but apparently I played it right before the Pipeline update that broke the game in 2013. I was lucky, I guess.
@bluegum6438
@bluegum6438 Жыл бұрын
I played in like 2008 and it was fine as far as I cared except for the atrocious ragdolls, but as covered in the video and the above comment the Steam Pipeline update completely fubar'd it and it continued to get more busted with each Source update. On the topic of HL:S Deathmatch, I also played a little bit of it around the same time and a small child who was one of the only people still playing it recruited me to "act in" a knock-off of GMan Squad he titled "The R*****ed Guys" and ordered me around for a while and sent me the KZfaq link, it was one of the most godawful nonsensical things I've ever seen, fond memory that I hadn't thought about for years.
@drawter3592
@drawter3592 Жыл бұрын
@@bluegum6438 is the video still up today?
@bluegum6438
@bluegum6438 Жыл бұрын
@@drawter3592 I have no idea, I just searched it and nothing came up if it is still up good luck finding it, sorry
@n3wbury
@n3wbury 8 ай бұрын
Well with the 25th anniversary in the rearview mirror, it makes total sense why the game was so neglected by Valve, now knowing they were gonna patch the original and delist this one entirely.
@shcdemolisher
@shcdemolisher 8 ай бұрын
Yep, I've been playing the original half life and MAN is it a blast!
@dgSolidarity
@dgSolidarity Жыл бұрын
9:47 “Hate the parent, not the child” is what I’m hearing.
@ceelt
@ceelt Жыл бұрын
I remember using half life source maps to play in vr via gmod. It’s super fun actually.
@dominicbofficial
@dominicbofficial Жыл бұрын
that's what wayneradioTV did to film the HLVRAI series!
@azzyiseternal4745
@azzyiseternal4745 Жыл бұрын
@@dominicbofficial i believe he also used the resized maps mod, since hl:s has a shitton of loading screens and level transitions, so it has like 500 maps per chapter instead of just, well, 1 map per chapter.
@Dr.F999
@Dr.F999 Жыл бұрын
Dude, when you mentioned HLVRAI, I felt good. When you mentioned Freemans Mind, I felt nostalgic. When you mentioned G-man Squad, OMG do I miss those guys.
@Zenurfiy
@Zenurfiy Жыл бұрын
Funny thing is I don't feel nostalgic about Freeman's Mind because still waiting for next episode.
@flordelizhawk358
@flordelizhawk358 5 ай бұрын
​@@ZenurfiyI am glad I am still waiting for Freeman's mind though, at least I am waiting for something instead of nothing.
@BurnVictim4029
@BurnVictim4029 Жыл бұрын
Someone else remembers the Gman Squad! I remember watching that as a kid, maybe no older than 10, and loving it.
@Echo-22-538
@Echo-22-538 Жыл бұрын
3:27 That's not Half Life 2, that's Half Life Squared.
@andresbravo2003
@andresbravo2003 Жыл бұрын
Fun Fact: It can be mounted on Jabroni Brawl EP3 to play co-op.
@gameral4235
@gameral4235 Жыл бұрын
4:35 hey you rhymed
@LordDagmord
@LordDagmord Жыл бұрын
9:05 This is a great point. Black Mesa is personally my favorite way to experience HL1 and it wouldn't even exist is HL:S wasn't such a mess.
@ZackSBruh
@ZackSBruh Жыл бұрын
After those comments like this, I like Half Life Source even more just beacause it gives the opportunity to do creative reimaginative Half Life 1, also Black Mesa is on my heart.
@magmamaster1801
@magmamaster1801 Жыл бұрын
I actually installed that HD mod for the game over a decade ago. I was really surprised when years later I booted up the game from a fresh install and discovered they had added the mod to the game itself.
@KamiJoJo
@KamiJoJo Жыл бұрын
When you start to realize that you lived long enough to remember G-Man Squad long before Freeman's Mind and AI is Self-Aware, that's my case and it feels quite nostalgic.
@pleasegoawaydude
@pleasegoawaydude Жыл бұрын
I'm just old enough to remember G-Man squad existing, but too young to have bothered watching it. I didn't really get into the internet as quickly as everybody else my age.
@Jofoyo
@Jofoyo Жыл бұрын
Gman Squad... Now that's a name I've not heard in a looong time... A long time...
@filcz1117
@filcz1117 Жыл бұрын
I started with source and im happy for it. It brought to much joy seeing different kinds of bugs and then going to half life 2 i started to miss them.
@evector1284
@evector1284 Жыл бұрын
I love games like this, whether it's this game, Sonic '06, the plethora of cheap wii games or just a game in open alpha/beta. It gives unique insight to game development when the seams are clearly visible and can teach you a little bit more about what the developers were thinking.
@havoc3-243
@havoc3-243 Жыл бұрын
Take a look at Prospekt, which held the #1 punchingbag spot alongside Half-Life: Source. But people seemingly forgot it existed when hunt down the freeman launched
@somedudethatripsplanetinha4221
@somedudethatripsplanetinha4221 Жыл бұрын
hunt down my will to live
@Andrewnuva199
@Andrewnuva199 Жыл бұрын
Prospekt was relatively inoffensive, just a HL2 level pack that talked a big game about "starring" Shepard but wasn't actually doing that much with it, but all things considered not doing that much wrong. HDTF turned any issues it had up to 11.
@Hebleh
@Hebleh Жыл бұрын
Honestly this explains why HLVR But the Ai is Self Aware had so many bugs, I had no idea it was a core problem with it by default lol At the very least those bugs made Wayneradiotv's story 10x more memorable and popular in the end so it works out
@jokerhaha9630
@jokerhaha9630 Жыл бұрын
Benry was my favorite bug. Such a silly little guy.
@nuclearcosmos23
@nuclearcosmos23 Жыл бұрын
Uh that was garrysmod my guy
@Hebleh
@Hebleh Жыл бұрын
@@nuclearcosmos23 Yeah but wasn't it a direct port to Garrysmod?
@DannyCheezits
@DannyCheezits Жыл бұрын
@@Hebleh the gmod port fucks it up even more
@bytezo7693
@bytezo7693 8 ай бұрын
when i first played half life I played source thinking it was the original, god I was dumb
@shirosaki97
@shirosaki97 7 ай бұрын
Bro you sent me back in time with that GMan Squad mention. I loved watching that shit as a kid. xD
@augmentedkazoo357
@augmentedkazoo357 Жыл бұрын
7:07 I actually love those old textures... They have an odd level of charm to 'em.
@RaphpowerSGSUModding
@RaphpowerSGSUModding Жыл бұрын
Same for models, the combination of the two with the old static lighting system gives a vibe
@Fenrize
@Fenrize Жыл бұрын
Kind of reminds me of tuna or minced meat
@Gojiro7
@Gojiro7 Жыл бұрын
what a weirdly contradictory message this video has, "People complain about this game too much, but please continue to complain about it so Valve knows it sucks"
@Vikachu64
@Vikachu64 8 ай бұрын
Half-Life: Source was actually my first time with the Half-Life series. I cherished the game but was unable to finish it cuz of a boss not spawning and soft-locking me in a pit on the alien planet. Just got the OG game for free thanks to the 25th Anniversary. Really shocking to see that there's a huge difference between the two. Still love 'em both tho
@adamkc0
@adamkc0 Жыл бұрын
What stopped me from playing hl source on my last playthrough was the fact that there's no idle NPC chatter. I'd even been planning to spawn extra npcs throughout the game like giving the gutshot guard on power up some buddies or storming the dam with a mob of guards. Having them standing there completely silent during all that would've felt pretty hollow.
@greenoftreeblackofblue6625
@greenoftreeblackofblue6625 Жыл бұрын
I remember when all half life games were free to play and I played through them this one was fun to compare.
@Viper-jr4sp
@Viper-jr4sp Жыл бұрын
As someone who played it when it when I was 5 it looked good but definitely noticed the bugs more when they updated it years later it’s still a fun game have lots of memories including watching Gman squad Freeman’s mind and other series with my older brother HL Source will still hold major value to many players no matter the bugs
@lorsmephisto5222
@lorsmephisto5222 Жыл бұрын
Gman Squad was awesome, shame they all broke up
@MirrorHall_Clay
@MirrorHall_Clay Жыл бұрын
It's not that you didn't notice them earlier, they didn't exist earlier Updates absolutely destroyed the game
@saverofthehumens
@saverofthehumens Жыл бұрын
I remember playing this all those many years ago and found it palatable because none of the updates had broken it yet. It worked just fine and if I recall the floating chair guys hadn't unlocked their latant powers yet.
@MorrisNicebrain
@MorrisNicebrain Жыл бұрын
I played it on release and loved it, was well worth it just for the source renderer and the improved physics. I don't think I remember any of the current bugs/flaws appearing until several years later.
@TheMinipasila
@TheMinipasila Жыл бұрын
half life source actually comes with the deathmatch and even if you go to the individual page for the deathmatch it still only lets you buy it with the bundle (been that way at least since 2007)
@ItzZeph
@ItzZeph Жыл бұрын
I dont know if anyone picked up on it below.. But love the Cortex Command Music you had at one point in the Video. Thanks for bringing me a sense of deep Nostalgia!
@cjslider3943
@cjslider3943 Жыл бұрын
Holy cow talking about gman squad and freemans mind brought back memories of xanatos and crackbone in all these different source mods
@sparkywilson1405
@sparkywilson1405 Жыл бұрын
What's funny is that HL Source was my introduction to the series - I hadn't played it before when I bought the Orange Box on release. I didn't have any problems with it. There was probably a lot I missed, lol.
@FossyPickles
@FossyPickles Жыл бұрын
1:21 I think we already know why *three*-wave was cancelled
@deityofsin8106
@deityofsin8106 Жыл бұрын
At 5:00 i cannot agree more. One of my friends played source and was adamant there was zero difference. I was basically begging him to play the original but he believed it was fine, missed so many cutscenes and cool features T-T
@heyitzcarlos194
@heyitzcarlos194 9 ай бұрын
8:03 those 10 dollars are both HL:S and HLD:S You can't buy them in seperate parts, if you buy half life source, it will come with deathmatch source, if you buy deathmatch source it will come with half life source, you can see the package info at the right of the buy button
@Architector_4
@Architector_4 Жыл бұрын
Is there a music list for this video? I think I've heard some Cortex Command OST, The Stanley Parable, maybe Boneworks? Obviously a bunch of HL soundtrack too...
@admclef7696
@admclef7696 Жыл бұрын
2:08 black ops backflip gone wrong
@jsXanatos
@jsXanatos Жыл бұрын
Half life deathmatch source, never heard of it
@newfleshrecords
@newfleshrecords Жыл бұрын
@5:30 I am very confused as to how a reservoir filled with opaque, dark green slime is deemed "milk-like".
@Nate_the_Nobody
@Nate_the_Nobody Жыл бұрын
I loved my time playing through it, I haven't played it since the original release though, it was interesting going through seeing what physics could add.
@Omeg1
@Omeg1 Жыл бұрын
This game is definitely a "your honor it was funny" moment
@aidanwhitney5368
@aidanwhitney5368 Жыл бұрын
The game also seems significantly more difficult than its GoldSrc counterpart. HECU Marines are more aggressive. MP5 does more damage and has better accuracy in both the hands of the player and the enemies, but it also has an honestly bizarre recoil pattern that is difficult to learn and the marines don't have to worry about, so SMG marines are far deadlier than in GoldSrc. The bugginess of the game overall makes it really unpredictable. You can run faster and jump higher, so there are a lot of skips that aren't possible in GoldSrc. You can actually jump high enough to stand on a marine's head, at which point all of the other marines in the level will surround the marine you are standing on and start kicking him until he dies.
@arbiter8246
@arbiter8246 Жыл бұрын
9:10 Just like if Star Wars didn't suck we wouldn't have Mr.Plinkett
@chacebradley3817
@chacebradley3817 Жыл бұрын
I got the orange box thing on steam and decided to start playing the half life games. I’m playing half life source and just finished “We’ve got hostiles.” Is it worth it to switch from half life source to half life or should I just finish the game and come back to og half life much later down the line?
@skaynne54
@skaynne54 Жыл бұрын
I really love the part, where you mention the good things HL:S did, which is, creating old and not so old series. It reminds me of the whole thing with Black Ops: Cold War. A lot of people hated for justified and not so justified reasons. But I'm mostly referring to Zombie mode there. A lot of people hate it for some obvious reasons. But even then, it inspired a lot of good maps on Black Ops 3 zombies, bringing some fresh new maps and other stuff. That thing people hated added new interesting things to Black Ops 3 Zombies, which probably said things would've never happened if it wasn't for Cold War.
@moonlightact1792
@moonlightact1792 Жыл бұрын
if it wasnt for it, we wouldnt have gotten der bunker
@busterbackster1
@busterbackster1 Жыл бұрын
Do you have cold war and 3 swapped? One came way after the other
@skaynne54
@skaynne54 Жыл бұрын
@@busterbackster1 Okay, maybe I didn't explained well ? I know that BO3 came first. But what I'm saying is that even though Cold War is hated, a lot of people who made BO3 zombies maps took inspiration from mechanics and other things from CW Zombies. And some of the people who hated on CW Zombies probably also played some of the BO3 Zombies maps who are based on CW Zombies' mechanics. That, or, they are shitting on these maps, just because they uses CW Zombies mechanics, even though, said maps are popular and good. While i do have problems with Cold War as a whole and a lot of other things about it, I would be really fuckin dumb if I decide to deny anything that Cold War allowed some new good maps to be created. (Don't pay attention to any uppercase "i". My auto translate on mobile causes this, and I stopped bothering to fix this shit)
@planetmaker3472
@planetmaker3472 Жыл бұрын
​@@skaynne54oh, youre talking about custom zombies!
@CrimeFighterFrog
@CrimeFighterFrog Жыл бұрын
The way you described the skybox in surface tension was so funny, I had to pause because I was dying laughing
@wandtpag
@wandtpag Жыл бұрын
6:34 beloved my ass, I hated that segment, falling off the cliffs, ladders in the original HL not working properly... also the old textures gave me eye irritation and nausea... I hope you meant that segment sarcastically
@ZackSBruh
@ZackSBruh Жыл бұрын
Ladders are just a wall that you can go to the sky.
@guyginzburg1117
@guyginzburg1117 8 ай бұрын
anyone knows how the song in 9:03 is called? ive been looking for it a while by now
@sgas
@sgas Жыл бұрын
7:25 It really doesnt look that bad
@S3th__
@S3th__ Жыл бұрын
i watched this video until around the 8:00 min mark, at that point i paused and decided to refund the game as i had recently bought it, then as soon at i unpaused all i saw was how great it was.
@Pyrazahn
@Pyrazahn Жыл бұрын
My introduction to Valve games was the "holiday 2006" bundle which included HL:S + HL2 + EP1. But HL:S just kept crashing and eventually refused to start at all. So I ended up buying "Half Life Anthology", a bundle of the original HL1 and both addons, which then worked without problems.
@letthebasscannon223
@letthebasscannon223 Жыл бұрын
1:48 the virgin HL2 beta community vs the chad STALKER build community
@gamesux420
@gamesux420 Жыл бұрын
Maybe im just stupid but i dont think that 3D skybox for the cliffside segment looks *THAT* bad. Honestly just looks in par with the rest of hl1
@hazzmati
@hazzmati Жыл бұрын
Yeah dude got way too worked up over a 3d skybox haha
@Saihalji
@Saihalji Жыл бұрын
it's competing against an ugly low-resolution flat skybox taking up half the screen, too
@SanyID
@SanyID Жыл бұрын
6:23 The NPCs tend to miss behave 💀 😭
@ByMarco25
@ByMarco25 Жыл бұрын
HL: source was my introduction to HL, I played it just a few days a go, and honestly had an amazing time, only bug i experienced was one professor sitting inside his chair and a guard not opening a door, both in the beginning, and after that it was smooth sailing, but everyone's experience is going to be different, especially since I've only played the HL: source and HL2
@CatsT.M
@CatsT.M Жыл бұрын
Also, I was playing the Half-Life: Source training thingy* and noticed that you can not kill the turrets at the end...I tested it by throwing literally everything in one "impulse 101" at it and it did not die. And, the Magnum is weird when you shoot it facing upwards. *It is from Half-Life but I forgot what it is called
@irisgaming2011
@irisgaming2011 11 ай бұрын
Wait, wasn't 3:05 chapter system used for HL2?
@Jp-rr5xj
@Jp-rr5xj Жыл бұрын
the guys who did black mesa did such a good job i loved it felt like i was 13 again
@IamNuts114
@IamNuts114 Жыл бұрын
You got something funky going on with your mic setup or editing - the right channel is outputting more volume.
@RedTV2
@RedTV2 8 ай бұрын
8:40 exactly, thats the only reason i want hl source. cuz due to the anniversary thing, i got og hl1 for free
@nakfoor1846
@nakfoor1846 Жыл бұрын
Very good overview. A lot of people just crap on it without telling the entire story about how it was originally offered.
@DeepseaOddities
@DeepseaOddities Жыл бұрын
Great video, Richter! HL:S has the console codes going for it at least, being able to spawn any NPC in any map is loads of fun. I have much to say about this, but I actually _love_ Deathmatch Source and think it's leagues better than HL:S is. DMS is extremely janky but, vitally, its many community maps combine ported HL1 and HL2 assets, which I'm a big fan of...point being it feels like it has more of a reason to exist and be played bc it's fundamentally different than regular HL1 DM. For any DMS fans that might be here, they've surely played on the best server in the whole game, Motorcity Madhouse, run by the idle Gman himself, Spooky Action At A Distance🤓
@MCmikelmax
@MCmikelmax Жыл бұрын
lmao makes sense you'd be a half life fan. very nice
@ThatUnknownDude_
@ThatUnknownDude_ Жыл бұрын
8:45 Nah I envisoned the Crowbar hitting sound, a sound that lives rent free in my brain
@GeneralFlanders
@GeneralFlanders Ай бұрын
That scene with the spiky tentacles in a hole, the cutscene was supposed to show it break the window amd stab the scientist, for me the tentacles noclipped trough the scientist and started slapping the back wall while scientist was walking in place, also for some reason the alien blood was blue
@zbroxham9740
@zbroxham9740 Жыл бұрын
I only got HL source as a young teenager so I could listen to freeman’s mind in real time… episode by episode in game. Worth it to me ❤
@DaUrinalShidda
@DaUrinalShidda Жыл бұрын
I liked some of the things the Source engine did to the models like the zombies looked pretty nice
@dingdongbells3314
@dingdongbells3314 Жыл бұрын
I think the real charm of Half-Life source dawned on me when I was able to spam impulse 203 multiple times, with NPCs being stuck in the walls left and right, and the game NOT crashing immediately. For those of you too young to remember the days before Garry's Mod, the only way to spam npcs to mess around with in Gold SRC was through console commands, and even then, it was very unstable and prone to crashing when you spawn grunts into objects or if the entity you were trying to spawn didn't already exist on the map somewhere. But in HL Source it just, works. So well that you could make C1a0 into a slaughtering field of zombies, human grunts, barnies, snd all manner of everything else.
@Senor_Penor
@Senor_Penor Жыл бұрын
G-MAN SQUAD HOLY SHIT! Dude I have been looking for those guys forever, i watched Janus Syndicate so much back in the day and i forgot what it was called. Their Goldeneye: Source stuff was the funniest thing back in the day.
@Defenestrum
@Defenestrum Жыл бұрын
You're pretty spot on with a lot of what you discussed. Half-Life: Source has become a meme in the community because it's one of those things that people "love to hate" despite most likely not having played it themselves. However, it feels to me like most of its meme status has been built up within the last few years. The main reason why I made that video compiling all the bugs I could find is because no one on the internet was discussing this game 5 to 6 years ago and how broken it was getting because of the engine updates. I remember sitting there and having the We've Got Hostiles marine glitch out and attack me before the scientist, and my first reaction was to question my own sanity and if I was mis-remembering how the sequence went. I'm glad that at least these days most people know to stay away from it, and any newcomer to the franchise will probably be put off after 2 seconds of googling. I do agree with your take that HLS is "over-hated" though. It's merely just...mediocre. You can play it from start to finish with not a lot of game-breaking issues, just annoyances. I genuinely avoid thinking about this game and how it caused my younger self to gaslight himself into thinking "uh....I think that was like this all long...maybe?". It makes me sad that an official Half-Life game from Valve has gotten so little care over time.
@diogenezis
@diogenezis Жыл бұрын
5:51 though it's true, I think sax offender is a better option for the character than a mannequin :troll:
@ertyking23
@ertyking23 Жыл бұрын
No it's a mannequin :trollwithhdtexture:
@ilusions4
@ilusions4 Жыл бұрын
4:51 but that was also the case with portal rtx
@yesaterisk5641
@yesaterisk5641 Жыл бұрын
Nice use of the cortex command soundtrack. Always glad to hear it.
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