the reason I like this is because it gives me a glimpse into my son's life. He passed away in January 2018 and I never really got to know what he did (exactly) or how he used the tools that I'm looking at - or what they were used for

Thanks so much for this very thoroughly explained video. Students in A&P schools seem to have a lot of tech info thrown at them in class and then off to shop-sink or swim. Before you know it, the current training phase is over and onto something entirely different, whether you've absorbed it or not. Your presentation was orderly,calm, very professional, and easy to understand.

I’m restoring an old WW2 US airforce footlocker left here in Australia after WW2. This helped me a lot to restore the trunk as it uses old solid rivets

Thank you for this video. I’m taking my O&P,s next month !

Riveting, couldn't take my eyes off it.

Excellent video, thank you very much for posting it here on YT!

I worked as a trailer mechanic when I was younger. Back then we used aluminum drive rivets for everything. All of the aluminum side panels, roofing, and frame rails were held together with them. The reason they use them is the speed of assembly and the strength of the rivets. These rivets have more pulling and holding strength than a nut and bolt. But, we were manually driving rivets about 30 times per minute. Pop rivets aren't even that fast. The only thing that sucks is being the bucker on the inside of the trailer. The noise of using a Chicago Pneumatic 717 air hammer was enough to rattle your teeth.

Thanks, Roy - glad you liked it. (from Vancouver, Canada)

very informative! Thank you for this great video, it really cleared up the process for me.

Thanks for your comments, Enwwn - you're quite right about the work hardening aspect, as well as the head & tail gaps. The reason that students are taught this method is to have them learn to drive rivets in a short time period - the "M" students only have a total of 12 days to learn many skills in the sheet metal trade, and management wanted them to gain confidence quickly. It's just a first step in a longer process.

Nice work! Clean and concise

Still helping folks today. Thanks!

First rate video instruction! Thanks for posting!! Roy Lewis Atlanta, Georgia USA

Wild to see the Lockheed process from the 1940’s is still the standard for rivets installation

I hope that you consider making more videos with layout, rivet pitch, and spacing. This would've been great for preparing for testing with a DME years ago. But again, great video!!!!!!

Thank you. Excellent instructional aid.

Great video. Thank you for posting this sir

....thank YOU soooo much !!! for all this interessting informations !!! BIG COMPLIMENT !!! kinde regards from Switzerland !!!

thank you sir for this amazing video

PRC is what we normally used on helicopters. Usually a B-2 product, which allowed two hours working time. Brands like FlameMaster were common, but I can't remember the exact part number. PR 890 was another product.

Very usefull ! Thanks for posting these !

Excellent, well done, thank you!

great video I was wondering if you have or can pit a video to make the rivet gauge

Riveting is one of those jobs you need to have a feel for. This is gained by repetition. Good dia holes are essential. Selecting the right rivet gun is also essential these are given in X sizes a 3 x being the most common. Ensure you are at 90% to the job . This can be achieved by placing block and gun on the job at arms length and looking at the block and gun hold your position and move in for more control. You can also use the flat surface of the block if you have a equal space around your block your square. Setting up the trigger on the gun is important this can be done on a test piece. I like to us tungsten blocks. Blocks should be rested on the rivet tail with light pressure this will ensure you set the rivet with the first few strikes as you carry on forming the tail increase the pressure on the block. What your looking for is not the gun that bounces but the block as the gun transfer is energy through the rivet into the block. If your in difficult areas or just starting out just learn how to set the rivet this a few hits step back look at the rivet then finish off . I like to use a plastic bag on my universal heads as it protects them and gives a nice production finish. Finally if your wet assembly make sure you keep block and snaps clean as you can put rivets into sheer if you don’t.

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excellent video

Bucking bars (also called "Dolly's") are merely the block of steel against which the rivet is set, or bucked. The steel should be a high quality alloy, case hardened, with at least one smooth surface. The bucking bars can be home made, or purchased from a aviation tool supplier such as USATCO. Bucking bars can be any shape or size, and sometimes use alternate materials for heavier weight.

Ooooo, Paul Dye is facing a bit of competition. 😂 Nice job y'all!

Thank you for posting this video. I have searched for the spec that controls the installation of rivets and can not find it. I know that these rivets have been install pretty much the same for the past 70 years but I would think some kind of document has to exist.

Thanks for sharing. Liked it.

thanks very much for the information. I´m a plane builder, and this information is very usefull!!

very good and helpful video thanks !!

The rivet gauges seen around 1 minute 30 seconds into the clip are a home-made tool, but I imagine there are commercial versions available from USATCO.com or Brown's aircraft tools.

Great video! Thanks.

Great informative video ,

5/32 rivet hole is a #21 drill bit.i was a sheetmetal man in the air force back in the eighties.long time ago now.

we have team work for riveting (normally 2 people). They work together by sound signals. for example when ready to do riveting, you will hear 1 click (bucking bar applied to the rivet)...

Thank you!

Excellent!

Thanks for video man

Thanx! Very nice!

I noticed in a part that I am examining some red rivets on the wing, what are those? where can I get more information on that?

I’m an apprentice with zero experience in airframe or power plant. It’s all being thrown at me at once. Your video is a major help.

thank you!

Sir thanks for informative video

Where would one get that nice brass PSI regulator on your air hammer inlet? That looks like a great accessory.

what is the failure rate of installation? e.g. for flush and universal rivets, including smiley damage from the universal rivets?

im soory for asking many ? is this PRC seal is the same as expoci here in my country they may have it but under diferent name

There are rivet guns and air hammers. air Hammers don't work too well (little control). Ones that are most common is a 3x or 4x guns.

Too bad I can only give thumbs up only once. This video is excellent.

Please do an episode on removing, sizing, replacing, and sourcing aircraft blind rivets. My entire plane is done in blind rivets and they are all rusty and need to be replaced... but there are no videos out there about selecting aircraft blind rivets. Do I use Avex? Cherry? How do they look different from hardware store pop rivets? How do I measure their dimensions with a caliper when they have rusted up and expanded?

is there any videos of how to aply PRC in seams

thanks.,I wondered about how this was done but was worried about seeming illiterate to ask anyone.

sir i hope you again put a informative structure repair videos

Where can I get air rivet hammer, bucking bar.. ? Ty

What do you call those little pin clamps they are using to hold two pieces together?

Can you upload some more videos for students to prepare oral and practical test?

Where can i get some of those go/no go gauges?

Set up a c-squeeze. Eliminates a lot of mistakes from overshooting/ undershooting a rivet. Ergonomically better also

No, silicone is capable of corroding aluminum. PRC is a man-made rubber product, used for sealing surfaces against moistures, oils, greases, vapour, gasses, etc. PRC has been in the aircraft industry for decades. PRC is a 2-part polysulfide, which requires you to mix both parts before using.

I saw a bike frame that had many rivets for decoration and those were not pop rivets but they were this type that requiers a bucket bar to be used - and here comes my question. Is there a way riveting to be done without a bucket bar since there is no way of puttin any inside the tube of the bike frame. The rivets were the ones with "half spere head" don't know the exact name and still can't find out how did they do it. Riveting was done after the whole frame was completed because I saw photos while drilling the holes but no info on how it riveting was done.

what is the best gun out there to use for a couple simple aluminum boat projects using 3/16 and 1/4 inch brazier head rivets?

i dont get how you can use a bucker bar if you are working with a larger pices of sheet metal such as a kit plane

We build cargo trucks using the same methods as aircrafts and I can tell you that if it took us that long to shoot a rivet, we'd never have a job. We shoot thousands and thousands a day on a solo job, let alone with 2 people.

soo is this PRC some tipe of silicone

Thank,is very detail

I still don't understand what the gun is doing and how rivets don't fall out if only one side is larger than the hole.

Couldn’t get hold of a bucking bar so I used a lump of bucking rail instead

I'd like so much very good Video. Pau

I want a PDF of tools for installing aircraft parts

and also in closed spaces also in a kit plane

İs there any one can explain me what is the bucking bar and how to use ?

hi what can i use to seal

Is it possible to know what drill gun brand he's using?

Why not use the top of the metal vise, instead of the bucking bar? is it for the smoothness of the buckingbar?

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Your video assumes we all know what tools are required . Other than an Air hammer and bucking bar what tip are you supposed to use on the air hammer?

Hi, what is the head diameter of the rivet used on a Boeing 777, on the nose and cockpit frame ? Thanks.

How do you put something on the inside if you cant get to it? Like if you are outside and you need to put that steel chunk on the inside?

Is there a different in Rivets use in business-jet and small piston power aircraft?

Is a bucker bar what we call in the UK a "reaction" bar?

I am working on a hobby project with military spec aluminum rivets, 1/8" diameter with 100 degree flush mount. I am running into an issue, I have a mushroom head and a 2 lb bucking bar held in hand not a vise, but I cannot set the rivet. It will not compress the rivet. Do I not have enough air power? Or is the zip gun not powerful enough for heat treated aluminum rivets? I am using my grandpa's old Chicago Pneumatics zip gun: CP711. Looking to fasten two 1/8" aluminum plates together. Any help is appreciated. Thanks.

i did this for 2 years at hayes aircraft in birmingham.that's all we did pretty much until they laid us off 6 times in 2 years.but to learn real sheetmetal work you need to do shop work too.Which i did prior in the air force.but there's people who have done nothing but shoot rivets for 30 years and that's all they know.if you was to tell them to make a box in a shop they would be lost.

I see at one point you mention that the rivet diameter should typically be three time the material thickness. Your illustration should reflect this, at least momentarily when you say as much.

Can someone pls tell me if this apply to solid steel rivet installation? Dia of rivet is around 0.250". Instruction is to use cold head upset. Was told I need a very high tonnage hydraulic press to do the job.

VERY VERY PRO

With the bucking bar held in the vice you fail at riveting. This process left a gap between the two pieces of metal being riveted. It was quite obvious in the video. Use Clecos on each side of the rivet being shot to hold the metal sheets together. Riveting is a skill you learn over time by doing it over and over.

i have personally installed hundreds of thousands of these rivets

2117 rivets. Do they need heating before driving?

Good afternoon Riveteer, The fella giving this presentation, Is there a contact to speak to him? Even their Web Site has no contact info. please let me know if there's some form of contact besides on here.... thank you

MIDDLE FINGER ON THE TRIGGER WHEN YOU RIVET

I'd love to know what we're looking at at 0:20 and again at 5:57. There's more rivet than airplane.

Just set the skin up on a drivematic. Quicker yet.

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why are my aircraft rivets rusting?

i have never bucked a rivet with the bucking bar in the vice lol, you will never buck a rivet like this unless you are practicing on a small scale. 80% of the time you will need 2 people to install rivets on an aircraft

Rivet kits

Good video; however, I would rather that you didn't show a riveting procedure with the bucking bar secured in a vice. Best practice is as you illustrate later in the video with the materials secured in the vice and rivet gun set force transmitted through the rivet shank with the bucking bar rebounding to swell and upset the shank. This method properly work hardens the entire rivet to produce appropriate driven shear strength and produces fewer gaps beneath the rivet manufactured head.

No 30 drill you mean :-)

3 times the diameter of the thickest sheet being fastened. Your graphic shows much less than that. Not even 2x the diameter of the thickest sheet.