Rishi Sunak's latest racist dogwhistle and why kids SHOULD (not) be vaping

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Rishi Sunak's latest racist dogwhistle and why kids SHOULD (not) be vaping | Podcast #39

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Ava is away lobbying for Philip Morris so Ed and Oli are joined by comedian Olga Koch to discuss British homes for British workers, a ban on vaping for kids and whether cancel culture really exists in comedy, or anywhere else for that matter.
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@declansalisbury5698 6 ай бұрын

I'm a boring guy in my early 20s, I've never smoked or vaped. but as an engineering student, the use of lithium and plastic used for disposable vapes pisses me off, my university says it greens but sells the fucking things in the SU shop. disposable vapes should be banned as they are just waste, we need to get rid off all single use item that has a high energy recycle process. God I'm like Ed, my only vice is alcohol

@seamushogan849 6 ай бұрын

Yeah, it's so needlessly wasteful. If you want to vape rather than smoke, buy a refillable, rechargeable device. Immediate financial barrier to adolescents and a massive reduction in e-waste.

@7sevensevern 6 ай бұрын

I use them and I want them banned as I can't stop and it kills me how much stuff is wasted in these. In a few years former landfill sites will be being dug up for these things.

@ShooterNumberOne 6 ай бұрын

@@7sevensevernjust get a reusable one at least

@james-cucumber 6 ай бұрын

@@seamushogan849honestly a lot of the vapes I see kids using are the big ones that cost £10-15. A cheap pod mod is like £20 and a bottle of e liquid is £4 tops. So I’d argue refillable vapes aren’t significantly more expensive to start with, and are definitely cheaper in ongoing cost.

@rainyfeathers9148 6 ай бұрын

There goes my 'recycle' argument 😅. I didn't realise it was that serious, I actually thought they had a plan like with batteries. I'm switching to reusable, hopefully they figure something out😮‍💨

@theanimaticalmanac 6 ай бұрын

I've just gone on Ebay and bought the Mr Bean Pez dispenser that Oli was looking at.

@johnhunter9065 6 ай бұрын

I'll swap you 10 pints and some pingers for it.

@7sevensevern 6 ай бұрын

What a Tory!!!

@Pobotrol 6 ай бұрын

Easily manipulated.

@Pobotrol 6 ай бұрын

I bought a Perry The Platypus Pez dispenser from eBay once.

@MasterDeroy 6 ай бұрын

I took a loan out and got the general grievous pez. It'll pay for itself, im sure.

@freebeerishere 6 ай бұрын

0:01 intro 0:51 weekends 2:28 negativity on social media 4:44 how does it translate to stand up? 7:47 celebrity overexposure and cancel culture 11:20 comedy without context 14:01 wee specky man 15:00 oli’s non-existent nicotine addiction 16:05 PEZ 19:07 vape ban (oli’s favourite flavour is copium) 30:07 oli’s jeremy hunt marmalade origin story 32:51 the accessibility of vapes 35:41 olga’s anti smoking strat 39:08 xenophobia 49:18 PRAWN COCKTAIL!!! (guy montgomery mentioned🔥🔥🔥) POLJOE ART COMP 🎨📝

@TheCoachBombaysDriver 6 ай бұрын

Thanks. Cool to hear Tim and Guy name dropped.

@jamesthesilver 6 ай бұрын

I've never seen so much fake laughter crammed into 53 minutes

@hotmail225 6 ай бұрын

Doing god’s work

@iamndodd 6 ай бұрын

Think Ava has done something different with her hair this week

@ILikedGooglePlus 6 ай бұрын

+++

@Gph0367 6 ай бұрын

We need a massive social housing building program!

@markysgeeklab8783 6 ай бұрын

That's the best way to propetuate poverty and the idea that you will own nothing and be happy.

@Gph0367 6 ай бұрын

@@markysgeeklab8783 What on earth are you on about. Millions of people can't afford to buy there own home, and there at the mercy of the private rental market. Where people are having to pay extortionate rent. Social housing provides millions of people good quality homes at affordable rent. Also because they pay much lower rent. It gives people the opportunity to save more money for a bigger deposit if they are saving up for a house.

@mrow278 6 ай бұрын

@markysgeeklab8783 yeah because people are definitely owning more since they sold them off

@markysgeeklab8783 6 ай бұрын

@mrow278 you don't have to aim so low. You could push for policy that would allow people to own a house and increase stock (eg no 2nd home tax in Scotland on any newly built house + pushing for jobs in regional areas + a wealth tax on any land ownership via companies)

@Czechbound 6 ай бұрын

The English subtitles say "Love politics, hate nonsense ... ". That made me smile

@Patchogs 6 ай бұрын

I always heard this until he said it slowly one week. Made me laff as 90% of the pod IS nonsense...

@cainepeter 6 ай бұрын

Wait. What is it then?

@Cruelty-Torture 6 ай бұрын

@@cainepeterI always heard "Love politics, hate nonces"

@robleesejones 6 ай бұрын

Literally screaming at this at the end, Black Sheep! It's a great movie, I even watched it in NZ back in the day :)

@LimeyRedneck 6 ай бұрын

🧟‍♀️🐑🐑

@danmayberry1185 6 ай бұрын

Love Ed's 'live free or die' patriot shirt.

@m.a.b.4104 6 ай бұрын

Olga Koch! No wonder Ollie didn't shout the opening and with Ed started star struck. She is a star, I am obviously a fan and don't care if you disagree as 4:28 I am an outlying fringe crazy person.

@RedSntDK 6 ай бұрын

Wait, you're allowed to call it Pubcast again? I thought that was a legal no-no 😟

@Unknown-l1q 6 ай бұрын

PoLITX PODcast LADIes and GENTLEmeN!!!! Dumbledore said calmly.

@Chris-Longhair 6 ай бұрын

I have known quite a few people who started smoking as a child. Some of them would go round picking up ends to use to roll their own second-hand smokes. I'm in favour of banning disposables from an environmental perspective since they're so wasteful. A pod system is just cheaper and better for the planet, but the liquids and coils for them aren't as readily available because they aren't as much of a moneyspinner as disposable vapes.

@phil637 6 ай бұрын

Build Social housing!,

@felixarbable 6 ай бұрын

smoked for 19 years from 11 to 30, it was the worst thing Ive done to myself theres no way it should have been legal then and im glad its going to be illegal in future. what freedom to choose do you really have when your addicted

@GoldnDusty 6 ай бұрын

Good pod, Oli's take on vaping is whack. Vapes were explicitly pivoted to by the big tobacco firms as a way to replace the youth market approach that got them into trouble with Joe Camel's mascot, for example. Tobacco companies have always wanted to discreetly win over a youth market, and playing into that because "prohibition doesn't work" is childish. Listen, Oli can do what he likes, but banning disposable vapes from being sold is environmentally sound, and *does* provide a boon to public health.

@LeornianCyng 6 ай бұрын

The eagle on Ed’s T-shirt looks surprised lol.

@finnwain2183 6 ай бұрын

from another engineering student i feel your sentiment - millions of more useful things for the lithium and cobalt. Theres generations of people are dying for these rare earth metals - Nyama tembo kula hawezi humaliza. this is a congolese saying meaning ou never finish eating the meat of an elephant

@SamHarrisonMusic 6 ай бұрын

I think the cigarette ban idea is amazing. My Dads dying of emphysema and can barely walk to the bathroom. People who see this stuff realise the importance of protecting people from a huge and powerful lobby. There is no merit to cigarettes, unlike so many illegal drugs…

@pandemoniumgaming6344 6 ай бұрын

As one of the weirdos that comment I'll take it and its definitely true don't listen to the comments unless its nice supportive as that's worth taking

@IndaloMan 6 ай бұрын

As a teenager I went behind the bike sheds to smoke, but it tasted bad so never took it up. I wasn't subject to peer pressure because I was one of the taller boys in my year. #goodolddays

@tauirrydah3535 6 ай бұрын

When my uncle quit ciggies he spent the first week caffiene free, then he when he started quitting the week after it was easy because the caffiene hit was such a relief.

@demonprinceofkhorne 6 ай бұрын

Could someone at Joe check on Ed in a serious way? This is the second time I’ve clocked him having suicidal thoughts on the podcast and I want him to be okay

@1pauljs 6 ай бұрын

Gotta get the Dutch in to put floating homes on the Thames

@jonsmith5058 6 ай бұрын

I’m a Brit living in the Netherlands in a floating home. Its really nice, they should do it.

@sfshinz 6 ай бұрын

I’m that freak that only comments on videos I like, pretty much because I don’t waste my time watching content I don’t like. I guess I’m doing KZfaq wrong?

@andrewmcewan8081 6 ай бұрын

the vape argument at the moment is the same as alcopops in the 90s

@borandiUK 6 ай бұрын

Lithium isn't a rare earth metal. It's one of the most common metals in the earth's crust.

@TheBustedFlush1998 6 ай бұрын

True. I think the only issue is whether in the future we will be able to extract lithium as fast as we need it.

@rafaeldegiacomoaraujo8778 6 ай бұрын

Go read on the subject.

@StratsRUs 6 ай бұрын

Alkali Metal

@jakeryan6016 6 ай бұрын

My problem with vapes has always been the fruity flavors. I don't want my vices to taste of healthy fruit. I'd like to bring out a range of filthy, desperate vapes. Flavours like Unwashed Coffee Cup, Outpatient Clinic, Cocained Money and 3am Kebab.

@Vainglory14 6 ай бұрын

It's funny that Oli was that upset about the progressive increase in smoking age, considering he is legally allowed to buy cigarettes and therefore will never be impacted by the law. No one buying their cigarettes legally is impacted by the law.

@davidmatthews3093 6 ай бұрын

Oh dear, are you one of those people who are only interested in issues that affect yourself. Don’t you have any interest in society?

@Olsen4343 6 ай бұрын

Normal people can think about problems that affect others you pleb

@Vainglory14 6 ай бұрын

@@davidmatthews3093 that argument is a lot more impactful when you're talking about access to healthcare or housing, not cigs. I'd love to hear about the negative impacts on society from this policy, considering no one's contemporary rights are reduced in any way.

@bencaton1514 6 ай бұрын

To all the grown men out there that vape… that shit looks lame af

@sbor2020 6 ай бұрын

Especially whilst on an electric scooter!

@Ignozi 6 ай бұрын

Grown women as well?

@rorypuds 6 ай бұрын

I bought my first vape in 2011, it looks like a cigerette but had a blue light on the end. I would vape in clubs to purposely confuse the bouncers.

@TheRealBoylee 6 ай бұрын

Lit episode. Shoutout PolJoe comment gang. I’ve vaped for as long as the Duggfather, and nice flavours helped me get off rollies, when vapes were arguably quite shit. Disposables, however, are wasteful and awful for the environment and we should ban them. Flavours are universally enjoyed by humans, we shouldn’t ban those.

@mystic_mimi21 6 ай бұрын

How to stop children Vaping (never thought I would have to say that) get those annoying streamers and KZfaqrs to do an anti smoking campaign, get footballers etc. they blindly follow them. (I used to blindly follow what Zoella said as a 13 year old so I get it)

@dawnsims8618 6 ай бұрын

Somebody said once that San Pelegrino was Tory Fanta and honestly I thought it was pretty bang on until I saw the start of this show.

@andrewmcewan8081 6 ай бұрын

it still is

@JBryc3 6 ай бұрын

Hour long videos in a Welsh accent ? What wa at that reference

@TalkingDonkeyz 6 ай бұрын

I wanna know too

@belindablunderbus1365 6 ай бұрын

Yes, it should be legalised. It would solve myriad issues.

@JamieAlice92 6 ай бұрын

Wait a minute … that’s not Ava!

@NaaahBruv 6 ай бұрын

Guys, I fucking love this podcast, but why is it always so goddamn quiet? It's a podcast, you don't need dynamic range. I hope you're not actually paying a sound engineer to fuck it up this badly week on week.

@b62boom1 6 ай бұрын

She's a well funny lass!

@sbor2020 6 ай бұрын

Yeah, you gotta love Koch, Olga I mean!

@ericaceous1652 6 ай бұрын

4:31 KZfaq have hidden dislikes too. So one almost has to comment in order to share negative feedback with anyone other than the content uploader

@revc2010 6 ай бұрын

Hold the phone, there's a PJ badge?

@arlekeno_ 6 ай бұрын

Oli turning the studio in a opium den with his cloud of vape cancer juice, can the office just put him into the smoking box shelter from the IT crowd? Also how much are you auctioning Ed's eagle/wolf jumper off for, to fund this?

@robkryten 6 ай бұрын

No fan of the PM but could Sunak be saying that the housing being built should not be sold to people who are just going to rent them out or keep them empty as an investment? Eg not international investors?

@yesno9374 6 ай бұрын

People who think the kids who are vaping would otherwise be smoking clearly haven't been near a school recently. It's so much easier to take a puff of a vape in a corridor than light up a cigarette

@archive3339 6 ай бұрын

what happened to vapes being seen as the cringiest thing you could possibly do can we go back to those times. vapes are less bad than smoking that is why they are not banning all types of vapes they are banning ones that are most appealing to children and also happen to be the most harmful to the environment.

@archive3339 6 ай бұрын

genuinly every argument presented sounds like "im ruining my life it so everyone else should be able to as well". god it is so hard to listen to smokers talk about anything get a grip

@archive3339 6 ай бұрын

also smoking was falling in this country BEFORE vapes were introduced

@archive3339 6 ай бұрын

its so fucking cringe omg

@archive3339 6 ай бұрын

I agree with you, so im going to ignore what youve said

@enemystand2981 6 ай бұрын

Because it’s unhelpful, and vapes are a great way of diminishing harm from smoking. Also living life to just judge others and wanting things to be seen as cringy is just fucking weird. Your view on this is shockingly narrow.

@Deedumdee 6 ай бұрын

love podcast hate nonsense it's the politics Jo podcast ladies and gentlemen

@hapijoel7569 6 ай бұрын

As an ex smoker and vaper, smoking/vaping is genuinely the one thing I'm fine to be banned and Thank you Olga for the insight into the refugee input system!

@Scott_Raynor 6 ай бұрын

Why can't people do what they want with their own bodies?

@hapijoel7569 6 ай бұрын

Cos it stinks and litters the streets, and has harmed countless millions of people for hundreds of years either directly or indirectly. @@Scott_Raynor

@seanmccannwildcamping 6 ай бұрын

Ed suddenly going full prohibition is something I did not expect to see in this pubcast

@tauIrrydah 6 ай бұрын

My friend's foster kid is in hospital right now, coughing blood because he's 17 and been vaping since he was 14, his lungs are infected and if he gets covid, game effing over. No vapes.

@colecohen4581 6 ай бұрын

Was Oli talking about the film Lamb?

@slrhas 6 ай бұрын

I mean they aren't getting rid of normal vapes for those people that need it. Just getting rid of the utter landfill and waste of lithium that is disposables. Actually a very easy decision to endorse here

@andrewmcewan8081 6 ай бұрын

they r banning the flavours for the non disposable ones as well

@PhillipHilton 6 ай бұрын

Never explain, never apologise and never...never go on "I'm a celebrity..."

@thepetermullins 6 ай бұрын

On behalf of all of us "crazies" who comment on the videos, may I just say ARGH! THEY'RE COMING IN THROUGH THE BACK DOOR!!! AAAARGH!!!! OH GOD!!!!! ARGH!!!!!

@GiveMeBourbon 6 ай бұрын

Black Sheep was a fantastically dreadful movie with Weresheep killing everyone.

@m.a.b.4104 6 ай бұрын

50:52 Black Sheep is a 2006 NZ horror comedy written and directed by Jonathan King. Ollie, I remember as well.

@alwhyte6533 6 ай бұрын

I'm so glad that the disposable vapes are being banned, purely for the fact that I won't have to breathe the stuff on buses.

@andrewmullen4003 6 ай бұрын

I used one of the crappy cig shaped with a light on the end, never used flavours, just nicotine. Gave up smoking in 2017, stopped vaping in 2020, it worked for me, you have to want to stop, not get nagged or harassed into it.

@stpirate89 6 ай бұрын

I gave up smoking in the same way. It doesn't take long at zero nicotine before you realise the vape tastes like shit. Good luck.

@AlexGnfnfj 6 ай бұрын

crazy fringe commenters represent

@andyn3532 6 ай бұрын

Don't vape kids just smoke and breathe in toxic car fumes it will all be fine as long as we have the malbro man and macho has guzzling cars

@alexlodda 6 ай бұрын

I got you on Black Sheep Oli. Classic nz gothic

@CaptainUrielVentris7 6 ай бұрын

The 'no buyers born after X date' is the cowards way to cut the harm of smoking. It gives the tobacco companies loads of time to pivot to vapes or whatever nicotine addiction delivery method comes next, and it avoids upsetting all the currently addicted. Its not wrong, but its fucking weak.

@MasterDeroy 6 ай бұрын

On average, for every negative comment, there would be 10 positive reactions from people who didn't comment. You just don't get to see that positivity.

@AndrewMcColl 6 ай бұрын

Black Sheep is a deeply weird, and very entertaining film - and had it special effects provided by Weta Workshop... after they won Oscars for LotR. M3gan was only partially shot here. They finished production back in the States. But both X and Pearl were filmed here, back-to-back. If you want some truly bizarre horror comedy, check the early work of Peter Jackson - Bad Taste, Brain Dead, and Meet the Feebles. It's best to go into each knowing as little as possible, so all I'll say is "Alien Invasion, Zombies, and The Muppets F**k Manhatten respectively."

@hyper_fn_al1459 6 ай бұрын

"make saying no look cool" 👌

@m.j.nicholls 6 ай бұрын

As a crazy person who leaves comments, I thoroughly enjoyed this p**cast with Olga.

@triggerking135 6 ай бұрын

Regarding the vape discussion... Why is no one talking about the alcohol flavours that are now available? And the glittery packaging? The drinks isle looks like a f'ing rainbow these days. What age group are they targeting?

@andyreynolds6194 6 ай бұрын

Ban flavours, just make them reusable and cheaper, scalable in price to the amount of nicotine in it, so that instead of spending 20 quid on a pack of 20 you can buy a vape for a tenner that lasts the same amount of time, or a fiver for a low nicotine alternative. If science could deliver a solution that also TASTED of something whilst critically not subjecting the rest of the place to smelling like a Pick ‘n’ Mix counter on a hot day, that too would be amazing.

@kr050 6 ай бұрын

Why is Olga Koch on?

@verraguid 6 ай бұрын

the sheer violence of my recoil in shock at the american guest broke my ribs

@flangeclamp4239 6 ай бұрын

Olga Koch is Russian.

@rob-c. 6 ай бұрын

Who?

@faves2064 6 ай бұрын

In 20 years we'll be digging up landfills for plastic, batteries and rare earth metals like lithium and cobalt.

@livescreaming 6 ай бұрын

Theyll ban vapes but they womt ban cigs properly despite the significantly higher impact on public health...

@andyreynolds6194 6 ай бұрын

Because the tax on the cigs PAYS for the public health of others.

@rafaeldegiacomoaraujo8778 6 ай бұрын

Vapping is disgusting...

@TheReasonableMan93 6 ай бұрын

I vape because he and his cronies have ruined almost every other part of my f*king life. I went to uni, got a first, and a reasonable paying job. Still cannot afford a place to call my own. Vaping is the last thing available to escape this Shakespearian tragedy. Probably wise to let me keep using it.

@stujujitwingfut5192 6 ай бұрын

Very good comment 👍

@user-bt6jn9tv8w 6 ай бұрын

Stop feeling sorry for yourself. You've been handed a great set of cards. You simply need patience waiting for the upswing. You definitely don't have the right to trash the environment using disposable vapes. Get a rechargeable one.

@stujujitwingfut5192 6 ай бұрын

@user-bt6jn9tv8w he does not like rechargeable ones

@TheReasonableMan93 6 ай бұрын

@@user-bt6jn9tv8wsorry to break it to you, but if your primary concern is the environment, banning disposable vapes would make a negligible (if even measurable) difference. The overconsumption of food and the resulting waste, is one of the major issues, environmentally speaking. Perhaps we ought to ban anyone above 30 BMI from buying more than they need? Easy fix, and can be legislated for overnight. After all, their "poor" life choices are impacting us all, right? I often find people whose only response is to ban anything they do not agree with, suddenly change their tune when the ban affects them. And if your solution is to simply ban your way to a better environment, best of luck to you. I think you'll find that politicians are a better target, rather than your fellow humans who simply enjoy the occasional smoke.

@TheReasonableMan93 6 ай бұрын

@@stujujitwingfut5192 thanks, mate. Sometimes it is difficult to put into words the contempt I have for this government. They have lied, cheated, and stolen from us for decades, and this is the result. As far as I'm concerned, they have broken the social contract. And the people must now hold every one of them accountable.

@domhuckle 6 ай бұрын

I comment, because otherwise you give the space up to the lunatics

@Relisysification 6 ай бұрын

The last time I commented on something I like, in earnest was... Oh

@rainyfeathers9148 6 ай бұрын

Willy Wonka:👀

@MagnusInsomnia 6 ай бұрын

'vapes can help people stop smoking' So do magic mushrooms and LSD........ (Legalise shrooms)

@diabl2master 6 ай бұрын

24:54 the guy's bitcoin hardrive would be worth 100s of millions, not 10s of thousands

@rewIndustry 6 ай бұрын

fringe here, why does the expression "bad boy" make me cringe so much? have suddenly lost all respect for oli.

@hephaestion12 6 ай бұрын

Here i am being a fucking weirdo adding comments to yt videos :)

@stephenwalker850 6 ай бұрын

Most cvnts in the comments are just like your guest and yous , they’re trying to be funny or wind yous up

@PhillipHilton 6 ай бұрын

"Alright, let's start with the basics. English is a non-inflected Indo-European language derived from dialects of...."

@LoneSheWolf09 6 ай бұрын

StephenWalker850 your comment makes no sense💁🏾‍♀️🙈. Only one who’s clearly wound up by this post is you💁🏾‍♀️😆. Go back to bed and wake up on the right side of it if I were you😆. Good 40 winks does wonders for your health☺️

@jamienash5263 6 ай бұрын

Ed, they were marketed towards children

@monomakes 6 ай бұрын

She mentions that it's only wierdos/ fringe groups that comment on videos, when the 'content' she is a guest on is actually on a platform (YT) that often requires comments to drive. What a div. I'm not sure which creators she has worked with, but people most certainly DO comment positively on videos, both subscribers and wastrels brought in by the algorithm. Perhaps she's referring to nonsense and insulting comments - which, of course, no-one needs. "Who does she think she is" to say otherwise?

@stephbutler8704 6 ай бұрын

I comment on posts and videos I like or am interested in. Am I weird? 🤔😉

@ILikedGooglePlus 6 ай бұрын

Yes. Everyone who comments on a youtube video is weird. Not me though. I'm the only normal one

@jpmusson 6 ай бұрын

Am I a crazy person because I comment on stuff??? God damnit

@BenParsons1 6 ай бұрын

I am the 1%

@jaycondron1063 6 ай бұрын

Always wanted to be fringe

@TimesFM4532 6 ай бұрын

Went full just say no

@PoetofHateSpeech 6 ай бұрын

Racist dogwhistle 😂😂😂😂😂 Sure

@andyn3532 6 ай бұрын

Ah it's all let's use more petrol keep flogging nice lovely tobacco everything else is bad moment with an added we are dinosaurs and don't understand this new thing blegh

@proton600 6 ай бұрын

Stop that cringe intro

@markysgeeklab8783 6 ай бұрын

Was Ed raised in the same scotland as me? People were drinking and smoking in primary 7 and there were primary age kids dieing in glasgow from drug overdoses. By S1 there were people overdosing and getting ambulanced away at lunchtime (ok that only happened once at my school).

@andrewmcewan8081 6 ай бұрын

thought i was the only one who noticed that .i wasn't in glasgow and started smoking at 10 , and a lot of the rest before 4th year