Ridley paid us £250 to fix their bike.

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Жыл бұрын

In this video we take a really close look at the Ridley Kanzo Alu and the Ridley Kanzo Fast. We found so many defects that we had to fix before we could sell this bike. Ridley were good enough to let us fix the faults and compensate us for their time. The end result is this stunning Aluminum gravel bike suitable for racing and touring.
The Bike Features:
Ridley Kanzo Alu Frame (size Large, Silver)
SRAM Rival AXS Shifters
SRAM Force XPLR rear mech
SRAM Force Carbon Cranks 165mm
SRAM Force/Red 42t Chairing
SRAM Apex 12 Speed 11-44 Cassette
SRAM DUB BB (BSA Threaded)
WHEELS:
WTB CZR i23 Carom rims 28 hole
DT Swiss 350 hubs (pre 2021)
DT Swiss Aerolite Spokes (Front) Revolution 2.0/1.5 (Rear)
Good Year Connector Tyre 700x40 Tubeless Complete (rear)
Good Year Peak Tyre 700x40 Tubeless Complete (front)
Purple vales & decals, Cafe Latex Rim Tape and sealant
FINISHING KIT
Deda Zero Stem 90mm
Flared Alu Gravel Handlebar 42cm
Deda Zero Alu seatpost 27.2mm
Ergon Bartape and Pads
ProLogo Dimension NDR 142mm Saddle
You can buy this bike right now via the link below. We can deliver by electric vehicle within about a 100 mile radius of our shop in Kendal. Or you can pay us a visit and we can do any customisation work you might want. mapdec.com/products/ridley-ka...

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@andrewdwyer6195 Жыл бұрын

It’s only when I see someone on camera who’s not used to it, that I notice how good you are at presenting

@Mapdec Жыл бұрын

Thank you

@MattiasThyr 11 ай бұрын

Yes. He could be a great teacher.

@colinandkerry Жыл бұрын

If only my lbs was this good 🤦🏼‍♂️

@Mapdec Жыл бұрын

Thank you

@Bonky-wonky Жыл бұрын

Rare as hen’s teeth, at least in the netherlands where I live.

@davidgarza2267 Жыл бұрын

I can see why you'd like Ridley as a company, but that frame required more work than my $400 Aliexpress frame to get road worthy. That's not ok. Tread carefully I'd say.

@EstelonAgarwaen Жыл бұрын

this video is a bit more hands on but similar to hambini vids :D

@diehardbikes 10 ай бұрын

@@EstelonAgarwaenI like hands on. I say it teaches you more how to do stuff

@tomgraveling8123 Жыл бұрын

I love this channel, I've worked in some shocking bike shops, your shop is amazing I learn things everyday, often get confused but eventually I get it(mostly) and it's so helpful watching your video's as a mechanic. Not because I do this stuff on a marlin 5 but mystery's are solvable and I love handing a bike over when you fixed a default and the customer will never know. Thanks.

@Mapdec Жыл бұрын

thank you Tom, Fancy doing an apprenticeship with us? That love of solving problems is what I am looking for.

@tomgraveling8123 Жыл бұрын

@@Mapdec I would love that, alas I'm 33 however I will come to your shop on my holiday. Labour for knowledge? Or learn how to wheelie hop a time bike😉 never a wasted trip.

@martinkroutil Жыл бұрын

Amazing video, love it. Just show bike industry how it should be done. Great job guys

@Mapdec Жыл бұрын

Thank you.

@themusette5894 Жыл бұрын

Excellent video in so many aspects. Loved discovering some really exotic tools!

@thomaskuhn6541 Жыл бұрын

Really enjoyed the video, lots of great info. Can't say that Ridley has ever been on my radar as a bike I want to own and this video has just reinforced that view. Look and Time are definitely high on my list.

@oreocarlton3343 Жыл бұрын

Hello Hambini fans! So many QR mistakes, were used to it, but oh what could have been😢

@valmorell Жыл бұрын

So so many positive things to say about all this. Will probably do so over the next little while, but let me start by saying I just love that cable routing where it exits at the BB. Canyon did an ally TT frame that way years ago, and the Giant Contend is done that way now. Really practical design.

@alfabethev2.074 Жыл бұрын

A nice honest review👍🏻 Something very, very unusual on the tube these days !! Thx. alot! Keep up your excellent work !! Greetings from 🇸🇪👋🏻

@Mapdec Жыл бұрын

Thanks, will do!

@jimwilliams2239 Жыл бұрын

Thanks again for another really interesting, and unbiased, video. Funnily enough, I'd been looking at the Ridely range before this video. The do some really nice bikes - I particularly like the look of the Fenix. I also like that you can purchase the frameset, including the integrated handlebars.

@iuliannagy1554 Жыл бұрын

I love the Ridley bicycle for its excellent value for money which at the same time looks great. Thanks for this video!

@valmorell Жыл бұрын

At one time there was a Ridley dealer in my area (Suffolk), so there are several amongst my cycling friends. All are pleased with them. That's the best recommendation...

@c4p3fi3rr Жыл бұрын

Am i wrong for finding it unacceptable that frames come out of factories in these conditions? How is a home builder supposed to fix the issues without those specific and very expensive tools? Not to mention that Mapdec is truly one of a kind, i would assume most bike shops wouldn't go even 1/10th as far.

@davidgeorge9233 Жыл бұрын

You’ve hit the nail on the head, some people who are capable of building a bike up but without the skill to delve this far into fixing issues would be forced to pay to have it fixed and also probably end up questioning their own capabilities.

@simonderoo9189 Жыл бұрын

As someone who works in a bike shop that is/was a Ridley dealer. They're not great, the headset is either to tight or it rattles loose after every ride. Full builds are not well assembled, they often need bleeding and indexing of the derailleurs. I've yet to come across the first ridley where when you tighten one bolt on the caliper it doesn't 'move' when you tighten it. Paint overspray and orange peel are quite regular. The design with the d shape steerer tube makes it that the cables make a lot of turns and this will damage the housings over time. And this is even without mentioning that their leadtimes are way longer than other brands like Wilier and Basso.

@dustyhoods Жыл бұрын

Frame is the basement. You need to dicide on materials/geometry/standards and don't care for components (it's upgradable). If in doubt or on a budget - alu with higher specs is better. I'm actually riding Giant Revolt 0 aluminum (2020). Upgraded it over time, looking for new wheels but love the frame - it's damn durable and well made.

@schadenfreude1057 Жыл бұрын

Great video, thanks. I recently bought a Ridley Kanzo alloy (frame looks exactly like the one in your vid). It was purchased directly from the Ridley distributor here in Australia heavily discounted at a little more than half price. It came with GRX810 gearing (but a Forza Crankset) and cost just under $2k AUD. I’m really impressed with it. It arrived with brakes and gears assembled (brakes were bled nicely). Not much assembly required other than the bars and stem and gears needed some indexing. I’ve only had a chance to get out on one gravel ride but it rode very nicely. The only disappointing thing is that the wheels aren’t tubeless ready. Other than that I’m very happy with it at the price. I don’t think I would have paid RRP for it

@ThunderStruckMTB Жыл бұрын

Really enjoying your channel!

@Mapdec Жыл бұрын

Thank you

@valmorell Жыл бұрын

Ridley have always excelled at their paintwork. I seem to remember that back in the day they had their own paint shop in Belgium where they also finished frames for other small brands. Probably still do but I've lost touch a bit now so not certain... I think they also did some stunning paint jobs in the colours of the Belgian flag....

@Swanstanley Жыл бұрын

Ooh , tell me more about blanking cable holes . 😎

@valmorell Жыл бұрын

Aluminium always was a great material for frame building. Most of the time it is used as a second tier material as it's not as 'sexy' as carbon, but when optimised it really excels. One of its huge advantages is that it can be prototyped. Manufacturers can't really do that with carbon as the moulding tools are so expensive. Build the mould, build the bike, even if it's not quite right. Aluminium can also be machined so easily for optimising bearing fitment etc. As long as the manufacturer takes the trouble to do it.

@AG-el6vt Жыл бұрын

And recycling is as easy as melting it.

@ramsden35 11 ай бұрын

Loved this insight.

@alanridley2917 6 ай бұрын

I have a 2012 NOAH, SRAM RED, DT SWISS CARBON WHEELS, size XL and I love it. I also have 2021 KANZO A, MAVIC KSYRIUM TUBELESS WHEELS, and SHIMANO 105 GROUPSET, I love this bike also, but i wish you were my LBS. In Australia our specialist dealers are a long distance apart. You have given me a few things to check and confirm my love of these bikes. I am not related to the company, and I had my surname first. 😂. Keep up the great work. I am a new subscriber. Excellent instructional video

@Mapdec 6 ай бұрын

Nice. Have you taken them apart yet?

@ollyole4560 Жыл бұрын

The regret of spending over £200 on multiple XDR freehubs (Rival AXS upgrades) only for the Apex to launch the following quarter with a hyperglide compatible cassette! Another informative and well rounded video. You could have berated Ridley for those issues (PT and Hambini style) or ignored the issues entirely (most other channels) but you offered a insightful and balanced summary.

@Mapdec Жыл бұрын

Thank you. I feel a reaming is only useful if we open the door to resolution

@bbarber6845 Жыл бұрын

Reminds me of my first bike shop job, take the Italian road bike frames and prep them. We even had a frame alignment table!

@Mapdec Жыл бұрын

Lots of shops did, sadly no more.

@RaMa-vg5xn Жыл бұрын

Rotor 30mm crank in a 41mm hole on the Kanzo Fast is a hard pass. When things get gritty, you wear through BBbearings faster than brake pads.

@stevoc123 Жыл бұрын

From person experience, they’re much tougher and longer lasting than you’d think. Currently still have a rotor bb30 to bsa BB on a gravel/ winter bike and Strava is saying 25,000 k over 5 years old. Those are shitty uk, and Irish winters too so it’s taken a beating. Brilliant from a £50 bb everyone said would explode.

@Bonky-wonky Жыл бұрын

@@stevoc123 mine only last one season in slightly less shitty dutch condutions.

@stevoc123 Жыл бұрын

@@Bonky-wonky maybe hills make them work better 😜

@marciocavalcantidesimone82 Жыл бұрын

Congrat's, apreciated😊I'm Brasilian! Good Jovi.

@BigBeezyBtown Жыл бұрын

I have a $400 Ridley Noah Aliexpress special, and there wasn't a single problem with it when I built it up. I'm 300lbs, and it rides fine, even though my wheel bearings suffer.

@garysladek9110 Жыл бұрын

I bought a 6069 aluminum frame in 2022. It's sold as Serotta Design. They are made in a factory in Taiwan. If you can find out what factory made them for Serotta, you will find a great aluminium frame. I love this bike its called the A9. Serotta is selling the last of them for 295 dollars....a steal. Cheers.

@jdh895 Жыл бұрын

I have a 2018 Helium SLA. I paid £400 for the frameset, which weighed in at 1200g in a medium. Build quality was so-so, but it built up into a sub 8kg road bike, using NOS 10sp Campag, with handbuilt allloy wheels, for under £2k. It'll just about clear 28s, and it's hard to beat for a fast summer/travel, good value road bike. This looks like an upgraded gravel version of that!

@thezenboy Жыл бұрын

Cheers from Canada. As always, wonderfully informative video. Incredible attention to detail with your work. Do you have preferred aluminium bike frames? Appreciate the time you put into these videos. Improving the bike industry one video at time.

@Mapdec Жыл бұрын

Thank you. I think you can see we are hunting for the ideal Alu bikes.

@thedownunderverse Жыл бұрын

@@Mapdecso are we 😂

@highfived Жыл бұрын

Your videos are the best

@Mapdec Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much 😀

@russellbaker4256 Жыл бұрын

One of your best videos. Ridley not ready for prime time. ANY frame having Mapdec QA is worth the extra cash. Send it back, how are Ridley gonna learn?

@simonalexandercritchley439 Жыл бұрын

Lots of good things there,mostly how you are finishing and building. Ridley has potential but they are not there yet with the QC. That bb fit and bearing interface is not acceptable. Keep up the good work.

@petersouthernboy6327 7 ай бұрын

That's too bad - as it stands, a Ridley dealer at present would have to spend too much time ($$$) doing the QC that the many factory should have done.

@workshopninjathe1st Жыл бұрын

Having worked in a Ridley dealer here in the US a few years ago (at the dawn of disc brakes for road and cyclocross). Headsets never fitted properly - our fix was to wrap headset bearings in plumbers tape so the frame held them tightly - but as the shop mechanic I was never happy with this. My boss was happy with the sales at the beginning - but the amount of returning problems were not worth the headache in my opinion. The shop closed down shortly after…

@Mapdec Жыл бұрын

If I ever saw a headset bearing wrapped in electrical tape come into my shop I would send the customer back to where they bought it demanding a refund.

@workshopninjathe1st Жыл бұрын

@@Mapdec Teflon plumbers tape - not electrical tape… but yes I agree - I was not happy with it - it’s what the shop owner was telling me to do…

@Mapdec Жыл бұрын

Wow. Love the user name. 🥷

@TheFloridaBikeVlogger Жыл бұрын

basically I am priced out of all bikes expect used but I am not complaining. happy to have a few rides

@GuanajuatoUK 11 ай бұрын

Pretty much my ideal bike! But buying through the work Cycle to work scheme I'm a bit limited. But you've inspired me to go for a mid life crisis bike from Ribble that's a similar spec. As you suggest, its difficult to get Aly bikes with higher spec bits. So I've been 'forced' to go Ti. No doubt I'll need some guidance with electric gears & hydraulic brakes.😉

@neilk22 Жыл бұрын

The Basso Palta is a beautiful gravel bike also worth looking at. On the alu vs carbon debate, I’ve owned and compared a couple (actually about a 10 now) specialized diverge gen 2 bikes, and consistently am faster on the alu version, and even included C38 carbon wheels on the carbon bike I compared it too, eventually sold it. Last thought is that if you travel, alu bikes and wheels just seem stronger or less likely to be hurt in a bike bag, can’t begin to tell stories of buckled wheels and dings on carbon bikes.

@Mapdec Жыл бұрын

You are right. It is hard to get a carbon bike to be as stiff as alu.

@dcv9460 Жыл бұрын

I would rather have a MASON 😎👍💯

@MrOryly Жыл бұрын

I also upgraded my Kanzo A to a wireless group, I would like to use Di2 but there is no way to mount a battery so I sticked to Sram. The next upgrade will be carbon wheels.

@stuart8872 Жыл бұрын

I would like to see you to get your hands on a Kinesis frame or two. Great range of aluminum frames with well thought out details, the RTD geo was a few years ahead of the trend. But how good are they really......🤔😉

@Mapdec Жыл бұрын

They are good. We struggle to get hold of them these days though. We built a couple for audax riders.

@joedixon4184 11 ай бұрын

I built up a Kinesis Aithein in 2019. Full Ultegra 6800 mechanical groupset (apart from the front mech. That had to be the new Ultegra due to the frame not being compatible with the old style front mech) and just put on a set on Scribe 38 Aero wheels. Sub 8kg too coming in at 7.8kg. I actual prefer riding it to my Canyon Aeroad! The frame responds so well and it climbs like a goat! Super comfy too actually considering it's alloy. My only con with it is that the paint is quite thin so you have to really careful looking after it, but it does look wicked.

@knifesharpeningnorway 5 күн бұрын

I hope my Ridley grifn allroad aluminium frame with 105 turns out to be good.

@stevehoskins1 Ай бұрын

Great review and excellent info. I am thinking of buying a Custom Ridley Kanzo, undecided which one, Fast or Adventure, but seeing the issue you had with the bottom bracket and brake mounts has made me wonder. Is this something you could check and resolve for someone making an order after delivery to you? Also very interested to know what the tool was that you measured the BB diameter of the Kanzo Fast?

@jevgeniardassov Жыл бұрын

Funny thing. I wanted to get a Ridley Griffin next year. Now I am not so sure. I have sorted out my Ribble CGR, facing and truing and honing and now it seems it is might be better than a Ridley, the problem is, CGR was 1700.- for the frameset, Ridley I wanted was over 4000.- 😕

@Iron883Man Жыл бұрын

Don't know where you got a quote like that for a Grifn frame, but sounds like someone is trying to rip you off. I live in Belgium and official price here is 3.195 EUR for a frame, including the 450 EUR custom paint job.

@noahhalbfoster6892 Жыл бұрын

I love my Noah sl disc great bike won't buy another ridley until they move from pressfit

@oliverleibbrandt8067 Жыл бұрын

Could you try doing this type of video with qc on other larger bike brands

@Mapdec Жыл бұрын

we have. there is quite a big back catalogue now.

@sarunasgardzijauskas629 Жыл бұрын

Just found your channel.Amazing videos,Cant stop watching :)Wish i had lbs like yours around here.I have a question please-could you advise please if i should go for a carbon wheels or good quality alluminium wheels.I have a 10 year old Thompson R7200 with Mavic Open Pro wheels built by LBS due to spokes breaking with stock wheels.Its a 700c622 wheels with 25 mm tyres-there is no space to put bigger tyres on.I am thinking about new bike but upgrading wheels might just do it for me.Thanks.

@Mapdec Жыл бұрын

Rim brakes. Depends. Disc brakes, yes, defo

@shenava Жыл бұрын

I hope you don't become a Ridley dealer until and unless they sort out their QC.

@Mapdec Жыл бұрын

That’s the plan. I am hoping we see a part 2

@ianiscaratti4924 Жыл бұрын

had a treck crockett with chris king ceramic T47, schmolke wheels and other fancy parts. rode it twoo full cx season and lot of road an crit riding. regret selling it...

@sabamacx Жыл бұрын

I wouldn't put Mason anywhere near the same league as the Ridley: Dedacciai aluminium hand-made in Italy with quality foremost vs yet-another cost-saving Taiwanese frameset. Belgian prices for Taiwanese frames?

@echtogammut Жыл бұрын

Good title. :)

@Mapdec Жыл бұрын

Thank you

@AG17_1 Жыл бұрын

Had exactly the same undersized BB on a recent Ridely Fenix. Same rotor bearing but felt very notchy. Paint overspray and both drive side and non-drive required sizing correctly (using Hambini gauge). I'm currently hand sanding so would be interested to know what cylinder honing tool you are using please.

@Mapdec Жыл бұрын

The one in the vid is the park tool one. It is not the answer to everything though. Hand sanding is probably best in most cases.

@bernieclapcott9749 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the video. Given the cost of the Ridley bikes, I would expect a much better QC. Having to do so much faffing around on the build is unacceptable. I wouldn't be including them as a consideration on my next purchase.

@MTBScotland Жыл бұрын

Having built frames up on my bikes for the last decade I get that some manufacturers don't face the BB and headtube for frame only. but the rest of that is pretty shoddy especially the crown race issue. For a high end carbon bike that is shocking. Would put me right off them.

@BrianAndTheBike Жыл бұрын

Did you know when it's gonna be avilable the aero bike made in alloy from ridley 👀

@basvanleeuwen4502 Жыл бұрын

For this money I would choose the previous generation Cannondale topstone and upgrade it with SRAM rival and a set of DT swiss gravel wheels.

@LTBlightthebeam Жыл бұрын

More Jake please

@Mapdec Жыл бұрын

I think we can do that. 😊

@MattiasThyr 11 ай бұрын

Great work of shaping up the brands in an constructive way. Someone must start set a standard to those bigger brands.

@dmlopezleon Жыл бұрын

Buen video, hay muy buenas marcas que fallan en el montaje final, la pintura, falta de grasa, falta de pasta para carbono, y esto hace que el producto final no este a la altura de la marca.

@AutoCAD681 5 ай бұрын

Checkpoint for me

@stuartdryer1352 11 ай бұрын

I would runaway screaming from that manufacturer. 😮

@richardgate1571 Жыл бұрын

Interesting use of shimano cassette, chain with SRAM chainring and mech. I thought the roller pitch was different on SRAM 12 speed? Did you need to change the pulley wheels on the AXS mech?

@Mapdec Жыл бұрын

It’s a SRAM apex cassette. 11-44 12speed. It’s just on the Shimano HG free hub system.

@add28 Жыл бұрын

If you want a brand that can offer you good quality gravel frames comparable to Look or Time, think about Cannondale? I inspected my 2023 Topstone Carbon your way and it was perfect. The only small drawback was dry steering bearings, apart from that immaculate quality 🙂

@Mapdec Жыл бұрын

I know Cannondale well. There are like owning an exotic sports car. Troublesome, always need fettering, have weird parts, nothing quite fits, but they do ride very well.

@basvanleeuwen4502 Жыл бұрын

@@Mapdec totally agree, I had as mentioned a previous generation topstone with 105 and I couldn't get the rear derailleur to shift properly, replaced the derailleur pad twice, tested a different deraileur, cassette, shifter and stiffer thruaxle but somehow it just so often would not shift up or down, brought it two to different dealers. Both could not find a solution. I also had a caad 13 which was one of the nicest road bikes I have ever had in terms of ride feel and quality. Paintwork on both bikes was really good and hard, but the welds where quite messy. Bottle cages holes not in line with the tubes on both bikes and the where both poorly specced for the price.

@alanrhoades1981 Жыл бұрын

I brought a orange Ridley kanzo adventure frame in carbon to your workshop around 4 months ago , after a quick inspection it was a very similar to yours ,paint overspray everywhere inside the bb ,headset bearing faces, brake mounts and seat tube, rather than have it worked on I returned it to the retailer, very disappointing

@campvica 11 ай бұрын

What kind of tool would you use to fix an undersize BB like that? Are there consumer variants available to buy you reckon?

@Mapdec 11 ай бұрын

200 grit paper, blue dycum, and an internal micrometer. We have vids on this manual process.

@campvica 11 ай бұрын

Found it, Yoeleo vid! @@Mapdec Any idea on where to find a 40.85mm gauge? Heard you mentioned praxis but haven't been able to find it on search. Cheers

@jrh1704 7 ай бұрын

Great vid! I've been keeping up with the Cannondale nightmare as well. What's the story with carbon fiber and grease? I was under the impression not to add grease to bearings/ bb on a carbon frame or carbon fork? I was sure you even spoke about that on the last Cannondale update, saying not to add grease. Yet, this Ridley seems to have quite a bit of grease around the steerer tube of the fork, and even some on the headset bearings on top. I was told grease can act like a cutting compound to carbon fiber, slowly wearing the outer surface down. I understand each manufacturer has its own directions, but surely greasing stainless to carbon fiber either negatively affects carbon fiber or it doesn't. Thanks!

@Mapdec 7 ай бұрын

It’s more about PressFit friction than chemical reactions

@Skittlez19 Жыл бұрын

How does the tension drop on the rear wheel with the tyre off? Did you mean 150kgf with tyre off and 110kgf with tyre on?

@Mapdec Жыл бұрын

115kgf

@mike_f Жыл бұрын

Awesome vid. Aren't the BB reaming tools somewhat unobtainium these days? Wonder if they just don't have the tooling for best QC on the BB. Not really acceptable for a manufacturer but thought crossed my mind

@Mapdec Жыл бұрын

Yes. And bonkers expensive, and Carbon wears them out really fast.

@patrickparisienne1917 Жыл бұрын

@@Mapdeccorrect me if I’m wrong, but carbon requires different cutting tools from metal? More like diamond coated tooling?

@Mapdec Жыл бұрын

You are thinking of the disc brake facer. Out of stock everywhere. Doesn’t work that well either. Cutters work really well. Bit you can’t cut deep and they wear out really fast. You cant really use a diamond abrasive for reaming an accurate hole because they are just crushed up diamonds stuck to metal. You can’t really make one exactly 40.98mm.

@kpizzle1985 Жыл бұрын

On the subject of carbon paste on aero seatposts, why do mechanics apply paste to the sides where there is no clamping force? In my experience it just causes abrasion of the carbon post so I only put paste on the front and rear where there is force against the frame and clamp. Am I missing something?

@Mapdec Жыл бұрын

The clamp should push the seatpost into the frame for friction.

@kpizzle1985 Жыл бұрын

@@Mapdec that's what I was getting at, pretty much every bike build on KZfaq shows the mechanic covering the entire post on paste, it just makes an unnecessary mess of the seat post.

@veganpotterthevegan Жыл бұрын

@kpizzle1985 there's still a friction gain to be had from the surface area on the sides.

@MrHoward222 Жыл бұрын

Yes, especially if using a wedge system as the seat post will ovalize (elastically, hopefully!) v slightly as the wedge is tightened.

@robertallardice8119 Жыл бұрын

Do Ridley still make Merckx frames?

@leandermeulebroeck Жыл бұрын

Ridley still owns the Merckx brand.

@larsdohmen6796 Жыл бұрын

I really like ridley, the only thing i dont like are they carbon cockpits like the cirrus pro, F1 G1 etc... I've had a lot of bad experiences with these as a bikeshop mechanic, often there are carbon flakes, sharp edges and other things on the inside of these. There is not enough room to fit 4 cables for mechanical shifting in there aswell, we have had so many struggles with these things, a quick headset change takes us up to 2 - 3 hours, we charge the customer 150€ for it.

@Mapdec Жыл бұрын

Hey, the headset thing is true of most brands these days now. I didn't see any sharp edges on this frame. I have a Noah Fast in now though, so will take a close look at that. Thanks for adding your experience.

@larsdohmen6796 Жыл бұрын

@@Mapdec true, the problem with the ridley's is that they all use a D-shaped steerer with the normal small bearings, because of this all the cables get cramped. When they get cramped they pish each other into the edge where they enter the stem. When you take one appart you should also be able to see a wedge that fills the other half of the d shaped steerer, this wedge caused us a lot of trouble aswell with brake hoses getting crushed or Di2 cables getting stuck. But you will definitely see for yourself, good luck with them!

@okantichrist Жыл бұрын

This is so depressing. We’re expected to pay 1000’s for something that is far from perfect. I can’t see myself ever buying a brand new bike again .

@Mapdec Жыл бұрын

Except from a bike shop that actually checks and sees that you get a good one. We are out there!

@okantichrist Жыл бұрын

East Kent ?🤣

@rauli386 Жыл бұрын

I recently got a cheap chinese gravel frame, and definitely way lower quality than this, but the bottom bracket was correctly faced

@cristaldubragg3110 Жыл бұрын

Shame on Ridley

@531c Жыл бұрын

Was about to buy a Ridley Kanzo fast with Sram rival 1. A good deal at £ 2199. Is it too good to be true?

@Mapdec Жыл бұрын

basicly a frame with some free parts

@kkkwwwaaakkk Жыл бұрын

Ridleys most famous bike is the rim brake Helium SLX

@byc1013 Жыл бұрын

I am still trying to get one. I have the Helium SLA

@nickyburnell Жыл бұрын

If that is the QC on the outside you better hope the paint isn't covering poor welds. Mass production and expensive. The sooner people start going back to proper frame builders the better. Pay once for something special that will be perfect.

@Iron883Man Жыл бұрын

I've been riding Ridley bikes for 20+ years and never had a problem. Currently have a Kanzo Fast and it's a joy to ride. QC is probably lower on the Kanzo A as it is their cheapest entry level bike. Also, if you get a Ridley, get a custom paint job. It will cost you only 100-450 EUR extra and the quality control is better on individual paint jobs then it will be on the ones done in series. Well, at least up to now because they have a new painting line since a few weeks to do series...so that may improve as well as they will be done in-house now.

@sabamacx Жыл бұрын

> QC is probably lower on the Kanzo A as it is their cheapest entry level bike. But they still proudly put their name on it, and charge it/sell it with their reputation putting it at risk.

@rjacko7478 Жыл бұрын

Both ..

@feedbackzaloop Жыл бұрын

Nope, paint overspray shoudn't be a concern of QC. There is simply an operation missing.

@Mapdec Жыл бұрын

Yep. That’s one way to see it.

@feedbackzaloop Жыл бұрын

@@Mapdec and another way is not to see at all, like Ridley inspector did?

@user-uu3xz2uv4y Жыл бұрын

I brought a ridley frame the other day , and I did not have any of the problems you had , with no paint on the places that caused your problems

@Mapdec Жыл бұрын

That’s great to hear.

@dmalcantara Жыл бұрын

Which band you don’t see these issues?

@Mapdec Жыл бұрын

The good ones are on the channel too.

@olavrb Жыл бұрын

Time and Look.

@aitorbleda8267 Жыл бұрын

Considering how cheap is to do that at the factory, it is insulting

@veganpotterthevegan Жыл бұрын

Overall, if they did this with every bike, it would cost them even more money. They let this go through because so many bikes that are just a bit out of tolerance won't have problems.

@jamble7k Жыл бұрын

do you wanna have to do this for every ridley you sell? seems like a big profit margin destroyer

@Mapdec Жыл бұрын

If they keep paying £250 for corrective work I will make more money from Ridley than the customer... However, more to the point, I am hoping that we could see the first public appraisal and corrections of a brands QC... we will wait and see.

@shikharb6501 Жыл бұрын

Correction: 9.10-8.73= 370g difference, not 330g😅

@Mapdec Жыл бұрын

thanks

@andreemurray7039 Жыл бұрын

It's sad that manufacturers have taken thier foot off the pedal seams they are rushing out thr product regardless of price and added cost when you have to take it to people like your self to remedy

@outdoorvertical 11 ай бұрын

Could you not sell your own "brand" frames, open source except with decent quality QC? I would pay extra knowing that a "mapdec" would likely be higher quality than the mainstream frame brands.... and you could even spec 27.2 and rim brake road frames😂

@Mapdec 11 ай бұрын

It’s not something that interests me really. I like fixing things and coaching.

@andrewszczplaylist Жыл бұрын

Ridley with mechanical GRX 2x for ease of life.

@stevoc123 Жыл бұрын

You’d expect that bullshit on a planet-x not a Ridley. I wouldn’t buy one even at the super discounted prices they can be found on line.

@squareyesj7170 Жыл бұрын

Imo, the weight is too high. The Kanzo at 8.75kg is porky. Both these bikes are at least 1kg too heavy for me, a deal breaker for both bikes.

@Mapdec Жыл бұрын

show us your 7.7kg Gravel bike then....

@squareyesj7170 Жыл бұрын

@@Mapdec Easy fella, no need to get stroppy. I'm surprised by your reaction. I could easily build a gravel or rigid mountain bike up to 7.5kg without using super exotic parts and still have change from what these bikes cost. 7.75kg is not a super weight weenie target, that would be in the sixes. But what do I know hey? You're the professional...

@nixxnuzz3960 Жыл бұрын

@@squareyesj7170 show us your 7.7kg Gravel bike then....

@steppings5645 Жыл бұрын

The General used to blaze down the phone to Dick Dastardly, I assume Ridley are calling the Far East now!

@qibble455 Жыл бұрын

I don't think Ridley should make high end bikes. They should stick to tour bikes, kids bikes and entry-level bikes. Nothing about them screams awesome. I think they'll always be mid tier at best.

@MS-bw7yt Жыл бұрын

As an engineer I have to say it's a bit ridiculous to evaluate carbon compaction by just looking inside the frame with a camera😅 nevertheless a good video but I am kind of disappointed with the Ridley quality

@Mapdec Жыл бұрын

True. I would love an ultra sound. On really bad frames you can see the rough surface where the bag has not pressed.

@MS-bw7yt Жыл бұрын

@@Mapdec You as a bike shop shouldn’t have to worry about getting an ultra sound to evaluate carbon frame quality in the first place. Any product that you buy new, should be flawless. You don’t buy a car and drive it out of the showroom right to your mechanic to have it checked. But the reality in the cycling industry is that bike branks ask astronomical prices for piss-poor engineering and you as a bike shop have to deal with a huge mess of QC-fails, manufacturing defects and design flaws...

@Mapdec Жыл бұрын

True. But who holds them to account?

@MS-bw7yt Жыл бұрын

@@Mapdec I guess normally an informed customer who stops buying shit products for bad prices. And maybe legal institutions that enforce stricter safety regulation for bike frames and production. But to be honest, I guess the “informed” part still needs a lot of time. Marketing is very big and too much cyclists have to much money to burn. Exactly for that reason, I highly value channels like yours, peak torque, hambini and co. because you are an independent source of information.

@McDonaldPhotography Жыл бұрын

Good resolution. You charge them.. but want a partnership! Mmmmmm

@Mapdec Жыл бұрын

I'm intrigued to see where this goes. The follow up vids could potentially be a lot more interesting... could we actually see a brand publicly take action on their QC? I have opened the door, so to speak.

@Andy-co6pn Жыл бұрын

I just dont see the attraction of an aluminium gravel frame. Its like the worst of both worlds, heavier than carbon, less compliant than steel. Makes sense as a material for a hardcore mtb hardtail, with a suspension fork and big tyres. Just my 2p

@Mapdec Жыл бұрын

It makes sense when you need to hang various bags, racks and fenders from it, but Ti is too much and steal too heavy.

@user-cx2bk6pm2f Жыл бұрын

OCD?

@Mapdec Жыл бұрын

I hate bikes that creak, rub, and rattle

@levifulop7283 10 ай бұрын

: they will just make raw carbon frames without any paint in the future

@Mapdec 10 ай бұрын

Then they couldn’t call it made it Belgium. There is a rule that a certain amount of value has to be added in country

@levifulop7283 10 ай бұрын

yeah they wont stop painting them, I love these videos where you check the details of frames, it is very interesting@@Mapdec

@davidgeorge9233 Жыл бұрын

I’m struggling to think of another industry for premium products where this would be accepted, it baffles me that the bike industry haven’t sorted this out and that just about every brand seems guilty of the same thing, poor QC control due to poor finishing from the factory. I genuinely think they don’t care, it’s marketing above engineering every time. If this comment seems defeatist then perhaps it’s too many videos of this kind from yourselves and Hambini demonstrating to us how crap the industry can really be.

@Mapdec Жыл бұрын

Cars, fashion, …

@davidgeorge9233 Жыл бұрын

@@MapdecMaybe, difference is with cars is that you usually buy from a dealer who will put things right under the warranty period, it’s more often than not a change of a part that’s failed with a car, not a fundamental issue with how the structure of the car goes together. Either way, it’s still incredible that these companies aren’t embarrassed enough by this to get it done right.

@Mapdec Жыл бұрын

The bikes I sell get put right before a customer rides them too. It’s not my fault that people cheap out and buy online 🤷‍♂️

@jonathantatler Жыл бұрын

Disabled comments on the "Chip in shorts"? Eff you kers

@Mapdec Жыл бұрын

🤷‍♂️

@thedownunderverse Жыл бұрын

Reaming the Ridley, literally and figuratively. Chap-fucking-eau

@kris8165 11 ай бұрын

Jesus Christ 😢 Split steerer just for the sake of fancy, useless, integration... Aero gravel bike????😅 And that aluminum frame looks 10 times better than that plastic frame... That is just a one's every day bicycle abuser opinion! New bikes are seriously incredibly ugly! They look like some "AI" is designing them.. Greetings from Croatia 😎