RM Italy KL-503 1 Driving 8 Mosfet Amp Repair

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8 жыл бұрын

Here you go bud just be careful not to overdrive this bad boy again and I hate to say it but it's pretty much only good for about two to 300 watts but it is AB biased and will make a good Linear Amp to use on SSB or AM.

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@flash001USA
@flash001USA 5 жыл бұрын
Hi I'm just curious with what you replaced the transistor with the yellow dot with?
@225rc
@225rc 8 жыл бұрын
great explanation
@robertmeyer4744
@robertmeyer4744 6 жыл бұрын
Have not worked on this model but all like it are low drive fet amps.You can add some input padding to the driver stage. you need to keep 50 ohm Z watch input VSWR. I got the KL203P on my 2950. I padded the input . works great. use to drive 4 572B tubes.
@Hammerjockeyrepair
@Hammerjockeyrepair 5 жыл бұрын
best thing to do is remove the driver mosfet!
@125southernnh2
@125southernnh2 5 жыл бұрын
I drive mine with about 2 to 3 watts. Gets hot pretty quick so I'm grabbing a muffin fan from work to stick on top.
@ericzerkle5214
@ericzerkle5214 6 жыл бұрын
Here kitty kitty kitty!
@ChristiannTyler
@ChristiannTyler Ай бұрын
I have 2 of these I never use the 503HD it’s such an interesting design I might be willing to risk it for science lol
@1883GotDown
@1883GotDown Ай бұрын
Lol do it man do it
@ColinBoath
@ColinBoath 9 ай бұрын
What are your readings on the mosfets? And did you measure them in circuit or take them off to test. I changed the 1n4007 diode, but still the same
@1883GotDown
@1883GotDown 9 ай бұрын
It is easier to read them out of circuit or unless your able to bend the legs up with out the potential possibility of damaging them. I use my atlas now to test F E T s but back then I used my analog meter im sure... this is an old video
@1883GotDown
@1883GotDown 9 ай бұрын
You say still the same but I don't know what you mean?
@ColinBoath
@ColinBoath 9 ай бұрын
@@1883GotDown Slight update!! I removed all the MOSFETs. Tested ok.. or at least they all test the same with my meter, and all are read by my transistor tester Did note a poor solder joint on one of them. The original problem is terrible SSB audio output using this amp. FM is acceptable.. just. But SSB sounds almost like it's off frequency or losing something in quality. I've seen people bypass the driver, but unclear what any consequences of this are.
@vsmichael1
@vsmichael1 5 ай бұрын
Remove or bypass the driver & the sounding shitty on ssb will go away. I removed mine & I took out the -7db attenuator & used a 1000 pf mica cap & it does more than before. Being I removed a 60 watt driver transistor it’s ok to use a 30 watt pep radio. I use 40 pep out of my icom on SSB it puts out 325 watts. On 10 meter 28.400 it does $350. Keeper I’m not one to say anything against anyone but please get you some finger nail clippers they are nauseous looking,lol.
@1883GotDown
@1883GotDown 5 ай бұрын
Good move....that is a great movie actually. Thanks for the comment.
@flash001USA
@flash001USA 5 жыл бұрын
Update: I contacted RM Italy and they actually replied back. They told me that the transistor with the yellow dot was a custom part (not because if that was the case they would have their own custom part number on them) My question is what did you sub out for the yellow dot driver?
@1883GotDown
@1883GotDown 4 жыл бұрын
IRF520 I worked perfect. Just buy a high quality one not a cheaper b
@flash001USA
@flash001USA 4 жыл бұрын
@@1883GotDown Thanks for replying back. I did order a handful of the driver MOSFET's from them because they had an outlet here in the US and they only charged $5 for the transistors. If memory plays correctly I may have tried an IRF540 as the driver which did NOT work. I read somewhere that the IRF540's would work fine for the driver but they were wrong. However they do work fine for the outputs. I only had a bad driver on my amp and the other MOSFETS were absolutely fine and after doing the repair the amp put out exactly what it did the day that I purchased it. I'm using this on my base station and it gives me plenty of power just to cut through noise with. I did a couple of mods to the amp the day that I got it setting it up so that it would key with the radio circuitry instead of the RF so that I didn't have any dropped syllables or words on SSB. What I realized was this amp would have a tendency to go into self oscillation if it was keyed up without a carrier present so I added some extra filtering around the input stage that took care of the problem all together. I've had a lot of use out of this amp with no problems whatsoever. The only reason it failed was because I accidentally overdrove the input testing out a newer high power radio forgetting to cut the power back... My mistake. I only push this amp with about 1.5 Watts and the audio quality is top-shelf crystal clear outputting a very clean 100 watts with good forward modulaton. Before I forget, thanks for replying back about using a 520 as the driver.
@1883GotDown
@1883GotDown 4 жыл бұрын
@@flash001USA roger roget...good deal buddy. I still have one here for repair and I think this time imma add a 3db or 6db attenuator so it can be ran with a regular single final radio. I'll do some math and figure it out. I have a 4x16x64 to build with IRF520s lol that is going to be nutts man. If I have any issues with it imma just back out cause that is a crazy idea. I have a 4x16 ERF7530 Amp right here on the bench right now. Good luck buddy sorry it took me so long to reply.
@robertdixon6536
@robertdixon6536 5 жыл бұрын
Manual does not say PEP. Only on output do they mention 300w pep to make it sound impressive. Power Input is RMS deadkey values. It is a 200 W amplifier . It is a RMS beast not peak. I will take RMS any day. Run cool at 2W yield about 110W dead key.
@djjoep100
@djjoep100 4 жыл бұрын
Just bought one the KL 503 the newer version owner's manual says April 2019 the owners book says it will do 300 watt Max RF power to run amplifier input 1 to 6 Watts Max almost my question to you is am I better off with a Texas Star amplifier? RM Italy amplifier is black face plate with the blue buttons the one I have is the new version
@1883GotDown
@1883GotDown 4 жыл бұрын
Ooooh yeh you really are better off with a Texas Star. These amps are designed for very low input. It is easy to fry the driver. Dont get me wrong they do have there place. I personally like a Texas Star better especially the older version.
@zigzag3853
@zigzag3853 4 жыл бұрын
How do you check the bias (and what do you look for) after you change out the pre-driver?
@karsonjoshua828
@karsonjoshua828 3 жыл бұрын
a trick : watch movies at Flixzone. Me and my gf have been using it for watching lots of of movies these days.
@daviswilson5637
@daviswilson5637 3 жыл бұрын
@Karson Joshua yup, I've been watching on flixzone} for since december myself :D
@haroldasher6494
@haroldasher6494 3 жыл бұрын
@Karson Joshua yup, have been watching on Flixzone} for months myself :)
@jameswaddell3319
@jameswaddell3319 2 жыл бұрын
What are the MOSFETS that was put in the 503 amplifier
@1883GotDown
@1883GotDown Жыл бұрын
I put a 520 in it
@piedpiperofarizona5224
@piedpiperofarizona5224 7 жыл бұрын
Good review and everything. Maybe should also talk about the switches in the front. Many people don't know what the Pre switch is used for and how it should be used. I think most know what SSB and AM are used for. (Single Side Band and AM is for CB) If you don't know what the ON/Off is used for, maybe you should not own any electrical device. ;) I own one of these and it is a nice amp. I can really get out with very little input wattage. I use less than 5 watts. I rate it 4 out of 5 stars compared to the very best amps in the world.
@dnssigns
@dnssigns 3 жыл бұрын
Doing a straight 8 mod is an easy mod and makes this a very nice amp. The reason for the 1 driving 8 is for CB radios. While it's illegal plenty of people do it. However SSB sounds like crap with the 1 driving 8. As a straight 8 SSB is very clean. The straight 8 needs more power than a legal CB will put out. I am putting 20 into it and getting a solid 225 out. Much less chance of burning up any parts as a straight 8. Great photo with instructions on page 3 of this thread. www.worldwidedx.com/threads/rm-italy-kl-503-watts-vs-amps.171280/page-6
@butterbean4195
@butterbean4195 8 жыл бұрын
ive had many of these rm amps great amps but will NOT take being over driven or high volts. 73s butter bean NE GA channel 14
@1883GotDown
@1883GotDown 8 жыл бұрын
roger roger brother good to know I have some locals watching the channel I've heard you out there on the band always sounding good.
@Mr_Meowingtons
@Mr_Meowingtons 4 жыл бұрын
I disable the Driver in 6 of the KL-503 it and drive the 8 strate it is easy to do.. And you can run the radio at full power . it is easy and i have it documented there IRF520 the thing only needs 4w in after the mod you can drive 25w pep
@swingdaddy2126
@swingdaddy2126 3 жыл бұрын
Please share with me how this is done???
@andreasviehmann5805
@andreasviehmann5805 9 ай бұрын
i am also interessted ho it works with the mod without the Driver, i have also the same Problem in SSB , The RM3 = IRLZ14 but RM4 the Driver ???
@TheLonesometoad
@TheLonesometoad 7 жыл бұрын
Is there another, more powerful mosfet that can be put into these?
@vsmichael1
@vsmichael1 5 ай бұрын
Why the amp isn’t set up for bigger mosfets.
@ColinBoath
@ColinBoath 10 ай бұрын
How common is the in4007 diode to go.. My amp died, and it appears ok other than this
@1883GotDown
@1883GotDown 10 ай бұрын
Not common but..where is that diode? Relay or hotbus?
@ColinBoath
@ColinBoath 10 ай бұрын
@@1883GotDown Sits right next to the relay Reads 220 in both directions
@mikedaniels1626
@mikedaniels1626 6 жыл бұрын
Curious you said you didn’t want to make his 503 a guinea pig, a lot of people have these amps they are coming out with a new 503hd, they say you can drive it pretty hard, have you done anything more with these amps on what you said you think you may be able to do as far as bypass, if you need mine as a ginea pig I’m more than willing to do so , just say the word I’ll send it right over!!!! Let me know ( I know this post is very late from the date of this video
@1883GotDown
@1883GotDown 6 жыл бұрын
Mike Daniels well actually I have a guys amplifier hearing now which is actually the same fella in this video but a different amplifier and that's what he wants me to do is to modify it to be just a high drive amplifier so that will be a guinea pig LOL
@PRWellenfilet
@PRWellenfilet 8 жыл бұрын
Power Level 3 = Best Input SWR The eight "RM3" are not IRF520. I know for sure beause i figuerd out what kind of FET is behind. The Driver, RM calls it "RM4" (yellow dot), seems to be another typ of FET, Im now on the way to find out which kind of... Voltage up to 15V will work fine for KL-203 and KL503. 15V will acquire some astonishing extra Watts as well. To make a high drive out of the 503 just PM me on YT or CBRT.
@PRWellenfilet
@PRWellenfilet 8 жыл бұрын
+Michael Podgorski You may send me a PN if you need some... I've spend several € for equipment and parts. Now I'm collecting defective KL-xx3 from ebay and repair them. In the moment I have my money back i'll spread the word.
@1883GotDown
@1883GotDown 8 жыл бұрын
I was very tempted to talk the fellow into allowing me to bypass the driver. I am glad that the 520 worked though lol. I am curious what type of FETS they are so I will shoot you a message sometime to see. Thanks a bunch for dropping by the videos. 73s
@mikedaniels1626
@mikedaniels1626 6 жыл бұрын
1883GotDown I will send you mine for a Guniea pig , I’m pretty happy with this amp haves no issues, 325w on setting six but I keep it on setting 5, any updates on this amp ?
@mikedaniels1626
@mikedaniels1626 6 жыл бұрын
13PR87 Wellenfilet how do I on you would like to know what your talking about
@mikedaniels1626
@mikedaniels1626 6 жыл бұрын
13PR87 Wellenfilet can you let me know , also a 503 high drive just came into the United States looks exactly the same as the original 503
@courtneylawson4988
@courtneylawson4988 Жыл бұрын
How to remove the dc connector from kl503hd?
@1883GotDown
@1883GotDown 11 ай бұрын
Good ? This vid is a bit old so I can't remember at the top of my head maybe someone can help this fellow?
@fbaeet
@fbaeet 3 жыл бұрын
I saw a cat. I clicked.
@gamingwithraptorthe1191
@gamingwithraptorthe1191 8 жыл бұрын
I run my 203p with 1WATT input, I get a 40WATT dead key with a 175-190 modulation swing and it run cool to the touch
@JoseRivera-lk4cz
@JoseRivera-lk4cz 8 жыл бұрын
+John/Meghan Evans i have a kl 200p 10 watt input i get 100w and 200w on ssb... am using 10g wire....
@1883GotDown
@1883GotDown 8 жыл бұрын
+Jose Rivera does yours run hot with the 10w?
@JoseRivera-lk4cz
@JoseRivera-lk4cz 8 жыл бұрын
Sorry I got a 501 rm no problem
@dylanricherson8018
@dylanricherson8018 6 жыл бұрын
about what would you run ur radio at on this amp?
@mikedaniels1626
@mikedaniels1626 6 жыл бұрын
dylan richeron I run mine @ 2 watts high setting I get around 325watts
@eknaap8800
@eknaap8800 4 жыл бұрын
Ur is an old city in ancient Mesopotamia...
@EdzashedFudwinkle
@EdzashedFudwinkle 3 жыл бұрын
You can bridge the 3 fuses, or swap the 3 for 1 30amp fuse, create a bridge across the bottle neck, and your 300 will be 420w and 480w(pep) Video on KZfaq about it. Looking for a Rm Kl 503 HD myself, its about the only 1 that my 50amp psu will handle lol
@EdzashedFudwinkle
@EdzashedFudwinkle 2 жыл бұрын
@cat radio videogates I bought the 503v, blew the mosfets within 2wks month, I use FM in the UK 🇬🇧, so it needs fixing, I have a Zetagi B300p & kl203 also, not spoilt for choice. 6900n is noq old (6mth's) so might upgrade to a multiband around Christmas time, we'll see. 73's 26-CT-4078 Mcr, England 🇬🇧
@EdzashedFudwinkle
@EdzashedFudwinkle 2 жыл бұрын
@cat radio videogates I have a 30a psu & a 50a (40 continuous), but have looked at the 50&60a psu's, they're around £130 new, so not much, not an essential atm 👍
@EdzashedFudwinkle
@EdzashedFudwinkle 2 жыл бұрын
@cat radio videogates I like the Texas Stars, I thought they was for the US Market, Rm's & Zetagi's are the 2 main European ones I know of. The 203 with 7/8w in does 75w, thats plenty for Europe, maybe I'll add more in the coming months, I have 80ft tree's some 50ft from my shack/room, I plan to use these to my advantage, height + longline + multiband DX/Tx
@Gw0wvl
@Gw0wvl 6 жыл бұрын
If your not sure what devices are used in this amplifier , Then how did you know what devices to use to replace the blown devices ? .... Seems a bit of dodgy guess work .
@1883GotDown
@1883GotDown 6 жыл бұрын
MrMadjones because the driver transistor is separate from the finals I could tell by the circuit layout that an irf520 would work just fine now if one of the final devices had blown then I would not have been able to do that that would be very dodgy replacing & Final where there's 7 other devices and you do not know what devices they are you understand what I'm saying all I had to do was replace the driver device and an irf520 matched up perfectly there's always more than one device that can work in a circuit or at least were close enough to be used hope that helps you understand a little better I don't never play hit and miss with people's amplifiers that's a big No-No
@eknaap8800
@eknaap8800 4 жыл бұрын
@@1883GotDown Never heard of capitals and proper punctuation, have you? You write like a pastor delivers his preach...
@1883GotDown
@1883GotDown 4 жыл бұрын
@@eknaap8800 yep, this social media...a lot of times I'm typing while on road. Thanks for your kind words
@eknaap8800
@eknaap8800 4 жыл бұрын
@@1883GotDown : It is really horrible to read...
@1883GotDown
@1883GotDown 4 жыл бұрын
@@eknaap8800 srry about that. My fat fingers on these phone doesnt make it easy lol...keep a look out will be releasing slot or new videos very soon
@KG5CUO
@KG5CUO 7 жыл бұрын
LOL
@ericzerkle5214
@ericzerkle5214 5 жыл бұрын
Junk. These are a joke.
@1883GotDown
@1883GotDown 5 жыл бұрын
Lol
@courtneylawson4988
@courtneylawson4988 Жыл бұрын
Hi gatekeeper, what’s your contact
@1883GotDown
@1883GotDown Жыл бұрын
I'm not taking in work atm but I will be soon.
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