What happened?

@@Aires714cut short, ended on 52nd Minute for some reason

it is chalked cast after all

its not that deep

​@@donn7939It ain't but rise can be a bratty kid

A running joke maybe? Stop being a Karen

Especially for someone who hasn't done anything since getting carried by Vatira.

@@donn7939 lol my comment isn't that serious either..

Scrub literally came at the end and ended the podcast, did you miss it?

What did he say? I think I missed that part

@@hotmilkwill -Regional1 KC 4-1 HOG, Growlii tweeted out "ggs" and Vatira replied "ur lucky we even game you a game" -Whatever, harmless trash talk, Growlii responds "cheers mate thanks for the charity work" so clearly he took it well -Regional3 HOG 4-1 KC, Growlii pulls the Uno reverse and tweets "ggs @Vatira ur lucky we even gave you a game" -Vatira responds "you cant even make major dont talk", so clearly he did not take it well It's just a really embarrassing example of being a sore loser. Trash talk is fine but if you dish it out you gotta be able to take it.

@@SnakeThisLife oof yea that’s embarrassing. Thanks for the recap! :)

Nothing worse than a sensitive trash talker. But fun to see people get salty when they have such a massive ego. Hold that shit!

Also cause there’s no rules against roster moves there’s no point in sticking it out when everyone else is going to make roster moves

Yeah I agree, but that is only bad for the orgs. Not the players.

It does make for good individual stories though cause people play their old teammates all the time. Or the fact that we will have all of the old moist roster at lan individually. Personally I can still get invested in the players that way. Especially with how much shit they talk in EU

There's plenty of drama that makes it exciting in EU. I think in general the high movements of teams make it the more exciting region for me. Right now NA is mainly exciting because of how close it is for the LAN and Worlds between so many teams.

Whatever rise.

Historically, eu have almost double na’s rlcs lan victories. And the 3 people in contention for the GOAT are all from eu. Turbo, Kaydop, Monkey moon. The reason that this debate about eu being better than na, is being talked about more is because the regionals show that na is behind when it comes to eu. People who have been in the rlcs scene for a while all unanimously agree that eu is quite a lot better than na. And the top 4 in eu are the top 4 in the world. And the only team that could maybe be fourth best in the world that isn’t European, is version1, but they don’t even look better than hogan mode of you compare the two teams.

@@MattTheWaffle You are correct, I've been watching since Season 3. I use the current and previous season as an example because there is more data in a shorter period of time, and it's more recent so it's more relevant. EU do have more Grand Finals wins over NA since the start of the RLCS, and even in these covid+ seasons, EU leads in Major and World finals wins 4-2. But if we're looking at overall head to head performance of the two regions since September of 2021, they're dead even in top 8 spots and EU has a +9 in series wins. Considering there have been 63 series played in that time, that's only a 57% win rate for EU. A 57% win rate isn't exactly what I would call dominant for a region that's said to be head and shoulders better than NA. That's the point I'm trying to make. I don't care much for speculation about who could potentially beat who, but Vitality could bomb out like BDS and NRG in winter of 21-22. Version1 could win the regional this weekend and steamroll their way to the finals at the Spring Major. Literally anything can happen, and it doesn't matter to me whether I'm wrong or not, I just enjoy the competition. I just think these stats counter the arguments that people try to make in the silly NA vs EU debate, and it brings us back down to reality. That's not always the case though, some people will reject the facts and that is quite unfortunate for them. (Edit: I don't mean that in reference to you, I'm just covering my ass. I'm not saying you don't accept facts. 😂)

I feel as if most of the conversation is in regard to the trajectory of NA gameplay. While 2021-22 data is somewhat important in making any assumption about the future, Rocket League is a game that changes incredibly fast and the pros know that. That is why people like Rise are criticizing the lack of risk-taking (signing bubble players/rookies) within the NA scene as it stops teams and players from being able to progress and keep up with an e-sport that changes every month. Therefore I think it is pretty fair for pro players and casters to predict such a performance from EU this major, simply looking at the regional and major gameplay of the winter and spring split, especially with the knowledge that the game has changed a lot from even the time of the world championship. So, of course, NA not changing rosters seems like it might not be so bad right now, because the top stay at the top for a long time. However once those pros have tired out, mentally or mechanically, they haven't fostered a good enough system that continues that region's success, since they never thought to change something that works. I think most people are just saying that the "visible" difference in gameplay between EU and NA regionals this past split might be a sign of the impending failures of the NA way.

@@zap9044 It's fair to think about the long term effects of kinda gatekeeping the top teams, but that's not to say that newer or established bubble players haven't been picked up or stepped up on their own. Shopify takes on top teams, Dignitas made it to the Winter Major with two LAN rookies and Dreaz, M80 was putting in work earlier this season, Optic picked up MajicBear, GenG got Chronic, Aqua was a name floating aroubd for a long time, LJ got on SSG this season, etc. There are still newer players coming up, but perhaps not at the break-neck speed of EU. And like Joyo said, if these players are so good, then prove it. Scrims help but if you really think you're that good, then go beat some top 8 teams and make them take notice.

well now you see it right ?

52:51

Another example is AppJack and Noly picking up Chronic who was in the bottom of NA.

@@George-li1yv a perfect example

thats not what chalked is about, this is for organic and less structured conversations. just keep watching ft if that bothers you, chalked doesnt "need" to change anything

Its called chalked for a reason

@@waffle6361 Yeah, rizzo hardly ever speaks, he almost falls asleep in the middle woth his eyes open. it clearly shows in his face that he lost interest. a mediator prevents this from hapenning. Organic conversation also need structurr. Talking over one another is the least organic thing that should be a part of a PODCAST. Viewers miss points put amd also the guest might feel unwanted and let down when the host cuts you off. Everything needs a fllw no matger how "organic" you want it to be. There loterally no harm in bringing a little structure to the whole conversation.

@indraneelphukan5906 I think you missed the point of "chalked" cast. Hope that made it clear for you ☺️

@@TrulyLegitGaming If i name my podcast, SHIT CAST, so i expect people to be supportive if my podcast is shit? So their podcast is named "chalked" so the quality of listening to it should be be boiled down to it being "chalked"? Is this the level of IQ to be expected of the people who listen to this podcast? So we MUST be ok with points being overridden by their own co-host? Jesus man, try and make a valid point for it to be a discussion.

Rise was 1-1 against NA last major and was out round 1. Not impressive and not a source of trustworthy point of view. Full of himself

A full NA team hasn't won an event since Winter, they haven't won a WC with a full NA roster since S6, they have all rights to do so plus the NA pros agree with him

yet both of their teams would shit on any of the NA top 5 any day

who's laughing now ?