Butch Vig: From Smashing Pumpkins to Nirvana - Alternative Rock’s OG

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Rick Beato

Rick Beato

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Butch Vig is a highly respected musician, producer, and engineer, known for his innovative work in the alternative rock genre. He is perhaps best known for his work as the producer of Nirvana's breakthrough album, "Nevermind," which is widely considered one of the most influential albums of the 1990s. In addition to his work with Nirvana, Vig has also produced albums for a diverse range of artists, including Smashing Pumpkins, Garbage, and Foo Fighters. With a career spanning several decades, Vig has established himself as one of the most talented and versatile producers in the industry, renowned for his ability to capture the raw energy and emotion of a recording while also pushing the boundaries of what is possible in the studio.
Video Time Stamps:
0:00 The first recording Butch ever did
6:58 First years in the recording studio
14:55 Smashing Pumpkins I
23:05 Drum talk
26:09 Smashing Pumpkins II
28:19 Smashing Pumpkins - I Am One
38:13 Smashing Pumpkins - Daydream
41:44 Kurt Cobain bootlegs himself
45:15 Starting on Nevermind
50:22 Recording Nevermind
56:50 Nirvana - Lithium
1:00:19 Nirvana - In Bloom
1:06:10 Kurt Cobain and The Beatles
1:11:06 Nirvana - Smells Like Teen Spirit I
1:16:49 Nirvana - On A Plain
1:20:27 Nirvana - Smells Like Teen Spirit II
1:24:39 Siamese Dream
1:27:53 Smashing Pumpkins - Cherub Rock
1:32:38 Garbage
1:42:57 Rock will come back to the forefront
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@RickBeato
@RickBeato Жыл бұрын
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@themushtube42
@themushtube42 Жыл бұрын
Need a part 2! I want to hear him talk more about the discography of Garbage! Great interview Rick🙏
@ciAMkia
@ciAMkia Жыл бұрын
​@TheMushTube Oh yeah! What great idea! Who doesn't love Garbage! They're a super band! You are inspired MushTube!
@andreaslandgren1681
@andreaslandgren1681 Жыл бұрын
This was so great. First garbage record and 2.0 finishing it of was fun. Thank you!
@neilmurphy7594
@neilmurphy7594 Жыл бұрын
The interviews you're cranking out lately are freaking awesome.
@tommygoniu
@tommygoniu Жыл бұрын
Mutt Lange interview would be very interesting. Think of all the acts he's produced.
@AaronCouron
@AaronCouron Жыл бұрын
I feel like Rick has really tapped into something with these long form interviews. Where else can you hear directly from LEGENDS like Butch Vig or Billy Corgan or Sting or Maynard James Keenan or Derek Trucks and hear their stories. Rick asks the questions we would ask and has a comfortable nature that seems to bring out the best stories. I have always enjoyed the Rick Beato content, but these interviews are special. Extremely unique and fascinating content that you cannot get anywhere else. Keep it up Rick!
@Ericstrains
@Ericstrains Жыл бұрын
Agreed. I also love how these interviews aren't dumbed down for general audiences. It's like two musicians talking shop together…which of course it is.
@DesignRhythm
@DesignRhythm Жыл бұрын
He's definitely one of the very best around; never gets in the way and asks just the right amount of questions.
@hegemonycricket2182
@hegemonycricket2182 Жыл бұрын
Rick Rubin's podcast is pretty great too. Beato is def my favorite though.
@googpix540
@googpix540 Жыл бұрын
Now we need political long firm interviews.
@hegemonycricket2182
@hegemonycricket2182 Жыл бұрын
@@googpix540 There are some channels out there for that. I agree we need more of it, because you can't hide for 3 hours. Long form is very revealing, and it allows plenty of time to unpack ideas.
@jessestumpf190
@jessestumpf190 Жыл бұрын
I love how Butch still talks about the Nirvana guys like they’re still kids just making good music, not as this band that’s gonna live forever. He has a real love for them
@phillymopwater
@phillymopwater 9 ай бұрын
they are just people. Idol worship is shallow.
@whatabouttheearth
@whatabouttheearth 7 ай бұрын
​@@phillymopwater But they'll forever have legend status now since Kurt fell into the black river like Layne.
@PhantomFilmAustralia
@PhantomFilmAustralia 5 ай бұрын
When you've known them before they were rock gods, you know them as just Billy and Kurt. You know who they are before they became what they are.
@DS-nw4eq
@DS-nw4eq 2 ай бұрын
Because they were just kids… and they were just people. Kurt was 24ish at the time, highly opinionated and kind of difficult. Add in drug addiction affecting his attitude and it’s a cross between producing and babysitting.
@chris.fitzgerald
@chris.fitzgerald Жыл бұрын
I love hearing Butch in interviews, this by far was one of his best sit downs, great job Rick. Butch belongs in the Rock Hall of Fame.
@HeavyMetalOne64
@HeavyMetalOne64 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely he does.....probably more than once....I think the argument could be made for his band to be inducted
@ontherunjg
@ontherunjg 9 ай бұрын
Butch is amazing and fun to listen to but Rick knows the amount of questions to ask.
@cultserpent4501
@cultserpent4501 Жыл бұрын
Rick you are literally creating history with your channel. In an era where music is made into cheap fast junk food content and noone cares about the magic of it, you interview legends and create HOPE and INSPIRATION. Thank you! Dont give in to robots and the industry people!
@imovertheocean
@imovertheocean Жыл бұрын
so true brother
@valuedhumanoid6574
@valuedhumanoid6574 Жыл бұрын
Would entirely agree with you, however, I have been looking into some of these AI music creation apps and I got to tell you, it's actually pretty damn good. Now, I don't think it's at the level that we're talking here, you cannot artificially make songs like the one's from Nirvana or the Pumpkins. But we're also just scratching the surface of AI created music. In 5 years, who knows if you could tell the difference between a song made by a human, or an app.
@sharpvidtube
@sharpvidtube Жыл бұрын
@@valuedhumanoid6574 Musicians will use AI as part of the creative process. Can guarantee if the Beatles were starting out now, they would find a way to use it. They loved all the latest technology. Just hope Paul and Ringo don't use AI John and George now, that would sound horrible😂
@valuedhumanoid6574
@valuedhumanoid6574 Жыл бұрын
@@billa7606 No one has accused him of asking stupid questions. Why would you state something so obvious just out of the blue? Makes no sense.
@andreabruciati275
@andreabruciati275 Жыл бұрын
Amen
@nomadicnotestv
@nomadicnotestv Жыл бұрын
You know the interview went well and there is such great rapport between the two when Butch says "let's do this again". Yes, please!
@JimRivers1179
@JimRivers1179 Жыл бұрын
There’s many Rick interviews begging that part 2
@davidcroft3346
@davidcroft3346 Жыл бұрын
Butch said something like "we barely scratched the surface on some of this" and I was thinking, yeah you just got started on Siamese Dream before skipping off to talk about Garbage
@Joesfosterdogs
@Joesfosterdogs Жыл бұрын
Gadd said the same...and rarely says that
@lukephillips1521
@lukephillips1521 Жыл бұрын
After nearly 2 hours! These producers must get used to long periods doing the same thing..😂
@christophcarle
@christophcarle Жыл бұрын
I love it that Butch is always able to name song titles, lyrics and fine details like take numbers. Absolutly great guy!
@zinniebee
@zinniebee Жыл бұрын
That and his memory for the equipment specifics is astounding.
@Adefesio94
@Adefesio94 Жыл бұрын
Song recorders are nerds! they remember!
@bradleylovej
@bradleylovej 9 ай бұрын
@@Adefesio94 I'm a nerd but I don't remember things very well, haha. Too much acid in the aughts!
@VetBodGaming
@VetBodGaming Жыл бұрын
Please, please, please give us a second interview. Butch is an absolute legend and a hero to a lot of us in WI in the 90s.
@samanthastudios618
@samanthastudios618 10 ай бұрын
This!
@Kris_jellybeard
@Kris_jellybeard Жыл бұрын
One of the producers that actually made a difference in music history.
@kristopherguilbault5428
@kristopherguilbault5428 Жыл бұрын
Hey... I'm the other one... ;)
@sirfizz6518
@sirfizz6518 Жыл бұрын
Honestly quite a few have done so.
@caprise-music6722
@caprise-music6722 Жыл бұрын
It’s a longshot, but my dream is that he interviews Steve Albini
@Kris_jellybeard
@Kris_jellybeard Жыл бұрын
@@caprise-music6722 Or Steve Lilywhite or Brian Eno...
@matthiasfeit8739
@matthiasfeit8739 Жыл бұрын
​@@caprise-music6722 that could be interesting. Given Steve's hands off approach it could also mean that Rick and Albini would not really connect.
@omartechnologies
@omartechnologies Жыл бұрын
Everyone has already said it, but I gotta double down. Rick, you are going to go down in history as one of the most important historians of rock music. These interviews are priceless. The questions you ask are so precise and beautiful and brings out so many amazing stories and detail. And of course who better than someone who understands and knows the legacy of all these brilliant instruments, tech, and musicology can be the one to make this happen. Thank you for being awesome and producing this amazing content. And Butch was fascinating to listen to.
@canadude6401
@canadude6401 9 ай бұрын
His interviews are really good....I especially like how he doesn't waste anytime with stupid typical drama questions. I know very little about music production, but I can really appreciate the process and it's so nice to hear all the details.
@HOCKEYTOG
@HOCKEYTOG Ай бұрын
Listening and then asking intelligent and thoughtful questions is difficult - there are many journalists who completely fail at this, Rick gives us a masterclass with Butch.
@clinteastwood3156
@clinteastwood3156 Жыл бұрын
Huge respect for this guy, Butch created 90s rock sound with Gish and later Siamese Dream and Nevermind
@sirfizz6518
@sirfizz6518 Жыл бұрын
The musicians were at least as responsible for that if not moreso. What's clear is that he was the right guy to make it translate and click
@robphegan90
@robphegan90 Жыл бұрын
Don’t tell Billy Corgan this. 😅
@joelab9222
@joelab9222 Жыл бұрын
Sonic Youth - Dirty, too.
@TheMattmatic
@TheMattmatic Жыл бұрын
@@robphegan90 "You stole my guitar sound, motherfucker!" ;)
@OGGOAT23
@OGGOAT23 Жыл бұрын
Killdozer Laughing Hyenas
@inkyGhosty
@inkyGhosty 9 ай бұрын
This isn't really an interview, this is a masterclass for any aspiring young people wanting to get into the producing side of the industry and probably just as much as a goldmine for already experienced techs, engineers and producers. Incredible content.
@robbygordon643
@robbygordon643 Жыл бұрын
I always enjoyed Inside the Actors Studio but bummed that there was never anything like it for music. Rick - you’re quickly becoming that guy. Someone who can intelligently talk to an artist about things related to the craft is rare. Glad you are doing these interviews!
@colinwallace5286
@colinwallace5286 11 ай бұрын
I love how the early interviews had the guests gradually getting comfortable and candid, and “engaged”, as they realized that Rick was asking great questions, not looking for the usual “gotcha” garbage. Now we see that your guests are looking forward to getting their own great interview, and it’s really entertaining and informative for all of us.
@matthewbuttner7960
@matthewbuttner7960 Жыл бұрын
Butch said, “Let’s do this again.” Um, yes please. This was so good. Thank you, Rick. No one is doing interviews like this. I don’t play an instrument, let alone record music, but I loved listening to you two talk about recording equipment and instruments. This and the Billy Corgan interview are my favorites from this channel.
@TheDamageinc81
@TheDamageinc81 Жыл бұрын
It's amazing what all goes on behind the scenes. Most people wouldn't have a clue about what it takes to make a recording. Of course the digital age has made things easier but the analog days of cut and splicing with tape is a whole different ball game. Personally, the analog tape production like the needle piercing the vinyl sounds more organic and that extra work seems to pay off.
@Pauldjreadman
@Pauldjreadman Жыл бұрын
We definitely need a “ Part 2”
@patrick3926
@patrick3926 Жыл бұрын
Loved every second. Butch is such a great interview, patient and loves geeking out
@JoeSim8s
@JoeSim8s Жыл бұрын
+1 for the "Let's do this again". Rick's interviews are unique.
@alexandercardoso8216
@alexandercardoso8216 Жыл бұрын
Butch Vig is pure gold
@jimmienahas4156
@jimmienahas4156 Жыл бұрын
Butch is a humble dude and every year (except Covid year) comes back to Madison and does a benefit with local and international musicians for a benefit called Joey's Song. Dude gives back to the community that continues to RESPECT what this man does with music. 23:17 Miking drums. Rock on Butch Vig.
@seltonk5136
@seltonk5136 Жыл бұрын
Apparently the other day one of those things that you can get on the couch with your family and friends
@davebaka2595
@davebaka2595 Жыл бұрын
Interesting to think that maybe I may have passed by Butch when I was student there. I went through the humanities building just about every day. I also had a few philosophy classes there. It’s an unusual building. The top floors are suspended high above on big pillars.
@davebaka2595
@davebaka2595 Жыл бұрын
Look at the bike to get some perspective of the size
@randygomez9595
@randygomez9595 Жыл бұрын
"You can't record the same guitar multiple times with the same tones." Man, that is some of the best recording advice for working musicians I've ever heard.
@PoboyMusic
@PoboyMusic 11 ай бұрын
Lots of good knowledge here for home recording guys
@Rand_al_Thor372
@Rand_al_Thor372 11 ай бұрын
Randy Rhoads would say otherwise.
@randygomez9595
@randygomez9595 11 ай бұрын
@@Rand_al_Thor372 you sure about that?
@Rand_al_Thor372
@Rand_al_Thor372 11 ай бұрын
@@randygomez9595 positive. He triple tracked all the solos: left, right and center.
@randygomez9595
@randygomez9595 11 ай бұрын
@@Rand_al_Thor372 well, recording the same guitar part multiple times with the same tone to make that one part sound bigger and fuller is one thing. I think what Butch Vig is referring to here is recording different guitar parts with the same tone.
@digitaldosage1979
@digitaldosage1979 9 ай бұрын
I have been a formally trained sound engineer for over 22 years, and I have never gleaned so much from an interview as I have with this one. THANK YOU! Vig is my HERO!🙏
@kcdw0012
@kcdw0012 5 ай бұрын
this is definitely a longshot but i am 16 and want to be a music producer or sound engineer. i can play guitar and use DAW, what steps should i start taking to become a producer (schooling, knowledge, tips, etc.)
@digitaldosage1979
@digitaldosage1979 5 ай бұрын
@@kcdw0012 I went to school for sound engineering, but what you need to do more than anything is just start getting your hands dirty. Do KZfaq videos, volunteer at churches to run their sound (most provide free training), if there are recording studios around you, become an intern and work for free and get really good/quality training, start recording and mixing friends for free on your DAW, but most importantly... It's about who you know. 110%! You have to get involved in the business on a personal level, even if you were the best producer in the world, nobody's going to know it if you don't have people sending clients to you. It's about making friends and building your chops at the same time. Be easy to work with and don't have an attitude, even when circumstances might dictate otherwise. When it boils down to it, people want to work with cool people.😎 Lastly, be willing to do whatever it takes to get the job done, even if you don't know how to do something, learn it while in-process, but in order to be a producer, you need to learn all aspects of recording/mixing... At least in my opinion. With that said, there's been a bit of a mix-up in the language that we use nowadays for "producers". Producers used to be people that could get an album put together from start to finish, and are able to provide good creative input in order to make the best recording possible, while dealing the artists on a personal level. Nowadays, the term producer has been diminished to someone that just sits around making beats and providing artists with material that they can record to. Regardless of how you're using the word, you'll need to figure out what specifically you need to learn in order to accomplish your goal. Butch vig, as seen in this interview, is a tracking and mixing engineer first.... The producer stuff came later. He earned every bit of his success.
@jwhite1016aol
@jwhite1016aol Жыл бұрын
This was stellar. Butch is a national treasure.
@davemarriott9332
@davemarriott9332 Жыл бұрын
And the best part is his humility....He doesn't even know he's a national treasure...Well put
@jorgealbertovalladares578
@jorgealbertovalladares578 Жыл бұрын
@@davemarriott9332 It also didn't seem like Rick noticed Butch complementing Rick's work saying, "I am a fan..."
@goodpainlive1
@goodpainlive1 Жыл бұрын
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@sasanbehnood-hr7hx
@sasanbehnood-hr7hx Жыл бұрын
Rick - this is the most comprehensive (and personal) interview I’ve ever seen with Butch. For all of us lovers of 90s rock, we’ve pieced together little snippets of his interviews here and there, but your interview beautifully fills in the background color and detail - in a way we’ve always hoped to know and see. Masterful interview, and Butch clearly connected with you. Thank you so much for this. Waiting for part 2 someday….
@dago_enfuego4120
@dago_enfuego4120 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, you nailed it. ✌
@JimLovesGolf
@JimLovesGolf 5 ай бұрын
One of the wonderful things about Rick as an interviewer is how he injects his knowledge of the topic in his questions to spur very interesting and expansive responses without resorting to talking about his own substantial experience in the subject.
@edmunddonnelly3881
@edmunddonnelly3881 Жыл бұрын
Rick has, without a doubt, the most essential channel on KZfaq for music fans. Such a treasure trove of interesting stuff.
@devinsinderwitcz9134
@devinsinderwitcz9134 Жыл бұрын
Butch Vig is a genuine genius! His work in Garbage is truly EPIC!
@TRON0314
@TRON0314 Жыл бұрын
Garbage 2.0 is a top 10 album for me.
@austinhunt4260
@austinhunt4260 Жыл бұрын
Garbage 1.0 is a top 10 for me. 2.0 is a top 100.
@codyharris1211
@codyharris1211 Жыл бұрын
I saw them on that tour and that show is one my top favorites and Garbage is my all time favorite band. A perfect example of everything working together as it should. Not a day goes by that I don’t listen to them.
@blakemaxfield4267
@blakemaxfield4267 Жыл бұрын
​@@austinhunt4260 I loved that first album from Garbage. When I first heard Vow on 120 minutes I was like who the hell is this? There's nothing like hearing and discovering a new band for the first time.
@TheMerlynPost
@TheMerlynPost Жыл бұрын
0:00 The first recording Butch ever did 6:58 First years in the recording studio 14:55 Smashing Pumpkins I 23:05 Drum talk 26:09 Smashing Pumpkins II 28:19 Smashing Pumpkins - I Am One 38:13 Smashing Pumpkins - Daydream 41:44 Kurt Cobain bootlegs himself 45:15 Starting on Nevermind 50:22 Recording Nevermind 56:50 Nirvana - Lithium 1:00:19 Nirvana - In Bloom 1:06:10 Kurt Cobain and The Beatles 1:11:06 Nirvana - Smells Like Teen Spirit I 1:16:49 Nirvana - On A Plain 1:20:27 Nirvana - Smells Like Teen Spirit II 1:24:39 Siamese Dream 1:27:53 Smashing Pumpkins - Cherub Rock 1:32:38 Garbage 1:42:57 Rock will come back to the forefront
@ljdobles8104
@ljdobles8104 Жыл бұрын
👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
@dynamicphotography_
@dynamicphotography_ Жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@enterscanman
@enterscanman Жыл бұрын
King 👑
@michaeldalton8374
@michaeldalton8374 Жыл бұрын
I liked seeing this. Then I tried to decide where I wanted to go. Then I just decided to listen to it all. 😆👍
@franciscorevuelta491
@franciscorevuelta491 Жыл бұрын
​@@michaeldalton8374haha exactly
@loganm15
@loganm15 Жыл бұрын
Dang nothing has ever opened my eyes more to show the amount of work producers put into albums hats off to Butch for producing one of the greatest albums of all time
@fenrisbutcher7343
@fenrisbutcher7343 2 ай бұрын
if u listen to early smells like teen spirit demo u will see the real impact Butch had on whole nevermind. ppl always say how navermind changed the music history, and Butch is the unspoken hero o that story
@FallenStarFeatures
@FallenStarFeatures 10 ай бұрын
Butch is not only a legendary producer and musician. His phenomenally detailed memory of recording and engineering tales from sessions held over two decades ago is endlessly mesmerizing. Not to mention, Rick's questions and commentary are so pertectly on point, I could listen to many more hours of just the two of them talking.
@milesdowsett3532
@milesdowsett3532 Жыл бұрын
The impact of Butch's influence in the whole of music in the 90s cannot be overstated.
@SebastianPerezG
@SebastianPerezG Жыл бұрын
More Butch and less Trap music please !!!! less Bad Bunny and all that crap for god sake ..
@nickkleiber8636
@nickkleiber8636 9 ай бұрын
Don’t discount Jack Endino tho, he had prolly a bigger influence
@EZLN
@EZLN 7 ай бұрын
@@SebastianPerezG i’m sure you’ll find it, why put down what others like?
@mayorofthenonsense
@mayorofthenonsense Жыл бұрын
One of the coolest things in this interview is where they talk about lining up the next Pumpkins record in the wake of the world changing Nevermind, and how much pressure Butch was under to deliver something equally successful. Normally, there would have been a lot of doubt about anyone being able to pull the same trick again, but in this case the result was an album that was as big, powerful, and successful as it was unique and defining in its own right. Siamese Dream might not have represented the same musical revolution that Nevermind did, but it came as close as anything ever could and was without a doubt one of the most iconic albums of the 90’s.
@AndrewGorny
@AndrewGorny 29 күн бұрын
I think Siamese Dream has yet to get its big moment to shine, and I remember how big it was when it came out. Some kid will discover it in a few years and it'll change the world again
@Pigsandpies1984
@Pigsandpies1984 Жыл бұрын
I love that Butch can’t help but air drum through some of those amazing songs. What a body of work. And he remembers so many details. Amazing.
@josephwiacek8123
@josephwiacek8123 Жыл бұрын
This is like the Behind The Music to Behind the music. Mid-Forties now and these are all the bands that shaped my teenage years and experiences. Very nostalgic-Great job.
@capoman1
@capoman1 2 ай бұрын
Concur. Same age. This may be better than a Nirvana interview cause Bruce isn't internal to the songs, he's recording them for release. He really explains well all the thoughts behind the sounds and choices.
@TheNadaladaDOTnet
@TheNadaladaDOTnet Жыл бұрын
Aside from the fact that Butch’s resume and contribution to music is undeniable….his energy, vibe and passion for the music he has been associated with is just so infectious. You can tell how much admiration he has for the artists.
@taxationistheft2.0
@taxationistheft2.0 Жыл бұрын
imagine doing siamese dream and nevermind. dude thats like winning the superbowl twice
@TheNadaladaDOTnet
@TheNadaladaDOTnet Жыл бұрын
@@taxationistheft2.0 100% true. Gish as well.
@taxationistheft2.0
@taxationistheft2.0 Жыл бұрын
@@TheNadaladaDOTnet facts
@marceror
@marceror Жыл бұрын
Rick is officially the go to contact if an artist wants to go deep on an interview. This was a great listen, and I am absolutely amazed at Butch's near perfect memory of these sessions.
@Omertahun
@Omertahun Жыл бұрын
Honestly, the last time they did that deep dive QA was in the 70s
@geoffmerrill164
@geoffmerrill164 Жыл бұрын
Your memory reference reminds me of listening to athletes who can, years later, describe in great detail the intricacies of a play or a game. A well-tuned mind can operate way beyond our conscious appreciation of it's capabilities.
@popkorn256
@popkorn256 Жыл бұрын
To be fair, in the last 30 years, people have probably been asking him every day about the Nevermind recording :)
@marceror
@marceror Жыл бұрын
@@popkorn256 Probably true, but I don't think that explains why he seems to remember every piece of equipment he has owned or used since his very first recording session! :)
@robertmuckle2985
@robertmuckle2985 Жыл бұрын
@@marceror As a 67 year old recording engineer, I too remember most every piece of gear I've used on most everything! If I can make a suitable comparison...for most 'guys', consider how much you remember about each and every car you've owned, and what you did in said cars! It comes down to the LOVE you have, and hence those memories will stay with you forever!
@michtarragon4665
@michtarragon4665 Жыл бұрын
I've loved everything Butch has done over the years. Gish and Siamese Dream are amazing records, as is Nevermind. I'm a huge Garbage fan as well. Thank you Butch!
@bradleylovej
@bradleylovej 9 ай бұрын
I remember playing Gran Tourismo 2 and hearing that Garbage track over and over again. I liked it, so I dug a little and was shocked that one of the band members had produced Nevermind!
@thewalrus5878
@thewalrus5878 Жыл бұрын
At times I literally got goosebumps of excitement with Rick’s technical knowledge AND how sincerely interested he is in Butch’s answers. Actually, I love how in every interview Rick is intensely focused and interested in his guest’s answers and story. Great questions. You can’t find these levels of interviews with such important figures anywhere else. Excellent job, Rick. Please keep it up!
@thecthonian4976
@thecthonian4976 Жыл бұрын
Of all the interviews this one is a fast favorite. Butch is great, and such an amicable guy. I loved how they both air drum/ guitar with the songs Rick played. What a unique opportunity to talk to one of the best producers of alternative rock ever. Rick let him talk and Butch stayed on point. Very well done Rick! Love this one!
@geoffmerrill164
@geoffmerrill164 Жыл бұрын
At 28:whatever, when Rick cues up I Am One, to see Butch instantaneously fall into the groove is so cool. Rick's there as well, as are I imagine thousands of us who watched this and found ourselves back at the first listening, and to some extent every listening since then. Music is magic.
@Robx-gx8zy
@Robx-gx8zy Жыл бұрын
My favorite part of this interview is leading into the chorus of “On A Plain” Butch plays the air drum fill and Rick plays air bass. Love to see two legends acting like 14 year olds!!
@thehunterofodes
@thehunterofodes 2 ай бұрын
The common theme is these guys are mainly self taught. There’s no classes that will replace tenacity & overcoming challenges on your own. What you learn from those challenges is priceless & can’t be planned.
@gabedirmeyer692
@gabedirmeyer692 Жыл бұрын
Watching this interview spoke to my soul. Butch is a living legend in my opinion. All he has done, then Garbage?! I had every Garbage cassette, and wore them out. Thank you Rick for giving us the back stories that our generation of music lovers want to know about.
@bonus1638
@bonus1638 Жыл бұрын
The synchronised head bobbing of these music lovers is epic. Also, given how many times Butch has already listened to these songs during production and since then, he still air drums and air guitars along with it like a proud dad. Supreme interview Rick and Butch.
@orcafinn
@orcafinn Жыл бұрын
Its adorable, isn't it!
@capoman1
@capoman1 2 ай бұрын
Good point. You know Butch wore these tracks out mixing them and he still has all the love for these songs. He really appreciates the process as much as a musician playing in the song.
@dynamicphotography_
@dynamicphotography_ Жыл бұрын
These interviews are not only amazing, but they must be preserved. These are going to become historical for the next generations to gain knowledge. And that is why Rick's effort must be applauded. He is literally carrying the torch. Protect Rick Beato at all costs.
@johnwelsh2769
@johnwelsh2769 Жыл бұрын
You know, all of these people have been interviewed before. There are countless books and magazines where these guys have talked about their profession. "Behind the Glass" is a great one. "All You need is Ears". Mix Magazine interviewed top pros for years, as did Sound on Sound and Recording magazines.
@scottscottsdale7868
@scottscottsdale7868 Жыл бұрын
Yes. Yea. Yes.
@Adork666
@Adork666 Жыл бұрын
But next generations wont care. Its all about MP3 files, etc... these days. No one cares about analog these days.
@ehenyor
@ehenyor Жыл бұрын
​@@johnwelsh2769 how accessible are they, though? I could not find "Behind the Glass" available online.
@martinaddison4880
@martinaddison4880 Жыл бұрын
I have piles and boxes of those magazines, and those books. I prefer to listen to these interviews.These are INFINITELY better for me because I learn their personality, feel their passion, hear them laugh!
@mkhdnimg
@mkhdnimg 3 ай бұрын
Jesus holy mary hell, I sat through all of that and it was amazing. Ricks interviews reveal that all of his guests and probably everyone involved in making amazing records, are just normal, humble music nerds. Like the rest of us. This was one of the most grounded conversations and I loved every minute of it. Rick's the best.
@thefounding5879
@thefounding5879 Жыл бұрын
This is the juice right here!!!! These interviews open up music for me on a whole different level. I was in my early twenties when these bands rose up and in my forties I decided I wanted to learn how to play music and not just listen to it and these interviews open up an existence I never knew existed. OUTSTANDING!!!!! Rick.........another homerun buddy!!!!!
@ciAMkia
@ciAMkia Жыл бұрын
This JUICE, as you called it, is definitely worth the squeeze here! I love this stuff!
@LarsRyeJeppesen
@LarsRyeJeppesen Жыл бұрын
Ditto here
@hkmoving
@hkmoving Жыл бұрын
We need a show on/with Jimmy Chamberlain...just a monster of a drummer. He deserves more attention. And Rick, this is a phenomenal interview.
@remyboyzz399
@remyboyzz399 Жыл бұрын
This has gotta be Rick’s best interview yet! I’m a novice at production but it’s easy to tell that this interview has something to teach producers at every level.
@DesignRhythm
@DesignRhythm Жыл бұрын
Yep. I'm just a dumb drummer, and even I was fascinated with all the thought that goes into the type of mics, eq, etc. The story of him slicing the tape parallel to only remove half the tracks was next level insanity; I've never heard of someone doing that before.
@ideologybot4592
@ideologybot4592 Жыл бұрын
Butch's love for Jimmy's drumming hits me in the feels. I love this, every bit of it.
@michaelluong6484
@michaelluong6484 Жыл бұрын
Personally speaking, this is the most enjoyable interview you've ever done Rick. Gish, Nevermind, and Siamese Dream are 3 of my most listened to albums ever (I'm just about 40). I've always thought Garbage is a pretty great band. To get this insider view, and to see just how deliberate and down-to-earth Butch freakin' Vig is, has me smiling from ear to ear. I was just captivated by this interview from start to finish. Thank you both.
@Antireality
@Antireality Жыл бұрын
Listening to Butch speak I get the feeling that being a walking encyclopedia of production knowledge accounts for about half of the success, and the fact that he comes across as someone you would be super comfortable talking to, bouncing ideas off of and working with is also a huge part of it.
@brianwood7237
@brianwood7237 Жыл бұрын
This was better than any interview I've ever heard between two producers of music can't wait for part 2 thank you Rick for all your efforts there is nobody out there like you
@GuitarExpress
@GuitarExpress Жыл бұрын
I enjoyed every single minute of this interview. What a gem!
@noelhutz
@noelhutz Жыл бұрын
This is a masterclass. Thank you Rick for your immeasurable contribution to music and its history!
@AndrewEvenstar
@AndrewEvenstar Жыл бұрын
agreed !
@onairsebcycling
@onairsebcycling Жыл бұрын
I was 13 when Nervermind came out. This band was my life. And in 91, you couldn't have any answers to the questions that you had. This is GOLD.
@Rockesb888
@Rockesb888 Жыл бұрын
I was a few years younger and I remember playing Nevermind for the first time on my cousin’s CD player and it blew my mind.
@sonicclang
@sonicclang Жыл бұрын
We're probably about the same age. I was also 13. Changed my life!
@timwatson9156
@timwatson9156 Жыл бұрын
I was 13 also. I remember walking to the tennis court for gym class listening to my yellow Walkman when I first heard Nirvana and it blew my mind.
@robertking2104
@robertking2104 Жыл бұрын
I was 12. I remember watching best music videos of the year marathon. Smells Like Teen Spirit was #1. I hurt my neck in celebratory head banging
@isatralala
@isatralala Жыл бұрын
I was 12 yrs old starting high school... Back then you could rent tape cassette at th library and I had to use mom's stereo to record my copy tape... Will always remember her expressions when the album started playing... Confusion, surprise, interrogation, amused... I loved becoming a teen in the 90's!
@30152708
@30152708 Жыл бұрын
Seeing Butch air drum to Jimmy and Dave's iconic drum hooks is absolutely priceless.
@BlacksburgEV
@BlacksburgEV Жыл бұрын
Please interview Butch again! I could listen to Butch for fucking days....he has the best stories and is just a regular guy. It's like listening to one of your friends talk and Rick has the same qualities. I can not get enough of these interviews. Butch in particular you covered so much ground with and it feels like he's going deep but then you hear him say you barely touched upon what you wanted?! My God damn, I would listen to 5 3 hour interviews with this guy. Please keep doing what you are doing as this is history....that deserves to be remembered. He is a Rockstar in his own right, ai love garbage and always have. I'm glad he got to do the otherside of the coin and I don't think a lot of other producers do. It probably explains a huge chunk of his success.
@awesomezdude12
@awesomezdude12 Жыл бұрын
Wether Rick knows it or not he has left his mark in music and on future generations with his content and this interviews. Thank you, Rick.
@williamfischer7285
@williamfischer7285 Жыл бұрын
Every time I think Rick Beato can’t get any better, something like this comes along. Truly amazing to see these long form interviews
@oxrjbizzle1984y
@oxrjbizzle1984y Жыл бұрын
thank you so much for these interviews Rick, it means so much to us. you can see why bands love Butch, he's so intelligent, so articulate, so sharp, so laid back.....must be the perfect producer!
@floydburney6060
@floydburney6060 Жыл бұрын
.... This is excellent. One of the best interviews on recording/producing/engineering I've ever seen. Butch Vig is one of those guys who just knows the recording process in totality & can explain it in words anyone can understand. And he has great ears. One of the greats in the business for sure.
@NDemanuele1
@NDemanuele1 Жыл бұрын
Wow, I'm glad Rick is getting the recognition he deserves with these Superstar interviews!
@jmazoso
@jmazoso Жыл бұрын
It’s amazing how many of these guys and gals are fans
@willcorg1979
@willcorg1979 Жыл бұрын
Every interview with Butch Vig is pure GOLD!
@stephengiese7549
@stephengiese7549 5 ай бұрын
I love dearly to hear how he got started! Great memory and plenty of humour. Another legend who had music in his life from an early age. Thank you Rick for doing this. Keep it up😀
@ALTERNATIVEMIXTAPES
@ALTERNATIVEMIXTAPES Жыл бұрын
Hands down one of my favorite producers of all time. His records sound amazing.
@DesiranKehendak
@DesiranKehendak Жыл бұрын
No matter how high the level of fame or the legendary status of the guests, Rick simply brings the musicians out of them and somehow the 'celebrity' side resides. I think that is the greatest achievement of this channel.
@leomonster1973
@leomonster1973 Жыл бұрын
Because Rick is a musician interviewing musicians for a channel watched by musicians… wonderful
@DesiranKehendak
@DesiranKehendak Жыл бұрын
@@leomonster1973 precisely!
@Tyrannosaurine
@Tyrannosaurine Жыл бұрын
Agreed. But to be fair, Butch Vig is a super down to Earth dude. If you had posted this on the Billy Corgan interview though….
@DesiranKehendak
@DesiranKehendak Жыл бұрын
@@Tyrannosaurine that is a fair observation, indeed. I guess it's been accumulated and I just found the realization here : )
@luvpants2012
@luvpants2012 Жыл бұрын
He sat down and said "Rick I am a big fan of your channel". How cool was that.
@stansbruv3169
@stansbruv3169 Жыл бұрын
I love this man’s sound. Butch Vig is a super powered producer!
@nicknorod6607
@nicknorod6607 Жыл бұрын
Rick has consistently blown me away with his interviews and song breakdowns. As a former audio engineer and musician I eat this stuff up like Tupelo Honey. It is by far the best thing on KZfaq!
@i-am-alxdz
@i-am-alxdz 7 ай бұрын
Thank you very much for interviewing Butch Vig. This conversation was incredible 👍
@horvathandrew
@horvathandrew Жыл бұрын
I have to say, watching Butch air drum to Jimmy Chamberlain, like I have a million and a half times, made my week. Great interview. Thank you, Rick and Butch!
@markevans390
@markevans390 Жыл бұрын
Let's not wait too long to get Butch back. This was one of the best interviews I have seen in a long time, anywhere.
@CurranKevin
@CurranKevin Жыл бұрын
What a gift. Butch's work *and* Rick's interview. Thank you.
@markeggins890
@markeggins890 Жыл бұрын
Very interesting, and kudos to Rick for not interrupting a lot but letting his guest speak.
@1985SteveB
@1985SteveB Жыл бұрын
What makes Rick great is that people like me, who know hardly anything about music production or engineering, can be completely engrossed in listening to the recording processes. Rick, you're a complete legend. These albums I've listened to thousands of times. Hearing about them being made is completely amazing.
Жыл бұрын
Wow that is a great compliment. Engineers can often get very technical and nerdy.
@jasonhutty
@jasonhutty Жыл бұрын
Right! Now idea what you're talking about, but it's fascinating.
@degm88
@degm88 Жыл бұрын
I’ve been waiting for this interview for a while! Awesome to finally have Butch along.
@mattstopa9436
@mattstopa9436 Жыл бұрын
This is an epic interview.
@piteusx8440
@piteusx8440 Жыл бұрын
A music critic once called Garbage, "Shirley Manson with a bunch of plumbers." LOL. Obviously, he was making fun of their look and not their music. Butch Is a legend. He doesn't get the credit he deserves.
@degm88
@degm88 Жыл бұрын
@@piteusx8440 Agree, both as a musician and as a producer. Friggin’ genius.
@stopbunsen
@stopbunsen Жыл бұрын
This is the stuff that we want as music fans. The behind-the-scenes stories. The equipment they use. We love the minutiae of making music and suck it up like a sponge. I often recall the most detailed stuff about my favourite records and bands, because if you love music you love music and want to learn. An interview like this might be edited by other youtube streamers but I love that the detail is left in. Thank you so much, Rick! It seems like you know what you would want in a music KZfaq channel and that's what you serve us. It's just beautiful and your heart, it shows. You care. Bravo!
@slimlewis5549
@slimlewis5549 18 күн бұрын
Those of us in Madison in the 80’s & 90’s when Butch was rising to the king of the production world were incredibly lucky, because by example he showed that you could rise to the top through hard work & tenacity while remaining a humble, down to earth cool person. AND he provided the local music community a world class studio that was affordable.
@johndrew8
@johndrew8 Жыл бұрын
Through the history of man, pre current media outlets, one of the main/most important person in the tribe was the story teller. This was how the history and sustaining of the tribes traditions survived. Rick is our guy! As always, JD
@AaronIsaak47
@AaronIsaak47 Жыл бұрын
Butch Vig is such a humble legend and Rick’s natural curiosity and interview style is so on point. I’m in heaven listening to these two guys geek out on 90’s rock nostalgia.
@shakyblues2099
@shakyblues2099 Жыл бұрын
Nothing short of fantastic. Great interview. As someone who grew up in the nineties listening to these artists and now at middle age, has started to record bands... this is priceless, insightful, educational and nostalgic. One of the best things I've ever watched on KZfaq. Thank you.
@christinberg
@christinberg Жыл бұрын
Rick is doing more for music appreciation than ANYONE! Thank you Rick.
@Zeta9966
@Zeta9966 Жыл бұрын
I wish we could have had more of a deep dive into Siamese Dream. I feel like that album is the pinnacle of creativity for the both of them
@TheSteevo123
@TheSteevo123 Жыл бұрын
It's literally no exaggeration to say that the records this man produced changed my life. Amazing interview Rick, please do a part 2 as Butch suggested!
@BiLLz66614
@BiLLz66614 Жыл бұрын
I've always really liked butch. He crafted a lot of the sound I grew up listening to. and played a big part in it. Dude really loved what he did. and its awesome.
@capoman1
@capoman1 2 ай бұрын
Wow. This guy was behind ALOT OF ALBUMS that I listened to growing up.
@valuedhumanoid6574
@valuedhumanoid6574 Жыл бұрын
There's a video out about the making of Nevermind and when Butch talked about how he recorded Something In The Way, that's when I knew he was one of the Masters. That is one of the most haunting, mellow, laidback tracks of all time. Very Pink Floyd-ish. An amazing producer.
@Rrruckezzz
@Rrruckezzz Жыл бұрын
One thing I really love about all these amazing interviews is that almost all of the greats of music history are really down to earth. Thats something to think about and to learn from. Thank you so much Rick and Butch❤!
@Subhumanslug
@Subhumanslug Жыл бұрын
"D J Khaled!"
@nigelroddy9125
@nigelroddy9125 4 ай бұрын
It must be so enjoyable for butch to be interviewed by someone so knowledgeable!!
@aquaticborealis4877
@aquaticborealis4877 Жыл бұрын
The precision you need to do that kind of production is crazy.
@MKRumble91
@MKRumble91 Жыл бұрын
I loved loved loved every second of this interview. What a legend Butch is, and thank you Rick for bringing us an amazing history lesson. Being 20 in 1990 I was at the right age to appreciate the massive change this music brought about after suffering years of the Stock, Aitken and Waterman sound, and the hair bands that had become pretty stale. Butch was so pivotal to that change. To hear him tell his story is a real privilege.
@ddthor
@ddthor Жыл бұрын
I loved this. Coming from Madison, we are so proud of Butch and how he put the city on the rock n roll map. Love how he made himself into a great producer.
@nandisaand5287
@nandisaand5287 6 күн бұрын
This guy's memory is amazing. Here he is talking about recording sessions from 30+ years ago and he remembers all the different equipment setups used on different songs
@mikecurtis11
@mikecurtis11 Жыл бұрын
First I thought 'one hour and 45 minutes! when will I have time?' But once I started listening, I couldn't stop. Not a single dull moment. I'm glad they talked about the power of the space in Dave Grohl's drum beat and Shirley Manson's quiet vocal. That contrasting quiet accentuates the power.
@lippi2171
@lippi2171 Жыл бұрын
Rick I mean how awesome is it that in 5 years you got to the point where Butch Vig calls himself a fan of your channel in your interview with him
@withnme
@withnme Жыл бұрын
This interview along with the Corgan interview is key 🔑 These are the answers to questions we’ve been wanting to know for years and so much information has been clouded in mystery or has been misinterpreted along the way. Having these videos and interviews is really a tremendous treat after so many years. Thank you so much Rick!
@JonathanCooperGB
@JonathanCooperGB Жыл бұрын
+the Krist interview ... and wouldn't it be amazing if Rick could get Dave Grohl along one day ...
@CFChristian
@CFChristian Жыл бұрын
You make it sound like he's discussing Akashic Records. He's literally just chatting with friends.
@hectormoreno6908
@hectormoreno6908 Жыл бұрын
As a Madison resident very proud of what he has accomplished also big of Grunge era and Garbage.
@hectormoreno6908
@hectormoreno6908 Жыл бұрын
Fan.
@kaiserjoe2316
@kaiserjoe2316 Жыл бұрын
Was amazed by Butch's back catalogue. Garbage were a major strut to my music psyche growing up. Love this guy even more now.
@freez092also
@freez092also Жыл бұрын
Hands down one of the best interviews I've watched in my life.. I couldn't stop watching it.. and so many technical details combined with memories of hearing this material on the radio when it was first dominating the airwaves... what a wonderful time where artists/musicians/producers/engineers met with technology to create something so organic and genuine that we don't have in music today
@ciAMkia
@ciAMkia Жыл бұрын
Same with me bro. I have an intractable migraine from my time in the military. It's 0409 here and I really should try to sleep, but eff it. This is great stuff. Thank you Rick!!!!
@sub-jec-tiv
@sub-jec-tiv Жыл бұрын
These interviews are gold 🏆 Recorded at Smart a couple of times in the 80s before the big records happened, back when Tar Babies and Killdozer records were the big things on their wall. Butch and Steve Marker are beautiful dudes and it was pure love in that scruffy studio. What a joy to be there with them. Love those guyz they R total working class heroes 🙏
@stevenstasiukiewicz8222
@stevenstasiukiewicz8222 Жыл бұрын
I love all these interviews Rick does. All of them. Better than "Behind the music". No fluff. Hearing the stories of my favorite music and artists from the artists themselves. Absolutely incredible. Thank You. 😊
@ciAMkia
@ciAMkia Жыл бұрын
Perfect description bro, just perfect.
@kenhauser3194
@kenhauser3194 Жыл бұрын
Thank you both. Loved this so very much. Can’t wait for part 2 (please)
@emilyperron5652
@emilyperron5652 Жыл бұрын
As someone who has no experience recording music and half the time I have no idea what they’re talking about, I could listen to them all day. Great interview.
@ponzo1967
@ponzo1967 Жыл бұрын
I remember hearing cherub rock for the first time driving in my car and couldn't believe the sonic quality of it. I love Garbage and of course the first time hearing Teen Spirit in my brother's car is something I'll never forget. Butch is a true talent.
@cryptosecuritytools
@cryptosecuritytools 5 ай бұрын
what a magic interview. Its fantastic to hear about the behind the scenes and also the secrets of music and recording that these people have gleaned over the years
@reel_images
@reel_images 6 ай бұрын
This is a perfect example of how having a skilled audio engineer over more expensive equipment plays out. That's tough to commit a drum set to 6 tracks. Butch is amazing, he became so skilled having to use less equipment. Awesome interview
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