So what you’re saying is most of the villagers don’t have or use protection?

You will never, ever, see protection again while cycling through trades.

​@@coalmine9666 So what you're saying is most of the villagers don't have or use protection?

​@@BeanTownStevoNo they removed it from villager trading

@@BeanTownStevo You will never, ever, see protection again while cycling through trades.

What's this? Actually useful suggestions which improve the game and which even make sense for a wandering trader to have? This would be thrown right out!

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I like the idea of the maps to other villages and armor trim stuff, but I think the other maps should be given to cartographers, not wandering traders.

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This is genious EXCEPT, ancient cities and trail ruins are lost to time, how would that man know the paces to them

Yes

Can't you just stagger the book combinations like usual? Two books together just makes it a tier 2 for the increasing costs, two tier 2s make it tier 3, just pyramid them up like normal using a good initial enchantment off the table.

Yep, they moved the RNG from being a one time thing (finding the villager trade) to every single tool. As someone who likes to have a backup of tools (shulker of each) this would be the worst, I just hope it doesn’t change villagers retroactively.

I personally love the changes and think Mojang is up to something. With a bit of work and balancing I think this is a great change.

Bro wrote a whole story lmao

@@Call8129 It's a topic that will heavily impact the vanilla survival gameplay experience (which is what I mostly play) and I have a lot of thoughts about it.

​@@Call8129Wrote a whole story about how rare the biomes are which isn't entirely true.

-Can't you combine the books into one, and that one book only costs 1 level to apply to the equipment?- edit: nvm

@@noimnotgoingtoenteraname no. The cost carries over from all books. You can cleverly combine them to 1 book, but will be very expensive

@@noimnotgoingtoenteraname no combining the books makes it even more expensive to apply to tools

​@Eufamis Hopefully they have Ssundee's Cactus EXP farm prepared..... cause that's gonna take a while.....

Good. Me and all the older minecraft players have hated the current minecraft 'late-game' as it completely kills creativity. You shouldn't be able to make perfect items and should be forced to think about decisions you make.

What effort? Trading with a villager for 5 minutes and a hand full of trash items? That clearly doesn't compare to the time needed to farm 30 levels of xp and have good luck enchanting.

Noob

@@tr7zw finding a villager, moving that villager to the correct biome will take MUCH MUCH longer which directly depends on where you are and how far the biomes are. Vs building a mob farm, spending like 20-30 mins to get to level 30 and only needing 1 min to get back to 30 after doing a level 30 enchant. So it is a level 30 enchant every minute after the initial 20-30 mins. *Max level multi enchants* Now for villagers, moving them will be very painful, you may not have a biome near you and make take anywhere from 10-30 mins to find the biome you want, then even longer to find a village and if its a biome that doesnt have a village then tough luck, spend an hour boating to the biome or spend a hour making some rail track or whatever and all of that for a not even max level book, which you have to go far to get. You tell me which is more effort. Oh almost forgot, the build time for that railway system (because using a boat would be ridiculously long to bring everything to a central location after moving them) plus the time it takes to get enough materials for that build. Meanwhile you can make an xp farm with cobble, or after a while building a nether gold and exp spawn, which will get you to level 30 in under a minute.

Maxing villagers is not hard jeez people stop being such crybabies

@@memor22 yeah maxing isn't hard, finding one then moving one (or multiple) hundreds or thousands of blocks just for a trade afterwards moving em back is(and if you don't move them back you'll have to travel that distance every time). And the trade isn't even max level. That's just a tiny little bit harder

I agree, the way they did the change is questionable, but I will be able to deal with using enchanting tables and anvils if they remove the “too expensive” mechanic from anvils.

@@mrtroll7849 This. The idiotic anvil mechanics need to go before they even attempt something like this. Things like boots are already nearly impossible to get all 7 enchants on in some cases, and with top tier books being low level now, likely impossible in some skyblock maps & servers. It should never be cheaper to apply a Soul Speed III book with a work penalty of 3 than it is one with no work penalty. The whole system is just broken as heck currently.

@@mrtroll7849 A long time ago I went into creative mode and gave myself thousands of levels. I was not happy when it still said "too expensive."

I saw one person suggest making enchantment tables like a tech tree, and to that I 100% agree

They really gotta fix anvils. There's no reason the cost should go up after uses

I personally think that's the direction they're going for. I think Fishing Rod enchantments will come to Fishermen.

See THAT would have been a great improvement!

Cherry forest villages too?

@@semajniomet981 those don't need to exist, the biome is very rare anyway so it'd be sad to encounter it just to find another generic village there.

I want them to add those villages considering the fact that we already have the villager outfits for jungle and swamps

@@RealDJB very rare? I find them pretty often

@@DarkosaDarkRave I don't actually know _how_ rare they are, but I've only encountered a Cherry Forest like twice. Not that I have much room to talk, I don't explore :/

Cosigning. This is great. It encourages building, creativity, exploration, and treating villagers like human beings.

Super dope idea Imagine how cool itd be to have your trading hall and its like a huge market street of specialist buildings You could even have it so that master traders can be upgraded, so you can get a prot 3 villager when youre still early game, then build up his library to get prot 4 when you have more resources. Maybe even have different max levels depending on biome, so the desert librarian can upgrade further with a larger library for efficiency 5?

probably too much code/work this is still good

@@hafplace1346 yea way too much code. Mojang programmers only write one line every week

Great idea

Exactly people are acting like this is not gonna be changed at all

Shouldn’t implement this horrible change, hopefully they don’t

Good it should be scrapped. It’s a cool feature but it should be made for it to be not impossible to get enchantments in other biomes, just unlikely. I don’t like the idea of being forced to go set up villagers in other biomes rather than play the game normally without this feature at all

@@NorthernLaw_it’ll be a go to mod to change this if it goes into the game this harshly

@@roguewasbanned4746 Oh yeah for sure, will be downloading it

All they'd need to do is make the guaranteed enchantments when becoming master in a specific biome be the *ONLY CHANGE* - and everybody wouldn't mind. Keep the odds of all other enchantments sure - but allow players to guarantee that mending if they get to a swamp, or guarantee that frost walker if they get to a snow biome. *THAT* is fine. But jesus christ, this is awful.

@@masterkevkev Or let the biome influence the books, but not control them. Like allowing villagers to maintain their trading pool, but making prot and punch 30% more likely in plains, and fire prot and smite 30% less likely. Sort of how Mesa biomes have more gold than other biomes, you can make regional villagers more likely to give one enchantment book than another. This would be a somewhat fair compromise and would have the benefit of more controlled trades, while still maintaining the full trade pool.

It could literally be as simple as repurposing the Book and Quill/Written Book items, to allow players to write the enchantment they want the villager to learn at Master Level, trading it to them to lock it in, and then just needing to reach Master Level to unlock it.

The main goal here is to encourage players to settle in more than one place!

Anything is gonna seem tedious compared to the current broken method

They want people to travel more, explore more biomes and that

@@Helveteshit except there’s nothing to travel for there’s just empty space everywhere what they need to do is add more structures and things to find that would make people want to travel more

thats the entire point of survival games as a whole

@@Helveteshit there’s NO JUNGLE/SWAMP VILLAGES. So why force players to drag villagers to either biome just for specific trades?

@@patricksocha6930makes it harder to get

Maybe if the books bought from villagers have to still go into the enchantment table with the item like you said. The book will be titled with stuff like “maybe protection, maybe mending” and then the accuracy of what book you bought gets better depending on what level villager you have. You then spend levels with that book in the enchanting table trying to get a high level enchantment on the book’s possibilities

Basically a disenchantment table.

That's a good compromise. "You want mending? Make a Mangrove Lecturn!"

This is a decent idea

And this would make decorating better. I tried to make a cherry wood home for a villager. And the oak lectern ruins it.

Eh it wouldn’t be a good idea, or something like that idk

@@QuantumPurple Why, it does what the devs want make you explore to the biomes, but allow you to keep your base without having travel several thousand blocks to an ice/desert biome that isn't common. The idea alone of needing to not only have a villager in a specific biome but then have to level them up to master is asinine at best. This idea at least allows you to keep the pain staking process of leveling them up, able to be done close to your base and done several at once rather than making mini bases.

you have to consider, this is mojang we are talking about, they have been more questionable in their judgment of what is best for the game in the last few years, than my senile grandmother trying to figure out how to hook up a gas stove that she knows nothing about! if something is a bad idea, mojang will seriously consider doing it even if most of the player base begs them not to

@@bugsmith9751case in point the sniffer lol

@@thomasmcgovern3984bro we voted for it

​@@thomasmcgovern3984also when they removed the crafting recipe for saddles when they added horses in 1.6

@@thomasmcgovern3984and yet, it was still the best option for the mob vote. I think that part is way more depressing than the sniffer itself.

Thats the whole point that the jungle and swamp villagers have mending and unbreaking, and at this point with the current mechanics they will probably never ever add them

nope, this pretty much kills any chance of them being added actually, since mending a unbreaking were purposefully put in the biomes where villages dont spawn to make them "harder to get" (actually just more annoying than anything)

Unless the jungle and swamp villages are extremely rare to spawn. That would still make them hard to find without outside assistance(seed maps) while making the villages still a thing. In other words, the challenge to get the villagers can still be difficult, but jungle and swamp villages can exist.

@@Tohkiewhy would it be by design to carry villagers with a wooden boat across land to get to a swamp or jungle? That can't be the intention lmao

@@ordinary_ if you read the snapshot changelog, the image the official team provided says that there there are no villages which spawn in those biomes, meaning that in the next update at least (probably forever), there will be no jungle or swamp villages

Nah I really like it. All I ever need is a villager for efficiency, mending, unbreaking, and protection. Now I have a super easy way to guaranteed get those, I just need to go to a couple villages and do some trading. No more cycling for hours on end. I love this change

I'm sorry but like you've had to cycle for hours like legit I've never seen someone do tbat

Ive cycled for hours @@MrBadWifi

@@greengargoyle4660it will take way longer to find a swamp then roll mending 9 times out of 10

@@greengargoyle4660 you’re completely wrong on this

I'm pretty sure a villager has to be born in the correct biome if you want specific trades. once a villager is born it has the corresponding skin which doesn't change when you move it to a different biome. if you want mending you need a village or a breeder in a swamp biome and it will only sell the specific books. but not the max level bc that would be "op"

Collecting all of them, is just not gonna be a viable option

@@mrclancymac1too much effort and you still cant get the max level enchants 😕

I hope they don't go back. The old system clearly was too overpowered and game-breaking.

​@@tr7zwbad opinion is bad^

​@tr7zw yeah it was but this makes it semi useless, especially when stuff like mending is locked behind villagers you can't find while traveling.

​​@@tr7zwdude, it is a sandbox game. Wdym overpowered? It's not call of duty for gods sake, it was perfectly fine that you had to spend a pretty big amount of time doing boring task to get enchantment u r looking for. Now they are mostly pointless and u better off looting end cities. U don't even get max lvl enchant for MAXING OUT villager. Dumbest decision they ever made

​@@tr7zwmaybe don't go back but this is not the way to make the system better

Yes that is one of my favourite aspects also so this is upsetting

Think in protest to mojang im going to purposly join the raids and kill all villagers in every village i come across.

Wow, people like this really exist. I would personslywould rather Mine and Craft on game called minecraft, but what do I know?

@@ukyoize Literally what is stopping you from doing that? You can choose to not interact with the existing trade system if you want to. These changes do nothing but make the system more tedious and limiting. Removing options in a sandbox game will ALWAYS be a negative.

This is an experimental change in Mojang is looking for feedback, they do want to change how librarians work and I think they're going for the negotiation method, make an absolutely terrible offer and then meet the community somewhere in the middle between the way it currently is, and they're horrible offer

Well not really, you could cure naturally spawning zombie villager, or you could infect 2 villager and then transport them, transporting zombie villager is much easier than transporting villager as zombies follow you

Well not really, you could cure naturally spawning zombie villager, or you could infect 2 villager and then transport them, transporting zombie villager is much easier than transporting villager as zombies follow you

hero of the village always has been useless other than decrease in price so maybe.

​@@korridorr my theory is, since we aren't getting 1 Emerald trades anymore they want us to use Hero of the Village buff to get more discounts i think 🤔

​@@sunneater That's possible, but I don't think that's their plan with this. I think this is just them forcing players to explore more. Minecraft is the most sandbox of sandbox games, in my opinion, so literally forcing your player base to explore their worlds is going backwards. They are going about the exploration stuff all wrong. Instead of nerfing the everliving hell out of villager trading, they just need to make the biomes more interesting. (Birch forests, cough cough) Like adding more structures with loot, more mobs, better sound design and interesting effects per biome, or even another dimension. That stuff would actually ENCOURAGE players to explore, but with this they are forcing it upon us, not encouraging it. Honestly, I won't be surprised if every PC player just keeps their version to the previous one before this update, until Mojang changes it back or at least doesn't nerf it as hard. I certainly would if I was on PC.

@@assassingod2004 No matter how interesting the biomes are, if there is no gameplay advantage to exploring, few players will bother to do so except maybe the first time, as farming villagers or using other methods of cheese to obtain materials is that much easier, more efficient and less tedious. The gameplay balance in the game has been completely broken for a good while now and Mojang is finally taking steps to address the issue, much to the disappointment of players who have taken these cheese strats for granted. I wouldn't be surprised if they roll it back because of all of this backlash (as with the zombie pigman bug fix years ago)

Your average badlands biome could be as far as 8,000 blocks away, with mycelium biomes probably being a whole lot more. There would be even more backlash if those biomes got exclusive enchantments.

Only if you are lucky enough to have a village right next to your swamp biome, and have both nearby to your spawn/house. If, however, your village and swamp are even moderately remote from each other, it will just be an incredibly tedious process.

@@galehunter2519I mean swamps are the same way. If you get a really hot or cold seed you might have to go 10k blocks to find one

They're still looking for feedback, so they could very well include this in a future snapshot; mending is an extremely OP and endgame feature, the fact you can get it from a carrot farm without having even punched a tree is ridiculous

@@theonebman7581 That is true, the current system is fairly OP in that sense, I look forward to seeing what Mojang decide to do in the long term with this feature, although I think maybe randomising the enchants to each biome (as there are not many biome specific enchants) could add more of an adventure element to the game as if you know that the enchant is in a specific biome, its not too hard to get there.

I kinda hate the current enchanting system. Constantly grinding to level 30 and hoping u get any good enchants on ur gear is annoying, but having librarians with good enchants made this not so bad. After this nerf, it's gonna be harder to get any good gear

The fact that it isn't even max level really is the salt on the wound.

I'd be slightly less annoyed if this were the case. Though I'd still find it incredibly frustrating that the process for obtaining mending now includes transporting *two* villagers to a swamp biome from god knows how far away and breeding them, then transporting them back, which is not more difficult or challenging or fun, it's quite simply many times more tedious than cycling a lectern a few times. It would be more ok if all enchantments were obtainable in a biome where you can actually *find* a village, since then all you'd need to do is explore. It might take longer than cycling lecterns, but at least it should be a bit more fun.

just buy 2 lol

@@penyu1913 You'd have to buy 4 Eff 3 books to combine them to Eff 5 (per tool) and then have to deal with the bs that is the anvil system... This change is not the way to go.

@@thebuddercweeper Actually, it wouldn't even be possible to get Mending from trading. Mending is sold by swamp villagers, and swamp villages don't spawn. You can't even breed swamp villagers (unless they're added via command or Spawn Egg) in Java Edition because villagers inherit the biome gear that their parents came from, and not from the local environment when they spawn in.

how? move a single villager over, plop down a bed and a workstation, boom, village. If you bring a couple and breed them you even got a good chance for the baby to have the fancy biome attire.

@@gamingnsciencethat’s true but it’ll be a plus if they add cool lookin villages based on the biomes villagers don’t spawn in

@@kirbs_3378 it remains to be seen, if that happens. The way they phrased it in the snapshot release notes is, that players have to build those villagers on their own. I know, shocking. in a building game...

they'll probably add jungle and swamp villages in 1.21. this change is experimental for a reason, aren't necessarily gonna add it in the next 1.20 patch. it can be added whenever they feel like it's ready

@@quidproque76 I have never seen a world that didn’t have a village a few hundred blocks away from any area somewhere. Add some nether fast travel and it really shouldn’t be that bad. Transport them over the roof if you want easy mode. Alternatively go look for a cave in the area, chances are not bad you’ll find a zombie villager you can catch and cure instead.

yes plz do not do this to us

is really mending and other max level enchantments really necesary to the average player? from my perspective those things (and the consecuences like mega bases) are a distraction to the real enyoiment of the game to this type of player, this is one of the reasons people get bored of minecraft so easily

They also better make swamp and jungle villages otherwise it’ll be even more upsetting.

Yes indeed the game is wanting players to build and make transportation and use minecarts and play more with the things that are in the game if they want to get god tier setups for the enchantments Is also about exploring and finding the biomes

You do understand enchantment tables still work right? You don’t need an automatic enchantment generator farm lol

@@LoganNagol Enchantment tables are far more RNG-based. You can only see one of the enchantments you'll get at any given time, and they're rarely max level. Villagers gave a stable, repeatable way to get max level enchantments. Once you got the trade once, you could repeat it to put on all of your gear. With this change, you can't just lock in efficiency 5 to put on all of your tools anymore. Maxing out gear is going to be way more tedious now, as the lower levels that the villagers give make it just plain no longer possible to do all of the enchanting in the anvil with their books. And, perhaps the most important point, _you cannot get mending from an enchantment table._

Maybe they should finally give us chains to combine a powered minecart and normal minecarts to a train. I got a mod for this. But this should be in the game!

increasing the village amount is a good call, but i think doubling it is a bit absurd. maybe like 15% more would do the trick imo.

I 100% agree. All the hate in the other comments here is unwarranted. This is a tentative change that they clearly thought a lot about and ultimately isn't a huge deal in the end anyway. I really think it's for the best, but even if I disliked it I wouldn't think it was a huge deal

⁠@@greengargoyle4660no it’s not. A good change is one that the whole community isn’t debating on whether it’s good or not. All this is doing is splitting up the player base. Personally I’m not going to bother playing the update if that change goes through.

@@mightypharaoh7586 so the abolition of slavery in america was not a good change?

@@ripizhonubi7472 do you actually want to start this debate?

@@shigekazusan3103 not really, i don't event know what the debate would be about

Do you want him to trade you an elytra or something? Think about it for a bit, he's now a consistent source of invis potions(very useful against creepers and phantoms) rare logs, and potion ingredients. Plus now even if you don't have emerald on you, you can trade to get said emeralds.

⁠@@ShayanQ an emerald for 8 logs, as if you can build a lot with that. Ah yes, 3 emeralds for a single coral block. Now you can build to your heart’s content. And from what it seems to trade for emeralds is extremely situational items that you most likely won’t have on hand. Water or milk buckets… a hay bale… infested spider eye…. This is extremely stupid and unless you carry ender chests that have emeralds in them you can practically never trade for usable amounts of items. And what even is it with them needing emeralds involved in trades? Why not trade oak logs for dark oak logs???

I kinda need the saplings to get new trees(cherry) in my outdated skyblock world

​@@MossyMohtDo you just talk for the sake of talking?

It would be cool if he had hoppers or something

the mini-biome thing is smart asf. terraria did it well, but i feel like it would be harder to implement it into minecraft. trees might be the perfect way to do this. maybe the game can count for a certain number of tree-grown leaves and changes the area around them accordingly

Sadly, I feel like this makes swamp and jungle villages even less likelly. The whole point of puting the most desireable enchantments there is to make them harder to get. The only way I can see them get implemented now is if they're super rare.

we are talking about mojang, if they have it their way, they would keep this just because people hate the idea of it

​@@bugsmith9751 True, though i feel like this would be a proper way into killing their own game.

@@Glizzywatterit certainly would. This has gone unchanged for like 6-7 years. Mojang really needs to consider just how many servers like skyblock/super flat SMP’s and challenge servers rely on this trading system to have progression and economies. They will destroy the balance of thousands of servers if they remove this, and they need to be made aware of that before they collapse their player base.

@@Syntex366 And besids its a sandbox game i really dont need a balance if i find something to op i will just not use it, though this comes all from a singleplayer side i have no idea what such changes would mean for pvp servers.

still easy to get netherite armor, especially since its easy to find the plating from treasures

Exactly. It's like they're making the game for crazy youtubers and not the average player

Lmao then maybe just don't get the best possible armor? Why do you need it so much anyway? They are nerfing a clearly op feature but y'all of course just want everything the easy way.

​@@temporarynickname tell me how long you think it takes to get the best possible armor and explain to me how it is "the easy way"

@@deamonsead nah

Maybe even a datapack

It'll probably be integrated into the easy villagers mod

But in other words the hell with us bedrock players on console, we're just frîçkêd anyway we go eh?

Bedrock players are always second-fiddle, Mojang just doesn't want you guys to know that. You'll always have microtransactions, you'll always have shittier redstone, you'll always have worse graphics, and Mojang does. not. care.

@@CleetusGlobin um. Just for your own knowledge maybe you should go look at the sales difference between the two and the amount of people playing each version. You'll be surprised to find that there are twice as many copies of the bedrock version sold than Java and at least three times more bedrock players than Java. They've said it many times bedrock is their top priority over java development time and time again.

True

lol!

mojang employees really going "hmm people dont like exploring, so I'm going to force them to explore to get better enchantments and use the already tedious villager trading system and then also still make it 1 below max, and not just make biomes more interesting"

I think they’re onto something tbh. The enchanted book slog is really lame, and I personally feel like changing the way the book trades work can make it more interesting imo. My only issue is that there isn’t a way to get some low-level enchanted books that are only that enchantment (except for getting lucky with the enchantment table) and as a Book Collector that’s a bit sad for me

@@toasterduds7184 I dont think its about forcing people to explore, the mojang devs have been pretty upfront about how they don't like villager trading being a broken mechanic. Changing it in the past to make it more difficult or as you describe it "tedious". This is just an option that removes RNG as well as in my opinion, helps fix it.

"Changing the exp altogether so it isn't based on making huge mob farms" Preach. Whacking spiders for two hours is antithetical to fun. They need to buff the bottles of enchanting, and make the part of the loot table of Bastions and Ancient Cities.

I know right??? Screw this

that's all you need to be the best and it's not good enough. you need to work harder than that to be the best, better than everyone. anyone will build a trading hall

@@hafplace1346 It's not making the game HARDER, it's making it more TEDIOUS. Making the game harder would make it more based on skill, rather than getting good RNG and doing repetitive tasks over and over and over. Not everyone who plays Minecraft has 15 hours a day to build a simple trading hall for themselves/friends.

@@justafoon well it requires more skill to use/get an elytra and find villages to trade there, minecraft is a sandbox game so there's multiple ways to do something like get enchantments, you don't need to spread out you villigers, trade and line them like cattle, you can just explore villages and trade or even just use an anvil, grindstone and enchanting table as intended

@@hafplace1346 shut the freak up, nobody cares. Who is gonna spread out rather than have everything they need in a single area? Try convincing the whole Minecraft community of your opinion, see how far that get. And in what world does it take more SKILL to sit on your ass and grind for hours to get the four same things everyone else has?

Why would it need a nerf? Genuinely im curious, because you dont have to use it ifyou dont want to, do you speedrun the game in an official tournament or smth?

@@saltworth2570 I do think that villagers are a good feature but they almost completely undermine the enchanting table and its functions

​@@danielsimmerman2723 Now, you have to use enchanting tables if you want max enchants. But enchanting tables are just tedious. For villagers, once you've got an enchantment locked, you don't need to go through that tedious work again. For enchanting tables, if you want multiple books to put on your tools, you have to keep cycling for the same books 3+ times.

​@danielsimmerman2723 whilst I agree it does make the enchanting table a little redundant, you can at least reroll enchantments with the table and a grindstone to get an enchantment you want, if you don't have the book for it. It also doesn't increase the cost of adding books to the enchanted gear, meaning that if you get a lucky table enchantment, you can put books on it with no extra cost

In my opinion villagers are fine as is, all enchants are usefull for is getting armor and tools and the point of minecraft isn't just to get max gear, its to build cool things and if you want to do that in any timly manner you are going to want to have dome decent armor so you dont get blown up by a creeper and some good tools so that you can gather stuff to build with, making those things harder to get just makes the game less fun to play as it takes longer to get to the fun part of the game.

If they do go forward with this villager trades, they'll probably make new village specific to more biomes. I do believe this is an experimental thing

Except jungle and swamp. You have to manually drag a villager there for their trades.

​@@patricksocha6930ok? So now we're a wizard with ancient arcane knowledge long lost to time. The villager is completely confused the whole time and so a pain to take on the trek. But when you finally get there it all makes sense to them and they understand a calling they never had before. Then you can either leave them there content with their purpose...or then drag them back somewhere else again, causing them to be a pain again because you are separating them from their newfound passion. I know change is difficult. But this is objectively a better, healthier mechanic for the game than how it was. More in line with the vision of what minecraft is.

@@himan12345678 no it’s a much more tedious process of getting specific enchanting books than we already had. You can add your own BS backstory and lore to cope with the change and I understand they’re trying to get people exploring more but instead of adding interesting and unique things they’re changing mechanics in order to FORCE us to explore instead of ENTICING us to explore. TLDR: Copium for making things more tedious than it already is.

@@patricksocha6930 you don't know that, they might add jungle and swamp villages in the future. this change experimental, it isn't planned for any update. it could be years before it's actually implemented, and by then, we'll probably have those new villages

@@duckified. Jardon literally said it’s for 1.20.2 🤦‍♂️ pay attention. If they DO intend to implement jungle and swamp villages then cool but I don’t see that happening in a small little update like 1.20.2.

Emerald trades were a bit OP, as is. And even if you didn't cure villagers, you could still make an effective farm for emeralds. They haven't changed that, to my sight. But certainly, getting enchantments are a bit difficult, but in my opinion, it ain't a big deal.

I think it a nice incentive to go out to other biomes and build some stuff.

@@Helveteshituntil you want mending and have to drag a villager to an out of the way swamp.

@@GlobBlubbSpending 30 hours finding all the biomes then carrying the most uncarryable mob in the game is so much fun

@@GlobBlubb yeah but i feel like if they wanted that they can literally just make biomes more interesting. Make custom dungeons for each biome with chest loot that has a lot of powerful enchanted books. dungeons have been needing an update anyway and this would be genuinely fun. but have to transport villagers long distances really isnt.

it doesn’t encourage, it’s more like having to go out to get the books you want. if they wanted us to explore then they should js add structures, not some villager nerf

finally someone who is open to this change

This. It's honestly one of my least favourite things to do in Minecraft. I like to explore, but the amount of time I spend just travelling thousands of blocks, to find a single specific biome is just too much.

That would actually be kinda sick, especially if they made it so you could actually get better enchants then what you can on the enchantment table. And just make them completely random enchants with the better it is the more rare it is. Like imagine exploring for weeks and then finally stumbling across some Power 7, flame 5, infinity bow. With the theoretical max being all possible enchantments level 10, but it only appears once in the entire seed so it would be statically impossible to ever get that. It would kinda be cool because it would mean you could never really achieve full max gear, meaning there would always be a reason to keep exploring. Like right now, if you are a player who really enjoys getting better items and leveling up your stuff, once you get the max gear its pretty easy to lose motivation. This would kinda eliminate the idea of "max gear" meaning you cant just "beat" that aspect of the game. Which is how minecraft should be, open ended

@@LoganNagol Or imagine more diverse tools from different materials that have different benefits. One is easier to enchant magically, the other one can have a higher level of sharpness or one is better to mine deepslate, aso. Make tool choices matter again. So many possibilitys. I have high hopes that Hytale will completly make Minecraft obsolete if they manage to include actually working RPG elements. Minecraft fails to innovate but has so many possibilitys

How is exploration tedious but breaking and replacing a block over and over for four hours not tedious? You guys are insane.

​​@@phoenixcraft9940I think minecraft was not the game for you to begin with😅

@@phoenixcraft9940 I would rather gamble than build 7 bases for one purpose. Not an issue for me because I planned on doing so anyways, this just solidifies my plans But I would say you are the insane one.

​@phoenixcraft9940 because they are forcing us to explore, or rather to forcing us to use chunkbase to find the biomes we need, if they're going this route we need a way to change what biome the chunk is in. And also remove the anvil penalty you get when you use it.

@@DisparaErvilha7387 No they aren't. You can still use an enchanting table.

It's not about exploring though. It's about doing whatever you want to and they've been forcing us down a funnel to play it the way they want us to

The problem is, exploring doesn’t really become more enticing just because the alternatives are bad. It just makes a game unplayable. What they really need to do to fix this is add a better way to travel, more focused travel (something like nature’s compass), or just make the base world more fun and interesting to run through. As is, you either use chunkbase and know where anything and everything is, or you don’t and have no clue where anything is. Certain biomes are common to be 5k+ blocks away, and you still have to get lucky and guess the right direction. It can take hours just to find the biome you need, and then it might not even be big enough, or it doesn’t have all the unique resources there (looking at you, tiny jungle biome without melons or bamboo).

dozens? try 100s of thousands

I hope you stop playing this game.

i'd rather just have to travel to a different biome to get a guaranteed enchantment rather than rerolling a lectern 500 times to get a single book from a massive pool of enchantments. the change is good, cope

@@duckified. good luck transporting ur villagers 1000s of blocks to get certain enchants lmao, not all of the biomes needed have pre-existing villages in them, also since the enchants u get arent max lvl anymore, u cant even max certain items anymore since even if u combine in the most efficient way since the anvil is gonna "too expensive" on yo ass. this change is dogshit if it goes through entirely the way it is right now, but if they change certain things like being able to atleast get max enchnat lvls it would be a little better.

@@ukyoize I hope you stop playing the game because its people like you ruining it for everyone

Villagers keep their biome skins forever, same with trades once you’ve traded with them. But yeah I see your point; this will also kill all skyblock maps that aren’t custom saves with all those tiny artificial biomes edited in; and even then I’ll keep mine on 1.20.1, I’m not herding zombie villagers around in just iron gear into extremely tiny squares for a trading farm.

Yeah i think you are onto something about them adding in some way to get better then the current max but have it be super hard or rare. Maybe enchantment tables can only go to the current max but you could potentially find higher enchants at villages. And the higher the level and the more enchantments, the more rare it is. With the theoretical max being level 10 with every enchant. But make that so rare it only appears once on any given seed at a completely random location (so virtually impossible anyone ever naturally finds one, making it like a myth) Just imagine exploring for weeks and then finally stumbling across some Power 7, Unbreaking 6, Flame 4, infinity bow. It would also make your items really feel unique since pretty much everyone would have different types and levels of enchantments And it would kinda be cool because it would mean you could never really achieve full max gear, meaning there would always be a reason to keep exploring. Because right now, if you are a player who really enjoys getting better items and leveling up your stuff, once you get the max gear its pretty easy to lose motivation. This would kinda eliminate the idea of "max gear" meaning you cant just "beat" that aspect of the game. Which is how minecraft should be, open ended

this update makes it feel your good at the game for you max armour that can let you swim in lava for a long time with no fire res. you would actually have to put effort into it unlike cycling trades, cure the villiger multiple times and repeat

Not just every village type, but also a couple that don't exist! (swamp and jungle have to be created manually)

They should stick to adding things to the game not make the game worse.

@@saltworth2570 >They should stick to adding things to the game not make the game worse. Isnt this *exactly* what people are bitching about, how they keep adding new items and mechanics that *dont* affect old content?

@@higueraft571 havent seeen anyone bitch about that so far, its always been people begging for more mobs, more biomes, more ores, more enchants, more potions etc..

@@saltworth2570 Yeah, it's either "Mojang are fucking lazy, c'mon do something" or "please god stop adding stuff that doesnt affect the gameplay and doesnt interact with/change old systems", from what i've seen. Personally, i'm more on the "fix anvils and performance, and that's about it, MAYBE an End Update" side?

literally makes high level gear more exclusive. it rewards hard work, exploration and building.

You don't just spawn into a world and within an hour have a good villager trading hall, it takes time and plenty of resources you most likely have to go gather or find.

@@deopping a "good trading hall" sometimes is overkill, why do that much if i can only reroll a villager to get mending? yeah sure it would be expensive, but it's not like emerald are that rare

@@ripizhonubi7472 so making that system harder and more bare is the solution?

@@deopping i don't understand your point, what did you mean in your first comments? because while yeah it hurts to those who want to build the perfect trading hall, i would not call it "something most people fail to realize"

@@deopping also what you mean with bare? sorry i don't speak english fluently i don't really know what that word means in this context as for making the system harder, yeah, but also as many other people i want mojang to buff anvils and enchanting tables. it just happens that i like the direction of this change

maybe they should buff anvils/reduce prior work penalties

Didnt they say they wont add furniture bcs they want players or be creative and actually play the game they want to play it, so why nerf people who dont want to build random farms in order to use others, why feel the need to shit on players who use the option of librarian farms when if you think its op you can just not use it.

"The only players who will be affected are those who can't build an emerald farm" so most players then? I think Mojang and some other people forget that the majority of players aren't sweating out playing Minecraft as a full time job, but are rather playing casually and trying to chill out while doing it. Mojang seems to only implement changes for the type of player who plays long sessions, and can pour hundreds of hours into a survival world, and is really nerdy about game mechanics etc. The irony is even those players ignore most new mechanics because the drawbacks and input just often isn't worth the reward

existing trading halls probably won't be broken if i had to guess. i don't think they could just completely change an existing villager's trade list

three ways i could see this system working out perfectly: one: they remove the repair/enchant limit two: they make villagers follow you when you hold something they're willing to buy so it's easier to transport them from other villages directly to your base three: they add swamp and jungle villages i feel like i can handle having to find different biome villages, but i really don't want to have to transport two villagers to a swamp just to get a mending villager

You could actually beat the game on peaceful with that change

I'm worried that this makes more villages being added less likely. The whole point of puting mending in the swamp is to make it hard to get. Even of they do add more villages, the swamp and jungle ones will most likelly be quite rare.

Pretty sure so many more people would be pissed if they removed rerolling trades instead lol.

It got annoying really fast.

It gives me the "when I was a kid I was poor" running joke from Markiplier

That was also exactly my point! Being okay with the enchantment trades depending on biomes, but I dislike that the trades have no maximized level enchantment, which really sucks for anvils and experience

They can just not use the farm if its too op and easy for them.

​@@saltworth2570"just don't use iy" is a bad argument

@@ukyoize Is it though? Minecraft is a sandbox game so you can play however you want. If you want a challenge, play on hardcore, don't use totems etc. If you want your playthrough to be as tedious as possible, don't use any enchantments, only use wooden tools, only eat potatoes etc.

why hate it it's what minecraft needed, may not be what you wanted. and how is better wandering villiger trades and more diamonds not good

​@@hafplace1346 I agree that villager trading needed some rebalancing but this nerfing is so harsh it makes trading basically worthless. No-one will ever have enough emeralds to trade basically anything at the steep prices without curing or another way of obtaining emeralds, and raid farms are hardly accessible to your average player so that's not an answer. The thing I liked most about the trades as they are before this snapshot is getting certain materials renewably rather than having to devastate biomes, like deserts for glass for example. And even the different stone types - I'm not worried about destroying biomes in that case, but obtaining large amounts of andesite is going to be such a grind without trading. I don't enjoy grinding, I play games for fun. Trading is not fun, that is a problem which needs addressing, but this is not the right fix because it just makes it harder and more boring and more time consuming. I'd need great tools for all the grinding I'll now have to do, but they've made that much harder to get now too. Maybe it's right to be hard to get the top end pick (rebalancing required), but having to drag villagers from biome to biome and finding emeralds by mining or raid farming, and even then not getting the top end enchants isn't the "harder" Minecraft needed. Alternatively you use an enchanting table, but that's randomised and costs levels so getting the enchants you want that way just moves the grind and time waste to the XP farm. My next reason is personal rather than general, but a good portion of why I dislike this change, and one I think a lot of people will have in common with me - I have a pretty cool trading hall. It's one of my biggest builds in my world, is all underwater (my base is underwater for the extra challenge) and as automatic as I could make it from villager breeding, through curing to trading. The build is complete but it's not yet fully populated with villagers and will become useless after this update. That's annoying. It's not always possible but I prefer updates that don't break things that were already a part of the game. More diamonds is cool, especially since armour trims need a lot of them now. A good change (although I already have more than enough diamonds in my storage at this point so doesn't really matter to me right now). Better wandering traders is good too of course, but this doesn't go far enough in improving them, they are already mocked for being useless and this change doesn't really make them that much more useful. One haybale for one emerald before locking out the trade? Waste of my time, what can I do with one emerald after these changes? Nothing. Someone else in these comments suggested adding maps to the new ruins or ancient cities - that would actually be useful additions! So yeah, the other changes are good, but don't outweigh the negatives I feel about the trading nerfs. I hope that adequately explains why I don't like this change as it stands.

@@hafplace1346 that is neither what the game needed, nor what any game needs, sure you can make a pretty powerful trading hall without leaving the biome you are in, but it was already time consuming, making people haul villagers to biomes that could he miles away from your base just for a few enchants isnt more challenging, it just makes me hate the jungle even more as for more diamonds, you will become rich in 30 minutes of swimming around a deep water cave with a few doors, diamonds are a non issue to get

​@@hafplace1346think he was referring to the villager changes

Good chance it won't since you've already traded with those villagers anyway, which locks their trades. But of course I could be wrong on that.

Nah, it's terrible because of world borders and server size. There are 70+ biomes in Minecraft now. A lot of small servers will limit a world border to 2-5k blocks. So this will make it actually impossible for smaller servers to run and get those villagers.

​@void405 the solution to your problem is to simply not limit the world border, revert the change using a data pack or use fishing and the enchantment table. Just because this update will impact a small amount of small servers that limit their borders doesn't mean that it is horrible. Remember that there are people who play singleplayer too. I doubt they have a world border limit

@@void405 "This is terrible because it won't work well for a tiny minority of servers that operate in a very not intended way" 2k blocks isn't enough space for one player unless you enjoy being as much of a shut0in in game as you are in real life.

there is no chance of getting out of 19.2 i am literally in a cycle to be in .17 to get easier diamonds, more bland world generation since it is more "flat" and just best in performance above 1.12. .18 to prepare for 1.19.2. Glad to see someone staying for a version, I was thinking I was the only one doing this.

Yep! I have just a closed server for a couple people that I've played with for years and we're not seeing anything in later versions that would convince us to start over or regenerate chunks. We wanted the build height limit and the deep dark and a small handful of mods (quark and some team abnormals stuff). If they change this it'll make grindstone and xp farms the way to go for all future enchanting except one lonely swamp mending boy that you visit once or if there's a void accident.

To each their own

You’re still safe for 1.20, the update this experimental feature MIGHT make it into us 1.20.2. So if you don’t go past 1.20.1, you’re safe.

trading halls just got too easy. you could spend 20 minutes max getting materials to build an automatic villager breeder that makes 20 villagers per hour