Charles de Gaulle said Patriotism is when love of your own people comes first; nationalism, when hate for people other than your own comes first

Well, the fact that he made himself scarce pretty rapidly during the assault on the Capitol building shows that he's a coward!

He doesn’t love his neighbors

I'm sure it's just rhetoric for the video title, but saying that he "needs a history lesson" misses the point; the problem isn't that Hawley's remarks are historically inaccurate, but that right-wingers only view history as a tool that they can hammer into whatever shape serves their agenda.

The Puritans came to the New World to escape religious persecution and as soon as they were in the New World, they proceeded to persecute anyone who wasn't a Puritan.

As a brit hearing someone talk about puritans as if they weren't fringe Christmas hating tyrants is wild. They literally ran to make their own country because they werent allowed to opess people over here anymore.

Why is it germans can own up to their horrific history but people in our own country need to make up their own reality as cope? It's shameful.

Hawley includes a reference to "blood and soil", a fascist term

They will allow us to worship any way we want as long as we follow their rules that are based in their beliefs.

Also Oliver Cromwell, the Puritan dictator of England, offed 40% of the population of Ireland during the 1640s Cromwellian invasion of the island. So no, the Puritans were not some enlightened folk who loved freedom and kept to themselves as many make them out to be.

The only thing they’re missing are the white robes in the pointy hats.

Love for neighbor...unless he's brown or gay or ??? 😢😢😢😢

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof..." The principle is paraphrased from Thomas Jefferson's "separation between Church & State." It has been used to express the understandings of the intent and function of this amendment, which allows freedom of religion.

The idea that they stand for the dignity of the common man when so many of the core conservative thought leaders like Calhoun, Goldwater, Ayn Rand, and William F. Buckley have spoken about how the common man should be ignored in favor of the exceptional man and how contemptuous they were of the masses.

He needs to move to russia

As mom used to say....God save me from thr Christians...

Christian nationalism and Zionism goosestep in unison and share the same goals.

Run Josh run! Don't let the door hit you in the arse on the way out! Vote Blue!

He speaks as if he has a pair of socks stuck in his mouth.

Sounds like the common denominator to all those previous projects was the nationalism part…

the reason religious nationalism of any sort is especially awful, if that people justify themselves as being divine, and if you oppose them, you are against god, and who are you to go against the will of god. and in that mind set they jsutify them to do what ever they wish upon people.

The whole republican party need to take a history class

I'm uncomfortable with referring to such people as "Christian nationalists". Christian nationalism is so inextricably intertwined with the racism of "White Christian nationalism", that simply calling them "Christian nationalists" feels like drawing a distinction that doesn't really exist and is giving them a pass.

The Christian faith defines the dignity of the common MAN. The Christian faith disparages the dignity of the common WOMAN.

Weird thing here is that Hawley has a degree in history, and while he was at Stanford his professors were impressed at how quickly and thoroughly he was able to get through material- apparently, he was widely thought of as a brilliant intellectual during his time there. I'm guessing his ambition to climb the ladder of emerging fascism outweighs his commitment to what he surely knows to be true about history.

Remember all the times Democracy is quoted in the Bible? Yeah, neither do I.

Oh I can’t wait to vote this Hawley out of office! November he’s out. Lucas Kunce , 2024 Missouri Senator! Talk to the Quakers about religion in the new world.

How long after this version of Gilead is instituted until they start coming after gays? I kind of need to know.

Has he heard of the Crusades?

It can't be faith if it's forced.

Insofar as I know, Rome was relatively stable and prosperous while the center of it remained detached from any specific religion, allowing the places they absorbed retain whatever religious customs, figures, myths, etc. it was when Rome became Christian and began to attack any other systems of religion that the empire started to crack and become dissolute. Saturnalia wasn't the problem.

The one huge problem with Christian Nationalism is which sect of Christianity will be the one to rule? The Catholic Evangelicals v the Pentecostals v the non denomination evangelicals v Southern Baptist Evangelicals v… Although their beliefs are all based upon believing that Christ was the son of god who died to redeem the human race; the details around that belief vary broadly. The infighting over whose cannon law interpretation was the correct one as well as many of the leaders being caught in blatantly immoral acts was what destroyed the Moral Majority. We have already seen leaders of this new Christian Nationalist movement exposed for their immorality. Just wait for them turning against each other as they vie for positions of power or point fingers and blame each other for their loses.

The Puritans were clear examples to the founders of what they didn't want the US to be. Just look up what the Puritans did to Quakers and right away that blows a hole in the idea they had any sort of tolerance or goodwill, the Puritans wanted their own flavor of theocracy

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Thank you all

The Heritage Foundation is producing the Project 2025 "Mandate For Leadership". The Federalist Society provides the list from which to nominate conservative judges.

Nationalism is good in an anti-colonial context, e.g. Irish, Algerian, Cuban, Palestinian

Hawley is so weird and creepy. When people strive to be too "normal" they end up being more weird and creepy

Exactly what I'd expect from a Yaley.

They're are not stupid just an opportunists with lack of it self identity... They don't care about human values or colective meanings, but just their self well being as vanity

When I look up "goober" Hawley's picture pops up!

Has Josh ever heard of the Crusades?

Remember the original Beetlegeuss movie? Remember when Alec Baldwin & Geena Davis stretch their dead faces all out, in order to scare off tge Deetz family? Josh Hawley looks like he only made it partway through that process, before running away like he did on J6... What a tit!

American Civics and History, especially the absent World History, is appalling. Much of European history is replete with religious wars. " European wars of religion The European wars of religion were a series of wars waged in Europe during the 16th, 17th and early 18th centuries.[1][2] Fought after the Protestant Reformation began in 1517, the wars disrupted the religious and political order in the Catholic countries of Europe, or Christendom. Other motives during the wars involved revolt, territorial ambitions and great power conflicts. By the end of the Thirty Years' War (1618-1648), Catholic France had allied with the Protestant forces against the Catholic Habsburg monarchy.[3] The wars were largely ended by the Peace of Westphalia (1648), which established a new political order that is now known as Westphalian sovereignty. " - Wikipedia The Catholic church also formed a relationship with the Nazis. " The Reichskonkordat ("Concordat between the Holy See and the German Reich"[1]) is a treaty negotiated between the Vatican and the emergent Nazi Germany. It was signed on 20 July 1933 by Cardinal Secretary of State Eugenio Pacelli, who later became Pope Pius XII, on behalf of Pope Pius XI and Vice Chancellor Franz von Papen on behalf of President Paul von Hindenburg and the German government. It was ratified 10 September 1933 and it remains in force to this day. " The Catholic Church by Papal Bulls created the 'Doctrine of Discovery' that non-Christian lands were free for the taking, the people's to be subjugated as less than human. This was later codified by US and International law. " The discovery doctrine, or doctrine of discovery, is a disputed interpretation of international law during the Age of Discovery, introduced into United States municipal law by the US Supreme Court Justice John Marshall in Johnson v. McIntosh (1823). In Marshall's formulation of the doctrine, discovery of territory previously unknown to Europeans gave the discovering nation title to that territory against all other European nations, and this title could be perfected by possession. "

I like and truly appreciate Eric Blair's (George Orwell) distinction between patriotism and nationalism. America was not founded on the viewpoints of St. Augustine of Hippo, a pacifist from North Africa. America was founded by "ALBION'S SEED," largely Anglo-Saxon-Celtic settlers. The Puritans of Massachusetts, the Cavaliers and Huguenots who settled the Carolinas, and the Scotch-Irish who settled Appalachian territory all shared a common ethnic ancestry and their own versions of Christian-style civilization. Deism actual played a very minor role in the establishment of our Constitutional Republic.

His voice is completely affected, you can hear his voice wants to be higher and softer.

Bragging about "friendly fascism." I prefer democracy.

Josh Hawley has never been in a bar fight. 👊😎

Like he was wrong from the start , Rome was Christian for the majority of its history

Augustine promoted the idea that the church has the right to use the power of the state to punish, oppress, and kill heretics. As a conservative he's also promoting the idea that Catholic Social Teaching should replace civil and social democratic structures by transferring government funding from government agencies (beholden to democratic structures) to the church (beholden to ecclesiastical hierarchies.) He's not giving a speech. This is an exercise in Christian/Catholic apologetics, which is another tie to Augustine.

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Josh Hawley is terrifying. I can see him compelling many people who can't see through his charisma and confidence.

Did Emma possibly leave early and go to Pennsylvania?

ALL christians cheery pick morals from the book that agree with therbown and ignore the ones they disagree with , which demonstrates the book is not neccesery

Hawley didn't mention the part where Jesus says give away all your riches and love your neighbor as yourself. Then again, Jesus was not Christian. Also, this is the first time I've heard Puritans linked to Augustine.

Paganism caused ethnic hatred? What? Is he doing a free association bit where the meanings of words don't matter... or is this a deadly serious confession of fascism? I'm really getting tired of this "game".

Interesting that he brings up "blood and soil", who was shouting that carrying torches again in this country, like six years ago? The same kinda people that made Josh Run. Run Josh Run.

absolutely insane good shit guys

I'm not exactly a theologian, but where in the bible is he getting love of country? Even god's chosen people spent a majority of their runtime talking about how bad they all are at following god. Render unto Caesar what is Caesar's isn't exactly a rousing endorsement of the empire.

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It's complicated. Christian chauvinism was used to justify a lot of atrocities, but the official founding documents are secular, but did not outlaw slavery or genocidal policies. We can't lose sight of the fact that religion and secularism have both been used to justify anything. The 'Free will / determinism' debate does not belong exclusively to one side or other of the theistic debate either.

It would be worthwhile to try to understand what Hawley meant by using the term "augustinian." In the 20th century United States, the term was often used by theorists as a way to reconcile Christian faith with commitment to liberal values. Ultimately it goes back to Augustine's "city of god/city of man" but that's not terribly relevant here. The idea was that the basic values of liberal society were ultimately derived from historical Christianity, sometimes explicitly, but just as often in an indirect or hidden way. In other words, political theorists of liberalism tried to find ways of defending "Christian values" without requiring personal adherence to Christian faith - John Locke being example number one. People like Reinhold Niebuhr and John Courtney Murray tried to bring these ideas into a contemporary context, i.e., a post-war context. Josh Hawley, however, is trying to use the suggestion of this intellectual tradition to steal liberal thunder for right-wing purposes. Niebuhr and Murray were not "Christian nationalists." But Hawley wants us to think Christian nationalism is simply an affirmation of liberal ideas such as the value of the individual person, in that this idea can be said to derive from Christianity without being based on an explicit legislation of Christianity as such. But that's not what Christian nationalism is. Hawley (and whatever right-wing intellectual he's invoking) is lying.

When I think of Christian nationalism, I can't help but think of White nationalism.

To be fair, it's self-serving propaganda, I don't the general view, most likely of most people is that actual history gets in the way of pleasant mythologising and resort to fictional history for justification of present behaviour.

Take a jog, josh

Republican Senator John Danforth, who helped promote Hawley's political career, said this about Hawley: “This is a Greek tragedy,” Danforth says. “This is the fall of somebody from a high position. There’s some tragic flaw there. And I’ve also been thinking of the Garden of Eden. Maybe the apple is presidential politics.”

All I'll say is, 2016 Las Vegas political rally, hosted by a guy with suspect hair who likes golf. So latest attempt - though shockingly close - is not unprecedented.

Josh Hawley is an actual snake

Who is aw gus tin? Is that a goofy protestant pronunciation?

I love you brothers and sisters!!!!!!!

Strangest interpretation of Christianity I've ever heard.

Why doesn’t this channel mention anything about the assassination attempt??

Even if we grant that Christianity is a positive force multiplyin it by the negative nationalisim will equal negative christian nationalism, it's simple maffs.

*Christ isn't the problem those who use him to force their power onto others using Christ are.*

That's what it means to be a mighty man of valor.

No one loved or respected anyone until 2,000 years ago. It's true!! And speaking of love and respect, I give you Donald Trump...

The more josh talks the more I mutter "fface fface fface." Yuck

That man has never read the Bible once. Ask Josh to tell us his redemption story, from how Jesus saved him from his unrepentant sins to repentant. I want to hear what Jesus saved him from. ......he wont

Sen. Hawley, why the long face?

“We are a nation forged from Augustine’s vision,” sounded to me like ‘Augustan’, evoking the formal end of the Republic - already practically dismantled in civil war and military juntas - and its replacement with autocratic dictatorship. Augustus (formerly Octavian) was of course not a Christian - dying himself before Jesus even started preaching - but to the contrary initiated the Imperial cult that would be an instrument for persecution of Christians! If that was a “Freudian slip” on my part, it’s perhaps one that Hawley himself was saved from making by his very ignorance of history. As to the centuries later subversion of the church itself into being an arm of the emperors’ Roman state, that strikes me as the greatest defeat of the Gospel. The USA’s founders’ insistence on a Bill of Rights, with disestablishment in the very first article, was informed by the horrific history of the European wars of religion. Christian nationalism is unworkable in the first place because every Christian is a damned heretic in the eyes of a plurality of other Christians.

I live in Missurah. Duh, tell me what to think.

Augustine wrote a book called 'the city of god'

What christian denomination? I don't think people understand that maybe if they don't fit the right belief they will be forced to change. Do we have to wear something that proves our christianity?

Hawley is such a political weasel and a hack.

I can't listen to this dude speak. even if only for the purposes of trashing him. can't do it.

It would be a guy who looks this goofy and talks like a terrible DnD dm who could use less theatre classes, who says this kinda blatant dogwhistling

I pray the good people of Missouri will aid in ejecting Mr. Hawley from national governance at the earliest possible moment. He looks even worse (if that's possible) when compared to Claire McCaskill.

Fuk is he even talking about?

Jan 6 coward puffs himself once again to appear strong

Democrats are still putting forward their best and brightest. Republicans, not so much.

Josh Hawley looks to be reinstating the Geneva Theocracy under John Calvin

rush hallway

The majority report with emma and the occasional word from Sam (if he can get through a clip without an emma pause)

Ughhh and what a bastardized reference to Augustine who wasn’t a nationalist in any form

run away

Lol, dude thinks the Nazis weren't predominantly Christian BTW Sam, "cache" sounds like "cash". One syllable

Sam, maybe read more about how the lands were taken from the indigenous peoples. It was mostly the age old sin of greed and not generally in the name of religion when the largest portions of the country were taken.

This person clearly has never read the Bible

I agree with Orwell on nationalism (offensive project) vs. patriotism (defensive project). The way I've described it is nationalism is not synonymous with patriotism while it has historically been synonymous with fascism. The christian nationalist movement is also tied to the white nationalist movement so closely that the Venn diagram of the two would be one large christian nationalist circle with a 5% smaller white supremacist circle within it.

Jesus Christ would be rolling over in his grave, if he had a grave, at Josh Holly envoking his name.